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6:34 PM
for the record, my daughter is still not a fan of rapid covid tests.
it's nice of the neighbors not to call the authorities. i'm sure they can hear her screaming
 
6:50 PM
@Koro That proof is not so unnatural when you see that all the terms are no greater than $\frac1{3n+1}$ and there are $2n+1$ of them. Since $\frac{2n+1}{3n+1}\gt\frac23$, a bit of tweaking is needed; that is, taking $2n$ terms no greater than $\frac1{3n+2}$ (this is less than $2/3$) and the one term that is $\frac1{3n+1}$.
 
Does anyone know the pontryagin dual of $\Bbb{T}^n$, the $n$-torus, when it is endowed with the discrete topology?
 
@leslietownes who knows what is going on in their basement...
it may not be in their best interests to involve the authorities
 
that's a good point, actually. it's almost suspicious.
we do have a neighbor who houses "illegal" immigrants for periods of time on the order of weeks to months until they can find other housing. she told me with a straight face and all seriousness that god commanded her to do it. i'm not arguing with god, i have enough problems.
there's another guy across the street who washes his car every day. that seems very suspicious to me. like, what evidence is in there that he needs to flush away, and how is he so active that he needs it every day.
 
huh, washing your car every day does sound pretty suspicious
 
it's got to be expensive, too. water is not cheap these days
 
6:56 PM
how many people do you hit each day with that car?
 
the time expenditure is what i'd be worrying about
 
he's retired, so his time is free, but.... it's weird. i should probably report him.
 
hahahahah
"yes, officer, he spends too much time washing his car"
 
i'm pretty sure if you went in there with that CSI spray the whole thing would light up like it's christmas.
 
6:59 PM
queen were great.
 
@leslie I'm here to protest officially today's Wordle ...
Is munchkin still yelling?
 
@Koro However I was able to show that the sequence is decreasing by showing that $$\sum_{k=1}^{2n+1}\frac1{3n+k}-\sum_{k=1}^{2n-1}\frac1{3n-3+k}\le-\frac2{15}\frac{n-1}{\left(n-\frac13\right)\left(n-\frac35\right)\left(n+\frac15\right)}$$
 
ted: probably? she's yelling at day care, if she is yelling. i dunno.
i got wordle in 4 today, slightly under my average so no complaints.
 
I barely got it on the last try. Only my 10th time out of 160 going 6.
With the multiplicity involved, it was not going to be an early guess.
 
i have 13 sixes of 173 played.
 
7:04 PM
@robjohn Yuck.
 
@TedShifrin yeah, it's not easy to show it is decreasing.
 
Is this an interesting question?
A lot of questions like this make me shrug and say, "so what?"
 
not necessarily, but it was the initial way I had suggested, so I thought I'd see it through.
 
Well, I meant Koro's original question.
 
it turns out that the original question has a much easier answer
 
7:07 PM
koro pulls his questions from the deepest pits of hell.
 
I will say that I used an interesting collection of convexity results to simplify showing the decrease
 
@leslietownes It would seem so. Makes you more inclined to like my geometry, doesn't it?
 
if nobody is looking, the answer is yes
 
no comment
 
i'm the guy who broke into leslie's house, by the way. not leslie.
 
7:13 PM
Yes, of course.
 
i'm helping myself to the piles of valuables that this guy has in his house, presumably as a result of his introduction of lesliecoin to the monetary ecosystem.
 
@leslietownes the expensive black car is in the underground garage, accessed by tilting the head of the bust of Beethoven and pressing the button.
 
i used to work with a guy who actually had a setup like this, i wish i were kidding. he was obsessed with james bond, and had this thing in his house where if you tilted a globe a certain way it opened up a thing in a bookcase down to his garage.
you could also access the garage from the house via non-secret means, so i'm not sure what the purpose was, exactly.
 
Did he have a seven-car garage with two-car elevator?
 
it was a four car garage.
for a while he was dating someone who won a season of some central european version of american idol. she was a hoot.
 
7:19 PM
So she contributed three cars?
 
i'm not sure what she contributed, but i can guess.
 
no headlight shortage in the garage?
 
he lived next to a major league baseball player. i learned this after i said "hey do you mind if i park here even though it's slightly into your driveway?" and the guy said "no" and then our host began laughing.
apparently he's "TV famous" well i don't watch TV so checkmate.
 
@leslietownes the guy across the street from me is a contractor and he did some very expensive remodeling of a huge house in a very expensive development for a major league baseball player, mainly at the bequest of his wife. Right after the job was finished, they broke up.
 
@robjohn hahahahahahhah
 
7:24 PM
i love that.
 
Must have been a horrible remodeling.
 
It was a shame. I liked the way the house was originally. There was a tower with a circular library at the top and lots of nice old English construction inside and out. They tore out the library, and removed most of the interior for more open space.
@TedShifrin The job was great, aside from the fact that I hated what they did.
 
Oh, you saw it?
 
My taste in decor is not what is in vogue these days, I guess.
@TedShifrin yeah, I saw lots of pictures before and during.
 
Everyone wants completely open concept. I know this from watching HGTV.
 
7:29 PM
our house is very open. too open.
if we want to isolate the cat, we have to put her in 'kitty jail' which is a downstairs bathroom. it's our only choke point.
 
The Gato Gulag?
to mix metaphors with a stick
 
She probably wants her own archipelago.
 
7:48 PM
my office does not have a door, so my daughter can just run in here whenever she wants
 
Your office is in a loft space?
 
sorta.
there's a wide doorway. it looks like it used to have some kind of sliding contraption to set it off from everything else. but it looks out over the first floor, which is loft-like.
 
8:45 PM
@MathematicalEmergency hi
how's the twin primes?
or should I say how are the primes
 
9:06 PM
F the twin primes
lol
I mean I got an F
You can count dem buggers with a formula, but who's to say the formula doesn't vanish, lol, it's a trap. I've been entrapped by a static struture, the most basic, the initial object of $\textbf{Ring}$.
@geocalc33
 
maybe just build a structure that encodes not just primes as a representation, but any type of spectral distribution, where the primes are just one instance. I suggest looking into random matrix theory and the theory of zeta functions. But maybe even that won't suffice. You may need to unify those two theories into an even more fundamental mathematical structure that represents itself in different settings as either a zeta function or a random matrix
 
I have coding work starting tomorrow, but it's not permanent
Still working constr.
 
nice
 
I think we should program a computer to find a proof
lol
Lean4, Coq, Isabelle were designed to be proof assistants, not proof searchers
Though they can do some of it
So writing a search engine that searches abstract proposition spaces, is an active research area under many guises: ATD, ATP, SMT
@geocalc33 do know what a ring is?
 
what's abstract proposition space
 
9:12 PM
That's about what I was going to just teach you :)
 
so you propose a space and then see if the Coq can do the work?
 
The logic of XOR is $A\oplus B = A\wedge \neg B \vee B \wedge \neg A$.
 
hmm
 
Where $\wedge$ has higher precedence than $\vee$
 
I've vaguely heard of logic gates like XOR
 
9:13 PM
Anyway, if a proposition in classical logic is always evaluated at either $1, 0$ or undecidable
Then you can model all of math as activities in the "ring of propositions" where a proposition is something like $x \in \Bbb{Z}$
 
so do proof searches exist already in some form?
 
But can get infinitely more complicated
The addition in the ring is $\oplus$
The multiplication is $\wedge$
and distributes over xor
as in a boolean ring
SO, I made a post just now
about that see my profile
Why doesn't this ever come up etc. It's like purposely hidden knowledge
The point being, why don't we work with proofs like we do expressions in a ring
And all the things you can do with ideals, etc.
Then variable substitution is what? A ring endomorphism
$a \implies b \equiv a(1 + b) = 0$ in this ring
Where we say that $P = 0$ whenever we know or have assumed that $P$ is a false proposition
And $P = 1$ if true
So we got rid of logical union, but you can reconstructe it with $+ = \oplus =$ xor: $a \vee b = a + b - ab$.
$a b = a \wedge b$ by definition
Who uses union anyway!
Lol
Okay, we use it a lot. Anyway, when we speak of multiple things in a theorem, the logic is usually and between the things
Let $a \in B$, (AND) let $b \in A$.
So it's natural that juxtaposition of letters (prop variables) be logical and
@geocalc33 see above notes when you're back. Let me know if you want to code on it with me. I think we should use either C++/D or rust. Yes, there are some interesting things. I'm currently liking the way Metamath works, not their old-style HTML UI, but its verification code is rather simple. < 1000 lines in Python 3.
The verification code is called a verifier, and all it does is run through a file of proofs, import missing proofs, and check each one against the axioms.
Supposedly the only thing a human needs to know about when reading metamath is "variable subst", but I don't believe that
What's impressive about metamath is that it's able to verify 28,000 proofs in < 1 second, at least this rust code on github is capable
Proof search is not verification though. It's a whole other arena of algorithm
It's what factorization is to checking factorization of an integer. Checking $XY = N$ is easy once you know $XY$, but computing $X,Y$ is believed to generally be exponentially difficult in the # digits of $N$
So, two hopelessly diffferent yet mathematically related algorithms
 
 
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11:40 PM
If $G$ is an abelian group, what is $Hom(Hom(G,G),G)$ isomorphic to?
 
i'll start. itself!
 
Hmm...nothing nice then? I thought there was some cancellation going on or something like that.
What about $Hom(S^1,S^1)$ or its dual, where $S^1$ is the circle group? Do they admit a nice description?
 
I’ll volunteer $G$ when $G$ is cyclic.
 
Ah, yeah that sounds familiar.
 
there might be some kind of stabilization that occurs, i just don't know what it would be. i was being facetious and unhelpful.
when G is the circle i think you get the circle back. this is pontryagin duality.
which would more generally supply the answer for Hom(Hom(G,T),T), T the circle group and G LCA.
 
11:59 PM
Yes, this is basically what I am looking at (actually, Bohr compactification which is related).
 
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