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we want a knowledgebase for people to read later

Downvoter

4:20 PM

@serg, this is not a discussion forum

ask once, read many

serg555

there QA sites out there

Downvoter

that's the answer

most discussion questions are ask once read once

serg555

i think if there is a question with 100 votes, 100 answers and 100 favs it should stay open, as long as it is gaming related.

serg555

4:22 PM

community clearly likes it

Doesn't have to be necessarily, if they don't follow the guidelines

which question are we talking about here?

serg555

what are quidlines for?

@serg555 You can't try to be everything

Q: Is there a game like Port of Call that runs natively on Linux?

good:

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I remember there was a game called Port of Call which allowed the management of ships to take on goods and bring them to destinations. Is there anything like this available running natively on Linux? I just remember that the first time I saw it was on Amiga.

serg555

i can try, if nobody will try to stop me

Q: What are some good "turn-based tactics" titles for the PC?

4:23 PM

bad:

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I've always loved "turn-based tactical" games, the kind that are played on a grid. Some examples of my favorites from this genre are: Shining Force series Final Fantasy Tactics series Advance Wars series Fire Emblem series However, I haven't seen new games of this type in years, and I seem t...

pc game-rec turn-based-strategy

@serg555 ... and you will fail

serg555

yeah, and for some reason "bad" has 6/14 and "good" has 1/0. doesn't look "good"

Downvoter

Should I add the feed for meta too?

yeah

@serg votes are not a unanimous figure that describes the quality of the question

serg555

but closing votes are?

4:25 PM

5 of them are

serg555

and 100 upvotes are not?

A question can be a great question, but not be on topic

if there are 5 people with 500+ rep who think it's off-topic and none to re-open, no

serg555

so are we just trying to stay on topic just to stay on topic?

that's a system that's worked well for SOFU for years

no, we're trying to stay on topic in order to become a userbase

erm

knowledgebase

4:26 PM

you are on topic, when you are on topic.

an ask once/read many system

as I said before

We're trying to stay on topic to be a great site for Q&A which is the stated purpose.

serg555

so "what is your fav game" is no a question?

not one relevant to a global audience

serg555

what if it has 10 votes etc?

serg555

4:28 PM

1000 i mean

it is a good discussion/poll, not a good question.

then that number of people upvoted it

that's all there is to it

serg555

what are you discussing exactly? i am just posting my fav games

Downvoter

@serg, are you trolling?

serg555

no, are you?

Downvoter

4:30 PM

voting to close requires more trust from the system

Downvoter

upvoting less

Downvoter

so yes, close votes weigh more than upvotes

he is, to explore the limits, for the betterment of the site

serg555

i find it disrespectful to th community when 4 closing votes are closing question with 100 upvotes

Then vote to reopen

Downvoter

4:31 PM

Refer to the FAQ on how the system works please

serg555

what is i want it to work differently

serg555

*if

then you're in the wrong place, this system has worked like this for years

serg555

does it mean it is perfect and no changes should be ever made?

Q&A is not a forum.

4:33 PM

no, of course not

you are free to discuss that on meta.stackoverflow.com

serg555

anyway, les drop it. we are just arguing now for the sake of arguing

arguing let's you think about stuff you haven't before, if done with respect from and to both sides

without discussion nothing would ever be improved :-)

serg555

unless they call you a troll

Downvoter

It was a question

serg555

4:35 PM

what did you expect to hear?

either yes or no, I would think

Downvoter

the way you reacted made me think you were not trolling, so exactly that

A: Why do you need a SS for some Korean games?

the answer could've been: yes, sorry about that.

hmm... why do i always post good answers....

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The reason behind this is the Korean "Cyber defamation law" forbidding users from making anonymous comments. One way of ensuring this requirement is for game developpers to couple each account to a uniquely identifiable attribute for each person, in this case, the social security number.

It gets interesting when I leave for a few minutes.

@alex that's an interesting question

/me votes to close as subjective :-)

4:40 PM

The new users are increasing in volume.

hmm... bigger users?

That would be mass, alex ;-)

size != mass, volume == size

Downvoter

we have 863

Downvoter

in the private beta we were a little more than 300

4:43 PM

it's simple, we need more users who play games other users play too

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Q: Relaxing games for PS2?

Can you suggest any relaxing sort of games for the PS2? I have these already and thought them chillaxfull : Katamari Damacy Shadow of the Colossus

ps2 relaxing

bad question!

'chillaxfull'?

seriously?

Downvoter

I voted to close

I closed it

I did too, was my last close vote.

Downvoter

4:45 PM

rlb.usa is posting some questionable questions (sic)

why sic?

our question counter is going to get skewed with the amount of closing around here

true

@Ivo Better close 100 now that 10k in 3 months.

Downvoter

are closed ones counted too?

4:47 PM

I'd say we're the most critical proposal out there

don't know @Juan & you're absolutely right @Macha

I would have even preferred to set these things straight before we even went into private beta

but I figure this works too

Userbase was better then ;-)

Downvoter

yeah, I feel we wasted the whole week

though perhaps area51 should simply be real questions

no answers, just questions

and then discuss

We didn't really see the problem until near the end of the private beta.

well you can't predict or prevent everything

and we haven't ironed out every discussion point for the FAQ

Downvoter

4:49 PM

true

and probably it's a moving average as well, people will change their mind with great counter-examples

Downvoter

we need to steer it into the right direction

Guess what happens when we only saw the problem at the end of 1 week public beta... chaos.

strange I thought I suggested to have a look at gameover.com

as a domain name

Site down for maintenance.

hmm...

4:55 PM

Interesting observation: The more involved you are in the site, the more you are in favour of closing. If you gave close votes to people with 200 rep on SO, I bet most of them wouldn't use them much.

might be buyable

would it be available?

Is quicksave out of reach then?

well it might be that users from OTHER trilogy would be able to use the votes then

no idea, was just plugging an idea

gameover.com is down already for almost 2 years

4:57 PM

thought I answered it, but it seems gone

perhaps they squatted my idea and didn't want it to be public, hehe

@Ivo, did you add it to the suggestion list?

yeah thought I did

Q: Suggest a domain name for this site

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Possible Duplicate: Write an Elevator Pitch / Tagline Note: We are closing this domain naming thread. It is asking the entirely wrong question. See this blog post for details: Domain Names: Wrong Question We're going to keep the name gaming.stackexchange.com. But we WILL be setting ...

discussion top-7 site-attributes domain-name

It makes me weep a little bit inside that you'd rather play a FPS with a gamepad than a mouse + keyboard. Oh well. – Morinar 19 mins ago

amen @Morinar :)

5:13 PM

http://gaming.stackexchange.com/questions/902/how-can-i-prevent-gaming-sickness

Is this more of a medical question?

A: Suggest a domain name for this site

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gameover.com displays a maintaince page for over 2 years according to the Internet Archive, so it might be buyable (creds to Ivo Flipse) nope, subdomains are still in use, so no continues left!

Downvoter

the gaming sickness question is ok IMO

marco.ragogna

rbailey.wordpress.com

Downvoter

let's not prohibit everything neither

else we'll end up like Super User

marco.ragogna

5:15 PM

There are certain kinds of questions that are common to most all proposals, and will certainly net you points. Figure out what they are, and how to use them, for easy gains.

(did I just say that?)

marco.ragogna

this guy is really focused to get some rep

Yeah, guess we don't want to become MathOverflow.

why would you want high rep on area51?

marco.ragogna

I don't know...

5:17 PM

No I want to become like this: elitistjerks.com/f80/t37900-dots_you_affliction_warlock_thread

@Ivo High rep on area 51 = more influence when comitting.

not neccicarily

not so much as the rep from the trilogy

for Jon Skeet, the rep from everything Stack Exchange related is peanuts

20k+ on over three sites == most influence

I can't even be bothered with that much area51 rep

I have more than I can handle already

5:24 PM

not to mention diamonds ;)

John Siracusa

I will now demonstrate what I believe to be the great strength and curse of the chat.* initiative by asking a question that is almost certainly answered in a FAQ or other documentation: will the Gaming site have the ability to host full-fledged GameFAQs-type guides, or will such things exist only as an unordered, loosely (tag?) associated set of individual questions?

Gosh ... when do I get close rights ...

Didn't we decide against style guides?

no they will (most likely) not change the engine for those questions @John

@john: link to the question please!

5:28 PM

Is it a WoW or LoTR style guide?

Q: FAQ for Stack Overflow, Server Fault, and Super User

but the FAQ tagged questions on Meta.SO are a great example of what can be done:

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Community FAQ For Stack Overflow, Server Fault, and Super User To see a list of commonly used words and phrases, see the glossary. Questions, answers, and comments What is a closed question? What is a locked question? What is a protected question? What is a favorite question? What is accept ...

support faq

or this one:

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Q: Twitter image encoding challenge

If a picture's worth 1000 words, how much of a picture can you fit in 140 characters? Note: That's it folks! Bounty deadline is here, and after some tough deliberation, I have decided that Boojum's entry just barely edged out Sam Hocevar's. I will post more detailed notes once I've had a chance ...

unicode twitter compression code-golf challenge

John Siracusa

And why would I ask here instead of going to the site and reading the FAQ and other documentation? Because it's "easier!" And now the chat regulars are supposed to explain why I should not be asking this here and should RTFM and learn how to ask better questions and so on. And in a corner, Jeff quietly weeps—weeps!—for humanity, having now fully recreated everything he hates about IRC. Fin

you think I should have told you to ask that on meta?

That question should drop that last bit

How so?

5:32 PM

It's subjective

ah, the evil why word

Totally subjective. Player styles aren't the same as game logic.

would "Is there any reason I may want X" subjective

a lot of times I'm trying to figure out what a feature is for

Reword to "What are some uses?", maybe?

Good point ... that question can stand without it though

5:35 PM

why seems acceptable in that question if you replace want with need.

marco.ragogna

Dwarf Fortress should be a great game. I see a lot of questions about it :)

true @random, though I'd say that with Starcraft I think they do reflect some highly optimized best practise

Still a valid question IMO though.

certainly a valid question!

@marco It's a great game, with an unusually tech savvy and fanatical player base.

5:36 PM

I finally got it running earlier, but then didn't get to play :(

however, it is also a hard game and also a source of fun

marco.ragogna

@C.Ross I would try it

Need to do some more stuff though, get some more x86 libs. Arch really hates putting them in it's main repos :(

marco.ragogna

what do you think about this question?
http://gaming.stackexchange.com/questions/1995/planetside-2-in-development

Rumours, no definite facts. Close.

5:38 PM

Would vote to close as too localised (time based/news event)

I lean toward close myself

Voted to close as too localised

marco.ragogna

I voted some hours ago, I did well then ;D agreed

I'm all out of close votes though.

Kevin Y

Completely localized . . . and not for this site:

gaming.stackexchange.com/questions/2210/…

marco.ragogna

5:40 PM

lol
voted close

Kevin Y

Just a heads up . . . I changed my username from Mew2468 to Kevin Y . . . I felt unprofessional using my Internet username. :P

Yup. Again, no votes though :(

Kevin Y

Lol. So does this feed just post questions?

Seriously? Isn't that more a game development question?

too localized, off topic.

and i have no votes left, so i can't vote to close.

5:43 PM

Feeds bot will just plug into the specific rooms related new questions posted @mew2468

Just wondering? Go wonder somewhere else...

Also, don't forget to downvote together with your close vote if applicable.

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Finally got my 500 rep and so my close vote!

Why would I want to waste my rep on someone, who's question is not worth looking at :P

That's what I thought

5:48 PM

If a question is egregious enough I'll spend one of mine to downvote, especially if I can't close yet

because his rep will go down way harder!

twice as hard!

meeh, I normally just comment what I would expect them to do

-1 rep for 5 people = -10 rep for one person.

but then again, normally my votes are binding, can't really punish any more than that

5:51 PM

Some of us have to make do with our lesser powers @Ivo

normally those people just flag the post and 'make' me do it for them

I figure your time is better spent on spammers and trolls.

@Ivo yeah, we really need moderators out there, exactly the reason why i volunteered:

meta.gaming.stackexchange.com/questions/211/…

How can you ask someone if you can nominate them for moderator before you do?

well you can't, though if he's in the room he can

but he can just say no, then you delete the proposal