The Bridge

12:01 PM

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Q: Should we use only the best ten hundred words in our answers?

For the best learning of our friends in this place, should we attempt to write all or our answers in up goer five words? This would help people who do not have a lot of words that they know understand new words.

Yi Jiang's Evil Clone

@fredley Stop tempting me to go in and upvote this

fredley

@YiJiang'sEvilClone This site deserves to be trolled

Yi Jiang's Evil Clone

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Q: No do you get multiplayer on NFS most wanted?

I'm in the app version, and was wondering how I can play online with my friend (who also has the app version), does anyone know? If so, can you tell me how? With detailed steps please!

multiplayer online

Uh...

Lazers

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Q: No do you get multiplayer on NFS most wanted?

I'm in the app version, and was wondering how I can play online with my friend (who also has the app version), does anyone know? If so, can you tell me how? With detailed steps please!

multiplayer online

Yi Jiang's Evil Clone

Damn you @Lazers and your awkward timing

ell.stackexchange.com/search?q=closed%3A1

The list of closed questions makes for interesting reading

badp

12:22 PM

Welp, I wrote an angry MSO post and emailed it to myself

The real nail in the coffin will be seeing how ELL survives these first few days.

Yi Jiang's Evil Clone

Are you going to post it immediately or wait a month then angrily wave it in front of everyone's face yelling "I told you so!"?

badp

Wait a bit in order to get more data

Yi Jiang's Evil Clone

Hmmm... today's xkcd. From memory, tar -xfvz is valid, right? RIGHT?

x is extract, f is file mode, v is... uh... oh shi-

Ladineko

Yo.

Yi Jiang's Evil Clone

v should be verbose mode. I have no idea why I included it there. z is for the gzip format

OrigamiRobot

12:29 PM

Yo yo

Yi Jiang's Evil Clone

> If you're using GNU tar, the z/j flags are unnecessary; for quite some time, tar has autodetected that situation and added those flags.

Ladineko

Wow, there wasnt any League of Legends channel on this site?

Yi Jiang's Evil Clone

@Ladineko Channel?

Ladineko

Yeah a room.

like this room...
Oh well made one for the LoL fans :)
http://chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/7348/league-of-legends

badp

Hey.

Ladineko

12:32 PM

@badp Hello.

badp

Welcome to chat, and best of luck with your room

Just be aware that past efforts to the same effect have failed for lack of audience

chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/7082

Minecraft Talk

Everything Minecraft. Warning: Exposure may cause insanity and...

Ladineko

I couldnt find any :O

aah

badp

chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/6403

and more relevantly

Summoner's Rift

Because no one likes Twisted Treeline. Join our ingame chatroo...

Yi Jiang's Evil Clone

There's a box somewhere to check to show dead rooms

badp

@YiJiang'sEvilClone S/he might not have enough reputation.

Ladineko

12:36 PM

Oh well... at least i give them a change :)

I dont mind if it dies out.

Yi Jiang's Evil Clone

@badp You need reps to see dead rooms? Didn't know that

Ladineko

Was just wondering why there werent any.

badp

Well, now you know :)

Yi Jiang's Evil Clone

@Ladineko The thing is, this chatroom doesn't get enough traffic usually to warrent getting another separate room to talk about stuff

badp

If you want, @Ladineko, I can make things slightly easier for you and revive the already existing Summoner's Rift room.

Ladineko

12:37 PM

yeah but i would die out then like you said.

badp

Okey dokey

Personally my average LoL game is in the neighbourhood of 0/20/1 so I don't see myself being particularly active there :)

Ladineko

Hehe

Mine is 2/2/30 average

However im a support... im supposed to get assists :)

Yi Jiang's Evil Clone

Mommy, I want to be a Social Media Viral Cloud Synergy Analyst when I grow up too!

Ladineko

Damn thats a mouth full!

badp

Welp, here come the downvotes

StrixVaria

12:49 PM

@badp Why is that even a site?

Grace Note

@badp You called us programmers in the description of Gaming.

Ladineko

Im a programmer xD

and gamer

fredley

Today's xkcd is brilliant:

Yi Jiang's Evil Clone

26 mins ago, by Yi Jiang's Evil Clone

Hmmm... today's xkcd. From memory, tar -xfvz is valid, right? RIGHT?

fredley

> I don't know what's worse--the fact that after 15 years of using tar I still can't keep the flags straight, or that after 15 years of technological advancement I'm still mucking with tar flags that were 15 years old when I started.

StrixVaria

12:52 PM

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Yi Jiang's Evil Clone

@GraceNote We're not all programmers, but we are all pro-grammar.

Ladineko

@StrixVaria Hahahahahaha

fredley

@YiJiang'sEvilClone Would you trust yourself to disarm a nuclear device with that knowledge?

Yi Jiang's Evil Clone

@fredley Fine. tar --help.

Ladineko

You googled!

Grace Note

12:53 PM

When your options are "Disarm and save the day", "Fail and die an explodey death", and "Do nothing and die an explodey death", really the best course of action is to try.

Gaming Topics From Outside

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Q: Laptop Gaming Peformance Reduced

I have a laptop that used to be able to run Mirror's Edge on the highest quality setting. When I reinstalled Windows I downloaded all the drivers using "DriverMax" and installed Mirror's Edge again but now it only works on the lowest quality setting. Why is this?

laptop drivers gaming

Yi Jiang's Evil Clone

I didn't know --help was connected to Google

Ladineko

@YiJiang'sEvilClone Wrong, EVERYTHING is connected to Google.

fredley

@YiJiang'sEvilClone I'd go with tar --version

Ladineko

tar --blowup

fredley

12:56 PM

@Ladineko Is this actually a thing?

Ladineko

No, but i want that nuke to blow up...

fredley

@Ladineko Evil

OrigamiRobot

@StrixVaria That's sad. That means someone didn't get to watch a good movie. :(

Ladineko

@fredley Im a bitch i know... ツ

fredley

@Ladineko Note: unless you are doing this over ssh, you will also die

Grace Note

12:59 PM

@OrigamiRobot It's heartbreaking, isn't it?

OrigamiRobot

@GraceNote I guess my PSU is a comparable heart analogue.

fredley

@OrigamiRobot Surely your system clock?

Your PSU would be an analogue to my digestive tract.

Ladineko

@fredley Ill use a Gameboy to send it :)

fredley

@Ladineko wat

badp

@GraceNote Whoops.

Ladineko

1:01 PM

You don't know what that is? O_O

OrigamiRobot

Hydraulic analogy

The electronic–hydraulic analogy (derisively referred to as the drain-pipe theory by Oliver Heaviside) is the most widely used analogy for "electron fluid" in a metal conductor. Since electric current is invisible and the processes at play in electronics are often difficult to demonstrate, the various electronic components are represented by hydraulic equivalents. Electricity (as well as heat) was originally understood to be a kind of fluid, and the names of certain electric quantities (such as current) are derived from hydraulic equivalents. As all analogies, it demands an intu...

Yi Jiang's Evil Clone

I'm quite sure the Gameboy doesn't have the necessary hardware to make ssh connections

LessPop_MoreFizz

@StrixVaria You might want to read through the discussion about the proposal on A51. That question was hashed out pretty thoroughly.

badp

@YiJiang'sEvilClone I think "tar" by itself is also valid.

fredley

@OrigamiRobot Disagree.

Yi Jiang's Evil Clone

1:02 PM

@badp That would be the same as tar --help, right?

fredley

@badp tar: You must specify one of the '-Acdtrux' or '--test-label' options

badp

@fredley So sad. boom

OrigamiRobot

@fredley The human digestive tract has a beginning and an end. My power system does not.

fredley

@OrigamiRobot It feeds off power from the mains, sends it through some squiggly tubes and excretes...heat...

@OrigamiRobot The heart is merely a speed regulator for blood: system clock

OrigamiRobot

@fredley I don't get power from mains.

@fredley No, it is an oxygen distribution system.

Ladineko

1:04 PM

anyways im off... bye byes ツ

fredley

@OrigamiRobot You must get power from somewhere...

LessPop_MoreFizz

Hmm. That last should have been @badp. Oops.

badp

@LessPop_MoreFizz If ELU has questions they don't want, they should just keep closing them, not create their version of gamerec.se

fredley

@OrigamiRobot ...and regulation system, for blood, the transport medium for oxygen and other things

OrigamiRobot

@fredley Even if I did, that's still not a digestive tract. The digestive tract is not an analogue for any electrical system.

LessPop_MoreFizz

1:06 PM

@badp You should read the Area 51 discussions on the subject. It is not about being a dumping ground.

fredley

@OrigamiRobot Definitely is.

badp

The closest thing I see to an actual justification to the site is this:

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A: Why not combine "English Language Learners" with EL&U?

I'm an EFL (English as a foreign language) teacher, and I've noticed that there's a huge difference between the language interests and perspectives of native English speakers/highly fluent people and English learners. There are different views of what is "correct," different perspectives on what ...

It's unsubstantiated, vague and wave-handed

OrigamiRobot

@fredley Unless you eat your own poop, no.

Yi Jiang's Evil Clone

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A: Defining topicality

The issue of forming a site exclusively around "beginners questions" is one of reciprocity. Most sites at least perport to be experts talking to experts and answering each other questions. They, in turn, attract a fair number of enthusiasts and beginning learners asking interesting (albeit, begin...

Grace Note

@OrigamiRobot Poo goes into the earth -> grass eats poo -> cow eats grass -> dragon eats cow -> person eats dragon. End result, person eats poo.

OrigamiRobot

1:09 PM

@GraceNote That's a way better argument than @fredley's. My counter is that system is not fully within the human body.

Grace Note

@OrigamiRobot I do not deny this. I don't think an electrical system is comparable to a digestive track either.

OrigamiRobot

Maybe if I ran off gasoline or something. Then the system used to convert that to electricity could be comparable to a digestive tract.

badp

@LessPop_MoreFizz Retort: questions are supposed to fit on either site, but never both and there are already calls for mass migration

The current topic of the site is "English questions asked by people who aren't native speakers" and aren't too hard. Questions that are "too hard" are closed off-topic and re-asked on ELU and then they get an answer.

The proposal is championed by a moderator of ELU and the top committers are all very active on ELU; the comment by another ELU mod is "I'm still not sure that there should be two English sites, but I would rather ELL succeed than let the current state of affairs stand as they are."

How many more stinks do you need before you can feel the reek of a ghetto for "the rest of them"?

StrixVaria

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A: Should we use only the best ten hundred words in our answers?

True story: Twenty-one years ago my wife and our son were sitting in McDonald's, eating and chatting. A stranger at an adjacent table approached my wife and said "Excuse me, but may I ask how old your son is?" "Fifteen, no, sixteen months." "That's astonishing" he said. "I'm a speech pathologi...

That answer is hilarious.

Lazers

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Q: What units do defense buildings target first?

In trying to develop a good attack strategy, I need to know more about how the defense building AI works. As of this question there are seven different defensive buildings (cannon, archer tower, mortar, air defense, wizard tower, hidden tesla, crossbow). The game is pretty clear that some targe...

clash-of-clans

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Q: Do you get less rare items when killing monsters below your level?

I know that if you fight monsters below your level you will get less experience, but what's with the item quantity and rarity? If the amount of items, especially rare ones decrease when fighting monsters below your level, by how much does it decrease? I'd appreciate as much info as possible.

path-of-exile

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Q: Level up in Ultima 5: Lazarus

What do I need to do to level up in Ultima 5: Lazarus (not the original Ultima 5)? I have tried sleeping in beds and outdoor in a bedroll over 5 times but have not seen Lord British in a dream. I have over 1000 experience points but have not leveled up. Is there also a list of how many points ar...

ultima-5

badp

1:18 PM

@StrixVaria and completely irrelevant.

StrixVaria

@badp It's like he wanted to make a point using allegory but then forgot to make his point.

badp

sentence fragments 4lyf

At any rate for now I just want to limit my participation to that meta question

LessPop_MoreFizz

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Q: Reinstating the English Learners' Proposal

Proposal: English Language Learners Following the conclusion of the Definition phase, this proposal was recently closed in support of our English SE site. After a lot of discussion here and internally, we decided to re-open this proposal. There were a lot of intriguing arguments throughout. I ...

culture closed-proposals

That's the official answer as to why the proposal was reopened after that post closed it.

badp

heh

> The new site will need time establish an "expert community."

I literally see Robert doing finger quotes there

because, yo, the best way for non-native speakers to have their questions answered on why native speakers do things they way they do is to have expert non-native speakers answer.

Q: WHY SENTENCE FRAGMENTS BAD
A: Wait a second while I go ask on ELU for you and report back. Edit: OKAY BECAUSE SEGMENT FRAGMENTS CONFUSING

fredley

@badp wat

@OrigamiRobot I used digestive tract as it's the part of the body that deals with energy input and conversion.

LessPop_MoreFizz

1:32 PM

To be honest, I don't really care and have largely given up on the A51 process/new sites/ the network as a whole at this point. I'm happy with the answers I give and get at Arqade, but most of the stuff relating to languages has felt like a clusterfuck to date, tbqh, as have lots of other new sites.

badp

You don't care from the height of your natural language privilege don'tcha?!??!?!!

fredley

@LessPop_MoreFizz There have been a lot of good new sites while I've been on the network, some of which have graduated (travel, skeptics). I think the bar is set far too low though for getting a beta.

LessPop_MoreFizz

@fredley Travel and Skeptics were a long time ago. I'm speaking from a narrower definition of 'new'. See: Anime.se.

fredley

> I find it difficult to understand why we expend so much effort and discussion on tags.

Grace Note

For a guy named "Commodore Cannonhand", the giant-laser-cannon-for-a-hand is somehow the least threatening and least dangerous weapon in his arsenal.

fredley

1:35 PM

@LessPop_MoreFizz Not familiar with it, but I don't see why it isn't a tag in SF&F

Lots of A51 proposals should just be tags on other sites.

LessPop_MoreFizz

Makes SFF look like a fucking academic conference.

badp

Relevant:

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Retro-Gaming and Modding

Proposed Q&A site for anyone who has a question regarding older video games or systems no longer being manufactured. Similar to Gaming.SE except, with an expanded list of questions, including questions about hardware repair, finding old games and coding for old hardware.

Currently in definition.

LessPop_MoreFizz

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Q: What is the status of list questions on this site?

In the first brainstorming session, we've discussed the status of "list" questions on Anime and Manga. What are list questions? Any question which asks for a list of items as the answer. Some examples: Is there a definitive list of Zombie Anime out there or in the making? What Bankais exist w...

discussion questions chat-sessions list-questions

Yi Jiang's Evil Clone

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The new SimCity is, if nothing else, very pretty

fredley

@YiJiang'sEvilClone Procedurally generated buildings? Can't see any two identical.

Yi Jiang's Evil Clone

1:41 PM

Don't think so. Probably just like in SC4 - the same building, but with some props randomly generated

LessPop_MoreFizz

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:( RIP Ed Koch. :(

Yi Jiang's Evil Clone

You know, SimCity Societies had great design - both in terms of sound and art

fbueckert

Wee! It is -31 right now, with windchill up to -39.

Yi Jiang's Evil Clone

You're almost 60 degrees colder than where I am

Again, every single bit of (released) SimCity music, ever: community.simtropolis.com/topic/…

OrigamiRobot

@fredley As I said, that is more like a system which converts fuel into usable energy, not the electrical system itself.

fredley

1:56 PM

@OrigamiRobot But from a biological perspective all matter is fuel, it just might need to by converted into a more usable format. Transforming horse protein into human protein is the same as converting 240vAC to 12vDC.

OrigamiRobot

@fredley Not at all. That is more like converting gasoline to electricity.

fredley

@OrigamiRobot No, it's just converting between different types of protein. Gas to electricity would be more like farming > turning nutrients in soil into protein.

Grace Note

We get energy from food, but most of our stuff is actually powered through cellular respiration.

Which, in itself, is propogated through the circulatory system.

OrigamiRobot

@fredley Different types of protein are worlds away from AC vs DC.

Where is @badp? Can we close this as Confuses badp?

Grace Note

Thanks to those slavedriving HEMOGOBLINS

fredley

1:59 PM

@GraceNote Hemogoblins == electrons

Grace Note

Electrons don't use whips.

OrigamiRobot

@fredley Just to be a team player, what you should be doing is noting all the times I have said I don't run on electricity. I process @Wipqozn's tears. That is like a digestive tract.

fredley

@GraceNote I don't want to know about the relationship between you and your circulatory system.

@OrigamiRobot Like, with a watermill or with a fuel-cell?

Ben Brocka

@badp I think the logic was more "Oh my god make the ESL questions stop whyyyyyyyyyyyyy" but there was a big enough community that still wanted those "How do I shot web?" questions

OrigamiRobot

@fredley I will not divulge the inner mechanisms I use to harness the power of turtle tears.

Grace Note

2:04 PM

@fredley Too bad! You get lecture time!

fredley

@GraceNote :(

Grace Note

Once upon a time, there was a person. That person was me.

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Tim Stone

What a twist! :O

Grace Note

I became extremely popular in my biology classes because on tests, instead of describing processes like a normal person or a scientist, I wrote ridiculous short stories. So for example, instead of explaining the normal hemoglobin process for the circulatory system, I described the woes of poor slave oxygen that was forced to work in the capillary mines as Hemogoblins drove them about on their sorta-donut-shaped boats. Except for the guys who had sickle-shaped boats, they lose a lot of slaves.

OrigamiRobot

Before there stood gods upon Olympus, or ever Allah was Allah, had wrought and rested @GraceNote.

Ben Brocka

2:07 PM

@GraceNote I saw a stream with Compa last night! Her english VA was on a donation drive stream for Skullgirls (she's Cerebella in SG)

Grace Note

@BenBrocka Aye, she is.

fredley

@GraceNote When faced with the inner workings of the human body, you fantasise about slave colonies?

OrigamiRobot

In the mists before the Beginning, Fate and Chance cast lots to decide whose the Game should be; and he that won strode through the mists to @GraceNote and said: "Now make mods for Me, for I have won the cast and the Game is to be Mine."

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Grace Note

@fredley Well, there was the tale of the brave sheriff RNA and his taming of the proteins.

fredley

@GraceNote I'd like to read what you wrote about the relationship between DNA and RNA.

Grace Note

2:10 PM

Unfortunately I've kinda forgotten a bit about the cell process so I don't remember what brave sheriff RNA's steed was...

OrigamiRobot

When @GraceNote had made the gods and @badp, @badp made a drum, and began to beat upon it that he might drum for ever. Then because he was weary after the making of the gods, and because of the drumming of @badp, did @GraceNote grow drowsy and fall asleep.

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