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Q: Has anyone used the Lenovo y480 with Ubuntu?

MarcusI'm looking into a Laptop with good graphics capabilities for under $1000, and I came across the Lenovo y470p and y480. The y470p has an AMD graphics card which I'm told is supported better under Linux but is otherwise "last gen," while the y480 has a Nvidia 640m card but is much newer tech. I'...

 
12:19 AM
Anyone seen @spugsley today?
 
I think a question got incorrectly merged. gaming.stackexchange.com/questions/79679/… is for Orcs Must Die 2, it was merged with a question on how skulls are gained in orcs must die 1 (gaming.stackexchange.com/questions/38479/how-are-skulls-awarded). Can a mod undo it?
 
@Rapida Oh crap. x_x I derped on that one. I didn't even notice it was for the original Orcs Must Die when I brought it up in chat.
 
@Fluttershy No biggie, I was thinking I derped on my answer.
 
@Rapida Did how they award skulls change between the games?
 
@James I think so, OMD1 didn't have coop which unlocks some skulls in 2
 
12:24 AM
ahh
 
@Mana Come back! You are needed again!
Apparently I have the dumb today. I even read both of the questions and answers in their entirety and completely missed the lack of a "2" in the other question.
 
@Fluttershy I only noticed due to the dates
Made me suspicious, so I watched the youtube videos on raven's answer
 
is it considered normal that i still do not have my mouse from the diablo 3 competition?
 
@ayckoster Assuming you received/replied to the e-mail following the announcement, I'd say probably not. =\
 
hmmm
 
12:45 AM
@GnomeSlice Well I'll click it, at any length.
 
user2334
@Rapida IIRC, unmerging requires dev intervention :/
 
user2334
The answers aren't just deleted from the source question and copied to the destination question, they're re-associated to the destination question
 
@LessPop_MoreFizz O yeah, crazy story.
 
@RedRiderX Yeah, the story has been around for a few days, but he finally broke down the 'how' in this article
tl;dr: Getting into Amazon accounts is stupidly easy. Once you have an amazon account, you know the last 4 digits of somebody's credit card, and with that you can get into an apple id
 
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12:57 AM
Everything should require 2-factor auth at this point, with a requirement to send a photocopy of a gov't document if you lose your token generator
 
@LessPop_MoreFizz I remember him doing a small interview on TWiT yesterday, but I'll definitely read this article through.
 
the article is mostly about apples flaw, but the one that scares me is the amazon trick tbqh
 
@LessPop_MoreFizz Definitely a cautionary tale.
 
Hey, how much rep do you need to participate in chat?
I want to go to superuser.com and ask questions about getting WoW working on wine
But I don't see any chat thing in the sidebar.
Oh, nevermind. There was a chat link in the top nav bar.
Arqade is the only SE site I really understand so far. lol
 
1:13 AM
@Koviko They're all fairly similar, when it comes to the basics.
Most stuff is in close to the same place across sites.
 
@RedRiderX I hope so :)
 
Oh, they have the footage from the bottom of Curiosity and the final moments of the descent up on YouTube.
Neat.
 
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Q: If I buy a costume on tiny-tower, will all of my bitizens be able to wear it?

Outlaw LemurSuppose I want to buy the pumpkin costume in tiny tower Can I then use this costume on any of my bitizens?

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Q: swapping boot and rom chips on n64 carts

TWoodIs this as simple as it seems? Find a matching game that uses same boot chip and swap it over to a seemingly dead board? Or do the opposite and move the game rom chip over to a board with a working boot chip? Is there a way to test the pins of the current installed chip to verify if it is bad or...

 
2:20 AM
Ahhh!!
@Fluttershy AAAAHHH.
 
@Mana I'm assuming you saw the conversation above where I pinged you? ._.
 
@Mana Trololololololololol
@Fluttershy I pinged him on bacefook, lololololol
 
@GnomeSlice Ah, thanks.
So, @Mana... <_< Do you see the issue to which I am referring?
 
Yes Tristan, I do, and am currently in the process of getting it resolved.
USING ALL MY STRENGTH.
which as it turns out is very little since I have to get the devs to do it.
 
I'm sorry. x_x
 
2:26 AM
It's okay, I've made silly mistakes myself.
I should have checked the tags more carefully before merging.
 
Now that we've all learned something about friendship tag merging...
 
The lack of a 2 is an easy thing to miss. x_x
 
hmmmm
well, I'll have to deal with it tomorrow it seems, no devs on that I can see.
gonna sleep. Don't feel bad @Fluttershy, the only thing you ever have to apologize to me for is that bloody awful gravatar of yours.
 
@Mana My gravatar is awesome. Way better than Karkat.
 
you wish.
Night!
 
2:34 AM
G'night!
 
@Fluttershy My daughter has started watching My Little Pony. Can you really defend Fluttershy as the best? I mean wouldn't Rainbowdash be a more obvious choice. I feel this is a dangerous question to ask... but just curious.
 
Hah! 'Sofia Martinez' can eat a dick.
@Mana Right, like merging two questions about different games.
 
@EBongo Fluttershy is best pony. She's more adorable than a box of cute. Rainbow Dash is too obnoxious to be best pony.
 
@Fluttershy Well I won't diss your choice of handle. I guess I don't get it, but no surprise there.
 
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Q: My brother and I are unable to connect to minecraft LAN servers, any way we can fix this?

TylerWhen we click 'Open To LAN' it gives us an ip address but when we use that to Direct Connect it doesn't work. We've also let the "Searching for LAN worlds" sit there for an hour and nothing happened. Please help, I'm not the best with computers but I do know a decent amount of stuff. Our inte...

 
3:10 AM
@EBongo Everyone has their favorites. =P @Wipqozn and I have had words about who was best. Our lists are polar opposites.
 
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3:21 AM
So why was this question closed? Seems no better or worse than the other MoP overview questions, like this or this
 
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@Fluttershy This.
 
@Fluttershy Flame Princess is best princess.
 
@MarkTrapp Looks like @badp acted on a flag or comment without having followed the ongoing meta discussion that was linked to.
I think I've seen this movie before...
 
user15026
@OrigamiRobot agreed but LSP runs a close second
 
user2334
3:23 AM
@LessPop_MoreFizz This is my surprised face
 
@AshleyNunn In your face @Fluttershy!
 
user15026
@OrigamiRobot ....I agreed with him too :P
 
@AshleyNunn He disagrees on princesses
 
user15026
@OrigamiRobot .....how can you not think Flame Princess is the best?
 
user15026
I do have a love for the Slime Princess as well though
 
3:28 AM
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Q: Change the spawn point for LAN players in a single player map

JoeUsing Minecraft 1.3, a single player map can be opened up for LAN play. How do you change where other players will spawn? I know how to change my own spawn point (by using a bed), but how can I change where other players on the LAN will spawn when they join in? The original place I spawned in ...

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Q: What's a Black question mark box?

KatieKIn the 4th world, right before the final castle, there was a black question mark box world. I think it costs coins to enter the world. What is the significance of this black question mark box?

 
user15026
Can someone tell me what emotion this face - :3 represents?
 
user2334
The Zoidberg emotion. Trying to come up with an emotion to attribute to an emoticon: why not Zoidberg?
 
@Lazers I don't think this belongs here; this seems more to do with hardware modding than gaming.
 
user15026
@MarkTrapp Fair enough, this is acceptable logic.
 
user2334
> A symbol meant to represent the cat face made by anime characters when they say something clever, or sarcastic, or are commenting on something cute.
 
user2334
3:36 AM
According to Urban Dictionary
 
@MarkTrapp (V)(;,,;)(V)
2
 
@AshleyNunn According to Wikipedia (yes, Wikipedia), it is a big grin
 
> did you know you have your own Youtube channel?
 
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@Ktash Is there anything wikipedia does NOT have a list of? But thank you for solving my conundrum.
 
Thanks Youtube. Very Enlightening.
 
3:38 AM
@AshleyNunn Raggedy Princess is best princess!
 
user2334
 
user15026
@Fluttershy She kinda scares me a little
 
@OrigamiRobot Also (V)(°,,°)(V)
2
 
user15026
@MarkTrapp See, this is why The bridge is awesome, because you find me glorious answers to my questions.
 
@Ktash wupwupwupwup
 
3:39 AM
@AshleyNunn How can Raggedy Princess scare anyone!?
 
user15026
@OrigamiRobot I was totally making that noise in my head
 
Y'know what... Nevermind. I need to sleep. >_> G'night Bridge!
 
user2334
@AshleyNunn curtsies :3
 
user15026
@Fluttershy Good night :)
 
@Fluttershy troll ping
 
3:45 AM
@MarkTrapp I think a grown man, complete with 'stache, attempting a curtsey is scarier than anything else I've seen today.
 
user2334
I also have a full beard, if that makes it better/worse.
 
swoon
 
user15026
@fbueckert Depends, is there a tutu involved, or some other fancy skirt? You would need one for a proper curtsey after all
 
@AshleyNunn Even without, it's crazy scary.
 
user15026
@fbueckert Eh, I think it is gallant. :P
 
3:48 AM
@AshleyNunn A bow is gallant. A man curtseying is just downright scary.
 
user2334
 
user15026
@MarkTrapp perfect.
 
user2334
The white bars were bugging me.
 
user2334
2000 snowflakes, 60 fps. tortoise shades
 
3:53 AM
@MarkTrapp Haha, if you can run that, I'm impressed lol
 
user15026
@Ktash aww yay for blizzards. Makes my incredibly warm room seem cooler already ;)
 
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Q: What are the available Dragonvale Race wheel prizes?

EBongoAfter placing 1st, 2nd, or 3rd in a Dragonvale race, you get to "Spin the wheel" for a prize. It seems to me that the prizes are random even when I get the same place. Are the prizes consistent by race, or just random? Is there a finite list, or do they just vary slightly?

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Q: Can the result of the DragonVale race spin be controlled?

EBongoI deliberately ask this as a separate question from my question about wheel prizes, as I believe they are separate topics. I have observed that I can slowly turn the wheel before spinning, to see the possible prizes. However, despite attempts to manipulate this to my advantage, the wheel seems ...

 
4:11 AM
@MarkTrapp Well that is less than optimal
 
@Ktash Not even making my system hiccup, it looks nice :)
 
@James Good to hear. Maybe I'll add some more options just for those of you with super powerhouse systems
Or, at least better than mine lol
 
@Ktash Multiple colors :D
 
@James A rainbow blizzard?
 
@Ktash Why not? :)
 
user15026
4:13 AM
@Ktash It runs a little slow on my laptop when I choose the highest options, but it is so delightful :)
 
user15026
@Ktash Dont eat the yellow snow ;)
 
Heh, maybe in my next iteration. Though we'll see when that is
This one was about some serious optimizations, so it should run a lot faster
 
@AshleyNunn I am as pure as the yellow driven snow :D
 
user15026
@James giggles Thats....um....quite....pure. Yes. Quite.
 
@AshleyNunn I like lemon icies :)
 
user15026
4:24 AM
@James I suppose they are kinda like yellow snow.
 
@AshleyNunn :D
 
user15026
Although now I am slightly horrified.
 
user15026
And I also want a slurpee.
 
@AshleyNunn LoL!
 
user15026
@James you see my problem. ;)
 
4:28 AM
@AshleyNunn Yes but it makes me giggle
 
user15026
@James Well I am glad my plight amuses you so! sniffles
 
user15026
This is the cutest Curiosity fanart I have seen.
 
user15026
 
@AshleyNunn Nice :)
 
user15026
I saw it today and I was like OMG THIS IS THE CUTEST
 
4:31 AM
I just fear for the safety of any mars-equivalent cats.
 
user15026
@James Took me a second, but this amused me.
 
(ignore the huge header)
 
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@RilgonArcsinh OH HOLY CRAP SO MUCH CUTE explodes
 
@AshleyNunn :)
 
More or less
 
4:51 AM
@Ktash Does the snow fall while the tab with it in it is not active?
 
 
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6:06 AM
good-morning-internet-tumbleweed
 
6:26 AM
 
6:49 AM
Hrm.
I think this server has something wrong: i.imgur.com/5ms0a.jpg
Just a hunch.
 
@RilgonArcsinh He is partying.
 
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@Blem voted to re-open when I saw it before. Not really clear on why it was closed.
 
I would VtR, but I don't have the rep.
I was seriously confused as to why it was closed myself.
 
7:17 AM
Yup, as suspected, that server had bad RAM sticks.
<insert scathing disapproval of G.skill ram here>
 
7:39 AM
@MarkTrapp @RilgonArcsinh I VtR that question and it's now open
 
 
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8:40 AM
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Q: Can you benefit from the +max speed while gliding arround?

ThanatosI saw that you can upgrade your max speed and the time needed to get to the max speed. Now if you obtain them, does this increase the gliding speed or just the running speed, make this in fact that you are faster while running arround and climbing up every house than gliding through the air?

 
8:57 AM
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Q: Swapping boot and ROM chips on N64 cartridges

TWoodIs this as simple as it seems? Find a matching game that uses same boot chip and swap it over to a seemingly dead board? Or do the opposite and move the game ROM chip over to a board with a working boot chip? Is there a way to test the pins of the current installed chip to verify if it is bad or...

Am I the only one that feels that this sorta flirts with off-topic?
 
Nothing wrong with flirting.
 
Hello
 
Hello!
 
@njallam Hi!
 
9:09 AM
Opinions on this answer please
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A: Adding Minecraft to Steam with 64bit JRE

njallamAdding Minecraft (Java 64bit) to Steam Navigate to "C:\Program Files\Java\jre7\bin" in Windows Explorer Find the file "javaw.exe" and duplicate it (Copy and Paste it in the same folder) Name the new file "Minecraft.exe" Now open Steam and in the bottom left, click "Add a Game", then "Add a Non-...

 
@njallam it needs more cake
 
Not sure how clear I made it
@pixel That would help too
 
@pixel There is never enough cake for you, eh? :P
 
I don't eat cake, it's too fattening
but who doesn't love sugary confections
 
Well, I can see how on-topic this chatroom is
 
9:11 AM
This channel doesn't have a topic
besides all the grown ups are sleeping
 
@njallam I think it's pretty clear. I can't try it out myself right now though.
 
@PatrickStalder OK thanks, it took me about 10,000 edits
 
I will even upvote it for you
 
@pixel :D Thanks
Oh, so that Windows purist did down-vote the answer
 
@njallam the answer looks fine
 
9:19 AM
@Blem Thanks
It's part YouTube help, part my own solution
 
"Windows purist" ?
This is real life, there is no Purity First here.
 
@njallam You have my answer in the comments already. :) Also, I think your solution won't be able to be executed without disabling UAC.
 
@MartinSojka I managed to do it and I have UAC on default settings.
 
Might be different between Win Vista and Win 7 then. I remember one of them throwing a fit when I tried to hack some DLLs there. ;)
 
renaming is hardly hacking
renaming a DLL is to hacking what TV drama is to technically correc... OMG IS THAT A TWELVE CORE?
 
9:30 AM
Also, tips: Use %ProgramFiles% for the default installation directory (it depends on language on older Windows versions), %AppData% for the Minecraft default path (so you don't have to know the username), %UserProfile% if you want just the user directory.
I didn't mean that renaming is hacking. I meant UAC throw a fit when I did hack some DLLs there by replacing them with ones I wrote and modified myself.
 
@MartinSojka Could you please edit that into my answer.
It'll give you some rep
 
yes but Windows vista prompted you with the UAC when you tried to start it up, login, open notepad, browse the internet, shut down, reboot, eat cake, etc
@njallam he's already above 5k, he won't get rep out of edits, just sayin'
 
@pixel OK
 
I'm actually at 1.2k or so on Gaming.SE - not that I care about it either way.
 
oh
and it's 2k for the edit rep thing
but ok
 
9:34 AM
I'll see that I edit it in. Still I think it's like answering a question of "How do I manage to pay as little as possibly to my wife on divorce?" with "Kill her."
 
@MartinSojka Now that is a slight exaggeration
 
@njallam Of course it is. :)
 
@MartinSojka Still a solution though
 
@MartinSojka you would probably cry with all the various symlinks I have linking folders within folders to other folders
 
Yay! I got an upvote on my QA!
@MartinSojka I'm not suer if Steam will accept the %% links
I'll test it
Nope
 
9:40 AM
@pixel And you would probably cry when any try to change system-wide stuff on one of my machines would only result in "permission denied" or "device mounted read-only" error messages. ;) Ok, likely not.
 
"Failed to launch Minecraft" (Steam Error)
 
@njallam So change it back. As I wrote, can't check since I don't have Steam.
 
@MartinSojka I would just format a PC that didn't do what I wanted it to do
 
@pixel Same here. It's all in Steam cloud and the magic Dropbox
 
@pixel Oh, but I make sure they do all the things people want to do with them, unless they are illegal or against the laws of physics. :)
They are just very resistant to messing around ... so much so that I have virtual machines for most of my hacking. :D
 
9:43 AM
Well then if that's the case, and your machines do whatever I want them to do, the situation you detailed would never happen, would it?
 
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Q: How do I decide between a Wit's End or an Ionic Razor?

AlokWit's End gives 40% AS and +42 Magic Damage Ionic Razor gives 50% AS and every fourth attack procs a chain lightning Several builds for AS focused champions such as Irelia recommend a Wit's End, in her case it also benefits Bladesurge which helps with killing fleeing enemies. However, in the ge...

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Q: Why is there a Level 40 in my ~Level 20 match?

njallamI was playing Tribes: Ascend on the public servers, which are only for people of a certain rank boundary, however I saw by pressing TAB that there was a Level 40 on the enemy team. This is twice the average level of the players. Why is this happening? I though the matches were limited by level...

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Q: What are the maximum allowed stats?

AlokI know that Cooldown Reduction is capped at 40%, and Attack Speed at 2.5 (i.e. +150% to cap?). What are the various caps for all the equipment properties (life steal, armor, +%damage etc.), and which of these are limited to just a single source? (e.g. Rabadon's Deathcap gives +%AP, I'm not aware ...

 
@Lazers Ignore that, it's a Q&A
 
@njallam Lazers is a bot
 
@pixel I though so. Anyway, just a message to anyone else in the chat.
 
@njallam: I explicitly didn't advocate copying javaw.exe to your user directory - I wrote to make a link or junction.
An NTFS junction point is a feature of the NTFS file system that provides the ability to create a symbolic link to a directory which then functions as an alias of that directory. This has many benefits over a Windows shell shortcut (.lnk) file, such as allowing access to files within the directory via Windows Explorer, the Command Prompt, etc. Junction points can only link to directories on a local volume; junction points to remote shares are unsupported. [http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb896768 Sysinternals Junction documentation] Junction points are a type of NTFS re...
 
9:46 AM
@MartinSojka I see your point, and it is a very good point. I haven't really got much experience in links.
How would I change the solution to use a link
 
From Vista onwards, you use this:
An NTFS symbolic link (symlink) is a filesystem object in the NTFS filesystem that points to another filesystem object. The object being pointed to is called the target. Symbolic links should be transparent to users; the links appear as normal files or directories, and can be acted upon by the user or application in exactly the same manner. Symbolic links are designed to aid in migration and application compatibility with POSIX operating systems, and were introduced with the modifications made to the NTFS file system with Windows Vista. Unlike an NTFS junction point (available since Window...
There's a description of the mklink command in this article.
XP or below might be out of luck. You might be able to create a link file (*.lnk), but no idea if Steam would even accept it - likely not. A junction is only able to link to a directory (I mis-remembered that one), so it's less helpful too, and can't be used on non-NTFS file systems, like in Win98 or earlier.
 
OK
 
morning @LessPop_MoreFizz
 
@pixel I don't think he's made it to a parking lot yet, give him time
 
he popped into chat, I figured I'd pre-empt
 
10:00 AM
@RilgonArcsinh :P
I just woke up actually
 
yep, it's got to be like 5am for you
 
A fair point, I just wanted to make a parking lot joke
 
and am going to be pretty scarce today as the boss lady is in town and going to be riding along with me.
 
I'd go more with "hasn't got up after falling out of bed" more than "not made it to parking lot"
 
I am an easily amused rageberry green rabbit thing with a forehead gem nerd
 
10:01 AM
Your boss lady is going to be riding you?
and you announce it in public?
 
What a pity those were on separate lines, so much star potential there
 
I purposely spread what I say across multiple lines to avoid
putting starable content on the same line
 
@AshleyNunn There is also an... alternative and much more... erm... blue, definition for that smiley.
@pixel This one has learned well the lessons of @GnomeSlice.
 
the lessons of GnomeSlice?
That's like attributing my rebelling against the system to somebody else
 
10:08 AM
@Wipqozn nice graphs, they're your fault though
 
@Wipqozn This is why I adblocked the comment-div on Youtube
 
You mean, aside from the fact that Google somehow managed to make a worse commenting system than 4chan?
 
@RilgonArcsinh I <3 Shutup.css
 
@LessPop_MoreFizz Interesting, I just bruteforced it by DOM-inspecting and adblocking the specific div on youtube
 
@RilgonArcsinh Just imagine. the whole internet without comments.
It's like the promised land.
 
10:18 AM
Given what I deal with at work, I would find an internet without Minecraft to be the promised land, tbqh
All due apologies to Notch and people that like the game, but holy hell, fuck people that host Minecraft servers (or at least the ones I deal with)
 
Some of these are not restaurant specifc, but it is an awesome list: nytimes.com/interactive/2012/08/06/opinion/…
Shiksas is just standard yiddish.
(for example)
 
He, I host a minecraft server too!
 
@MartinSojka Welp, you just made an enemy.
 
@MartinSojka Are you super whiny, demanding, and throw fits about the most minor technical blips (like whining about 21ms RTT from Dallas to Austin)?
 
@RilgonArcsinh For some 11 years, I've been a senior sysadmin for 100+ (later 1000+) Linux systems. When I throw a fit about some hoster's technical incompetence, they deserve it.
 
10:23 AM
@MartinSojka You can remain off the list... for now.
(I am mostly kidding, but holy hell do some of our clients drive me to drinking)
 
some of our clients drive me to do everything that is wrong with my life
 
Yeah, the usual "Why does (program X) crash when it tries to allocate 2GB or RAM on my 1GB-limited cheap-ass entry-level virtual machine?!? Fix it!!!!!11!!!" kind.
 
don't you love those guys that come up to you while you're eating and try to hold a conversation not suitable for while you're eating?
@MartinSojka I don't deal with anything that silly, I have 3 tiers of support between me and the customer
 
@pixel Can you give an example? I can't think of anything that's not suitable for an "eating conversation" off hand.
 
@MartinSojka More or less, or the "WHY VPS NO START" (because I am a dumbfuck and changed my default kernel off the SolusVM xen kernel) sort.
(the I in that parenthetical being the customer)
 
10:28 AM
@MartinSojka discussion of some gore crap that was on TV, cutting people up, lots of blood, too much describing for me to ignore the conversation while eating my sandwich
Just... bleugh
 
Oh, I had once a customer call us one day and complain his machine wasn't running. We checked the logs. It wasn't running .. because he logged in on the shell and shut it down. :D
 
@MartinSojka Been there, done that
 
Okay, I'm out. Don't do anything I wouldn't do while I'm gone.
 
@LessPop_MoreFizz that doesn't limit the list at all
 
"WHY MY SERVER OFFLINE" "because the other user on your account powered it off."
 
10:29 AM
@pixel Of course it doesn't. It's just that if you're gonna do something that I wouldn't do, I want to be there for that shit.
 
@MartinSojka I'm so glad I don't deal directly with customers. By the time any customer communication happens involving me it's usually handing over completed product customisations, and they're nice to me on account of the fact I control how much they pay us
 
@pixel At 8 or so years old, I participated in the slaughtering of a pig. It was delicious. So, still don't see it. :)
 
oh come on I'm still eating -.-
very vivid imagination, if you say something like that an image of it starts involuntarily forming in my mind
 
Sorry about that then. I also brutally decapitated thousands of grass blades this week-end. How's that for a gory image? :)
 
...
 
10:32 AM
@LessPop_MoreFizz I will avoid any deep-dish pizza temptations.
 
Oh wait, he said "don't do anything I wouldn't do"
... does lots of work
 
Oh, now I know what kind of conversation I'd rather not have while eating. The "Which underwear should I put on?" kind.
 
@MartinSojka The frilly sort, obviously.
 
you can talk about slaughtering animals while eating but not underwear?
 
@pixel Some people have different triggers. :)
 
10:43 AM
Not when people insist on showing the choices. Totally destroys my appetite (for the food).
 
I just used 4 tags on a question
 
@pixel slaughtering animals is just normal, you eat them after that, so in fact it is a great thing to talk about while eating, underwear is a thing you don't eat so what is more likely to be talked about while eating?
 
@Thanatos perhaps I'm a vegetarian and slaughtering animals is not a natural act for me?
 
So slaughter them to protect your cave. :)
 
I don't live in a cave, I live in a field
I have no dangers presented to me by the local wildlife
 
10:47 AM
@Thanatos I would not so universally state that "underwear is a thing you don't eat", now. ;)
 
Candy Underwear, obviously#
But the point is, the thought of slaughtering an animal makes my stomach want to contract, and eject its contents
@QAdley your question highlights a conversation I attempted to raise on meta a while back, regarding the merging of hardware tags
 
@pixel maybe you are vegetarian, but in your nature bevore 10'000 years everybody from mankind had killed animals. so in fact it is your nature ;)
 
@pixel Yeah, hw tags are something that hasn't been sorted yet. The volume is pretty low though so it's not a massive issue for now
 
@Thanatos so is murdering guys for no apparent reason other than them being weird, I don't do it often enough for people to notice though
 
your point
 
10:50 AM
@pixel Well, everybody has their strange habits. :)
 
Now now, let's not get into a "vegetarianism bad" "vegetarianism good" argument. :P Both sides have valid enough structs of reasoning, so live and let live, IMO.
(relatively speaking)
 
I'm not even a vegetarian, I like bacon
I don't want the image of a pig being slaughtered while eating it though!
 
Fair enough - some people don't care to know how the sausage is made, either. :)
 
bacen is the number one reason not to be vegetarian
 
I care how the sausage is made
I would certainly not wish to see it
ever
 
10:52 AM
Stop defusing my turns of phrase, damnit.
 
I have been a borderline vegetarian since I learned where lamb came from.
 
what were you before? full vegetarian or full meat eater?
 
oh sure, full vegetarian, learned that cute little sheeps get slaughtered, became a meat eater... makes legitimate sense
 
yeah totaly
 
totally
 
10:54 AM
"Oh man, you can get the blood of the innocent this way? sign me up!"
 
I ate meat -> found out that little sheeps get killed -> stopped eating meat -> remembered how much I love bacon -> started eating some meats infrequently
 
Which, as long as you're not trying to condemn others for not following in your steps, is an entirely acceptable course of action, IMO.
 
ye ofc, I don't condemn others for eating meat, I condemn them for being mistaken in me wanting to know about it while eating
 
@pixel Oh well yes, there's a difference between "eating meat" and "being a tactless jerk" :P
 
the latter is the cause of this whole conversation
 
10:57 AM
Rules of the Happy Meat Eater:
* Eat only what you're prepared to kill yourself.
* Don't ask, don't tell.
Pick one. :)
 
Looks like I just became a vegan
well, kind of
vegan / cannibal
 
why vegan?
 
No problem killing humans
@Thanatos I wouldn't be willing to milk the cow, kinda falls under point (1)
 
but taking an egg from the ground?
and there was a "Pick one"
 
meh, eggs aren't a big deal
milk + cheese > eggs
 
10:59 AM
@pixel The udders of the diary cows can burst if not milked. Literally. The poor animals are bred this way.
 
any day
 

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