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7:00 PM
maybe one can measure the extent to which the things you say are puns
 
@leslietownes I can tell. :D
 
like today Leslie said a 95% pun
 
But got a 125% groan, regardless.
Geocalc is producing his version of Arsenic and Old Lace.
 
And I'm trying to get a new job at a startup
@XanderHenderson have you ended up in the Adeles?
 
7:17 PM
@geocalc33 The Cartesian product of the $p$-adics, taken over $p$? (roughly speaking)
Or the singer?
 
7:34 PM
yes
the cartesian product of the p-adics taken over p
wow that sounds cool you can have curves now
 
i ended up in wisconsin dells
 
@geocalc33 I have done an epsilon of work in the adeles.
 
I ended up in the Andeles
 
@XanderHenderson almost, you only take the elements in that product whose $p$-th component is in $\mathbb{Z}_p$ for all but finitely many $p$
and there's actually one more factor, which is just $\mathbb{R}$, corresponding to the place at infinity
 
7:50 PM
In my Linear Algebra book, a linear transformation $F$ is defined to be a transformation that satisfies the equality $$F(s\mathbf{u}+t\mathbf{v})=sF(\mathbf{u})+tF(\mathbf{v}),$$ where $\mathbf{u}$ and $\mathbf{v}$ denote vectors, and $s$ and $t$ scalars. Now, what about $$G(\mathbf{x})=\mathbf{a} +b \mathbf{x},$$ where $\mathbf{a}$ is a constant vector and $b$ a fixed scalar. It seems like this also should be a linear transformation although according to the definition it isn't.
 
@Thorgott Yes, I know. I didn't go into details because I was trying to disambiguate the mathematical object from the singer.
@Thorgott $\mathbb{R} = \mathbb{Z}_{\infty}$ :P
 
@XanderHenderson fair, i think the appropriate dog whistle is "restricted product"
 
@Thorgott Ah, yes. That would have done the trick.
Gotta keep them dog whistles in mind so that I don't get piled on by pedants. :D
(remembering that I am one of those pedants who will pile on to others)
 
Smol brain qvstchn inkoming
 
@MadSpaces Что?
 
8:00 PM
malenki mozg vopros ideyot
i think thats how you say that in russki
We know on teh reals that only ae^t is the derivative of itself, is there an analogous statement, for higher dimensions of R where functions equal to their derivative imply they are exponential type, or maybe other fields, like C
 
In contexts where I understand things well enough to have an opinion about your question, the exponential function is defined in such a way that it is its own derivative.
A common definition of $\exp$ is that it is the unique function which (a) satisfies $\exp' = \exp$ and (b) $\exp(0) = 1$. This works pretty well in $\mathbb{R}$ and $\mathbb{C}$.
 
Yes but thats on R^1. what about R^n, or C^n
 
The matrix exponential is typically defined via a power series. So, for example, if $A$ is a matrix, then we might define $$\exp(A) = \sum_{n=0}^{\infty} \frac{A^n}{n!}, $$ subject to appropriate hypotheses.
A similar definition works for linear operators in general (though, again, I am eliding details).
 
thats interesting i have not thought about that
But in general, we can still have functions whos at some points equal to its derivative, is there some naming for this?
 
One can formally define the derivative of a power series as $$ \frac{\mathrm{d}}{\mathrm{d}x} \sum_{n=0}^{\infty} a_n x^n = \sum_{n=1}^{\infty} a_{n} n x^{n-1}. $$ With respect to this definition, the matrix exponential satisfies $\exp' = \exp$.
My recollection is that the $p$-adic exponential is also defined via a power series expansion, but this is interesting, as that power series does not converge outside of a little disk around zero. But differentiation on the $p$-adics is weird, so *shrugs*.
 
8:09 PM
I am not familiar with p addicts, i need to google
 
$p$-adics. Not addicts.
This is a drug and alcohol free zone!
 
I am well aware of what i wrote.
 
(Notice that even my name is alcohol free.)
 
@BalarkaSen What does thinking like an analyst mean? Analysis can be formal and algebraic, so I'm wondering what I'm missing that you're probably referring to
 
yeah, the $p$-adic exponential is also defined that way
though i dont have the slightest clue whether thats a unique characterization in that case
i think differential equations over the $p$-adics are horribly behaved, since derivative $0$ doesnt imply constant anymore due to total disconnectedness or something along those lines
 
8:12 PM
@Thorgott Right.
Of course... something something... rigid analytic spaces... something... Tate's thesis... something something.
(Clearly, I know what I'm talking about.) :D
 
Your hair gray and you wear glasses. it implies wisdom
 
@MadSpaces My hair is not grey. :(
 
@XanderHenderson enough to scare me off
 
Though I have finally started finding some grey hairs in my beard.
 
I would love to get gray hair man! that would be amazing.
 
8:14 PM
of course...something something... adelic curve... something... something
 
Oh xander...
i always thought your picture (profile) is a gray beard.. i never made it bigger, its a mask..
 
However, all of the hair on my head still grows in brunette. That's why I have to shave it every couple of days.
 
what is a well behaved object in the restricted Cartesian product of the p-adics over p?
 
@geocalc33 Ur mom?
 
alright good night :D
 
8:21 PM
@MadSpaces Oh, so it is a "yo mama" joke which finally drives you away, eh?
Also, I should go. I need to pack for tomorrow.
 
8:36 PM
@ShaVuklia I don't know enough about analysis to say what thinking like an analyst means
All I can say is I just don't want to think like an analyst
 
I feel that way too
 
but some soundbites from analysis that haunt me in my everyday life are either elliptic PDEs, Sobolev spaces, index theory, etc or stochastic calculus, Gaussian processes, etc
if that gives an idea of what im thinking of when i say analysis
 
yea, that's what I would have in mind too I suppose
I'll be TA'ing a maths course for physicists next year that deals with ODEs and PDEs, and I'm low-key terrified xD
 
i think the subjects do not matter in my case. i fundamentally do not understand inequalities
 
terrifying indeed
 
8:42 PM
@BalarkaSen I've heard an algebra professor say that too, lol
 
physicists have the ability to not only solve differential equations, but also do it in ways that are notationally incomprehensible beyond belief
 
if i see $x < y$ i can chant that in my head and convince myself i understand it: "$x < y$, $x < y$, $x < y$, ..." and then an hour later i'd be chanting "$x > y$, $x > y$, ... or wait, what?"
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@Thorgott physicists are something else, that is for sure
I tried for 4 years to become one
 
@BalarkaSen do mod 2 inequalities instead
 
Now I just tell myself that I mistook my appreciation for geometry as a "passion for physics"
 
9:28 PM
@XanderHenderson that would be aluminum-free ;-p
oh, you are talking about ale...
 
9:55 PM
im going to start a company called ultradark technologies
where we leverage AI
to provide solutions for small businesses
 
if you name it ultradark technologies i expect it to sell synthetic vegan eyeliner
 
'sell me this synthetic vegan eyeliner"
if we can't get real AI
we'll hire some Argentinians intelligence and say we have AI
 
would probably repurpose whatever task it's set to do to reclaiming the falklands
 
when i was an undergrad, the computer science major had a limited enrollment. you had to apply to it and not everybody got in. cognitive science was a popular fallback because you could use a lot of comp sci courses for the major and you could still say you were majoring in "CS."
i'm mostly joking but i did know one or two people who would not say no if asked if they were CS majors, even though it was obvious the asker didn't mean cognitive science.
the AI thing reminded me of that.
 
haha
 
10:08 PM
another popular fallback was the math major, which was kind of ironic, because often the reason people didn't get into the CS major was their grades in math. "aww crap, i had to take calc 2 twice. i guess i have to major in .... math."
that was sometimes an adjustment for grad student TAs who had gone to undergrad at schools without a big engineering/CS presence, or where a majority of math majors actually specifically chose math.
 
10:43 PM
Suppose we define $A$ to be finite if and only if $A$ is empty or $|A| = \{1,...,n\}$ for some $n\in\mathbb N$. Then we define $A$ to be infinite when it is not finite. The theorem "$A$ is infinite if and only if there exists a $B\subsetneq A$ such and a surjection $B\to A$": does it need AC?
I feel like $\implies$ direction needs AC to construct a surjection $f\colon A\to\mathbb N$.
 
that could be. have you checked a set theory book that cares about stuff at this level? enderton might have it.
lots of stuff about 'comparing' infinite sizes ends up hinging on AC (or some other axiom) here and there, at least for some directions of things that feel like they ought to be equivalences.
 
I will immediately turn 80 years old if I crack open a book on set theory
 
i understand i could have answered that question the semester i took a set theory class. i deleted that part of my brain afterwards.
one tihng you could do would be to post on MSE, title "set theory question," and begin "ok, so i have an urn with 120 red balls and 60 blue balls, and if i draw 10 balls without replacement --- haha, just kidding, asaf, but now that i have your attention, [your question]." and tag it "set-theory"
 
Apparently this is infinite iff Dedekind-infinite. Apparently the --> direction needs AC according to wikipedia./
 
dedekind-infinite is "in bijection with a proper subset of itself"
 
10:49 PM
that's where i began to tune out. enderton treats things as "with AC" or "without AC" and doesn't get into all of the various choice-like principles that form a gradient of things between the two.
 
as dumb as it sounds, i dont see why "a proper subset surjects on it" implies "a proper subset bijects with it" in absence of choice
 
or if he did we skipped that in our class.
thorgott: i don't either, but there definitely are things in e.g. cardinal arithmetic that seem like they shouldn't need one to pick a flavor of choice, but somehow do. this maybe isn't a good example of that.
 
Since the topic is now set theory...
 
got worried for a second
@Thorgott @anak There exist models of ZF having an infinite Dedekind-finite set. Let A be such a set, and let B be the set of finite injective sequences from A. Since A is infinite, the function "drop the last element" from B to itself is surjective but not injective, so B is dually Dedekind-infinite.
However, since A is Dedekind-finite, then so is B (if B had a countably infinite subset, then using the fact that the elements of B are injective sequences, one could exhibit a countably infinite subset of A).
copied from wiki, i dunno what this means
A is dually dedekind infinite = there is a function A -> A which is surjective but not injective
infinite Dedekind-finite dually Dedekind-infinite is my rapper name
 
non-hopfian set

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11:05 PM
I made a song on GarageBand
I'm going to pitch it
that's actually not a bad rapper name
 
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