The Bridge

Unionhawk

3:03 PM

woo vacation day on 11/8 planned

Yuuki

Hoo boy, how to fix this off-by-one error...

Tim Stone

Subtract two just in case there's another off-by-one

Private Pansy

@Yuuki + 1 BOOM SOLVED

I'm so good at this programming thing - look at me solving the hardest computer science problems

Unionhawk

Kaspersky releases details of internal inv.; says it uploaded NSA files after workr got infected frm pirated softwre http://bit.ly/2yKE96D

Tweeted by KimZetter on October 25, 2017 at 12:29 PM

holy shit

Tim Stone

No ur fine

Yuuki

3:09 PM

Actually, I'm not sure if this counts as an off-by-one error.

But essentially the last value in this array isn't being dealt with because of boundary issues.

Private Pansy

Sounds like a typical off-by-one error

fredley

@PrivatePansy Now write a cache invalidation algorithm pls

Unionhawk

foreach(var thing in cache){ thing.invalid = true }

Private Pansy

@fredley while (notWorking) deleteCache(); BOOM SOLVED

fredley

@PrivatePansy omg, it's amazing

11/10 algorithm

Avery

3:13 PM

@Unionhawk lmao nice

Unionhawk

@Avery You know in addition to having classified malware on his personal computer in the first place

Yuuki

3:29 PM

@fredley dollar = hungarianPengo1946;

cc @GodEmperorDune @Wipqozn @Ash

GodEmperorDune

404 refrance not found

Yuuki

@GodEmperorDune The 1946 Hungarian pengo is the case of the most hyperinflated currency in history.

For context, Zimbabwe's highest inflation is currently pegged at 231,000,000%. Peak Month and Rate of Inflation in Hungary: Jul. 1946, 41.9 quadrillion percent

Unionhawk

To be fair 1946 was a volatile time in history

Yuuki

They had a 10^20 banknote.

@GodEmperorDune tl;dr cash invalidation

Unionhawk

/delete Yuuki

GodEmperorDune

3:37 PM

@Yuuki so Hungarian pengo was an incremental?

Yuuki

Okay, my stat for Zimbabwe was inaccurate.

Peak Month and Rate of Inflation in Zimbabwe: Mid-Nov. 2008, 79.6 billion percent

Much higher but still not Hungary 1946 high.

cazc_941

4:02 PM

macleans.ca/education/…

Cc other Ontarians

cazc_941

4:16 PM

So blessed to have important news delivered directly to my device daily in 2017

NSFW

Technology is incredible

Yuuki

Hmm... food time.

Well, food decision time.

Oh yeah, I decided on Whataburger.

Moacir

@Yuuki A day you dont decide to eat revolver sushi is a day you decided wrong

MadMAxJr

As opposed to fully automatic sushi?

Unionhawk

fully automated luxury space sushi

Avery

@cazc_941 this is kinda great

Moacir

4:30 PM

Yuuki mentioned revolving sushi some days ago. I misread but revolver > revolving

Yuuki

Yeah, if you weren't convinced yet, today's frontpage shows that /r/OldSchoolCool has become "find black-and-white photos of scantily clad women".

cazc_941

4:47 PM

Thank you for making that into something nobody will click now, whoever edited

Lazers 2.0

0

Q: Street Fighter V Character Unlock with Arcade Edition free Upgrade

With the update that will include de Arcade Mode and extra content, it will be necesary to buy the Arcade Edition to unlock the Season 1 & 2 characters or the characters will be unlocked for those who already have the Standard Edition with the upgrade? Just to know if I buy the Standard Edition ...

street-fighter-v

Moacir

@cazc_941 what?

Yuuki

@cazc_941 I mean, it's ostensibly a picture of dressed up penises. If I was posting that, I'd put it behind a text link.

Verdict: Whataburger's new chorizo burger is pretty good, but it could definitely use more chorizo and perhaps less beef.

user15026

@Yuuki Okay, yeah, if that's what that is, then it needs some sort of NSFW warning.

Yuuki

Maybe "Technically NSFW: ostensibly picture of dressed up penises but it's kinda hard to tell unless you read the title".

In any case, that's something that should be obvious that you do yourself.

Avery

5:00 PM

@Yuuki well I believe they're just using bananas as replacements

user15026

I need to stop thinking that the 26th is a Friday, I keep panicking because the work tech calendar doesn't show the jobs I expect (because that's a Thursday and my jobs are scheduled for Friday)

Yuuki

@Avery I mean, judging by the picture and its title alone, my assumption is that those are penises.

And I'm pretty sure that would be the assumption of your boss.

user15026

Yeah, considering the title in large words in the middle...

Avery

@Yuuki I mean I'm not sure how snap inc. would feel about them using real human genitalia on their snap news things, and it kinda looks too much like a banana. But yeah I did read the title.

(I'm not disagreeing that it should be behind a text link btw)

Unionhawk

5:18 PM

watching videos on the social features of our intranet site that nobody uses send help

send heeeeeeelp

MadMAxJr

Here's a ladder.

Unionhawk

Google Assistant (🇺🇸) vs Yandex Assistant (🇷🇺) Top: Self-explanatory Bottom: -“I’m sad,” -“Nobody promised you that things would be easy”

Tweeted by NoToNihilism on October 25, 2017 at 1:06 AM

MadMAxJr

Steam Assistant: "I'm sad." "Get Rekt."

Avery

Assassin's Creed Origins - Gift Of The Medjay (Jimpressions)

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people who watched that ^, did you feel like he was biased too?

He hates most stuff he said that the game has and he hates ubisoft... but he loves the series and it's a review copy, and he didn't go all ranty about the game, but if it was any other game that did the stuff this game did (lootboxes with in game cash, you can buy ingame cash, repetitive "AAA" map, tiered stuff [gold edition etc] and preorder bonuses).

Yuuki

5:51 PM

@Avery Jim Sterling is terrible reviewer confirmed. /s

Question, did he sound more angry in his Breath of the Wild review?

Unionhawk

nick robinson it takes a full day in any core game to shake apples from the same tree again you fucking troglodyte bitch idiot https://twitter.com/Babylonian/status/923027874616971264

Tweeted by regisword on October 25, 2017 at 4:12 AM

Yuuki

If so, then yes that's bias.

Unionhawk

1) this guy still exists? 2) yeah complaining about timers in literal animal crossing is...

Yuuki

Animal Crossing is technically an energy-based mobile game without the energy.

Or rather the energy refills and payments and microtransactions.

Which I guess makes Animal Crossing microtransactions more like cheat codes than they are in other games.

Avery

and random video ads about mobile strike

and 3d fidget spinner launchers

Yuuki

5:56 PM

I mean, there are probably things to criticize about the Animal Crossing mobile game but 3 hour timers on getting apples from trees is not one of them.

Unionhawk

No

That's like

A mechanic of the game

As it has been for years

Avery

(SPONSORED VIDEO) CM Launcher 3D Fidget Spinner app review

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^ this is what I'm talking about

Yuuki

Or maybe Nick Robinson thinks the upcoming surge in apple production will result in a global crash of the fruit market and thus collapse the food commodities ending in a short-term economic disaster and that's what's bleak.

Avery

also

Unionhawk

who knows

MadMAxJr

6:05 PM

I recall playing AC:NL, planting trees, making a few small developments, then inviting a veteran friend over to look at my town.

They promptly cut down most of my trees because they were 'wrong' and planted perfect fruit trees in a structured grid pattern and left letters to all the squirrels in my town that just read, "SOON."

Lazers 2.0

0

Q: FEH: Better to unlock potential, then merge duplicate units?

When you unlock potential for a merged unit, all the merge bonus stats gets lost because you reset to the base stat of the new rank. I have a few duplicate characters. I'm wondering if I should unlock potential to 5 star, then merge all the 3,4 star duplicates into the 5 star. Or should I keep ...

fire-emblem-heroes

Yuuki

Bright | Official Trailer 2 [HD] | Netflix

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I really should transfer my Humble Monthly subscription over to Netflix.

Avery

netflix is good.

Yuuki

I used to have it but then stopped when I graduated.

Actually I stopped before I graduated.

I think it was a month or so after I finished my first internship.

Moacir

@MadMAxJr I never modified other peoples town, but I used to dump crowns on them

Yuuki

6:14 PM

@MadMAxJr Ew, structured grid pattern.

Efficient but ugly.

Efficiently butt-ugly.

MadMAxJr

"What did my squirrels do?" "THEY KNOW."

Arperum

Fuck me. Starting friday the tapwater will not be good for consumption for an expected two weeks.

MadMAxJr

The perfect fruits went for a tidy profit, I didn't mind too much.

Arperum

Want to brush your teeth? go coock water for five minutes first, let it cool, and finally brush your teeth.

Fluttershy

Anyone here have much experience with PC Parts Picker?

Unionhawk

6:19 PM

@Arperum I'm normally not a fan of bottled water however in cases of literal tapwater outages it's a thing

Yuuki

@Arperum Go cock water? ಠ_ಠ

Unionhawk

/androidhell yuuki

Arperum

@Yuuki I'M SORRY ENGLISH IS MY THIRD LANGUAGE.

@Yuuki Also, there are 2 o's.

Moacir

@MadMAxJr There is a point where money become irrelevant in NL. Then what gets you going are the complete and seasonal sets

And then money go out like crazy

Arperum

@Unionhawk There is tapwater maintenance stuff.

Moacir

6:21 PM

Not money, bells, but same thing

I got that complete set of cardboard thing

I love how hard it was to get my house to look like shit

MadMAxJr

Once you have enough money in the bank, you just let interest do its thing

Arperum

bottled water very much depends on the brand. There are a couple distinct flavors here. One of them is atrocious. the other one tastes like the tapwater.

Moacir

@MadMAxJr It has a cap tho

Thats why you invest in crowns

MadMAxJr

I figure I'll just get into organized crime with the Nook family.

His real-estate racket seems pretty profitable

Moacir

Crowns are the Stone of Jordan of AC:NL

user15026

6:25 PM

@MadMAxJr whaaaat

Lazers 2.0

-1

Q: Getting error message on Minecraft launcher

I'm getting this: Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM warning: Using incremental CMS is deprecated and will likely be removed in a future release Error: Could not find or load main class net.minecraft.client.main.Main I have an upgraded java and it was working earlier. I have been on Mojang website...

minecraft-server

Yuuki

@Moacir I always wondered why Stones of Jordans were used as currency if they were so easily and often duplicated.

Moacir

Also I need to log in on my town but I fear that Olivia may have moved out

Yuuki

It's like basing your currency on bits of printer paper.

Moacir

@Yuuki Same reason as crowns

It basically allows you to carry more money at once

Even tho it may be duped, the value is the same

Now, if you mean like "How SoJ didnt lose its value" I have no idea

At AC:NL you can sell them to vendors for its price, but SoJ was totally player based

Yuuki

6:28 PM

I mean, the difference is that crowns can be vendored for a lot of money, right?

Moacir

@Yuuki Yep

Even more if you go to a town that is buying hats

Or have a good streetpass setup

(Or homepass)

Lazers 2.0

-1

Q: how do you get to be in a war in clash of clans?

how do you get in a war in COC

clash-of-clans

Yuuki

Question, what is the season in a game's season pass?

Like for an amusement park or sports, a season pass is typically a year.

DanmakuGrazer

Whatever the developer decides

ToxicFrog

^

Moacir

6:41 PM

A season pass for games is around 3 dlc's

But what Dan said

Its like labeling a game as GOTY

ToxicFrog

Usually, but not always, "until we stop releasing DLC", "the first year of DLC", or "some specific set of high-value (i.e. plot) DLC"

But it's not a well-defined term.

Moacir

At least shadow of war called it "Expansion pass"

Unionhawk

Yeah, most often it's all DLC, but like Elite Dangerous: Horizons is just 2.x content

(presumably there will be 3.x stuff but idk)

Sterno

@USATODAY I'm excited to watch the 2030 Netflix docudrama about the Amazon Key murders

Tweeted by larlibarrett on October 25, 2017 at 12:57 PM in reply to USATODAY

Yuuki

@Sterno Oh hey, another service that I'm not signing up for.

In any case, the US seems like the wrong country to public beta this.

Maybe Canada would work better.

Unionhawk

6:45 PM

5 hours ago, by Tim Stone

Why the Future Could Mean Delivery Straight Into Your Fridge

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Yuuki

@Unionhawk Delivery [of your body] straight into your fridge.

Moacir

I would rather build a delivery room

Sterno

Aren't all the doors in Canada unlocked anyway?

Moacir

Like an outhouse but for packages

user15026

@Yuuki There is no way in God's green earth I'd let a delivery person into my house

Moacir

6:46 PM

Leave it unlocked, when the delivery guys come, they lock it

Like a glorified mailbox

user15026

@Moacir Except if this is intended for like perishable groceries, you'd need a fridge or whatever in it

Moacir

@Ash I would rather have a fridge outside

But I dont see me buying perishable things via internet

Arperum

@fredley :(

Moacir

Not yet at least

Unionhawk

Like yes there is a use case for paying somebody to buy groceries and put them away for you and such, I do not trust Walmart for these things

Arperum

6:49 PM

Tbf, I did stop using it somewhere last year I think, since it bugged out with the version of firefox I was using, and the firefox dev console did all the things just as good.

Sterno

@Unionhawk That's because you're somethingist

user15026

I'd just be hella uncomfortable with anyone going into my house without me there but I am hella uncomfortable with people in my house that I don't know well even if I am home, so.

ToxicFrog

^

user15026

@Sterno classist, would be my guess

Sterno

Plus, they'd totally put the eggs in the wrong spot. TOP LEFT, NOT TOP RIGHT, WAL-MART GUY

Unionhawk

6:50 PM

@Sterno I am against megacorps being in my house

Sterno

Honestly it's just as bad for delivery people in this scenario

I would not want to be the female who is supposed to go deliver stuff inside a strange house

I mean, the guy either, really

The Mattbat999

I wonder if Arqde might have an election soon or not...

Yuuki

@Moacir I mean, the impending threat of the Fallout series becoming reality means that technically everything you buy is perishable.

user15026

@TheMattbat999 Hihghly unlikely.

Moacir

@Yuuki That's planned obsolescence, right?

user15026

6:51 PM

They only happen as needed.

Yuuki

@Ash I mean, I'm uncomfortable with people I know in my house.

Sterno

@Yuuki stocking up on bottle caps

Yuuki

Sometimes, I'm uncomfortable with myself being in my house.

The Mattbat999

@Ash ok

user15026

@Yuuki I am getting better at that but since I have a small basement apartment people don't generally want to come over :P

Yuuki

6:52 PM

Although that last part has only occurred when there was three inches of water in the house.

So I guess technically not really a social anxiety thing.

user15026

@Sterno Yeah, the whole thing is uncomfortable no matter what side you're on

The Mattbat999

@Sterno I have enough ammo and weapons to survive 2 fallout ganes

Lazers 2.0

0

Q: What is the range of the target decelerator?

The target decelerator simply says "reduces your currently locked target's speed". What is the effective range of this effect? If I lock a target that's 5km away, will it reduce their speed at that range?

everspace

user15026

@Yuuki No, not really, but totally understandable

quartata

@TheMattbat999 but can you drink bullets

The Mattbat999

6:54 PM

@quartata no but we have a well

Unionhawk

mmm irradiated water

The Mattbat999

@Unionhawk exactly. We mainly got it because the tap water we get is white

Like the color

user15026

@Unionhawk hey, there was a time when delicious radium water was the thing to do

Kevin van der Velden

And trepanning was also a thing that was done

user15026

@KevinvanderVelden technically sometimes we still do that for things

Yuuki

6:58 PM

Yeah and eating cinchona bark to cure malaria was a thing that was done.

I mean, I think we still do that.

But we used to do that too.

Kevin van der Velden

@Ash I mean, we sometimes have to make a hole in a skull to do surgery, not to let the bad humors out

user15026

@KevinvanderVelden well, yes

Yuuki

@KevinvanderVelden Well, sometimes it's to let the bad tumors out.

So close enough?

user15026

Like the holes in my skull!

user15026

(okay no not tumors but still there are holes)

Kevin van der Velden

7:00 PM

@Yuuki no

Yuuki

@KevinvanderVelden Come on, it's a letter off.

Kevin van der Velden

@Ash yes but they're not for letting bad humors out =p

user15026

(the holes have tubes and valves in but they're holes)

Yuuki

It's like the difference between "Waters" and "Watters".

user15026

@KevinvanderVelden it depends what you think of my sense of humor I suppose

Kevin van der Velden

7:01 PM

My skullholes are for looking and breathing, and nerve endings I suppose

> Humorism, or humoralism, was a system of medicine detailing the makeup and workings of the human body, adopted by Ancient Greek and Roman physicians and philosophers, positing that an excess or deficiency of any of four distinct bodily fluids in a person—known as humors or humours—directly influences their temperament and health.

Unionhawk

Have you ever thought "I like coffee and I like smoking a pipe and I wish there were a way to combine these two things in a hyperportable coffee experience"? Then uh, why

Kevin van der Velden

And no, spinal fluid is not one of them!

Unionhawk

cc @fredley I guess

Avery

@Unionhawk too ™ for me

fredley

@Unionhawk No

Unionhawk

7:03 PM

Yeah you're right

This is one of the more inexplicable commercial products I've seen

Yuuki

@Unionhawk I don't imagine that this is enough coffee for the people who like coffee.

RedRiderX

@ave I've found something to surpass ~~metal gear~~ ~~fidget spinners~~ ~~google fixie~~:

Yuuki

And perhaps not enough vapor/smoke/whatever for the people who like smoking pipes.

RedRiderX

Unionhawk

Because using a french press while camping is too normal

Avery

7:05 PM

@RedRiderX nice.

MadMAxJr

Google Fridge. Soon to be full of Google Drink.

MBraedley

@Unionhawk Who wants to drink coffee through a straw? That's basically what this is.

Unionhawk

The two guys promoting it

That's who

Everybody else uses a french press and a cup or something

MBraedley

Well, they're idiots.

Unionhawk

like a civilized human being

Arperum

7:10 PM

@Unionhawk No, those don't drink coffee, those drink tea.

Unionhawk

or like one of these guys

MBraedley

I'm probably going to switch to an Aeropress. I haven't really enjoyed any of cups I've made with a French press.

Unionhawk

We usually use a percolator camping but a french press backpacking

Avery

lmao

they launched a turkish search engine apparently.

it's based on bing data

Unionhawk

although one person has a portable espresso monstrosity that he brought backpacking so that's also a thing

Yuuki

7:14 PM

I like the smell of coffee, I have yet to find a cup of coffee that I'm willing to drink without two creams and like three sugars.

Unionhawk

This is why I do black coffee becuase it's easy to calibrate the right cream and sugar: 0

Yuuki

And even then, I feel like my lungs are collapsing or my heart is going to explode.

Unionhawk

That's how you know it's working

MBraedley

@Yuuki You should look into cold brew.

Fluttershy

@Nzall Looks like the bans were legitimate bans. Bungie says every ban is handed out after a manual investigation. So the people claiming they were banned for no reason are lying, according to Bungie.

Arperum

7:20 PM

@Fluttershy Based on the amount of news about it that's a lot of manual investigations...

Fluttershy

@Arperum It's also possible Bungie is lying to cover up an embarrassing launch bug. But my tinfoil hat is in the washer today. :P

user15026

@Yuuki same, but I also am really caffeine sensitive so maybe finding more ways to enjoy coffee is not a thing I should be doing

user15026

@Fluttershy your poor washing machine

Yuuki

@Ash I mean, supposedly tea has more caffeine than coffee but I don't have the same problems with tea.

murgatroid99

One possibility my friend suggested regarding this Destiny 2 issue is that it may actually be code in Battle.net and not Destiny 2 that is doing this

Yuuki

7:22 PM

@murgatroid99 Or Battle.net and Destiny 2 interacting.

user15026

@KevinvanderVelden grins Alright, alright

Yuuki

Because Destiny 2 is not a Blizzard game.

RedRiderX

ANIMAL CROSSING: Pocket Camp AHOY w/ Griffin and Russ

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user15026

@Yuuki I don't drink a lot of non-herbal teas lately

Yuuki

And Blizzard originally made Battle.net as a launcher only for Blizzard games.

murgatroid99

7:23 PM

@Yuuki But it's run from the Battle.net launcher, right?

Yuuki

@murgatroid99 Exactly.

Fluttershy

bungie.net/en/News/Article/46426

There's Bungie's official response.

Kevin van der Velden

Hmm, adding 2 horsepower worth of fans to your pc case is pretty good for cooling

murgatroid99

Does Destiny 2 on PC use Battle.net for multiplayer?

Moacir

@murgatroid99 The client, not the servers

Blizz does the authentication/validation and pass that to the server afaik

murgatroid99

7:29 PM

So, what if these people aren't getting automatically banned from Destiny, and instead they're getting automatically banned from Battle.net?

Moacir

@murgatroid99 I think blizz has no power to ban people. Just like "Hey, this is one of your guys, do your job"

And then bungie servers"Hey wait a minute, this guy is doing SOMETHING, banhammer applied"

Yuuki

cc @GodEmperorDune @Wipqozn @Ash

user15026

I'm missing something here

Yuuki

It's a stop sine.

user15026

facepalm

murgatroid99

7:32 PM

@Moacir When you say they have "no power" to ban people, do you mean that they don't have the authority to ban people, or that they are actually incapable of making specific users unable to use the Destiny 2 client?

Moacir

@murgatroid99 the later

On theory at least

Yuuki

@Ash :D

Moacir

@murgatroid99 For example, if I issue a chargeback, I think I get banned from battle.net

So, I may never get banned on destiny 2 but yet have no access to it

murgatroid99

@Moacir Which means they do have that power

Moacir

They have a different power

fredley

7:33 PM

Yessssssssssss

Moacir

They have a roadblock, and bungie has the speed limit radars

Its not the one people are complaining

murgatroid99

@Moacir The whole point I'm making here is that this problem may be caused by Battle.net putting up those roadblocks incorrectly

Moacir

@murgatroid99 You are not understanding my analogy

Lazers 2.0

-1

Q: Badges In Destiny 2 Crucible

While playing the Crucible PvP in Destiny 2, I keep getting these badges in the top center of my screen. They're obviously for doing things, like getting a double kill. But some of them are quite confusing. Ones such as, "I Live here Now", and, "Wrecking Crew", confuse me. Then there's also the y...

destiny-2

Moacir

Or I made a bad one

either way... Battle.net can ban the access to battle.net

Battle.net cannot issue bans to bungie servers

Bungie apply bans to bungie, not battle.net

However you need to use battle.net to access bungie

So technically you can be banned at 2 places

The bans people are receiving originate from bungie

murgatroid99

7:37 PM

@Moacir how do you know?

Chippies

@murgatroid99 people can still use battle.net

Moacir

^

Chippies

(from what I'm getting from this conversation without knowing any details of the actual incident)

murgatroid99

So, battle.net has no per-game ban functionality?

Yuuki

I'm not certain Battle.net has a ban functionality.

Moacir

7:38 PM

@Chippies murgatroid9 has a theory that battle.net is in the wrongs here and its the responsible for all the bans

@Yuuki I think you get your access revoked if you do a chargeback on a credit card or something

Chippies

@murgatroid99 destiny is not a blizzard game. Blizzard owns battle.net. Battle.net is only used as a launcher platform for Destiny 2

Moacir

While its technically a ban, its not the same ban

Chippies

kinda like Steam is the platform for all non-valve games

Yuuki

@Chippies Which for the future of gaming is all games.

murgatroid99

Well, it looks like people are generally accepting Bungie's explanation, so I guess the point is moot anyway

Chippies

7:41 PM

huh, just found out that the long edges of ipad mini 4 are magnetic

I wonder what the purpose for it is

Moacir

I'm still not in favor of blanket bans

Unionhawk

I for one cannot believe that somebody would just go on reddit and lie about a popular AAA game

Moacir

If you are banned, a reason must be provided

Chippies

@Chippies apparently it's for magnetic cases. TIL

Moacir

And "we do not discuss bans" policy is bullshit

Chippies

7:42 PM

@Moacir I can see both sides of the argument

by providing a reason you can look for/find loopholes and/or make up lies to get around the ban

so not providing a reason is good for the company

Moacir

@Chippies The right for defense is a thing. May not be applied to online games, but it should

Fluttershy

Correct. Blizzard Support has been directing banned players ticketing them to Bungie, because they have no power over Destiny 2 bans.

Chippies

welp, I'll go play some more Destiny 2 before I gotta have a nap before work

my work colleague is already lv20 ._.

Moacir

Btw, they say the bans are applied for players that were banned during beta

Which they could have worded better. "They cheat in beta so when they buy the game they are banned" or "They cheat in beta and tried to cheat again after buying the game"

Chippies

@Moacir I can't say I totally disagree with it, but they should at least offer a refund for those who preordered after the beta

Avery

7:45 PM

@Chippies yeah exactly

Unionhawk

They did say they have lifted 4 beta bans

idk how many beta bans there were total

Fluttershy

@Chippies How are you enjoying it, btw?

Unionhawk

But if you're going to cheat and get banned in a free beta, then buy the game expecting to be unbanned, then uh

my friend

Chippies

@Fluttershy it's quite enjoyable so far, although it's not super amazingly fun, but good nonetheless

Moacir

The beta is there for beta testing

Chippies

7:47 PM

I'm lv11 and on 3rd planet and it seems like it's all the same

Moacir

While I wouldn't cheat on an online game, I get why people would try it on a beta

Chippies

like, there could be more mob variety at least

@Fluttershy when do I unlock the 2nd subclass?

Yuuki

@Moacir Public beta these days is almost never for bug testing.

At the very least, that's not the primary purpose.

Chippies

I do find Cayde-6 a fun character though, I hope there's more of him in the future missions

Yuuki

Public beta is for two things: 1) marketing and 2) load testing.

Unionhawk

7:49 PM

yep

Fluttershy

@Chippies Nessus, right? You'll meet a new one on the last planet. As for the second subclass, you'll find a sort of token that will grant you access to the shard again. I got mine from an event chest.

Unionhawk

Bugs are gone by the time public beta exists

Yuuki

Bugs are never gone.

Moacir

Anyway

Unionhawk

THEN HOW DO YOU EXPLAIN @twobugs NOT BEING HERE

Yuuki

7:49 PM

But all the bugs that they feel like spending time on before release are gone.

Chippies

@Fluttershy a new one? You mean a new character? I'm guessing the warlock-lady

Moacir

I think beta's should have its own database that is PURGED when they launch

That includes ban

Chippies

@Fluttershy so, getting the subclass is sort of a random drop?

Yuuki

Any bugs reported during public beta won't push back the release date unless it's majorly gamebreaking.

Unionhawk

And I think that if you cheat in a multiplayer game you can get rekt forever

Chippies

7:50 PM

@Moacir on the other hand, if you were trying to ruin other people experience in a beta, you probably will in the full game as well

especially considering how there was pretty much no single player content in the beta

Yuuki

I find it annoying that I have to repeat the tutorial for the other two classes. Can I please just skip ahead to the Farm?

Moacir

@Chippies The point is: It is not clear if they blanket ban those players or not, because there is no appeal on bans

Why not a strike system, even with only one strike

Yuuki

How do you know there isn't one?

Unionhawk

If you cheat in a multiplayer game you deserve to be permanently banned with no appeal, period

Moacir

@Yuuki Because they do not discuss bans

Unionhawk

7:54 PM

Some games get this right

Other games do not

Yuuki

@Moacir Maybe it depends on the offense?

Also, just because they don't discuss bans doesn't mean there's no strike system.

Moacir

Does it matter if there is a strike system if you never know if you have a strike?

Yuuki

I'm pretty sure we (read: SE) don't discuss bans and I'm also fairly certain there's a strike system.

@Moacir There's a difference between discussing bans publicly and contacting the person being banned.

Moacir

Look, I didn't even have plans to get destiny, I just think its shady

I'm not saying that all the ones that "claimed" to be banned were really banned

Or if they are actually cheaters and are trying to make a fuss

Chippies

@Fluttershy speaking of subclass token - I just got one

Yuuki

7:57 PM

I don't think it's shady at all. Not discussing bans publicly is a good thing. Because I don't think it helps anyone if I know exactly why <certain person> was banned.

Moacir

I just think a "We do not discuss bans" a stupid policy. It has its reasons, I get it, but the customer has the right to do what caused it

Yuuki

"We don't discuss bans" is also an SE policy.

So if you think it's shady, maybe you should bring it up on Meta.SE.

Moacir

They do not discuss it openly or with the person?

Because there is a difference there

If tomorrow I get banned, will I know why I was banned?

user15026

@Yuuki Slightly different - user knows why they got banned, generally, we just don't announce it all over

Moacir

Thats the key point

Bungie do not discuss bans at all

Yuuki

7:58 PM

If Bungie is banning people without telling them why, there's a secondary reason for that.

If someone is told that they were banned for cheating, then the cheat makers now know that they need to fix something.

Moacir

@Yuuki What if you get banned and dont know what caused it?

You are saying its ok to arrest everyone because some people are criminals

Unionhawk

When you get banned in Overwatch, Jeff actually comes to your house and says "get out of my game" before throwing you and your computer out a window

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