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8:00 PM
@evinda The $y+x^2-1 = y +\langle x-1\rangle$ is wrong, on the left, you have a polynomial, on the right a coset of an ideal. To show that $\langle a,b\rangle = \langle c,d\rangle$, you show that $a,b \in \langle c,d\rangle$ and $c,d \in \langle a,b\rangle$. Here we have $a = c$, which makes half of the thing trivial. Then you write $y = (y+x^2-1) - (x-1)(x+1)$ to show $y\in \langle x-1,y+x^2-1\rangle$, and the remaining bit should be a straightforward modification.
 
Heya, I saw an interesting question on the site recently ^^
Show that for $\varepsilon \ll 1$ we have $$\int_a^{\infty}\frac{\mathrm{d}x}{1+x^2}< \varepsilon$$ whenever $a > 1/\varepsilon$
 
@robjohn that was a crazy nice shot! I also saw you doing something like that in another answer. :-)
 
@Chris'ssis I feel it is an intuitive approach
@Chris'ssis If you approximate the binomials with the right normal distributions, limits usually work out pretty simply.
 
@robjohn Indeed.
 
@N3buchadnezzar $$\frac{1}{1+x^2} < \frac{1}{x^2}$$
 
8:10 PM
@DanielFischer So, can we prove it like that?

$$\langle x-1, y+x^2-1 \rangle =\langle x-1, y \rangle: $$

- $x-1=x-1+0 \cdot y \Rightarrow x-1 \in \langle x-1, y \rangle \\
y+x^2-1=(x+1)(x-1)+y \in \langle x-1, y \rangle$

$$\Rightarrow \langle x-1, y+x^2-1 \rangle \subseteq \langle x-1, y \rangle$$

- $x-1 \in \langle x-1, y+x^2-1 \rangle \\ y = (y+x^2-1) - (x-1)(x+1) \Rightarrow y \in \langle x-1, y+x^2-1 \rangle $

$$\Rightarrow \langle x-1, y+x^2-1 \rangle \supseteq \langle x-1, y \rangle$$
 
@DanielFischer I just saw that the integral was the same as $\int_0^{1/a}\mathrm{d}x/(1+x^2)$ then taylor ^^
 
@N3buchadnezzar Works too, of course.
 
@DanielFischer Or have I done something wrong? :/
 
@DanielFischer I prefer your method.
 
@evinda Yes, that is correct. Now you need to see that $\mathbb{C}[X,Y]/\langle X-1,Y\rangle \cong \mathbb{C}[Y]/\langle Y\rangle$ (which, by the way is $\cong \mathbb{C}$). If it were $\mathbb{C}[X,Y]/\langle X,Y\rangle$, would you see the isomorphism?
 
8:17 PM
@DanielFischer How can we show that $\mathbb{C}[X,Y]/\langle X-1,Y\rangle \cong \mathbb{C}[Y]/\langle Y\rangle$?
 
are there any galois-theory experts about? i've got a question which i don't quite know how to formulate
 
@evinda For example by giving an isomorphism.
 
@DanielFischer How can I find an isomorphism? :/
 
I'm no expert @Semiclassical, but maybe I'll do
 
k. what i'm interested in is: suppose I somehow make a random quintic with rational coefficients. this quintic is either solvable or not
 
8:20 PM
@evinda Can you find a homomorphism $\mathbb{C}[X,Y]\to \mathbb{C}[Y]$ whose kernel is $\langle X-1\rangle$?
 
what i'm wondering is the density of those two sets in the space of random quintics.
 
I was looking at math.stackexchange.com/questions/1017169/… . I don't have enough rep but do you think it has the right tags?
 
i suppose i could just say 'integer coefficients' instead, shouldn't make a difference
 
it only has 8 views so far!
clearly it has unpopular tags in any case
 
@MikeMiller: i think the answer for this question implicitly answers what I was after
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Q: Is the Galois group associated to a random polynomial solvable with probability 0?

CharlesChoose a random polynomial $P\in\mathbb{Z}[x]$ of degree $n$ and coefficients $\leq n$ and $\geq-n$. Let $r_1,\ldots,r_n$ be the roots of $P$ and consider $$G=\operatorname{Gal}(\mathbb{Q}(r_1,\ldots,r_n)/\mathbb{Q})$$ What is the probability, as $n\to\infty,$ that $G$ is solvable? (I assume 0...

 
8:26 PM
@Semiclassical oh, I didn't notice the response til you pinged me.
 
ah, sorry.
and actually, not sure what i linked applies directly
 
Not really sure how one could formulate random in this context. I think perhaps you want a density
 
right
 
let's write our quintics $x^5+a_0x^4+\dots+a_4$
 
omg my grades are going down
 
8:28 PM
$$\lim_{N \to \infty} \frac{\text{# of solvable quintics with } |a_i|<N}{N^5} = 0?$$
 
Some of my finals are cumulative so I have to memorize the entire textbook for those classes
 
I would be very surprised if this limit wasn't calculated before but I don't know it
 
@mikemiller yeah, that's why it's a little frustrating that i can't find an answer
 
@Mike! I started a bit of toplogy, so far really interesting :) But barely even scrapped the entrance I'm afriad
 
@mikemiller presumably it's known whether the solvable/unsolvable cases are dense in the set of rational quintics
and that's all i really am curiosu about
 
8:33 PM
@DanielFischer How can I find just an homomorphism? :/
 
@Semiclassical Take it on my word as a non-expert who has for some reason decided he knows what the answer should be that the unsolvable ones are dense
 
i imagine you're right, but a solid reference would be nice
 
@Studentmath I find the stuff that comes later a lot more interesting; the basics are just the language one needs... but I'm not supposed to say this out loud
 
@evinda Do you know the universal property of polynomial rings?
 
As always :P But I guess if I even enjoy the langauge, I might just enjoy the whole course
 
8:36 PM
Yup
 
@MikeMiller: i'm going to put a question together. i'll let you know when it's up
re this density business
 
@DanielFischer I haven't got taught it but I searched for it.. Should the ring homomorphism $\phi$ satisfy $\phi(x)-1=0$ ?
 
@evinda In plainer terms, we map $X\mapsto 1$.
(And $Y\mapsto Y$)
 
Hello, please if $X=Y\oplus V$ so for an element $x\in X$ then $x=y+v$ where $y\in Y$ and $v\in V$ but how is writting $x\in X\setminus V$ please
 
Can you see that that is surjective, @evinda?
 
8:46 PM
@DanielFischer Is the universal property of polynomial rings the only way to find an homomorphism?
 
@evinda No, you can just go ahead and define a map and check that it is a homomorphism. The universal property just makes it easy, you know that you only need to define the values at $X$ and $Y$, and everything else comes for free.
 
@Chris'ssis I've just thought of an extremely simple way to look at that question. I may post a second answer.
 
@robjohn Really? Well, I'm looking forward to it! :-)
 
@DanielFischer So that it is surjective it must be: $$\forall y \ \exists x : \phi(x)=y$$

We have that $\phi(X)=1$ and $\phi(Y)=Y$.

So it follows that $\phi$ is surjective.

Is this right? Or have I done something wrong? :/
 
@evinda Well, whether it suffices to see that $Y$ is in the image depends on what you (officially) know. But it's pretty easy to show that the map is surjective directly, we have a canonical injection $\mathbb{C}[Y] \hookrightarrow \mathbb{C}[X,Y]$.
 
9:01 PM
@DanielFischer I haven't got taught canonical injection... How can I show that if $Y$ is in the image, the map is surjective?
 
@DanielFischer I used your idea in an answer Daniel. It felt so low hanging fruit... math.stackexchange.com/questions/1017358/…
 
@MikeMiller: Posted. not sure i formulated it well, but eh
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Q: Are most rational quintics unsolvable?

SemiclassicalIt is well-known that, as polynomials of degree exceeding 4, there exist quintics whose roots cannot be solved for by radicals (Abel-Ruffini theorem). So we can divide the set of rational quintics into those which are solvable by radials and those which not. Obviously, both subsets are infinite ...

 
@evinda We can just regard a polynomial in $Y$ as a polynomial in $X$ and $Y$ (that happens to not include any positive powers of $X$). To see that it is sufficient that $Y$ is in the image, note that the image is a subring of $\mathbb{C}[Y]$ containing $\mathbb{C}$ (since $\phi$ is the identity on $\mathbb{C}$) and $Y$. But by definition, $\mathbb{C}[Y]$ is the smallest ring containing $\mathbb{C}$ and $Y$.
 
@Semiclassical They absolutely do have the same cardinality, that's not the right question.
 
9:14 PM
The density questions from earlier were the right ones... not sure why you didn't use those
 
because i didn't know the right way to say it :/
 
what was wrong with them as stated?
 
it got lost in translation as i was typing it out, unfortunately.
 
@robjohn The difficulty I had yesterday with a question I could not see on the front page was due to a fault of mine: one of the tags, (calculus), was by mistake in my list of ignored tags.
 
@DanielFischer Thanks for the assistance previously, helped a lot.
 
9:18 PM
@AméricoTavares Ah. Good to have that sorted out. Things are back to normal then?
 
@MikeMiller: i'd rather avoid placing it in the context of computing a specific limit, though. i should find a way to properly replace the reference to cardinality with density instead
 
@Semiclassical I added both interpretations in the comments
Why avoid the limit? That's the notion of natural density.
 
ah, only saw the first one
arbitrarily, i like the second one more,
 
@Moses You're welcome.
 
@robjohn Yes, everything is now normal.
 
9:20 PM
@Semiclassical And I like the first more! If it were even possible to do the second in the same way as the first I'd do that.
But there's no nice way to get randomness in the rationals.
 
yeah
as an extension, i'm also curious what happens if you consider a 'random' polynomial of arbitrary degree. but the notion of density in that case is even worse
 
nuh-uh
both of those things we wrote down generalize perfectly well
 
really? hmm.
like i said, i don't know how to formulate it properly :P
give me a math-physics calculation and i'm on solid ground
 
I don't really see what the issue is... replace "quintic" by "degree $k$" and $5$ by $k$
ohh, you don't mean fixed degree
ok I agree that one's in trouble
 
right
 
9:24 PM
one can generalize the second thing pretty easily but both are probably dense in that case, I think
 
anyways, i'd best work on editing my question for clarity of intent
 
I think one can generalize the first just by switching the density to "sum of absolute value of coefficients is less than $N$"
 
9:38 PM
Hmm, I want to show I can map every number in (-1,1) to $x/(1+|x|)$. I forgot how to do that..
 
@MikeMiller: updated, hopefully more clear. i used both of your formulations
 
Where $x\in \Bbb R$
 
@Studentmath I don't know what you mean, that the map $\Bbb R \to (-1,1)$ given by that formula is surjective?
 
Yes
It feels so trivial I don't know where to begin
 
Restrict to one side at a time
 
9:40 PM
Hi everyone
 
Pick $r \in (0,1)$ or $r \in (-1,0)$
And then solve for $x$
 
Oh yeah, that'll do, thanks!
 
Anyone good at electromagntism?
 
I think there's a physics room that's more suited for physics questions
But we do have a physicist on staff here
 
hah
@pourjour: what kind've E&M question?
 
9:46 PM
But, there is no mathematician on staff in the physics room :P
 
@Semiclassical I need a general help to find some textbooks for graduated students on electromagnetism like maxwell equations and so
 
ahh
the standard one for grad EM classes is jackson
beyond that, i'm not so sure. (i went in the QM direction rather than EM)
 
@Semiclassical jackson is the name of the writer isn't it?
 
mhm
presumably he's referring to "classic electrodynamics"
 
@MikeMiller ahh I see, I just made a quick search and I found it, thanks
 
9:57 PM
@Semiclassical if you don't get an answer proving my limit formulation i'll repost it with emphasis on that
 
@MikeMiller Thank you I appreciate that
 
To show that no square is isometric to equilateral triangle, is it enough to just go:
A square has 2 pairs of dots at maximal distance (the non-adacent vertices), and an equilateral triangle has 3 (each pair of vertices)?
 
seems good to me
lol isometries
 
Will just show how it invalidates the surjectiveness if it is to keep the metric distance
Yeah...
 
"number of vertices at maximal distance" is an isometry invariant; you do need to prove that, of course
 
10:07 PM
@MikeMiller: good call. I like RI's answer, but I'm holding out hope for something more extensive
 
10:19 PM
Last bothering for the night: The interoir is defined as the set of points, so that there is an open ball in the space centered at that point. Why $IntQ=IntN=\emptyset$? If I take x=1, there is an open ball with radius 5 in $\Bbb N$ which holds {1} itself for example
Nevermind I am stupid I get it now.
 
So be careful. The interior is defined for subsets of a topological/metric space. In the case of $\Bbb Q$ and $\Bbb N$, you're probably considering them as subsets of
oh
 
Precisely, subsets of $\Bbb R$
 
Hi guys, I have a basic probability question. Let A a vector with x^2 entries each of one has a positive integer value. Let C a vector when I get arbitrary elements from A with the constraint that they can be at most x. (e.g., x-2 from entry 1 and 2 from entry 3 or 1 from entry 1 and stop) How many possible C are there? I would say (x+1)^x^2. Am I correct?
 
Does anyone know a thing or two about optimal control?
 
Hello Professor @TedShifrin
 
10:23 PM
I am not sure I get the question right @newbie. What do you mean they can be at most x?
 
hi @skull, @Studentmath
oh, and @Mike who ignores me
 
Hello Prof. @Ted
 
How do I ignore you, @Ted?
 
You ask me questions and tell me you're too busy to think about my answers.
 
All I need to ask is, how do we tell which is the $P$ node and which is the $Q$ node for optimal control?? Do we always take $C^+$ curves from the $P$ node?
 
10:24 PM
@Studentmath: Hope you enjoyed those problems. I've been learning about the conditional variance formula today ... :P
 
@Ted It was an unexpected busyness. But yes, that's fair. Let me go back and find your question and think about it.
 
I mean that I can bring at most x elements, e.g. suppose to have x=2 so |A|=4 and [1,2,3,4] so I can take 2 elements, e.g.[1,0,1,0] or [0,0,0,0] etc
 
It wasn't my question :D And that was a whole day ago.
 
Noone knows this here do they?
 
Sorry, @Committing, I don't.
 
10:26 PM
I will assume it is the case then
 
@Ted I only had time to do the second one, but it was fun indeed! Gave thought to the other two just to make sure I still recall how to do it, but didn't do the technical stuff sadly. When will you teach it?
 
I need to go mainstream next semester xD
 
(The conditional variance formula)
 
That stuff is this week's homework, @Studentmath. I'm doing $aX+bY$ for $X$ and $Y$ standard normal rv's tomorrow. ... Then stuff on conditional expectation and variance next week. (I found a problem on the web that shows up on actuarial exams, so that should convince them they should know how to do it. :D)
 
What you asked was "You have $G\to G/H$ is an $H$-principal bundle. To what representation is $T(G/H)$ the associated bundle?"
Lemme think of some special cases.
 
10:28 PM
It's actually interesting ... and important for computing curvature from representation theory. (Yikes, no, I am not an algebraist.) Nor have I thought about it in a number of years. I need to make sure I scan those lecture notes before I burn my office.
 
Does it have a chance to motivate the non-A students?
 
Why should there be a representation that makes that the associated bundle at all?
 
I don't know, @Studentmath. I think my department head thinks I'm doing too much hard stuff, but, as usual, I feel I owe the top half of the class a real class.
Because if the vector bundle has a $G$-action, then it must be an associated bundle for some representation :P
 
what do you owe the bottom half of the class?
 
Well, the problems I saw thus far seem pretty much the same as the problems they gave me in the course based on the same book, or even nicer.
 
10:32 PM
Is that obvious? I'm not seeing it.
 
Plus the Test I had didn't have questions of the same kind as I practiced - well the principles always apply but you get what I mean..
 
@skull: Since most of them seem not to care about learning, not much. The ones who come for help, I help graciously.
 
@TedShifrin fair enough :-)
 
But my frustration with not motivating students to care/work is the large reason for my retiring, even though half the students are asking me not to.
I think it is deducible, yes, @Mike.
 
I think there's a limit to how much one can motivate students to care/work, plus people care and work less as more is on the internet and as degrees become a necessity more than something you want
 
10:34 PM
@Studentmath: More reason for me to quit.
 
That's a fair point :P
 
I'm very conflicted, but I think I will give my letter soon. My department head asked for it today if I'm going to, in fact, retire.
 
There's also the point of the some that do care and want to work, or need a bit of motivation to do it
But I should shut up and go back to homework
 
Hi @Khallil
 
I don't even see why it should be true. You mean that if I have a vector bundle $E$ on a manifold $M$ with a $G$-action on $E$, I should be able to obtain $E$ by taking the associated bundle of a principal bundle and a representation of $G$. But the action of $G$ on the latter thing fixes fibers, and there's no reason it should on the former...
 
10:37 PM
@Studentmath: I used to be very proud that I motivated C students to become A or B students in much harder classes.
 
Hey, @skullpatrol!
 
principal @Mike :D GRR.
 
You've changed your username back, @skull?
 
@Khallil yep :D
 
When I said $G$-vector bundle, I meant it acts fiber by fiber, @Mike.
 
10:37 PM
Awesome!
 
hi @Khallil
 
How does it do that on $T(G/H)$?
 
Hey, @Ted! Tips fedora
^_^
 
That is an $H$-bundle, not a $G$-bundle. Reread :D
 
How've you both been, @Ted and @skull?
 
10:39 PM
Fine thanks. How about you pal?
 
I think I'm still alive, @Khallil, and you?
 
@AméricoTavares great!
 
I don't see how it's an $H$-bundle in any interesting way.
 
heya @robjohn :)
 
@Chris'ssis added.
 
10:39 PM
I suppose if I did see how it was an $H$-bundle I would see what representation of $H$ gave it to me :P
 
I'm doing quite well, @Ted! What's this I've heard about retiring? :(
 
Well, work on it, @Mike.
 
@TedShifrin Hey, Ted!
 
It's not new news, @Khallil.
 
Long time no see, @robjohn!
 
10:40 PM
OK, I will.
 
Bows down to @robjohn
 
@robjohn: Apple seems to want me not chatting on my iPad ...
 
I'm sorry, @TedShifrin. I've been out of the loop for a while now!
 
I can't get into the room at all on Safari, and can't load chatjax on Chrome (I never could).
 
@Khallil How are things?
 
10:41 PM
Very good, @robjohn! University is fun! I managed to snag some fantastic lecturers. ^_^
How are things on your end, @robjohn?
 
fortunate for you, @Khallil.
 
@TedShifrin I am sorry... Might it have to do with Flash? I wonder if chat uses Flash for some of the ads.
 
I have no clue, @robjohn. From error messages, it seems HTML5 related.
 
Given an $n$-plane bundle one can take the associated $k$-plane Grassmannianization. I was amused to note that a smooth $k$-distribution is the same as a smooth map to this Grassmannian...
 
Indeed, @TedShifrin!
 
10:43 PM
Yuppers @Mike
 
@TedShifrin Hmm... My OS on my laptop is old, but my browser is fairly up to date, so I might not see HTML5 problems here.
 
If you're on IE, then there might be a compatibility mode in the browser, @Ted.
 
@Khallil pretty good. Busy
 
no, no, it was iOS 8.1 (as opposed to 8.0.2) that killed me ...
 
It seems people frequently like to talk about smooth distributions/forms/whatever in terms of how they act on other smooth things (e.g., a smooth $n$-form is one that spits out a smooth function whenever you give it smooth vector fields) instead of just smooth maps, when they always seem to be interpretable as the latter...
 
10:44 PM
some things are better said as definitions, other as conceptual understandings, @Mike. I try to minimize abstraction when possible with definitions.
 
@MikeMiller Is this all graduate level or?
 
That's fair. But it seems rare to even bring up the latter. Petersen even likes to define a smooth metric as one that operates smoothly on smooth things and never talk about sections or anything.
I suppose I don't need to convince you that Petersen's presentation isn't the best, though.
 
I agree, @Mike, I do like to say a smooth section of $\text{Sym}^2 T^*M$.
 
@Committingtoachallenge I'd say so, yes.
 
Poor Jacob has to undeclare allegiance to me and redeclare to Petersen, @Mike, so be patient :P
 
10:47 PM
@MikeMiller shouldn't @Semiclassical 's question be on MO?
 
Why should it be, @UserX?
 
ACtually, @Mike, if you look at my notes, you'll see — with my algebro-geometric influence — I emphasize vector bundles in general way more than most courses.
 
@MikeMiller not many people on MSE have the knowledge to answer it imo
 
I'm a vector bundle fan, I'd say.
@UserX I don't see why you come to that conclusion. In addition, that's not the same thing as "should be on MO".
 
@MikeMiller MO is full of researchers in specialized fields. That's a pretty general question but I presume it requires specialized knowledge
 
10:50 PM
Galois theory is covered in undergraduate algebra courses... I'm not sure I'd call that specialized knowledge.
 
most of us cover extensions over $\Bbb Q$ without necessarily discussing normal/separable. Indeed, many undergraduate courses never get to it at all.
 
That's what I mean by "the question is general, the answer won't be"
 
That's a fair point, @Ted, but my objection remains.
 
what is @UserX's question?
 
He thinks this question should be on MO. I think it would be poorly received.
 
10:54 PM
Hrm, is there a way to prove Diam(ClA)=Diam(A) without using two $\epsilon$ open balls around $x,y$ in $ClA$?
 
This reminds me of Tchebotarev density theorem type results — e.g., "almost all" integer polynomials are reducible mod every $p$ (shockingly). I would think we'd get an adequate answer for it on MSE, without MO.
Use definitions, @Studentmath.
 
What is the polynomial from your text again @Ted?
 
$x^4-10x^2+1$, @Kaj, but $x^4+1$ will work, too, nicely.
oh, and hi.
 
haha, hey. I've been lurking for a few minutes.
 
@Kaj and @Mike are supposed to be impressed that, even with my Alzheimers, I remember these.
 
10:57 PM
LOL
 
I slept 7 hours and just woke up. It's a beautiful morning here.
 
sounds like you might be getting over the 'flu, @Jasper
 
@Ted I'm impressed by your memory and breadth of knowledge rather close to constantly. I don't think I should need to say this every time you speak!
 
I am impressed that I can still differentiate sin x after all these years.
 
I've long forgotten how to differentiate.
 
10:58 PM
@Mike: I have been forgetting more and more, quite seriously.
 
Anyway, I will be studying Calculus I on New Year's Day.
 
@Ted I'm sorry to hear that.
 
Using definitions I would go: Obviously $Diam(A)\le Diam(ClA)$ as $A\subset ClA$. On the other hand, assume $Diam(ClA)>Diam(A)$, then the two points are in the boundary. Yet we know that if $x\in \delta A$ then $d(x,A)=0$, so I can take $y'in A$ so that $d(x,y)\to 0$ and.. then again I am back to using epsilon in an informal way.
 
Can't even remember names of some students I've taught recently ...
 
I might log into chat every day to report my progress of reading next year.
 
10:59 PM
Using $\varepsilon$-balls is the right way to do it, @Studentmath.
@TedShifrin If it makes you feel better, I can't either.
 
The point is that $\sup$ turns into $\max$ when you include the boundary points, @Studentmath.
 
I don't remember the names of some students I learned with @Ted
 
LOL, @Mike, I've had plenty of colleagues who never could, but I could. :D
 
I think my favourite subject was point set topology.
 
Heh, most..
 
11:00 PM
I'm sorry to hear that, @JasperLoy.
 
@MikeMiller You don't like it? Well, my uni did not offer as many courses as Cambridge, of course.
 
It is a necessary language if one wants to talk about things that are actually interesting.
But I'm not supposed to say this out loud.
 
My whole course is about it @Mike :(
 
Anyway, even when I finish my 12 holy books, there are still many Cambridge topics I have not covered.
 
@Jasper: Honestly, I think it's high time you stop talking about this months in the future and just get started, bit by bit.
 
11:02 PM
@JasperLoy I wonder if you'll be in awe when you relearn stuff that made you scratch your eyes the first time
 
@TedShifrin OK. It's part of my obsessions to start on 1/1. And if I don't make it, I might have to wait another year. So I hope I make it this time.
@UserX Have you changed your mind about being a doctor?
 
@Studentmath Some of the arguments you'll do are fun, I just think they get very repetitive and uninteresting after a while.
 
I'm ok with what you're thinking, @Studentmath. If you had $\text{diam}(\text{Cl }(A))-\text{diam}(A)>\epsilon$, there would have to be points in $\text{Cl }(A)$ at least $\epsilon/2$ away from $A$.
 
So Sarah has not come to chat for 2 weeks, lol. I think she won't ever come again, lol.
 
The real question is: has René returned to MSE or not?
 
11:05 PM
That's about what I was thinking @Ted, yes
 
He has, I already saw some garbage answers by him.
 
Yes he has @TedShifrin. We both answered the same question the other night.
 
@TedShifrin If he returns, how will you feel?
 
oh hell,@Kaj @Mike
 
Who's René? @JasperLoy no
 
11:06 PM
It was quite clear from one that he was looking it up on wikipedia before answering.
 
@Mike @Kaj, let me know if there's garbage I need to deal with and get him thrown out for the next escalation of homophobia/rudeness.
 
@Ted I'm sure you'll see him on your own tags soon enough.
 
I've never personally had any problems with him, but sure thing.
 
LOL, I hope he's smart enough to avoid me.
Well, @Kaj, you've had problems with me :D
 
LOL, and so by transitivity....
 
11:07 PM
I had no problems with anyone, except my enemy X.
 
I should probably take a shower. I need to go grab a bunch of beer for the VD party.
 
later pal
 
bubye @Mike ... yeah, nice question
 
@skullpatrol This is your nicest avatar so far.
 
Ping me if you answer it, @Ted
 
11:09 PM
@JasperLoy thanks pal :D
 
So many people having enemies in a heartless, non-opinion based, community
 
well, @UserX, I never set out to have enemies. But I got personally attacked for correcting someone's error-prone mathematics, so apparently I have an enemy.
 
There is a very, very big opinion war on this site. Mainly stemming from one question.
 
When I go out, those insurance and credit card companies staff keep approaching me to buy their products, lol. I tell them: I have no money, lol.
 
Then there's a separate issue on which many of us disagree: I do not want this to be a perfect-answer repository for all students.
 
11:10 PM
@MikeMiller this might sound stupid but, which question?
 
see what I just wrote, @UserX
 
@UserX "Should this site be used as a homework help site that answers every question that gets asked, or should question-askers show some modicum of effort and good faith in asking questions?"
 
applauds
 
@Ted @Mike what if all the answers are explained adequately and only include hints?
 
Perhaps my verbiage gives away my position.
 
11:11 PM
Mine too.
 
Most people give hints on MSE
 
I think we don't have to give complete answers, but at the same time, the hints should not be too obscure.
 
I wish most people used hints on MSE.
Rather frequently I see someone posting their calculus homework verbatim with no thoughts on it whatsoever and within seconds of me seeing the question, a full answer shows up.
 
One thing I dislike is the use of 'hint' in answers. There is no need to write 'hint'. Just write the hint.
 
@MikeMiller What is a "VD party"?
 
11:13 PM
no, @UserX, that's just not true. And I disagree, @Jasper. The word HINT is meant to signify that the answerer understands it's not a complete answer.
venereal disease or valentine's day, @skull
 
Veteran's day
 
icic
 
@MikeMiller gamification
 
well, dinnertime .. bubye
 
11:14 PM
It's a university holiday, so we're celebrating by getting drunk and eating hamburgers
 
LOL
 
I will never get myself drunk. I never have.
 
@Kaj: We would never have a holiday to honor veterans.
 
Also, I have never smoked, lol @UserX
 
@TedShifrin, our holiday was two Fridays ago it seems.
 
11:15 PM
I remember that when I was a kid, CA had both Lincoln's and Washington's birthdays as state holidays. Maybe they were both federal holidays in those days.
right, @Kaj: football Friday.
 
They actually closed ECV dining hall that weekend, but they are keeping it open for Thanksigiving break :/
 
Nobody is actually honoring veterans today, though... we're honoring the university holiday.
 
ridiculous, @Kaj ... although plenty of foreign students can't go anywhere.
well, @Mike, as anti-war as I am, I do honor veterans and their service.
 
:18570124: with regards to putting my question on MSE v. MO, I could definitely foresee putting an extension of that question on MO, depending on what i learn from the MSE responses
 
I've got the same position. I'm just clarifying what the beer and burgers are really for.
 
11:17 PM
That's certainly true. Kell's not happy though because it's causing him to miss a Judo tournament.
 
Don't you have WWII veterans coming and telling there stories?
 
oh, he has to stay here and work, @Kaj?
 
Indeed. They have him signed up for shifts over the break. I think he's trying to talk to them though?
 
@UserX: but given that galois theory is decidedly not in my background, it didn't seem sensible to dive into MO right off the bat
 
11:20 PM
@Semiclassical I'm not qualified to tell where that question belongs, it just struck me as MO material. Do what you think is best.
 
sure, just giving my reasoning
 
I hope I get a laptop in this Fri's lucky draw. I really miss Windows and Office. I have been using Linux and LibreOffice and they suck.
 
Now I have a dillema. Not eat, make toasts, make eggs or eat frozen food. What's my Nash equilibrium state here guys?
 
the kind of question i might ask on MO would be like: "Which degrees of rational polynomials have a dense subset of solvable polynomials?"
 
@UserX I think you should eat eggs and toast, QED.
 
11:21 PM
What's going on in the second line here? https://proofwiki.org/wiki/Order_of_Galois_Group_Equals_Degree_of_Extension

This seems to be implying that all separable extensions are also simple extensions?
 
...sort of tempted to ask that now, actually. hmmmmm
 
I can't have a strategy of not eating as that won't feed my hunger, so that's out. If I choose frozen food it's less work but less taste. If I chose that I would prefer to change my strategy. The other two are equivalent. I guess the Nash equilibrium is on eggs and toast.
 
I think that's probably easy to answer given some thinking, @Semiclassical.
I'd also bet it's all of them.
 
you may be right, which is why i'm hesitant to make it an MO question
that's actually the answer i'd like it to be, given the (sketchy) initial motivation i had
 
I generally wouldn't post something on MO unless you've independently thought about it for a couple days...
 
11:26 PM
Is it possible to reach a basic conversational level in a language in 3 months?
 
nod. the only question i've put on MO was this one, and I felt pretty comfortable with my choice to put it up there rather than MSE
 
@JasperLoy are you fleeing the country?
 
@UserX Not now. But I am hoping to learn 4 languages some day.
 
I agree with that choice @UserX particularly because of the literature search at the end.
I've only posted two questions; I can't say how good of an idea either was, but they were both well received.
 
a more MO-type variation might be: what results are known for the distribution of galois groups for various degrees of rational polynomials
 
11:29 PM
Yo!
 
I just think a decent literature search should answer these questions.
 
What is the definition of an ideal generated by a polynomial?
 
probably. i did see an MSE question which indicated that most polynomials give the symmetric group as the degree goes to infinity
which would seem to contradict the idea of the solvable polynomials being dense for arbitrary degree. hmmmm
 
That shouldn't contradict density in any way. The rationals are dense in the reals but are measure 0.
 
Oh I found my answer.
 
11:36 PM
This conversation got me thinking; @TedShifrin why aren't you active on MO?
 
Huh. if $l_\infty$ is the infinite bounded series of real numbers with the supremem metric, and $A$ is the subset of such series, so that they turn to $0$'s after some $n$ elements. Shouldn't $IntA=\emptyset$? Any positive radius $r$ I take from any $x_i$ will include some infinie bounded series that don't turn to $0$'s after some $n$ elements, but instead could be all $r$'s..
 
Yes.
 
11:55 PM
I would say the same about $ExtA$, but I think I'd be wrong then.
Can't see why though. Can always have something at distance $r$ that ends - ahhh.. maybe.
Got it :)
 
I don't know what Ext means here.
 
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