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11:00 PM
@OldJohn Like me! The GNOME document viewer Evince can view DVI, PS, and PDF!
 
@WillHunting so ... we are both abnormal :)
 
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@OldJohn Yes, I think most people in this chat are. =)
 
yes
 
Oui
 
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Si.
 
11:02 PM
ja
Sim
 
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I can probably make it to 8k this year, and with some luck, 9k, and with much luck, 10k...
 
Is it possible to write the solution of $x(t)=A(t)x(t)$ as $x(t)=X(t,t_0)x_0+\int_{t_0}^{t}X(t,s)A(s)ds$ where "X(t,t_0)" is the principal matrix solution ?
 
@WillHunting ...and retire, right?
 
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@Argon Hmm, yes.
 
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Hey @amwhy I see you have edited that post 9 times already!!!
 
11:07 PM
@WillHunting Stupid little details! (I'm a perfectionist!) That particular OP, I think, doesn't like me...a while back, given a comment I made. Oh well, I won't waste more time on him/her!
 
user19161
@amWhy Wise! I have blacklisted some askers as well. =) Have you eaten dinner?
 
@WillHunting hehehe...I've started do nibble (I nibble, rarely feast!) How about you?
 
user19161
@amWhy Well, I just had some breakfast! It is 7 am here...
 
@WillHunting Where are you?
 
user19161
@amWhy I am in Singapore.
 
11:10 PM
@WillHunting Really! Wow...good morning to you, then!
@WillHunting I'm at 5:10 p.m.!
 
user19161
@amWhy We are 14 hours apart, so near yet so far. =)
 
@WillHunting hehehe...Yes indeed!
 
must get some sleep - maybe tomorrow I will have a kitchen again ...
 
user19161
@OldJohn Good night bro!
 
goodnight Will- and all
 
11:18 PM
@OldJohn Good night, John!
 
@Charlie Bye for now
 
@WillHunting Can I make a stupid question?
 
user19161
@Charlie Yes.
 
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Hey @limitless thanks for sharing your secrets with me in the email. =)
 
@WillHunting If a function $f$ is uniformly continuous in $[0,\infty)$ is it uniformly continuous in $[0,a)$ ?
 
11:22 PM
@WillHunting, you're welcome!
 
it is, isn't it?
 
:_:
I don't know what to study.
@WillHunting, should I attempt to kill some of my Calculus book?
 
user19161
@Charlie Yes, this can be easily verified from the definition.
 
@WillHunting Thanks.
 
user19161
@Limitless What book is that?
 
11:24 PM
@WillHunting, Calculus for Dummies ;)
 
user19161
@Limitless I don't like these Dummies books.
 
@WillHunting, why?]
I rather like them
 
user19161
@Limitless I forgot what they look like, just flipped through them long ago. But Schaum's outline series is good.
 
user19161
@amWhy I saw you in my dreams last night and I waved, and you waved back! =)
 
@WillHunting I don't like these Dummies' books either :)
 
user19161
11:26 PM
@OldJohn Did you just come from your dreams?
 
@WillHunting no just went to my upstairs computer which is still logged-in :)
 
@WillHunting Of course I did! I can't remember, did we have icecream too?
 
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@OldJohn HAHAHAHA.
 
and wondered if anyone would notice the subtle apostrophe in my last comment ...
 
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@amWhy Anyway, I think you really should eat more properly than just nibble on tidbits.
 
11:27 PM
@WillHunting, Schaum's Outline of Calculus gets hardcore.
Triple integrals toward the very end
 
Schaum's complex analysis is pretty good
 
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@Limitless I think for now you can just read Paul's notes.
 
@WillHunting Yes, I need to eat better (and a bit more, too)!
 
@WillHunting, for now I do. Off and on.
I think I am going to go get some studying done.
Ciao.
 
darn - nobody noticed the difference between "Dummies Books" and "Dummies' Books" :(
 
11:31 PM
Sup guys
 
Sups
 
@Link sup
 
Nothing much
can you help me with a physics problem?
 
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@OldJohn I did, but couldn't be bothered to check for the correct name.
 
@Link sure
 
11:33 PM
Maybes.
 
@WillHunting :)
Must sleep - g'night again
 
Night
 
Night
 
I have a ramp of angle $\theta$, the ramp is mostly frictionless, except for a small piece in the middle. A block $m$ is going up the ramp, when it hits the friction area, it has acceleration of $1.13g$ down the ramp. The block eventually stops and then goes down the ramp, when it hits the friction area it has accl of $0.27g$ up the ramp. What is $\theta$?
$g = 10N/kg$
Any ideas?
I drew a FBD, but stuck :C
 
I am using mint
 
11:37 PM
@Link I'm sorry, i did not understand, the block is going up, hit the friction pint and then goes down?
 
No
it goes up
past the friction bit
eventually stops
and goes back down
 
oh! got it
 
when going over the friction bit on the way up, accelration is downwards, when going down the ramp, accelration is upwards
okay
 
hmm....
thinking
wait..loading....
 
note that friction only depends on the normal force, friction coefficient, and direction. so the friction force on the way up is equal and opposite of the friction force on the way down. call this force $f$ ...
on the way up, the acceleration is $1.13 = g \sin(\theta) + f/m$ and on the way down the acceleration is $0.27 = g \sin(\theta) - f/m$. so add those two equations together, and you get $1.13 + 0.27 = 2 g \sin(\theta)$
 
11:46 PM
wait, can you explain that a bit more?
Especially the second part of both equations?
like the g sin(0) +- f/m?
 
@Link you understand why the force of friction is equal and opposite on the trip up vs down?
 
Yes, since it is opposite the relative motion
 
right. now on the way up, gravity has magnitude $g \sin(\theta)$ and is pulling it down the ramp. friction has magnitude $f/m$ and is also pulling it down the ramp. they're in the same direction, so we add
 
okay
but what is f/m?
m = mass
f is?
 
on the way down, gravity and friction have the same magnitude, and gravity is still pulling it down the ramp, but friction is pulling up the ramp so we subtract
 
11:50 PM
Okay, i get that, but what is F?
 
cool. so the point is that $f$ depends on $m$, which you don't know ... but it ends up canceling out, as you can see in the equations above
$f$ also depends on $\mu$, which you also don't know
$f$ denotes the force of friction, if that's what you're asking
 
oh
that makes sense then
but why are you dividing by m?
 
cool cool cool
 
i mean by m?
 
well, because $f$ is the force and $F = ma$, so the acceleration is $f/m$ ... you could just as well call $f$ the acceleration due to friction and not divide by $m$
 
11:55 PM
okay
so f is friction, and since f = ma, a = f/m?
but in the end it doesn't matter as it cancels out..
 
precisely!
 
awesome
thanks
 
no problem
 
I hate not being able to solve this on my own :C, i can draw diagrams and stuff, and now what to do, just can't get the equations down
Also, why do you set the equations equal to .27 and 1.13?
is it because that is the netforce at that time?
 
whoops, should have been $.27g$ and $1.13g$ ... just because we were calculating the acceleration of the block, and those were the accelerations given in the problem
 
11:59 PM
...
okay
oh
i get it now!
 

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