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12:00 AM
You said Ax = lambda x
 
So how do you calculate $A^2 x$?
 
@Hopper when you multiply A by x , what do you end up with? matrix or vector?
@TedShifrin Hi again Ted
 
vector
 
yes what you are doing is geometriclly
you want to find which vectors you get once you multiply your matrix A by that point in same direction as x
that is what eigenvalue / vector is about
 
Hi again, Jack
 
12:07 AM
Ted can explain it better, with better wording also :D
 
 
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1:34 AM
I have a small question about abstract algebra. In the book, the author writes, "every finite group may be represented by a diagram known as a Cayley diagram". My question is: it seems for me that Cayley tables/diagram is very strong in terms of definition, I took a couple of examples with one and two generators and it works well. So, my question is: Does he say "may be represented by a Cayley diagram" because it is conjecture and we don't have a proof or because it is really incomplete diagram
 
i think he means "may" in the sense of "we can"
 
@Thorgott Thank you @Thorgott
 
 
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5:48 AM
Suppose $f : M \to \Bbb R$ is a Morse function with distinct critical points. What's the cleanest proof that if $g$ is very close to $f$, then $g = \psi^{-1} f \varphi$ where $\psi$ is a diffeomorphism of $\Bbb R$ and $\varphi$ is a diffeomorphism of $M$?
Say $f$ has critical points $p_1, \cdots, p_n$. $g$ is immediately Morse, so $g$ has distinct critical points $q_1, \cdots, q_n$ s.t $q_i$ is close to $p_i$
$\text{Diff}(M)$ acts $n$-transitively on $M$, so apply a diffeomorphism that takes $q_i$ to $p_i$
Then we have made $f$ and $g$ look the same near the common critical points $p_1, \cdots, p_n$, as $-x_1^2 + \cdots - x_{k_i}^2 + x_{k_i + 1}^2 + \cdots + x_n^2$, by Morse lemma, where $k_i$ is the index of $p_i$
All we have to do is apply a diffeomorphism of $M$ fixing $p_1, \cdots, p_n$ and a diffeomorphism of $\Bbb R$ to make $f = g$ globally
That should follow because $f, g$ are both submersive restricted to $M \setminus \{p_1, \cdots, p_n\}$, and submersions are structurally stable. What's a simple argument for that, now?
That should be something dumb
 
6:07 AM
$f : M \to N$ be a submersion and $g$ be very close to $f$. Let $X$, $Y$ be vector fields on $N$ and lift $X$ up to $\widetilde{X}$ in $M$ by the submersion. We want $f(\varphi^t_{\widetilde{X}}(x)) = \varphi^t_Y(g(x))$ for some $t$. Maybe we can solve for this.
That looks annoying
Ugh this should be something idiotic
 
6:39 AM
An ordinal is a transitive set of transitive sets. What's the equivalent characterization for a stage of the cumulative hierarchy?
Something to do with supertransitivity?
 
 
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9:15 AM
@BalarkaSen before proving that a vector bundle on $X \times I$ is the same as a vector bundle on $X$ they now asserted this to be a special case of $G$-principal bundles
brilliant
 
@user76284 what do you mean? $V_\alpha$ is not hereditarily transitive
 
@AlessandroCodenotti Wait, where did I say $V_\alpha$ is hereditarily transitive :P
 
What does "f(x)|g(x)" mean ??
 
@RafaelNadal g(x) is divisible by f(x)
 
9:50 AM
@LeakyNun hey are you there??
 
no idea
 
please explain property XX
 
my guess is that | means greater than or equal to almost everywhere and that they swapped the symbols in the second part
 
have you ever read any property like this ??
 
10:08 AM
I already told you my interpretation
 
10:33 AM
@user76284 that's why I'm asking what do you mean, because I don't know what supertransitive means
And it clearly doesn't mean hereditarily transitive
 
 
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12:19 PM
 
12:41 PM
@Thorgott Perfect I'll have a look at those books and see how it goes. But in simple terms, is the following sufficient: Fubini's theorem has three "segments"or "parts" (1) for simple rectangular regions where the function doesn't blow up to infinity anywhere [Fubini's theorem for rectangular regions (2) for simple, general regions where the function doesn't blow up to infinity anywhere [Fubini's theorem for general regions]
@Thorgott (3) for unbounded regions or for regions in which the function DOES blow up to infinity [Fubini's theorem for improper regions]. The condition for all three of these is that the integral has to be absolutely convergent (i.e. the double integral of the absolute value of the function must be finite).
If the integral is not absolutely convergent (like those conditionally convergent improper Riemann integrals I was talking about), then you can no longer use Lebesgue theory and it's best to not use Fubini's theorem (though of course, as you mentioned, you can do things like check for HK integrability and consult that version of Fubini's theorem for absolute certainty).
Is this a complete and accurate enough description/overview at an introductory level to the subject?
 
I'm looking at a definition of the Fisher Information matrix through an integral where you integrate w.r.t. x. I'd like to apply it to the logistic regression model where the response variable $y \in \{0,1\}$. Do I need to integrate w.r.t. x and y or can I just w.l.o.g. assume $y_i = 1$ and only integrate w.r.t. x?
 
12:56 PM
@BalarkaSen is there a principal G-bundle or a vector bundle that is trivial as a fibre bundle but not in its own category?
 
clearly not principal G-bundle because G-bundles with sections are trivial
 
I always love a good ``$X$: A Geometric Approach'' joke.
 
@MikeMiller oh right
 
vector bundle yes --- fiber bundles with fiber $\Bbb R^n$ are classified by $B\text{Homeo}(\Bbb R^n)$, so you're asking for spaces $X$ so that the map $[X, BO(n)] \to [X, B\text{Homeo}(\Bbb R^n)]$ has non-trivial kernel; in particular you have examples over spheres because these two groups are not homotopy equivalent
 
would you have an explicit example?
 
1:01 PM
no
there exist such but i do not have one
 
ok thanks
how about an $n$?
 
probably $n \geq 6$
 
and the dimension of $X$?
 
lol
amusingly though you can recover the isomorphism class of a vector bundle from its isomorphism class as a smooth fiber bundle with section
since $E \to M$ is the normal bundle of its zero section
the map $O(n) \to \text{Diff}(\Bbb R^n)$ is a weak equiv
 
oh wait so if I add "smooth" in my question then the answer is no?
 
1:06 PM
yes
 
so I'm looking for an $n$ with Homeo(R^n) not being Diff(R^n)
well I'm out of luck, since I know nothing about those two spaces
 
yeah that's not really a helpful phrasing
 
1:24 PM
Hello, people
 
Hello Tobias.
What have you been up to these days?
 
@anakhro Working from home. Not much different than the usual, just different company during the day
(slightly less quiet company)
 
Yea, that's the same here. :)
What are you working on lately?
@MikeMiller the fundamental group of a wedge of two manifolds is always the free product of the fundamental groups, right? This is because any point on a manifold admits a neighbourhood homeomorphic to R^n and thus is a retract onto the point. Then, you just use van Kampen.
 
I do development and maintenance of a software system
 
Oh nice, definitely something you can do from afar.
 
1:37 PM
It is a system owned by the government, for keeping track of Danish hunters and their hunting licences and all that stuff
as well as a self-service portal for the hunters
 
I feel like last time we talked you were still in academia.
 
Yeah, I need Citrix to connect to the production servers anyway, so that hasn't changed
 
Though my memory might be terrible.
 
Possibly. I have been out of academia for just over a year
What sort of stuff are you up to?
 
I started my Ph.D.
arguably not doing a good enough job at it already, but I am working at it.
 
1:40 PM
What subject?
 
Hopefully I can keep up with the contact geometry, but we only have symplectic geometers here so I might have to settle for $2n$ instead of $2n+1$.
 
You were into representation theory, right?
At least, knowledgeable on it.
 
yeah
That was my main area
 
Yeah, so my memory is probably correct. You helped me a great deal maybe 2 years ago when I took a representation theory of S_n class.
 
1:42 PM
cool
 
Been enjoying the change from academia to software?
 
Yeah. It has been nice to get some more concrete tasks to work on
And still plenty of challenges
 
One of my friends also made that switch recently and was really enjoying the change of pace and the "wow I am actually doing something" feeling.
 
Right
It is nice to do something and almost immediately have it make a difference somewhere
 
Are you more on the logistics side of things, or are you actually programming implementations and stuff?
 
1:44 PM
Not so much logistics, but a bit
It is a small project, so I get to do a wide variety of stuff that would usually have been done by more specialized people on bigger projects
 
Oh nice, that's always good. Definitely makes it less boring than if you are always depended on for the same job.
Also, small teams are the best.
 
@anakhro That's correct
 
For example, there will soon be some major changes to the regulations of how various exams related to hinting permits are handled. And I have been the one in chanrge of planning how to implement these in the syatem
 
@AlessandroCodenotti thanks for the confirmation! :)
@TobiasKildetoft do you find the tasks challenging, or just the right difficulty to keep you on your toes?
 
And as you noted it holds for all somewhat reasonable spaces, not just manifolds
 
1:47 PM
Where on a larger project, that would probably have been the job of a senior or even managing architect, and I would just have been told what to do afterwards
Some of the tasks are very challenging, some are rather boring, but most are just right
Planning a major change like this is on the challenging side. But I am aiming to become a senior architect at some point, so it is good to try it out
 
@AlessandroCodenotti what are you up to this weekend?
 
@TobiasKildetoft definitely a good to have a major landmark experience like that.
 
yeah, exactly
 
@anakhro I should be studying for a PDEs exam, but currently I'm procrastinating
 
1:53 PM
What did you do in your PDEs class?
 
Just glad they decided to bring in an actual senior architect for the upcoming transition to digital hunting permits. That would have been way over my head to do right.
 
PDEs are nice
 
Also I think it was you who suggested Brezis for functional analysis: I thank you!
 
@anakhro It was a semigroups of operators class, with applications to PDEs
 
@TobiasKildetoft is the senior architect just managing it, or is he helping out with the details, too?
 
1:54 PM
@anakhro Uhm I'm not sure, I really like the book and suggest it often, but I don't remember whether I suggested it to you :P
 
@anakhro I think he will mainly be on for the first part where the overall architecture needs to be set up. But there is still a bunch of stuff being worked out (such as whether they can actually get the budget approved from the relevant branch of government and so on)
 
@AlessandroCodenotti odds are high that it was you. :)
@TobiasKildetoft makes sense. Probably need someone with a little experience with those things to be around, too.
whoops
 
Though it sounded like the approval was almost guaranteed, since they want the digital hunting permit to be the spearhead of digitizing various permits and IDs (digital driver's licence was delayed significantly recently, so it is not expected to be ready for a few years yet)
 
I guess starting small with hunting permits is probably ideal before tackling driving permits.
 
yeah
I think fishing licences are already digital. But there is basically no security on those anyway, whereas the hunting licence is also the permit for owning a shotgun
 
2:08 PM
In that case it is probably a good idea to have security measures. :P
 
Can I ask for your thoughts on answering (as opposed to voting to close) problems that are clearly homework? Some time ago I posted an answer to a question regarding propositional logic and told the user where he/she/whatever could find additional resources on the matter. I got some upvotes and then 5 days later it was closed.
 
Personally I think we need to change the idea of answering on stackexchange from "give answers" to "give thoughtful hints"
 
3:02 PM
If $X$ is normal, must $X\times[0,1]$ also be normal?
Uh, apparently not, as proved by Mary Ellen Rudin in 1971 Dowker spaces are a counterexample
 
Very weird.
So normality is not preserved by products.
 
No but that's much easier to see by looking at the Sorgenfrey line and its square
 
My list of counterexamples for topology is very short.
 
@anakhro I wrote down the details a while ago here math.stackexchange.com/questions/3541353/…
Hi @Ted
 
Hi, demonic.
 
3:16 PM
That's a good writeup, Alessandro.
Hi Ted.
 
Hi anakhro.
 
*angelic, you mean
 
Never
 
So if I have a $S^2\vee M$ for another 2-manifold $M$, the universal cover of this \vee-sum is the universal cover of $M$ with a sphere glued to each lift of the shared point (from the \vee-sum), right?
 
3:31 PM
Sounds correct
 
It's kind of a cute thing to imagine. Like little buds growing on a tree.
Also, does anyone else hate that it is called a "wedge" sum?
 
Should work more generally but you get a tree like structure
 
Yeah, because it doesn't terminate with the sphere (which is 1-1 covering)
 
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Q: Universal Covering Space of Wedge Products

B. BischofToday I was studying for a qualifying exam, and I came up with the following question; Is there a simple description in terms of the subspaces universal covers for the universal cover of a wedge product? This question came about after calculating universal covers of the wedge of spheres ($\...

 
Hello
 
3:39 PM
Hi hat of feyn
 
Hi @anakhro.
If I have m smooth 1-forms on an n-dimensional manifold which are pointwise linearly independent, then can I get (n-m) more smooth 1-forms, so that I have n pointwise linearly independent smooth 1-forms?
 
That would imply that the (co)tangent bundle is trivial and the manifold is parallelizable if I'm not missing anything
 
Okay. For simplicity, assume m=n-1. So that I only need to obtain 1 1-form. At each point these (n-1) span a hyperplane in the cotangent space. I choose a vector outside this hyperplane.
 
Has @Ted run away already?
 
@anakhro Hello! Hola!
 
3:45 PM
@AlessandroCodenotti oh right, globally I can't.
...and locally its obviously possible.
right?
 
Should be, yes
 
hi Knight
 
4:05 PM
Hi Anakhro
 
I hope you are well.
 
I am trying to prove Cartan's lemma: $\omega_1, \dots, \omega_p$ are pointwise linearly independent 1-forms. And $\theta_1, \dots, \theta_p$ are 1-forms such that $\sum_{i=1}^p \theta_i \wedge \omega_i = 0$. Then $\theta_i = \sum_{j=1}^p A_{ij} \omega_j$ such that $A_{ij} = A_{ji}$.
On a chart I can extend $\omega_i$ to a basis, right?
 
Sounds like a linear algebra problem.
 
And on this chart I can write, $\theta_i = \sum_{j=1}^n A_{ij} \omega_j$
@anakhro yeah. It seems so.
Substitution this $\theta_i$ in the hypothesis, I will get that $A_{ij} = 0$ for all $j > p$ and $A_{ij} = A_{ji}$.
But this is only true in the chart.
 
But the chart was merely an extension
You just showed that no matter what coordinate functions you extend the chart with, their contribution to $\theta_i$ is zero.
 
4:19 PM
oh yes.
 
4:31 PM
@anakhro Yes, thank you. How are you? Is Anakhro your real name?
 
No.
It's an abbreviation derived from the etymology of anachronism. Ana means "against" and khronos means "time".
anakhronos means "against time".
But I shortened it to anakhro.
 
4:45 PM
@VJ123 I think there's only really one version and that's the general one; the boundedness has little to do with what makes the theorem work. (1) and (2) are more like corollaries of Fubini's theorem together with the easy fact that bounded measurable functions on bounded sets are integrable. But of course, none of what you said is wrong and if structuring like that helps you think about it, then I'm in no position to object.
 
Anyone here perfectly understands confidence intervals in probability and stats?
 
one might argue that no one truly understands anything in math perfectly
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@anakhro Wow!
 
5:34 PM
@AlessandroCodenotti $a$ is supertransitive iff $\forall x \forall y (x \subseteq y \in a \rightarrow x \in a)$.
 
 
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7:08 PM
Another way to phrase my question: without assuming the axioms of foundation or replacement, is there a formula $\phi(x)$ that is true if and only if $x$ is a stage/level of the von Neumann hierarchy? An example of a formula that is true iff $x$ is an ordinal would be: $x$ is well-founded and transitive, and every element of $x$ is transitive.
 
do you have induction on ordinals? @user76284
how about $\phi(x) \equiv \exists \alpha, \text{$\alpha$ is an ordinal} \land x = V_\alpha$
where "$x = V_\alpha$" means $\exists f : \alpha \to x, \forall \beta \in \alpha, f(\beta) = \bigcup_{\lambda < \beta} P(f(\lambda))$ and $x = \bigcup_{\beta < \alpha} P(f(\beta))$
 
Not sure. The background is this minimalist theory: math.stackexchange.com/questions/3596622/…
You can add extensionality if you want.
I have to think about that.
Basically I'm interested in seeing whether, given an ordinal $\alpha$, one can pick out the stage $V_\alpha$ corresponding to that ordinal (i.e. the minimum stage $x$ such that $\alpha \subseteq x$).
Oh it looks like Zuhair added an answer that might be relevant. I have to read that.
 
7:50 PM
Why don't we write $a : A$ instead of $a \in A$ yet?
 
8:38 PM
@TedShifrin Hey Ted. I think you're an expert on geometry, hopefully, also projective geometry. If yes, could you please have a look at this question: https://math.stackexchange.com/q/3607262/168764?
 
9:22 PM
@nbro: I didn't read it carefully, but projective transformations (and their inverses) take lines to lines.
 
@TedShifrin By lines you mean straight-lines, right?
 
9:44 PM
@nbro: They are not “straight” in standard models of projective geometry. They are projective lines. Mathematicians do not use the word “line” for general curves.
 
@TedShifrin But what I want to know is if a straight-line can be converted to parabola by a homography
 
Is a homography a projective transformation? By the way, projectively, a parabola is the same as a circle or hyperbola.
 
Your setup is confusing. I assume you're working inside the projective space $\Bbb P^2$, in which case the word "parabola" is strange terminology because parabola, ellipse, circle are all projectively the same thing.
Ah, Ted beat me to it
 
@TedShifrin Yes, I think that homography and projective transformation are synonymous
Yes, I know that a parabola, circle and hyperbola can all be represented by a conic
I still don't understand if a straight-line can be converted to a parabola (and vice-versa) or not
 
Lines can only go to lines under projective transformations, so no, lines cannot be mapped to a parabola.
 
9:58 PM
@BalarkaSen Well, yes, that's something that I was already suspecting. But I was more looking for a proof
Also, it's ambiguous when a person says "line", because a parabola is also a "line"
So, it's better you say straight-line
 
No, a line is a degree 1 curve. As Ted said, mathematicians do not use lines to mean a general curve.
 
Exactly, so the explanation that a homography cannot be convert a line to a parabola is because a line can be represented by a vector, while a parabola cannot?
 
Proof is easy, a projective transformation of $\Bbb P^2$ comes from a linear transformation of $\Bbb R^3$, and a line $\ell \subset \Bbb P^2$ is associated to plane $P \subset \Bbb R^3$ passing through the origin. Under a linear transformation of $\Bbb R^3$, $P$ will map to a plane through the origin, which will be associated to a line in $\Bbb P^2$
So image of $\ell$ under the projective transformation is a line.
 
But, to make sure, can conics be represented by vectors? Well, I know that a conic can be represented by a second-degree equation
 
What does represented by a vector mean
 
10:02 PM
For example, if you have a line ax + by + c = 0, then the vector [a, b, c] represents this line
 
I asked for a definition not an example though
I don't know what it means
 
That's the definition
a, b and c are arbitrary
That's the equation of a line (any line!) in the plane
 
Then you have defined "being represented by a vector" for lines, and not for conics.
So I don't know how to answer your question
 
Well, I thought you knew how to answer it, because I assumed you had more knowledge than me
Anyway, let me try to give you a visual example
Consider the following picture of a stadium
If I am able to upload it...
You can see that lines that are straight in the real world have become parabolas (or, in any case, another type of curve)
This means that, if I had a scheme of a football pitch, like the following one
There's no homography that will be able to map this scheme to the picture of the stadium above, right? Because any homography will convert any of the straight-lines of the scheme to other straight-lines, but the picture of the stadium above now contains parabolas
Right?
 
@BalarkaSen you have been summoned
 
10:12 PM
Well, yes, I guess I am right
 
@LeakyNun Whereof?
 
1
Q: Non-trivial $C^{k_1}$ vector bundle that is trivial as $C^{k_2}$ fibre bundle

Kenny LauFor given $\infty \ge k_1 \ge k_2 \ge 0$, are there non-trivial $C^{k_1}$ vector bundles over a "sufficiently nice" space that are trivial as a $C^{k_2}$ fibre bundle? How nice can the space be and still admit counter-examples?

 
A $C^k$-fiber bundle for $k \geq 1$ immediately has $C^\infty$-structure.
That's not quite what I mean. What I mean is the inclusions $\text{Diff}^k(n) \to \text{Diff}^\infty(n)$ are homotopy equivalences for $k \geq 1$.
 
hmm
 
So the only interesting difference is $C^0$ and $C^\infty$
 
10:15 PM
ok
 
Also what does a $C^{k_1}$-vector bundle mean, man?
The transition functions are linear in a vector bundle.
 
can I say that the $E \to B$ is $C^{k_1}$
or does that make no sense
 
I am having trouble understanding. $E, B$ need not be manifolds
 
Hi
@BalarkaSen This makes sense
The transition functions are maps $U_i \cap U_j \to GL_m$
 
An $n$-plane bundle, aka a fiber bundle with $\Bbb R^n$ fibers, is said to be $C^k$ if the transition functions are $C^k$-diffeomorphisms of the fibers. A vector bundle is a smooth $n$-plane bundle by that token
So what's the point of the adjective "$C^{k_1}$-"?
 
10:22 PM
There seems to be something lost in translation here. A "$C^k$ fiber bundle" should be whatever structure you need for the total space to be $C^k$ and the projection map to be $C^k$
Sure, for a vector bundle each $\varphi_{ij}(x) \in GL_m$ is a smooth map, but that's not the right condition --- it's that $\varphi_{ij}: U_i \cap U_j \to GL_m$ is a smooth map
 
OK, he should mention that explicitly. I'd call an $n$-plane bundle $C^k$ if the transition functions are maps to $Diff^k(\Bbb R^n)$.
 
That's wrong though.
Clearly the total space of a "smooth fiber bundle" should have the structure of a smooth manifold
Stupid name otherwise
 
I don't see why it's wrong :P
But I accept it if that's what's meant
 
If your transition maps are $C^0$ maps to $\text{Diff}^\infty(M)$ then you just get fiberwise smooth structure, not smooth on the total space
 
A priori Leaky did not mention anything about the bundles being over manifolds in the first place I mean
 
10:25 PM
Which means all the usual smooth machinery is mostly gone
Oh I wasn't paying attention lol
 
I apologize for the confusion
 
I'm just explaining why the right notion is to have transition maps so that $U_i \times U_j \times F \to F$ is smooth instead of fiberwise smooth
 
Sure, I call something a smooth fiber bundle only if it's a fiber bundle between smooth manifolds with projection map also smooth. It just didn't make sense in Leaky's context for me
 
Yeah yeah we're all good no need for further clarification
@BalarkaSen To be clear the difference is like
 
"no need for further clarificiation"
Lmao
 
10:28 PM
Between continuous maps $X \to BDiff^r(F)$ vs "$C^r$ maps" $X \to BDiff^r(M)$
 
Ya
Good point
 
But as you would expect one has smoothing results --- every continuous map homotopic to a $C^r$ map, and so on
So up to isomorphism these are indistinguishable notions
 
Right, I'd imagine it's only the fiberwise stuff that matters.
good points
 
If you want call them "$C^{r,s}$-bundles, where $r \leq s$, and you demand that the diffeomorphisms are fiberwise $C^s$ and that the transition maps $U_i \cap U_j \times F \to F$ are $C^r$
And then $\text{Bun}_{r,s}(M) \cong \text{Bun}_{r',s'}(M)$ so long as $s,s' \geq 1$ or $s = s' = 0$
 
Take $M$ be the exotic $7$-sphere. Then you have two bundles over $S^7$, given by $TS^7$ and $TM$. In the $C^{0, 0}$ sense these are isomorphic, but what else can you say?.
 
10:33 PM
the $r$ is inconsequential
@BalarkaSen Are they isomorphic in the $C^{0,0}$ sense? I don't remember
 
Yeah I think so
At least that's what I thought "exotic spheres cannot be distinguished by their tangent bundles" meant.
Well, also, $\pi_6 O(7)$ should be computable
Let's look it up
Ok, $0$
So there you go, $C^{0, 0}$-isomorphic
 
Great
It wouldn't really make sense to talk about them being iso or not in the $C^{r,s}$ sense since they have different bases
You've also already shown they're $C^{0,\infty}$-isomorphic since transition functions are linear
 
Can we pull $TM$ back to $S^7$ by the homeomorphism $S^7 \to M$? I guess I lose the "transverse" (as opposed to "fiberwise") smooth structure if I do
It's a bit confusing to me
 
This is lame
 
Is there a smooth homeomorphism $S^7 \to M$? lol
 
10:41 PM
yeah, they're PL homeo and you pick a smooth map which is diffeo on interiors of top simplices which dampens along the edges
but don't do this crap
 
Lmfao
nice man
this is your field
 
not "pulling back transverse $C^r$ structures of tangent bundles of exotic spheres"
that is not my field
oh i forgot "by smooth homeomorphisms which have a simplicial complex for a singular set"
lunacy
3
 
LOL
 
This is like when I try to get you excited about technical garbage
 
This makes me glad to be corps-less (sans field] ...
 
10:45 PM
Yeah I'm sure what you really want to do is prove that if $E \to C$ is a bundle of Hilbert spaces, then $GL(E)$ is a fiber bundle of Hilbert Lie groups, I'm definitely not just conning you into listening
 
lool
 
so yeah do you have an explicit counter-example @BalarkaSen
14 mins ago, by Mike Miller
And then $\text{Bun}_{r,s}(M) \cong \text{Bun}_{r',s'}(M)$ so long as $s,s' \geq 1$ or $s = s' = 0$
 
@MikeMiller this guy man
this guy still needs an explicit counterexample
 
:c
 
im crying
 
10:48 PM
gladly losted
 
@BalarkaSen or does exotic spheres provide counter-examples
@BalarkaSen also do you like this rendition of BWV 639
 
oh this sounds good
they look like a bunch of dorks but yeah it sounds good
 
Eduard Artemiev's version for Tarkovsky's Solaris is the best version
but I am biased :P
 
@BalarkaSen this?
 
10:58 PM
yes
 
why do I feel like they added some extra notes
 
nerd
 
which makes it better i suppose
I like more voices
I mean, they added another voice to the whole thing
 
gotcha. i dont really understand music; this just stuck because it was in the movie which i liked a lot
 
i'm referring to the bell-like voice
I don't know what that is
 
11:02 PM
oh probably synth
 
1:12 G - Bb - Eb
these three notes
yeah ok i'm a nerd and i should probably go to sleep
it's 7am now
 
nice man
 
I hear violin towards the end even
 
@BalarkaSen I mean it's the same question he asked yesterday
He wants to see a vector bundle which is trivial as a topological fiber bundle
I just don't care to do the literature review
 
Yeah I was just picking on him
 

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