The Bridge

In computer science, in particular networking, a session is a semi-permanent interactive information interchange, also known as a dialogue, a conversation or a meeting, between two or more communicating devices, or between a computer and user (see Login session). A session is set up or established at a certain point in time, and torn down at a later point in time. An established communication session may involve more than one message in each direction. A session is typically, but not always, stateful, meaning that at least one of the communicating parts needs to save information about the s...

OrigamiRobot

@fbueckert Fal + Ohm + Um

Wipqozn

When you said session that's what I thought of.

I'm so cool.

OrigamiRobot

@Wipqozn Session is a layer of the OSI Model

fbueckert

@Wipqozn I was more referring to a pen & paper session, but, eh, whatever.

I roll with what I'm given.

OrigamiRobot

@fbueckert booo D&D, yay GURPS

fbueckert

1:30 PM

@OrigamiRobot Happy?

OrigamiRobot

@fbueckert NO

QAdley

@OrigamiRobot shudder

OrigamiRobot

@QAdley All People Seem To Need Data Processing

fbueckert

@OrigamiRobot And after I even gave you an awesome item, too! Ungrateful players...

QAdley

@OrigamiRobot Your use of capital letters worries me

OrigamiRobot

1:32 PM

@fbueckert Hey, I found that item! It's mine!

ickleislands

@QAdley at least he's consistent, rather than "All people Seem To need Data Processing"

OrigamiRobot

@QAdley Everyone loves a good mnemonic device!

QAdley

@OrigamiRobot Everyone Loves a Good Mnemonic Device

OrigamiRobot

@QAdley I am not familiar with that one.

QAdley

@OrigamiRobot I Am Not Familiar With THat One

Wipqozn

1:34 PM

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OrigamiRobot

@QAdley California Cows Wont Dance The Fandango

Wipqozn

@fbueckert I think the only time @OrigamiRobot is happy is when he closes a question.

OrigamiRobot

@Wipqozn I am happiest when I close a question as a dupe of one of my own questions.

QAdley

@OrigamiRobot Richard Of York Gave Battle, Insane!

fbueckert

@QAdley That...seems to be missing a word.

OrigamiRobot

1:36 PM

@QAdley Bad Boys Rob Our Young Girls But Violet Gives Willingly

ickleislands

@QAdley GLORIOUS!

Ronan Forman

@fbueckert There are only 6 colours in the rainbow, I don't see a missing word.

ickleislands

7

just sayin'

Wipqozn

@OrigamiRobot Then you should just ask a bunch of duplicates.

QAdley

@ickleislands Incorrect

Ronan Forman

1:37 PM

@ickleislands Have you ever seen a rainbow?

fbueckert

@Wipqozn Yes! Then I can downvote them as poorly researched with no effort!

ickleislands

If you both want to get pedantic, there are an infinite number of colours in a rainbow because they're not solid opaque colours

QAdley

There are in fact no colours

The appearance of 'bands' of colour is as a result of being conditioned to see those colours

ickleislands

Ok now that is pedantic on a whole new level I haven't experienced before

fbueckert

@ickleislands You haven't talked with programmers at length before, have you?

QAdley

1:39 PM

Colour theory is interesting

fbueckert

We defined pedant.

OrigamiRobot

Münchhausen Trilemma

The Münchhausen Trilemma (after Baron Münchhausen, who allegedly pulled himself and the horse on which he was sitting out of a swamp by his own hair), also called Agrippa's Trilemma (after Agrippa the Skeptic), is a philosophical term coined to stress the purported impossibility to prove any truth even in the fields of logic and mathematics. It is the name of an argument in the theory of knowledge going back to the German philosopher Hans Albert, and more traditionally, in the name of Agrippa. Trilemma If we ask of any knowledge: "How do I know that it's true?", we may provide proof; yet ...

QAdley

blog.xkcd.com/2010/05/03/color-survey-results

ickleislands

@fbueckert Programmers speak logic, logic conversations are easy

fbueckert

@ickleislands Programmers will also argue over strict word usage.

ickleislands

1:40 PM

@fbueckert the second programmers start being pedantic I just mention something about user experience and how their's is crap thus making them bad.

QAdley

> I WILL EAT YOUR HEART WITH A FUCKING SPOON IF YOU AKS ANY MORE QUESTIONS ABOUT COLORS

ickleislands

once you call a programmer bad they tend to sulk = victory!

QAdley

—Anonymous, Color Survey

ickleislands

"Your lack of user experience is why you sit in this basement rather than work at a good company, now shush."

Mana

@LessPopMoreFizz This album is really neat.

Ian Pugsley

1:49 PM

@Mana which?

Mana

@IanPugsley new Dirty Projectors album, Swing Lo Magellan

lots of neat guitar stuff going on.

fbueckert

@ickleislands I have, I shit you not, argued between "somewhat bad" and "fairly bad".

@ickleislands You realize insulting people who hold the keys to your computer are usually not the people you want to piss off, right?

ickleislands

@fbueckert my response to that is that scales of bad are irrelevant, if a programmer creates more problems than (s)he solves during a project, then the fact they should have not bothered is exactly what I will portray to them

fbueckert

@ickleislands I wasn't talking in the context of programmer problems; that was a pedant example.

ickleislands

@fbueckert any "programmer" who takes constructive critism as an insult should go find another career, any programmer that results to threats as a result of such statements is only causing themselves more problems

@fbueckert causing intentional damage to something I own through programming would result in being labelled as a cracker and spending time in a cell

Moral high ground, still walking on clouds

Ronan Forman

2:00 PM

@ickleislands I don't think you know what constructive criticism is.

fbueckert

@ickleislands So...you calling them bad as a key to victory, even if it's not true, and them retaliating by pranking your computer is not fair, and they're the bad ones?

ickleislands

@RonanForman sure I do, I didn't give any critical examples of the sort of criticism I'd give as I wasn't given something to be critical of

@fbueckert I wouldn't call somebody who isn't bad that, that would be unfair, hypocritical, etc etc

Ronan Forman

20 mins ago, by ickleislands

"Your lack of user experience is why you sit in this basement rather than work at a good company, now shush."

Either you've said that to someone or you don't know how quote marks work.

fbueckert

There's a double standard going on here; I don't think you have the moral high ground.

ickleislands

@fbueckert you said arguing with programmers is futile, I said I don't argue, I discuss until there is no point in discussing and then clearly identify with them the category of person they fall into and leave it at that

arguing for the sake of arguing is boring and time consuming

fbueckert

2:03 PM

See, you need to clarify these things.

All we got was:

22 mins ago, by ickleislands

@fbueckert the second programmers start being pedantic I just mention something about user experience and how their's is crap thus making them bad.

You didn't mention that they actually had done something bad in the user experience.

The way I read it is you're pulling out the win button, period.

ickleislands

@fbueckert as a programmer yourself, identify the situations you'd be pedantic

you will find that nearly all of them will be when somebody disagreed with the way you did things

@fbueckert and since we've already had the 'you're a programmer' conversation

I didn't realise I needed to give you a back story on something you should already know

Ronan Forman

No one understands what you're saying, your lack of communication skills is clearly why you're arguing on the internet about something you have no experience in.

ickleislands

@RonanForman your assumptions make yourself look like an idiot. I don't think your comment could have been more closed minded if you had tried.

fbueckert

I'm going to disregard the condescension; I don't agree.

Either way, I gotta head out for a meeting.

Mana

Let's try to lighten up a bit, okay?

Ronan Forman

2:11 PM

@ickleislands You just insulted someone you don't even know...

ickleislands

@RonanForman You insulted somebody who don't even know, hypocrite much?

Ronan Forman

@ickleislands But I knew enough about you to make the insult, whereas you did not.

agent86

what @Mana said, enough with this, okay?

be nice. even when the other person doesn't deserve it. that's an actual chat rule

ickleislands

@agent86 I will keep responding whileever he carries it on.

agent86

@ickleislands y'know I can put you both in time-out. It works great for four year olds!

ickleislands

2:13 PM

@agent86 shrug, I had tabbed out to carry on with what I was doing and got highlighted

Mana

@ickleislands You don't have to respond to someone every time you get highlighted.

agent86

(I assume it works as well with whatever-year-olds you two are :P)

Wipqozn

If the cream in a Boston Cream doughnut wasn't made in Boston, is it really a Boston Cream doughnut?

ickleislands

@Mana straight out ignoring somebody who is talking directly to you is far more ignorant in my opinion

Ronan Forman

@agent86 Well if we're stopped from talking we can't talk, so yes.

@Wipqozn You mean the original or that particular one?

Wipqozn

2:16 PM

@RonanForman Any Boston Cream doughnut.

Mana

@ickleislands That's fair, but I more mean that if it's going to result in a good deal of hostile things being said I think you should just take a step back, calm down and then try to broach it in a less hostile way.

Wipqozn

The same goes for California Rolls, except with the entire roll, and not just part of the roll.

ickleislands

@Wipqozn a similar question is "Is a Cornish pasty not made in Cornwall still a Cornish pasty?"

@Wipqozn and they took that to court as a trademark dispute

Ronan Forman

@Wipqozn Is a Dyson vacuum cleaner not a Dyson if James didn't make it himself?

ickleislands

@Mana I'm calm, you don't have to be foaming at the mouth to call somebody an idiot

Wipqozn

2:17 PM

@RonanForman Yes, if it was made by someone else within the Dyson family. Like, come on Ronan, that's an easy one.

Mana

@ickleislands what I'm getting at is that you shouldn't be calling people idiots on this chatroom, man.

Ronan Forman

@Wipqozn I think you've missed the point.

Mana

Doing that is just going to make them more hostile towards you and make the conversation less productive.

RedRiderX

@RonanForman But Dyson told people to make it. I don't think the city of Boston has sanctioned all Boston Cream Doughnut makers.

Wipqozn

@RedRiderX Exactly!

Ronan Forman

2:19 PM

@RedRiderX You don't know that.

Wipqozn

See @RonanForman? it's a completely different situation!

ickleislands

@Mana "idiot", noun, an utterly foolish or senseless person -> perfectly valid after somebody makes a statement like the one preceding the comment, believing they know what they're talking about while getting every single fact in the statement wrong. I will leave it at that though.

RedRiderX

@RonanForman Ooooh, a conspiracy theory, I like it.

Wipqozn

Mana

@ickleislands and one that will obviously provoke them, leading to insults being thrown around, which is something we need to avoid here, please. But you're right, let's drop it.

RedRiderX

2:21 PM

@Wipqozn Where did you get the pastry in question?

Ronan Forman

Ooh, I just got messaged about a flag, have I hit 10k?

Wipqozn

@RedRiderX Tim Horton's.

If you don't know what that is you obviously don't live in Canada.

ickleislands

@RonanForman yes, gz

Mad Scientist

@RonanForman It's 10k network-wide and counts the association bonus

Wipqozn

@RonanForman It's network wide remember.

Ronan Forman

2:22 PM

@Wipqozn Yes, but I still didn't realise.

1002, nice.

RedRiderX

@Wipqozn That is exactly what I thought (fellow Canadian), and I was about to publicly denounce you if it wasn't. ;)

agent86

I probably should not have clicked that, it was way NSFW. good thing I have a privacy filter on my monitor...

Wipqozn

@RonanForman My word. Only 1,002 rep? That's kind of low.

Ronan Forman

@Wipqozn I know.

Wipqozn

@RedRiderX Understandable.

Ronan Forman

2:23 PM

@agent86 This is going to happen all the time isn't it.

Mana

@agent86 it wasn't waaaay NSFW, if you mean the one with the girl with the tight shirt on.

Wipqozn

@Mana That wasn't a shirt.

Mana

that...that wasn't a shirt?

oh.

Wipqozn

There you go.

Mana

scratches head sheepishly

Wipqozn

2:24 PM

I'd link you examples, but that would also be NSFW and I'm at work sooo :P

agent86

@Mana yeah, not... a shirt, man. there were no clothes on that woman.

just a bit of paint.

RedRiderX

But to continue with the conspiracy theory: Since Tim Hortons uses frozen doughnuts, it's almost in reason that they ship their Boston Cream Doughnuts from Boston.

Almost

Mana

@agent86 I realized that as soon as I sent the message.

and felt dumb.

it's a feeling I'm very, very used to by now.

Wipqozn

@agent86 Now now, you can't know that! She could have been wearing socks.

agent86

@Mana it's ok man, we still <3 you

Wipqozn

2:28 PM

@RedRiderX Oh, right. They do that now. They use to make them fresh back in the day.

agent86

@Wipqozn this is true, I had not considered the possibility of foot coverings.

Wipqozn

I don't visit Tim hortons enough to really notice a difference.

@agent86 Just remember what happens when you assume.

RedRiderX

@Wipqozn Me either, since they have been frozen for +6 years now.

Wipqozn

@RedRiderX Has it been that long? My oh my how times flies...

I don't drink coffee or tea though, so I rarely go to tim hortons for anything other than a bagel or breakfast sandwich.

RedRiderX

@Wipqozn Yeah I try not to smell the coffee when I do go in, I don't want the mental effects it brings.

Fluttershy

2:30 PM

Can I not enter the Bridge for one day without there being an argument in the backlog? >.>

RedRiderX

@Fluttershy This is the internet.

Ian Pugsley

@Fluttershy One day? Please, there's an argument every hour.

Wipqozn

@Fluttershy Don't worry, if there ever is I'll make sure to start one when I see you coming.

@RedRiderX Probably a good idea.

Fluttershy

@Wipqozn You're so sweet. >.>

Wipqozn

@Fluttershy I am a tortoise. We're gentle by nature.

Except the snapping ones. Those things will bite your face off.

Among other things...

agent86

2:32 PM

@Wipqozn did you see my turtle eating a raspberry video? it was cute.

Wipqozn

@agent86 I have not!

waits for link

Lazers

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Q: Is there any easteregg on Contra Hard Corps?

I was playing Contra Hard Corps on my Genesis 16 bit these days, and finished it in all possible ways, first going to the research center, etc.. In any possible way I could finish it, I finished. However, I like this game a lot, and I was thinking, is there any "easter egg" in this game, maybe ...

agent86

2 days ago, by agent86

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that turtle's like, MMM RASPBERRY

RedRiderX

@Wipqozn Well not if your... The Turtle Man!

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Fluttershy

Mario Marathon ended with us holding #5 in the Top Contributors... By $20. <.<

Wipqozn

2:37 PM

@Fluttershy Yes. Also, we had the highest average donation by a very, very wide margin.

The other ones just beat us out due to pure volume.

Fluttershy

@Wipqozn Yep. I'd call it a win. I'm just hoping it generated the traffic that I was hoping it would. =(

Wipqozn

@Fluttershy Even if it doesn't, we raised a bunch of money for charity.

and by "we" I of course mean everyone that donated.

QAdp

"donater"?

RedRiderX

@Wipqozn A 111k grand total! I'm amazed.

Wipqozn

@QAdp I'm not sure if this directed at me, so I'm just going to smile at you.

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pop quiz time everyone!

Fluttershy

2:45 PM

@Wipqozn Have you seen this yet?

Wipqozn

Of the three staple cheeses (Marble, Cheddar, and Mozzarella), which is the best one?

Keep in mind that there is only one correct answer.

Ronan Forman

@Wipqozn Red Leicester.

agent86

@Wipqozn monterey jack FTW, and I will hurt you if you disagree.

Wipqozn

@Fluttershy Someone should make a ten hour version of that and send it to Gnomeslice.

The three staple cheeses, jeez. you kids.

agent86

@Wipqozn I'll staple your cheese here in a minute

right to your turtle shell.

Ronan Forman

2:48 PM

@Wipqozn Red Leicester is a staple cheese.

Wipqozn

May 16 at 11:16, by Mana

shut up, I'm going to cram your turtle face into your turtle shell and toss it off a cliff.

agent86

THEN we'll see who is the cheesiest. although it will probably be you, what with the stapled cheese and all.

Wipqozn

@mana's turtle insults were better.

agent86

@Wipqozn psh. I scoff at this turtle insult. it's neither teenage nor mutant in its turtleness.

to say nothing of ninja.

Wipqozn

@agent86 It does mention ninja turtles, you just can't see it.

Fluttershy

2:50 PM

Oh, also @Wipqozn have you seen my new URL in my profile?

Wipqozn

@Fluttershy Zeus damn it. nicely played.

tips shell

agent86

luigi's mustache looks like he wrapped a bra around his head.

once you see it, you can't unsee it :(

Wipqozn

@agent86 That's Luigi for ya, getting all the ladies.

QAdp

@agent86 thank you

Wipqozn

@Wipqozn whoa, I just thought of something...

RedRiderX

2:54 PM

@agent86 This is way worse than the rickroll...

Wipqozn

I'll need to test this.

I was right!

The alt-text for the reply arrow always displays "This is a reply to an earlier message", even when you're replying to a message from the future!

posts bug report on MSO

Lazers

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Q: Tag Synonym: [wireless], [network] -> [networking]

Can we get wireless added as a synonym of networking? (Looking through wireless there are some questions that just need re-tagging) In addition would it be possible to do the same with network? There are only three questions under network that would be fine under networking.

discussion tag-synonyms

StrixVaria

Why are all Guitar Hero games clustered under an umbrella series tag guitar-hero, which also shares a name with the first game in the series?

That is so bad :(

agent86

2

here's adventure time mega man, which might cheer you up.

Wipqozn

@StrixVaria Because everyone on the site wants you to be miserable.

Sterno

3:06 PM

@agent86 NSFW

agent86

@Sterno is it the mega man part, or the adventure time part that's NSFW?

Sterno

@agent86 They just look a little too happy

StrixVaria

@Wipqozn is disappointed that you didn't actually do this

agent86

@Sterno happiness is NSFW where you work? that's sad :(

Wipqozn

@StrixVaria It's very tempting.

You know, every time I see this (10k only) answer, I rage a bit on the inside.

Fluttershy

3:25 PM

@Wipqozn Hate you.

Wipqozn

@Fluttershy Oh you non-10kers, so adorable.

Lazers

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Q: Does a wizard's lightning hydra proc the paralysis passive?

As title, do the lightning hydras proc the passive to stun mobs?

diablo-3

Jason Berkan

@Fluttershy IIRC it was a non-answer - "Keep playing and you'll find out", or something like that.

user15026

@Wipqozn It irritates the crap out of me, especially the bit about "it being more acceptable on Gaming" to give crap answer

Wipqozn

@JasonBerkan Not quite.

rage worthy part:

> I know this is a "crowd-pleasing non-answer" but I'm under the impression such answers are slightly more acceptable on gaming.SE than on SO. I guess I'll be flamed to hell if not, and then I'll get to join Satan's guild of trollish/annoying players. Hooray

@AshleyNunn Yes.

Jason Berkan

3:33 PM

@Wipqozn Ah - something I never saw then.

Wipqozn

@JasonBerkan There are 7 deleted "answers" on that question, so it's no surprise you missed one or two :P

Jason Berkan

@Wipqozn Wow.

Wipqozn

It would probably have more if bwarner didn't protect it.

user15026

3:48 PM

I am rather glad I was around for all the decisions for/against ITG. Between that, and my experience on Literature.SE, I am well versed in how not-awesome "Identify this thing" questions are, and I can be like "Listen, Libraries, we do not want to become an "identify this book" engine."

Wipqozn

@AshleyNunn Libraries?