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Tim Stone
Tim Stone
3:00 PM
Ahh the StackApps 404 page still cracks me up.
 
Mana
Mana
@TimStone wow.
 
fredley
fredley
@TimStone Given the chance, I would flag that 404 page
 
OrigamiRobot
OrigamiRobot
@TimStone He is holding a Webley-Fosbery Automatic Revolver swoon
 
kalina
kalina
I was not expecting to rep cap today
what is wrong with Steam questions
 
LessPop_MoreFizz
LessPop_MoreFizz
@fredley Why? It's just Zardoz.
 
kalina
kalina
3:01 PM
anything tagged steam generates loads of rep in comparison to other stuff
 
badp
badp
@fredley agreed, a PISTOL?
 
Yi Jiang's Evil Clone
Yi Jiang's Evil Clone
 
Ben Brocka
Ben Brocka
After 3 years of calling my cell phone my dentist decided to call my parents' phone number instead to remind me of an appointment I otherwise totally forgot about
 
badp
badp
CLEARLY THIS IS POLITICALLY CHARGED PRO GUN PROPAGANDA
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OrigamiRobot
OrigamiRobot
@badp A sexy pistol.
One of the only semi-automatic revolvers. Only 5000 made.
 
badp
badp
3:04 PM
What did semi automatic mean anyway?
 
OrigamiRobot
OrigamiRobot
@badp It cocks itself after each shot.
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badp
badp
I guess automatic guns keep shooting if you hold down m1 errr the trigger
 
OrigamiRobot
OrigamiRobot
Yes.
 
fredley
fredley
@LessPop_MoreFizz I object to images of people wearing 'pouches'.
 
badp
badp
@ori oh so like every movie gun ever. Click click click click
 
OrigamiRobot
OrigamiRobot
3:06 PM
@badp Yes, but this is a revolver.
 
Ben Brocka
Ben Brocka
@badp Semi-autos can be fired by simply pressing the trigger (sometimes after cocking the hammer the first time only) by using the recoil from the gun to cock, and in the case of a revolver, to spin the cylinder
 
badp
badp
oic
basically semi autos are jackobs
 
Yi Jiang's Evil Clone
Yi Jiang's Evil Clone
Out of the set of 6 books I've borrowed, I've already finished Ready Player One and The Temporal Void. In case anyone cares.
 
Ben Brocka
Ben Brocka
Notice how with Jakob's pistols your character spams their hand on the top of the gun? They're re-cocking it to fire faster
 
badp
badp
I hate jackobs
oh.
 
OrigamiRobot
OrigamiRobot
3:07 PM
AFAIK, there is only one other semi-automatic revolver.
 
Ben Brocka
Ben Brocka
Actually jacobs ironically aren't
But I'm not aware of any video game in ever that requires to manually cock a gun
Dahl's pistols are semi-auto though and they don't have a hammer to cock
 
LessPop_MoreFizz
LessPop_MoreFizz
@BenBrocka There are plenty that include that as part of a long firing animation though.
 
SaintWacko
SaintWacko
This is really making me want to play EVE again
 
Ben Brocka
Ben Brocka
@OrigamiRobot wiki lists 3...and apparently some full autos en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automatic_revolver
 
SaintWacko
SaintWacko
I think I'm going to start after I finish with Path of Exile
...if that ever happens
I already have a pretty powerful account, but I think I'll move from highsec to a wormhole exploration corp
 
Ben Brocka
Ben Brocka
3:11 PM
@LessPop_MoreFizz Yeah. Borderlands actually has your character holding their gun with two hands to quickly operate the hammer (probably because you can fire those pistols so fast a single-handed animation would look ridiculous)
 
OrigamiRobot
OrigamiRobot
@badp Most revolvers are Double Action. When you pull the trigger, it also cocks the hammer. So while you still get a bullet fired for each trigger pull, it is still not technically semi-auto.
@BenBrocka Ah, I didn't know about the Union Automatic.
 
Ben Brocka
Ben Brocka
@OrigamiRobot oh, do semi-auto revolvers not need the first cock either? I'm only familiar with single/double actions
> The Dual Cycle Rifle used a unique gas operation with a Webley-Fosbery type grooved cylinder enabling 3-round burst capabilities of firing 4,900RPM
Maybe that's where Jakob's got their idea for those weird-ass burst-fire spiniguns
 
OrigamiRobot
OrigamiRobot
@BenBrocka Well, any semi-auto needs the first.
 
Ben Brocka
Ben Brocka
@OrigamiRobot > The Union Automatic Revolver of French origin. An unpopular and unsuccessful weapon, with only around 65 examples made.
I wouldn't be surprised
 
OrigamiRobot
OrigamiRobot
I want a Webley-Fosbery, but I doubt I'll ever get one. They're too expensive and hard to find.
I do have a normal Webley. It's the Singaporean police force model so it's one fo the few revolvers to actually have a safety.
 
Ben Brocka
Ben Brocka
3:20 PM
@OrigamiRobot not sure what the difference is then, both semi-auto and double action revolvers cock and revolve the cylinder on each trigger pull right?
 
fbueckert
fbueckert
Only in the Bridge do we discuss the relative accuracy of gun mechanics in video games.
 
OrigamiRobot
OrigamiRobot
@BenBrocka A double action cocks and revolves using the trigger. A semi auto uses the recoil. Look up a video of the Webley-Fosbery and you'll see what I mean.
@fbueckert Well, not only in the bridge.
 
LessPop_MoreFizz
LessPop_MoreFizz
I did not realize @OrigamiRob was a gun nerd.
 
Ben Brocka
Ben Brocka
@OrigamiRobot Oh, I get it then. So the semi-autos have a much lighter trigger?
 
OrigamiRobot
OrigamiRobot
@LessPop_MoreFizz I am. I mostly just like the old stuff though. I don't need no tacticool AR-15.
@BenBrocka That's the idea, yea. They never caught on because self loading pistols were starting to come out around the same time.
 
Ben Brocka
Ben Brocka
3:25 PM
@badp with a jakobs revolver your character is basically doing this (except much much less accurately):
 
OrigamiRobot
OrigamiRobot
@BenBrocka Is this that guy who can fan crazy fast?
 
Ben Brocka
Ben Brocka
(watch his hands and don't blink)
@OrigamiRobot yes
 
OrigamiRobot
OrigamiRobot
I saw a video recently where a kid outshot a Mac-10 (Automatic) with a lever action.
 
Ben Brocka
Ben Brocka
While aiming amazingly fast too
 
OrigamiRobot
OrigamiRobot
I can't see youtube at work.
 
Ben Brocka
Ben Brocka
3:31 PM
Huh. Also how the hell do you have a video like that and only show one close up of one shot of him actually operating the lever
@OrigamiRobot It's just the video you were talking about
 
OrigamiRobot
OrigamiRobot
I assumed.
 
Ben Brocka
Ben Brocka
The first is a gun hitting 5 targets in .88 seconds fanning a single action
 
OrigamiRobot
OrigamiRobot
@BenBrocka I know! I don't understand how he is shooting that accurately like that. It's really impressive.
@BenBrocka I like lever actions and revolvers. Since someone thought it's be a great idea to combine the two, I naturally want it.
 
Lazers
Lazers
1
Q: Do you need farms in your city or region?

HendrikI would like to hear what other people's opinions are on the usefulness of farms in a city or region. I have built them and they take up a lot of space, but I am not sure what the contribution is to create a successful city. I usually skip them altogether, and things seem to go fine.

simcity-4
0
Q: What factors are taken into consideration for 'Security Status'?

kalinaI've done a lot of missions and I have noticed that you get a tiny tiny increase to your 'security status' for each mission that you do. This goes up quite slowly though, and I'm wondering what other activities I can complete that will speed up the increase of this value? In addition, are ther...

eve-online
 
Ben Brocka
Ben Brocka
@OrigamiRobot When a rifle and a revolver love each other very much...
 
Wipqozn
Wipqozn
3:36 PM
Good Evening wonderful people
 
OrigamiRobot
OrigamiRobot
@BenBrocka Also, it can shoot shotgun shells. It's a huge mishmash.
 
fbueckert
fbueckert
@Wipqozn Damn, is it evening already?
 
Ben Brocka
Ben Brocka
Actually I really liked those in BL1 for that reason. Only Jakobs has cylinder snipers in BL2 though :(
 
OrigamiRobot
OrigamiRobot
@BenBrocka I know. If Rossi came out with a revolving carbine in .38/.357, I'd probably get one.
 
Ben Brocka
Ben Brocka
I also really liked seeing the different cylinders in BL1. A 2/3 shot revolver actually had a 2/3 chamber cylinder and that was really cool. My fav revolver was a 2 shot (which, thanks to weirdness, I could reload faster thanI could shoot)
Only in a video game would it be faster to shoot, reload, shoot, reload than it is to fire shots in succession
 
OrigamiRobot
OrigamiRobot
3:38 PM
@BenBrocka I liked the pistols that had revolving barrels.
 
Ben Brocka
Ben Brocka
Did they have those in BL1? I thought they were all mag based semi/full autos
Or do you mean the actual revolvers?
 
OrigamiRobot
OrigamiRobot
Oh, I was referring to BL2.
 
Wipqozn
Wipqozn
@fbueckert It's evening somewhere.
 
Ben Brocka
Ben Brocka
Oh. They're not as cool in BL2, though Maliwan and Jakobs still make proper revolvers. But in BL1 the mag size used to correspond to a cylinder with a matching number of chambers
 
badp
badp
oh hussie
 
Ben Brocka
Ben Brocka
3:43 PM
It's cool that you can still see the cylinder operate though (at least on Maliwan, it's hard to see on Jakob's)
 
OrigamiRobot
OrigamiRobot
@badp Does hussie mean something different to you than it does to me?
 
badp
badp
@OrigamiRobot it's the surname of the author of this very silly thing
 
OrigamiRobot
OrigamiRobot
Ah, even funnier.
 
agent86
agent86
@AshleyNunn and/or @Wipqozn AVENGE ME
also <3 lizard
 
fbueckert
fbueckert
@agent86 You have way too much time on your hands.
 
OrigamiRobot
OrigamiRobot
3:54 PM
@fbueckert Well, he only has one job and he lets badp do all that.
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Ben Brocka
Ben Brocka
"am I top or bottom?" I whispered as we started a two-player game of Mario Kart
Tweeted by Jxune on January 28, 2013 at 3:50 PM
@agent86 lizards, for all of your exfoliating needs
 
fredley
fredley
I hate it when you start working with something new, run into a problem within 5 minutes, and can't find an answer on SO.
You know that someone as asked the question, and it's probably highly rated, but you're too thick to even work out what you should be searching for in the first place.
 
fbueckert
fbueckert
@fredley Half the work is figuring out what to punch into Google to get the results you need.
 
fredley
fredley
@fbueckert I know.
 
OrigamiRobot
OrigamiRobot
@fredley Welcome to my life.
 
Wipqozn
Wipqozn
4:03 PM
@agent86 Spoilers:I was the one in the paper bag.
 
OrigamiRobot
OrigamiRobot
I know what I want, I just don't know how to say what I want.
 
Wipqozn
Wipqozn
Take that nemesis.
 
fbueckert
fbueckert
@fredley I've spent solid days going back and forth, punching terms into Google, not getting what I want, poking at my code some more, trying another Google search with different terms, bashing the code some more, and then eventually hitting on the correct terminology, and finding out my answer is fairly simple.
 
fredley
fredley
@OrigamiRobot Also I blame Apple for making all their stuff so ridiculously impenetrable for developers, and making their documentation very difficult to search.
 
OrigamiRobot
OrigamiRobot
I blame Apple for everything.
 
agent86
agent86
4:04 PM
@fbueckert rss reader set to ICHC FTW :P
@Wipqozn this sounds like something you'd do. hide in a paper bag and scare a defenseless cat...
 
OrigamiRobot
OrigamiRobot
@Wipqozn I thought @spugsley was your nemesis.
 
Wipqozn
Wipqozn
@OrigamiRobot She's not worthy to be my nemesis.
 
OrigamiRobot
OrigamiRobot
@Wipqozn I'm telling.
 
agent86
agent86
@Wipqozn wait, I don't know if it's insulting or a great honor to be worthy of being your nemesis now.
 
fbueckert
fbueckert
Sidenote: We're no longer in a deep freeze. It's currently -16, which feels pretty darn warm.
 
StrixVaria
StrixVaria
4:06 PM
@fbueckert It's kind of flurrying here and I'm worried about my 1 mile commute home.
 
Ben Brocka
Ben Brocka
It's 40 degrees today here! And foggy as hell
 
Wipqozn
Wipqozn
@agent86 Honour.
Also, spelling honour without a U? Bah! Exactly the kind of thing I'd expect from my nemesis!
 
Ben Brocka
Ben Brocka
 
OrigamiRobot
OrigamiRobot
45F here.
 
Ben Brocka
Ben Brocka
How pretty much every patent lawsuit defense starts
 
fbueckert
fbueckert
4:08 PM
@StrixVaria You should've seen our streets this last week; it snowed all week, and the plows couldn't keep up. So ice and snow were the name of the game. MUCH sliding ensued.
 
Lazers
Lazers
0
Q: Cruiser getting swarmed

QwerkyI just moved from a Caldari Cormorant (destroyer) to a Moa (cruiser) and started some level 2 security missions. My preferred play style has been keep my distance and pick enemies off with my railguns, I have fitted my Moa with 250mm railguns. This worked well in the Cormorant, but the Moa is slo...

eve-online
0
Q: What is the ZAP range of an Ingress Portal

IsotoppWhen you attack or hack an enemy portal in Ingress, the portal will ZAP you for XM damage. The amount of damage is dependent on the level of the portal, not the level of the resonators in there, and is documented. I have been unable to find more information about portal ZAP range, or other attac...

ingress
 
agent86
agent86
the bridge needs one of those ^
 
fbueckert
fbueckert
@agent86 It would have to get replaced like every five minutes.
 
Ben Brocka
Ben Brocka
My desire to break such a case is tempered by the fact that by weight it would release much more broken glass than confetti
 
SaintWacko
SaintWacko
@fbueckert hEHE
 
agent86
agent86
4:11 PM
@fbueckert This is why we can't have nice things.
 
SaintWacko
SaintWacko
@agent86 Also, you're behind me on Cheezburger :P
I read all these last night!
Except the lizard/cat one, I must not read whichever site that's from
 
agent86
agent86
@SaintWacko I cheezburg at work, mostly. so over the weekend and in the evenings I tend to slow...
 
fbueckert
fbueckert
@agent86 No, we can't have nice things because we all freak out about nice things. It makes us go, "We don't get nice things! What's the catch?"
 
agent86
agent86
@fbueckert no, we don't have nice things because people insist on destroying them constantly!
 
SaintWacko
SaintWacko
@agent86 I like the verbification of cheezburger :D
I usually cheezburg on my phone before bed
 
badp
badp
4:14 PM
dawn is coming on my computer
this is scary
 
fbueckert
fbueckert
@agent86 It tells me to break it in case of fabulous! I'm fabulous all the time! You're telling me that doing what it tells me to is a bad thing?
 
badp
badp
@ashleynunn WHAT HAVE YOU DONE
 
StrixVaria
StrixVaria
@fbueckert I don't do well driving on snow.
 
fbueckert
fbueckert
@StrixVaria To be fair, most people don't; they're not used to the fact that sometimes, there's not enough friction to maintain vehicle control.
 
SaintWacko
SaintWacko
@badp That sounds cool
@fbueckert People in my area aren't used to snow, and get very stupid when driving in the snow
 
fbueckert
fbueckert
4:16 PM
Even here, after giant snowfalls, people drive without taking conditions into account, so they slide into stuff.
 
badp
badp
@SaintWacko The effect is kinda... strong in full night mode, so while I'm giving it a try I don't know how long I'll last
 
fbueckert
fbueckert
Or into ditches.
 
badp
badp
It's only like 3% effective right now and things already look pretty orange
 
SaintWacko
SaintWacko
@fbueckert Yeah, I see a lot of that here. My parents are from up north, though, so I actually now how to drive in snow
 
fbueckert
fbueckert
@SaintWacko Growing up, I used to find empty parking lots, and did donuts. Teaches you lots about how to regain control.
And if you're driving beaters, hitting the ditch tends to be not so much of a problem.
 
Ben Brocka
Ben Brocka
4:27 PM
@badp does that change the whole screen's tone or just the OS's UI or what?
 
badp
badp
@BenBrocka the whole screen; I think Mark of the Ninja is also being affected
yep, definitely affects Mark of the Ninja. There's a preview option that lets you see how things change
 
Ben Brocka
Ben Brocka
@badp that sounds horrific
 
badp
badp
@BenBrocka eh. It's not at full dampening yet but the changing is very gradual
 
Ben Brocka
Ben Brocka
Changing the colors like that would still drive me crazy
 
badp
badp
If you're at your computer thorough you can kinda notice the luminosity ticks
The real problem is... I can't screenshot the effect. Obviously
 
fredley
fredley
4:31 PM
Great UI design there Apple
Really showing off your prowess
 
badp
badp
So I can't put my current situation in picture without doing awkward stuff such as taking a photo of my screen
 
Yi Jiang's Evil Clone
Yi Jiang's Evil Clone
I don't think flux is useful for helping you sleep. Merely looking at a backlit screen is sufficient to break the circadian cycle I think
 
Ben Brocka
Ben Brocka
@fredley So it CAN get worse than trying to design an Android UI in Eclipse!
 
badp
badp
@YiJiang'sEvilClone The real issue is that I don't have it on my Nexus 7, which is the last screen I do stare at in the day
 
Yi Jiang's Evil Clone
Yi Jiang's Evil Clone
@Lazers Typing out this answer on a tablet was quite painful
 
fredley
fredley
4:32 PM
@BenBrocka Yes. None of these panes can snap out of this window.
 
badp
badp
@YiJiang'sEvilClone Which tablet?
 
Ben Brocka
Ben Brocka
@fredley Ouch!
 
badp
badp
Yeah, you even used links and stuff
 
fredley
fredley
@BenBrocka You have to constantly show/hide these stupid panes.
 
badp
badp
@fredley Honestly iTunes was already proof enough of how Mac isn't quite godlike when it comes to usability
 
Yi Jiang's Evil Clone
Yi Jiang's Evil Clone
4:34 PM
@badp 10 inch running CM 10 (Android 4.1) using SwiftKey
 
badp
badp
@YiJiang'sEvilClone How's swiftkey compared to the stock swype stuff?
 
fredley
fredley
@badp Apple is at war with people with >1 monitor, so it's not like you can even put things on a different screen
It's just idiotic
 
badp
badp
@fredley really?
 
fredley
fredley
@badp Yup. Fullscreening any OSX app blanks out all other monitors.
 
badp
badp
@fredley ewrgh, and then people complain about Metro :P
 
fredley
fredley
4:35 PM
I mean, it does give you a lovely dark grey linen texture, but seriously wtf
 
Ben Brocka
Ben Brocka
How would you even use two monitors with an iMac? Wouldn't you have to buy two full computers or settle for two different monitor types?
 
agent86
agent86
windows 7 4evah
5
 
fbueckert
fbueckert
@agent86 None of that stupid Metro crap for me!
 
badp
badp
@fredley and if you use Mac's idea of "maximizing" what do you get?
 
Yi Jiang's Evil Clone
Yi Jiang's Evil Clone
@badp Swype is hard to use on a tablet because the distances are too big. SwiftKey offers a Windows 8 style split thumb keyboard which works pretty well
 
Ben Brocka
Ben Brocka
4:36 PM
@badp I think Swiftkey is testing out a gesture drawing one too. But I'm still with Swype
 
fredley
fredley
@badp Nice animations (which take about a second, non-configurable)
 
agent86
agent86
they should just call windows 8 "vista version 2.0"
 
badp
badp
@fredley but how much of your screen does it take?
 
fredley
fredley
@badp Oh, 100%
It will hide the menu bar
 
badp
badp
@fredley Does it still clear out your screens?
 
fredley
fredley
4:37 PM
@badp Yes
 
Yi Jiang's Evil Clone
Yi Jiang's Evil Clone
The only complaints is the lack of customization. I'd prefer some of the keys position to be different from the default
 
fredley
fredley
@badp It's either windowed, and you can use multiple screens, or one screen only.
 
badp
badp
@fredley wait, I'm talking about the... uh... green button I think
 
agent86
agent86
it's like on even versions they say "let's do something weird and stupid" and then in the odd version they go "okay okay, let's just make a usable operating system that people will actually want to use"
 
badp
badp
Neither close or minimize but "automatic size" or whatever Apple calls it
 
fredley
fredley
4:37 PM
@badp Oh, that gives you 100% of the desktop area, plus you have all the UI cruft at the top of the window, so it's 100% - an inch or so at the top
 
badp
badp
@agent86 That is an ignorant opinion. Windows 7 is Windows Vista with a little extra makeup and a few years of everybody getting used to the new course. Even the version number is the same
 
fredley
fredley
Oh shit now I've pressed something and it's reading a help file aloud to me, and I can't turn it off.
I closed the window, assuming that would stop it reading, but it didn't
 
Yi Jiang's Evil Clone
Yi Jiang's Evil Clone
Oh, and the fact that it doesn't play nice with Markdown. Can't seem to insert two spaces without the autocomplete insert something
 
badp
badp
@YiJiang'sEvilClone double space for period is a standard thing, yeah
 
Yi Jiang's Evil Clone
Yi Jiang's Evil Clone
... And as if right on cue, SwiftKey notified me that it has just saved me 10000 keystrokes
 
fredley
fredley
4:40 PM
@YiJiang'sEvilClone <3 Swiftkey
 
badp
badp
@YiJiang'sEvilClone It's a paid app, right? It's got to remind you you're getting your money's worth :P
 
fbueckert
fbueckert
Sidenote:
@fbueckert - it's the only question about the classic one, tagged as such, and the new one is only named "SimCity", so I thought about preparing the tag for this reason. I also thought about it while asking a question about the new one, then got remembered it would get closed, being about an unreleased game. — Gnoupi 4 mins ago
New SimCity has same name as original.
How do we handle tagging? Discuss.
 
badp
badp
@fbueckert Nothing new
Simcity-1989 or something and Simcity-2013
 
Yi Jiang's Evil Clone
Yi Jiang's Evil Clone
@badp Heh, it's the only time it created a notification for me. I bought it on sale for less than a dollar I think
 
badp
badp
does it actually cost more than that? I think it was around that much
oh, €4
yeah, no.
 
kalina
kalina
4:42 PM
@fbueckert no it doesn't
the original simcity is known as simcity classic
 
Ben Brocka
Ben Brocka
I think I got it in Android's 10c apps event last year
 
Yi Jiang's Evil Clone
Yi Jiang's Evil Clone
@fbueckert I suggested SimCity classic for the original a few months back, but IIRC the consensus back then was to create SimCity 2013 instead of renaming the original
 
fbueckert
fbueckert
@kalina Since...when?
 
kalina
kalina
@fbueckert since EA bought Maxis
 
Ben Brocka
Ben Brocka
 
fbueckert
fbueckert
4:43 PM
@BenBrocka I approve of these tags.
 
kalina
kalina
the new SimCity is probably the game of the year, treat it with such respect!
 
fbueckert
fbueckert
@kalina Maybe in reference, but I don't think they renamed the original game.
 
agent86
agent86
@badp I never know how to respond to someone calling me ignorant. so I guess I won't :)
 
kalina
kalina
@fbueckert irrelevant for tagging purposes
@fbueckert google "simcity classic"
 
fbueckert
fbueckert
@kalina VERY relevant. Game name = Simcity. Done.
 
kalina
kalina
4:44 PM
 
badp
badp
@agent86 Try using snark :P
 
kalina
kalina
stop trying to argue with me
 
Ben Brocka
Ben Brocka
> SimCity Classic is an online browser-based version of the first SimCity.[35] It was established in 2008 by Maxis.
 
fbueckert
fbueckert
@BenBrocka So it's not even the same game, then.
 
kalina
kalina
it is the same game, ported to be played in a browser -.-
 
agent86
agent86
4:45 PM
@badp you must be badp 1.0. I'll wait for the next version with a bit more polish.
 
Yi Jiang's Evil Clone
Yi Jiang's Evil Clone
@fbueckert It's a Flash port of the original
I played it for a while before. Seemed authentic enough
 
kalina
kalina
next you're going to say angry-birds should be angry-birds-android and angry-birds-ios
that is the current logic of your argument
 
fbueckert
fbueckert
@YiJiang'sEvilClone Yeah, but Simcity is the original SNES/PC version.
Simcity classic is the online browser version.
 
kalina
kalina
@fbueckert predates both of those
 
badp
badp
@agent86 Actually that was with the old numbering version scheme. Now they're bumping it up semirandomly and I'm badp 5492-1.m
Don't ask me what that means
 
kalina
kalina
4:46 PM
@fbueckert snes is a 90s console, original was an 80s game
 
fbueckert
fbueckert
@kalina See? Simcity = really old game.
 
agent86
agent86
@badp needs more service packs, clearly.
 
fbueckert
fbueckert
Simcity classic only became a thing five years ago.
 
kalina
kalina
@fbueckert the original is known as simcity classic now
 
fbueckert
fbueckert
@kalina I don't see them being able to change the name on the game itself.
Especially not the SNES versions.
 
Yi Jiang's Evil Clone
Yi Jiang's Evil Clone
4:48 PM
I think pragmatically the old game should be re tagged and let the new game use the SimCity tag
 
kalina
kalina
this conversation has devolved into you being pedantic
 
fbueckert
fbueckert
Are people looking for Simcity questions for those versions supposed to know they have to search for Simcity classic?
 
badp
badp
@YiJiang'sEvilClone We've handled this very scenario a few weeks ago actually; can't remember precisely what game
 
kalina
kalina
I'm not having this conversation anymore, I've stated my view and will be tagging every question I ask about SimCity with simcity
 
badp
badp
oh yeah
7
Q: How to handle multiple games with the same exact name?

badpNeed for Speed: Most Wanted is the 2005 EA Black Box game that's imho the only Need for Speed game worth playing of the titles I've tried so far. Box art straight from Wikipedia: Need for Speed: Most Wanted is the 2012 Criterion Game title that's just about to be released. The Wikipedia articl...

discussion tags
 
kalina
kalina
4:49 PM
can't be bothered with more pedants today
 
Ben Brocka
Ben Brocka
@badp what is the m for in Chrome's version?
 
badp
badp
@BenBrocka I have no idea.
 
fbueckert
fbueckert
@badp Based off of that, the new game's tag is simcity-2013.
Which works for me.
 
badp
badp
9 mins ago, by badp
Simcity-1989 or something and Simcity-2013
 
kalina
kalina
@fbueckert argument is moot, we have no questions tagged simcity
 
Yi Jiang's Evil Clone
Yi Jiang's Evil Clone
4:50 PM
@badp Yes, but it's different in this case. The old game is really old enough that I don't see a significant number of questions or amount of interest placed in the old version
 
fbueckert
fbueckert
@kalina That's because it got renamed to simcity-classic
Hence why we're having this discussion.
 
kalina
kalina
good, that's what it should be named.
 
badp
badp
@YiJiang'sEvilClone I'm okay with having exceptions for rules, but they should be discussed on meta
 
OrigamiRobot
OrigamiRobot
I WANT TO CONTRIBUTE TO TAG ARGUMENTS
 
fbueckert
fbueckert
@kalina Except we don't do that unilaterally.
 
kalina
kalina
4:51 PM
@fbueckert also, I implore you to google 'simcity classic' and 'simcity'
Google disagrees with you
 
fbueckert
fbueckert
Just retagging a question doesn't carry the tag excerpt with it.
 
Yi Jiang's Evil Clone
Yi Jiang's Evil Clone
Can't do that now. Need sleep, and my fingers are aching after thumbing so much. Maybe tomorrow if no one else wants to do the honor
 
fbueckert
fbueckert
@kalina I did. Yeah, it brings up the original.
 
kalina
kalina
@fbueckert rofl, in what universe
 
fbueckert
fbueckert
But I thought you were done with this conversation?
 
kalina
kalina
4:52 PM
googling 'simcity' brings up the new game
 
SaintWacko
SaintWacko
I should stop reading EVE stuff...
 
kalina
kalina
googling 'simcity classic' brings up the old game
 
SaintWacko
SaintWacko
It's making me want to play again
 
fbueckert
fbueckert
@kalina Second entry:
 
kalina
kalina
@SaintWacko you should, I don't have enough people on my friends list
 
fbueckert
fbueckert
4:52 PM
SimCity
SimCity is an open-ended city-building computer and console video game series and the brainchild of developer Will Wright. It is published by Maxis (now a division of Electronic Arts). The game was first published in 1989 as SimCity, and it has spawned several different editions sold worldwide. The ongoing success of SimCity has also sparked the release of many other spin-off "Sim" titles, including 2000's The Sims, the best-selling computer game up until the approximately 2012. In SimCity, the player is given the task of founding and developing a city, while maintaining the happiness of...
 
kalina
kalina
my second entry is 'News for SimCity'
"Becoming God: playing the SimCity beta"
 
SaintWacko
SaintWacko
@kalina I probably will once I tire of PoE
 
badp
badp
Guys, the last thing I want is to have rules that are followed blindly without much thought. I'm finding "simcity" and "simcity classic" hard to argue against, although I would much rather they didn't try to rewrite history
 
OrigamiRobot
OrigamiRobot
YOU ARE ALL WRONG AND I AM RIGHT PBPTPBPTBPTPBPPTBPTPBPTPBPTPBTPBPTBT
 
SaintWacko
SaintWacko
If I do, want to join me in a losec/nullsec corp?
Also, what race are you?
3
 
kalina
kalina
4:54 PM
@SaintWacko once I'm familiar enough with the game not to get blown up at every opportunity
 
badp
badp
@SaintWacko racism? FLAGGED
 
kalina
kalina
Caldari
 
SaintWacko
SaintWacko
@kalina Hey, I have no idea how to PvP either
 
kalina
kalina
@SaintWacko I don't do "chance"
 
SaintWacko
SaintWacko
Just leave your expensive stuff in hisec, and start with frigates
 
fbueckert
fbueckert
4:54 PM
@badp My concern is that if people WANT to ask questions about the original versions, they can't use the name of the game; they have to go, "Oh. This is for a different game."
 
SaintWacko
SaintWacko
@kalina It's a lot more fun if you do
Just mining is boring
 
kalina
kalina
I have been accelerated beyond my current state of knowledge by inheriting an account, I need to catch up before I feel comfortable
@SaintWacko I have been hunting down flashing yellow people in highsec and doing missions for stating and security status
I got bored of mining ages ago
 
SaintWacko
SaintWacko
@kalina Okay, that's alright. If you were Gallente or spits Minmatar, we couldn't be friends :P
 
kalina
kalina
@SaintWacko If you were xenophobic, we couldn't be friends
 
fbueckert
fbueckert
@Gnoupi this discussion isn't required, the new game is called SimCity and the original has been known as SimCity Classic since EA bought Maxis — kalina 14 mins ago
This is not constructive to proper debate, @kalina.
 
SaintWacko
SaintWacko
4:57 PM
@kalina That's about all I ever did before, but after reading about all these battles, I kinda want to try my hand in nullsec
Also, Scanning produces nicer results in nullsec
 
kalina
kalina
@fbueckert You are not constructive to a proper debate.
 
SaintWacko
SaintWacko
And wormholes are apparently a lot of fun
 
fbueckert
fbueckert
The fact that we're arguing about it here shows we need to figure it out.
 
badp
badp
NO U
 
kalina
kalina
@fbueckert The fact you are arguing here shows you need to accept the inevitable truth.
 
fbueckert
fbueckert
4:58 PM
I don't really care which way we go, as long as it's done through community consensus, not unilaterally.
That's the thing I'm concerned about.
I'm playing devil's advocate so there's a dissenting voice.
 
kalina
kalina
@fbueckert You are the one that... nevermind this is getting boring
@fbueckert arguments when you don't care about the outcome is just annoying, just go with the flow if it doesn't affect you
 
fbueckert
fbueckert
11 mins ago, by kalina
I'm not having this conversation anymore, I've stated my view and will be tagging every question I ask about SimCity with simcity
 
kalina
kalina
@fbueckert I care about the outcome, I'm going to be spamming a crapload of questions under the tag
 
fbueckert
fbueckert
The discussion needs to be had, especially if we're going to say consistent.
 
kalina
kalina
You don't even want to play the game for some crap reason that you've already demonstrated you don't care about in other games from worse companies
 
fbueckert
fbueckert
5:01 PM
And current site policy is tagging it as simcity-2013
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badp
badp
Policy isn't there to be followed blindly
 
fbueckert
fbueckert
@badp I realize that.
 
kalina
kalina
I won't be raising any questions under simcity-2013
I will be using simcity
because I'm not clutching desperately to policy
 
fbueckert
fbueckert
@kalina Y'know, you're being craptacular at actually arguing your viewpoint.
 
kalina
kalina
the Most Wanted thing is different, it's two games released within a couple of years of each other
 
fbueckert
fbueckert
5:02 PM
You're just going, "I'm using this tag and I don't care about anything else."
 
badp
badp
@kalina if we do opt for simcity-2013 or simcity-new or simcity-whatever I really do hope you won't be engaging on edit wars because you're not having it your way, that's all :P
 
kalina
kalina
@badp I don't do edit wars, somebody will get a lot of edits off my questions though
 
badp
badp
We can also use synonyms shrug
 
kalina
kalina
@fbueckert I tried the reasonable explanation of why, you blanked it and went policyyyyyyyyyyy
 
fbueckert
fbueckert
@kalina Your reasonable explanation is, "EA retconned it! Argument over!"
 
kalina
kalina
5:04 PM
@fbueckert my reasonable explanation is that simcity classic is widely accepted as the first game, since it's a classic version of the game
 
fbueckert
fbueckert
Which is an appeal to authority if ever I heard one.
 
kalina
kalina
sure, it's the original, yes it was originally called simcity
but right now, in the real world, "SimCity" refers to only one game
which is the game of the year, currently in closed beta
 
fbueckert
fbueckert
@kalina Biased much?
 
kalina
kalina
@fbueckert I'm providing you the viewpoint of a huge demographic in gaming that wasn't even born when the original was out
 
fbueckert
fbueckert
@kalina So because you're all young, that means the original game gets overridden?
 
kalina
kalina
5:07 PM
@fbueckert way to twist the argument
 
fbueckert
fbueckert
@kalina Way to introduce the twist.
 
kalina
kalina
@fbueckert zzzzzz
 
fbueckert
fbueckert
I'm willing to be reasonable, but your argument, honestly, sucks.
 
kalina
kalina
I'm willing to be reasonable, but you're too unreasonable
We're not all 40, desperately holding on to oldschool gaming like all modern games are a blight on society
 
fbueckert
fbueckert
Ok, this is getting nowhere. If you want an exception to site policy, make a meta.
Otherwise, that's what site policy is for.
 
badp
badp
5:13 PM
You know what the REAL problem with f.lux is?
It doesn't also affect the mouse cursor
It's a bright cold white spot in a soft warm desktop
 
SaintWacko
SaintWacko
@badp Ooh, that would be weird
 
Gaming Topics From Outside
Gaming Topics From Outside
5:26 PM
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Q: Steam Counter Strike 1.6 Linux beta with optimus (optirun/primusrun)

gaspoI was able to run Sam 3 on nvidia card before. Now they added CS 1.6 but they changed paths. I modified the original command I was using for sam3 but it doesnt work. cd ~/.steam/steam/SteamApps/common/Half-Life/ && export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=~/.steam/steam/ubuntu12_32 && pr...

games nvidia-optimus steam
 
user15026
@BenBrocka HECK YES MEW MEW TRAIN
 
Michel
Michel
"Gaming Topics From Outside" == GTFO == UAAUhaUhA Lol² Rolf
 
FAE
FAE
:o The Dutch queen is going to abdicate her throne in about 20 minutes.
@AshleyNunn ^ potentially of interest to your family?
 
Grace Note
Grace Note
@FAE ...wha
 
badp
badp
5:42 PM
@FAE Who's the recipient?
 
FAE
FAE
@badp Next in line is her son.
Well, it's heavily rumored that this is going to be abdication, but everyone knows it pretty much is. There was an announcement today that she's going to be giving a speech at 19:00 CET.
 
badp
badp
The good part is that I easily ignored there was such a thing as a Queen of Netherlands for the entirety of my stay
It's actually weird to think that I've lived under a monarchy for months, I thought it would feel... different. Like every so often I'd be reminded that hey, there's such a thing as a king and he's watching you
 
FAE
FAE
@badp Yeah, it's mostly a ceremonial position.
@badp Constitutional monarchy, to be precise!
 
OrigamiRobot
OrigamiRobot
@badp Like Santa!
 
FAE
FAE
@badp Well, there wasn't a king, there was her husband, the Prince, but he passed away in 2002.
 
Ronan Forman
Ronan Forman
5:48 PM
Who knows about the stack exchange API?
 
Ben Brocka
Ben Brocka
@FAE Still creepy
 
badp
badp
@RonanForman The help page is quite helpful
It lets you run requests by filling out forms and stuff
 
FAE
FAE
@BenBrocka Well they have a prime minister, parliament and cabinet and such. The queen's not super active in the political sphere. The PM has more power in the general government stuff.
 
badp
badp
@Michel I blame @LessPop_MoreFizz
 
LessPop_MoreFizz
LessPop_MoreFizz
Wat.
 
badp
badp
5:50 PM
@LessPop_MoreFizz I blame you for his rolfing.
 
LessPop_MoreFizz
LessPop_MoreFizz
Wat.
 
badp
badp
@LessPop_MoreFizz Look at him rolfing. Just look at him.
 
LessPop_MoreFizz
LessPop_MoreFizz
Oh.
 
kalina
kalina
rolling on the laughing floor
its a floor dedicated to laughing
 
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