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8:22 PM
Here's a question
What's the simplest way to get Desmos to output this
 
i have a quicky
if i have a bilinear alternating form on a real vectorspace V, why can i make the assumption, that there are vectors of V such that $b(v,w) =1$ ?
 
0 is a bilinear alternating form
 
Except the zero
 
What do you think?
 
I dunno
 
8:27 PM
What does it mean for a bilinear map to not be 0?
 
What's the image of $b$
 
It means it is not zero.
 
Wow !! i never thought of that!! what a great reply
 
well the image has to a subset of the reals, i dont see why one needs to be an element of it
 
A subset of what kind
 
8:28 PM
What do you mean what kind? the funky kind.
$b: V \times V \to R $ it doesnt have to be surjective or what not right
 
Can the image of a linear map $V\to W$ between vector spaces be an arbitrary subset of $W$? Or does it have some extra structure
 
it is not linear, it is bilinear., if it were linear, then the zero is contained i know that
 
If you fix one of the entries it's a linear map
 
$b(-,w)$ is linear
 
yea man i dont know i am dumb, this is why i am asking, i dont remember why is one contained?
 
8:33 PM
Fix a bilinear map $b$ other than the zero map. Since $b$ is not the zero map, we can find vectors $v$ and $w$ such that $b(w,v)$ is nonzero
 
Call this $C:=b(w,v)$
What is $b(w/C,v)$?
 
= b( w+ [b(w,v)], v) , where [] are equivalence classes.
 
@MadSpaces What's the type of $C$? Scalar, or vector space?
 
You are building modulo right?
 
8:36 PM
No.
 
Oh okay its scalar ,who writes scalars as big letters?
usually used for sets
 
Sorry. $c:=b(w,v)$. What is $b(w/c,v)$?
 
much better
thats one
jesus ..
okay.. i am going to commit seppuku, thanks Akiva
 
(and the thing I was trying to get you to tell me is that the image of a linear map is a vector subspace)
 
Indeed. And since R is a one-dimensional space, the only vector subspaces are R itself (dim 1) and {0} (dim 0)
 
8:38 PM
And that a bilinear map is nonzero iff there exists v and w s.t. b(v,w) is nonzero
 
(so not only you can find $v,w$ such that $b(v,w)=1$, but as long as $b$ is not zero, for any $v\neq 0$ you can find $w$ with $b(v,w)=1$, and the statement is symmetric in $v,w$ of course)
 
Okay guys, thanks for the help, this was embarassing
 
@AlessandroCodenotti Hm? No, $b(v,-)$ can be the zero map even if $b$ and $v$ are nonzero
Let $b(v,w)=p(v)p(w)$ where $p$ is projection onto first coordinate, say
 
As long as $b(v,-)$ is not zero, fine
 
Fun fact: while the image of a linear map is a vector subspace, the image of a bilinear map is not necessarily a vector subspace
because $b(u_1,u_2)+b(v_1,v_2)$ has no reason to be in the image
Basically because $V\times W\neq V\otimes W$
I guess I mean $V\times W\not\twoheadrightarrow V\otimes W$, i.e., it doesn't surject onto it
 
8:49 PM
What is the importance of probability vector fields?
 
Is ChatJax being weird for anyone else? For me, when I type $\not\to$, the slash goes through the arrow, but when I type $\not\twoheadrightarrow$ it misses
(In retrospect I could've just said "$V\times W$ doesn't surject onto $V\otimes W$" in words)
 
A probability vector is a vector satisfying the properties $p=\begin{bmatrix} p_1 \\ p_2 \\ \vdots \\ p_n \end{bmatrix}\quad$

$\sum_{i=1}^n p_i = 1$

$0\ge p_i \ge 1 $
 
I guess it's a list of probabilities for $n$ events, and if it's a vector field then those probabilities depend on where you are?
I guess weather maybe? You have a two-vector of "will rain" "won't rain" and it depends on location
@geocalc33 $\le$, surely
 
yes @AkivaWeinberger of course, thanks
 
9:07 PM
I guess statistical manifolds generalize this
I've been rate limited on stack exchange. Never gotten that before
 
9:20 PM
Is there some kind of marking for dead users
Apparently this person here,
https://math.stackexchange.com/users/175066/dr-sonnhard-graubner
Has passed away, after googling his name in german, i found multiple sites, writing memorials about him , for his death. The one logging in is probably his daughter.
Passed last year juni, rest in peace.
 
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@MadSpaces See the answer here
 
Interesting thanks
 
This is a lovely book review: maa.org/press/maa-reviews/…
 
I will have to haunt MSE spookily after my death.
 
So for example, $ P(x; \xi) \sim \exp \left ( - \frac{(x-\mu)^{2}}{2\sigma^{2}} \right ) $ the $ \xi = (\mu, \sigma^{2}) $ parameters vector can be considered a coordinate system for the corresponding manifold
 
9:38 PM
@TedShifrin I aspire to haunt while I'm alive
 
@AkivaWeinberger Well, there's no denying you do that effectively.
 
this summer in Germany you can travel anywhere you want
for $10 dollars
a month transit pass
what's an example of two different math objects that are each representations of some other possibly more fundamental structure?
 
10:14 PM
Maybe lattice, torus, and elliptic curve is the best I can come up with
 
11:10 PM
@Ted Shifrin It should be correct now: $\frac{\partial \phi}{\partial x}=F(\frac{y}{x})+x\frac{d(F\circ g)}{dx_1}\cdot\frac{\partial g}{\partial x}=F(\frac{y}{x})+xF'(\frac{y}{x})\cdot (-\frac{y}{x^2})=F(\frac{y}{x})-\frac{y}{x}\cdot F'(\frac{y}{x})$ where $g:\mathbb{R}^2\to\mathbb{R},\ g\begin{pmatrix}x\\y\end{pmatrix}=\frac{y}{x}\equiv x_1$.
 
I wonder if I should buy Rudin xor spivak for real analysis.
 
@lorenzo OK. It might be good practice for you to set this up with the chain rule in matrix form, as in the earlier section.
 
Does anyone here know a good source that explains representability of cohomology, that is, the natural isomorphism $H^n(X;G)\cong [X,K(G,n)]_*$?
 
That was certainly in Spanier and other standard algebraic topology texts. Mosher/Tangora, too, probably. Does Hatcher not do that eventually?
 
11:28 PM
Thanks I'll have a look in Spanier's book
The part I'm confused about wasn't clear for me in Hatcher (but other parts were nice)
 
@TedShifrin and also $\frac{\partial\phi}{\partial y}=\frac{\partial}{\partial y}\left(xF(\frac{y}{x})\right)=x\frac{d(F\circ g)}{dx_1}\cdot\frac{\partial g}{\partial y}=xF'(\frac{y}{x})\cdot (\frac{1}{x})=F'(\frac{y}{x}).$ Thanks for the advice. I will certainly try to set this up using the chain rule in matrix form tomorrow. Bye!
 
hatcher does it via abstract nonsense, observing the RHS defines a cohomology theory and then comparing in zeroth degree
theres a nice obstruction-theoretic explanation here, though ive never worked out the details
 
right, yea, my notes give this cell-by-cell approach, and I was indeed hoping to find additional literature that covered this
"I think that a nice write up can be found in the first chapter of Mosher and Tangora (a very nice book)."
I guess I'll have a look there
 
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