The Bridge

7:00 PM

@Axelrod What do you think protesting their gutting of the ethics committee and calling their senators to do something about it is?

Unionhawk

Complaining

obviously

Axelrod

@Ronan Consider this: there's a man who was a Democrat for all of his life until a few years ago -- he's been Blue longer than his opponent was, and was her personal friend for decades -- whose run was egged on by those same people.

Unionhawk

Useless and pointless complaining

Axelrod

If you think he's going to do what he says, you haven't been through enough presidential elections.

Unionhawk

holds finger to earpiece I'm being told that pressure actually worked to kill that as a thing

Axelrod

7:01 PM

But more to the point, if you think you know what he's said and you haven't looked at full transcripts, you're just as badly off.

Newly Opened Proposals for Entertainment

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PennApps

Proposed Q&A site for participants of PennApps, and PennApps information

Currently in definition.

murgatroid99

@Axelrod His cabinet appointees seem to be painting a relatively clear picture of how he intends to proceed in his term

Ronan

@Axelrod What? Have you not seen what he's being doing? The things he's been doing are exactly what people were worried he'd do.

Axelrod

@murgatroid99 It's a representation of holding people accountable which uses torture as a device to convey meaning. Where are you from?

Lazers 2.0

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Q: Distance walked count with Pokémon Go Plus

I was wondering if someone can find a statement on what counts your walking distance when using Pokémon go plus. Is it still the phone or the Pokémon Go Plus instead? All articles I can find only state that it is counted but now how.

pokemon-go

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Q: Marvel: Contest of Champions: Is PVP real?

I was playing Marvel: Contest of Champions game. The Game keeps players' win/loss statistics and displays the stats before every fight. But every player uniformly I fight has the same stats of about 85% to 90% where my win percentage is 89%! I played more than 200 matches and found this very odd...

marvel-contest-champions

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Q: Mob-Only-Allowed Barriers

I'm looking for a solution to solve my problem... I am currently in the process of creating a Custom Map, called 'Monster Troubles', where (at least) 2-4 players defend their 'house' from being destroyed. For the mobs to completely destroy the house, one just has to step on a Gold Block where a ...

minecraft

Unionhawk

7:02 PM

That's currently what the action plan is

murgatroid99

@Axelrod Personally, I'm from New Jersey

Axelrod

@Ronan A different matter entirely.

Ronan

@Axelrod Yeah, that's what we thought, but we're unclear as to who exactly protesting isn't doing that.

Axelrod

@murgatroid99 You should have heard it before.

Unionhawk

It's not about "let's try to pull magic bullshit to elect john Kasich" or anything like that anymore

Axelrod

7:03 PM

@Unionhawk Anymore.

As of... two weeks ago, right?

Ronan

@Axelrod But that's what we're doing. We're doing the "holding feet to the fire" thing. And you're complaining about it and calling it moaning.

Axelrod

The tears shed could have been used to save endangered fish.

murgatroid99

@Axelrod OK. I haven't. Regional dialect differences are a thing

Unionhawk

It's about "these policies are reprehensible, we need to make sure congress knows"

Yuuki

@Axelrod lolwat

Axelrod

7:03 PM

@Ronan Complaining about the winner isn't holding them accountable.

@Yuuki Exaggerating the amount of crying done.

Well, maybe not.

Unionhawk

@Axelrod Whenever the period of "potential magic bullshit thanks to the fact that the electoral college exists" ended

Yuuki

@Axelrod What, pray tell, actions would you consider "holding someone accountable"?

Ronan

@Axelrod Yes it is. When they do something bad we make sure everyone knows that thing is bad and why it's bad.

Unionhawk

Which ended in the final vote count in the senate

murgatroid99

@Axelrod OK, as a mod, I'm saying back off with this stuff about "crying". It's inflammatory and adds nothing to the discussion

Unionhawk

7:05 PM

thx

Was just about to reiterate my point about "xd liberal tears"

Axelrod

@murgatroid99 Phrases that are hundreds of years old.

murgatroid99

@Axelrod Why do you even care? Different regions have different idioms.

Axelrod

@Yuuki Restructuring the protests to be about issues rather than people. Not reporting petty bull as top ranking news when crap like the aforementioned ethics committee move are done. Actually addressing the problems. It's a start.

@Ronan The winner isn't even in yet.

Unionhawk

He's nominated Jeff Sessions for AG

And others

Ronan

@Axelrod That doesn't mean they're not assigning cabinet positions.

They're still doing things.

Axelrod

7:08 PM

@murgatroid99 And as someone who invested himself heavily in this conversation, I'm sure your own end should be clean as well. Let's keep it above board.

Unionhawk

It's not like he hasn't done anything yet because it's not Jan 20 yet and Jeff Sessions is Obama's fault

Axelrod

@Ronan Are there more "No Sessions" protests or more "No Trump" protests?

badp

@Axelrod I was not under the impression that the protests were held because of topics like the size of his hands?

Axelrod

Because there's exactly one Sessions protest going on right now. It features people posing as strawmen allusions to a pro-KKK past.

badp

@Unionhawk pls

Ronan

7:10 PM

@Axelrod How is the number of protests important? People are against Trump and Sessions. But so far Trump has done more things, so more protests.

murgatroid99

Can we not do the "small hands" thing either? This argument is already a little heated; that's not going to help anything

Axelrod

@Ronan So far, Trump has done no things.

Yuuki

@Axelrod Something something would there be "No Clinton" protests if she was the winner of the election?

Dec 29 '16 at 18:58, by Yuuki

@Texenox This is the point of view that I'm somewhat confused about when it comes to politicians. "Wait until Trump does something", do you realize what politicians and lawmakers do? All they do is talk and talk. Once they "do something", that "something" is a law. And now you've waited a bit too long.

Axelrod

@Yuuki We've already addressed this. The answer was "probably not".

Ronan

@Axelrod I just said he's been appointing people to positions. Those are things.

Unionhawk

7:11 PM

@Axelrod Trump has nominated people to the cabinet and they're being confirmed right now.

Axelrod

@Yuuki Right, because Rome was built in a day.

Unionhawk

He's taken credit for saving thousands of jobs

Tim Stone

@Unionhawk (and protested right now, people keep getting ejected left and right from the hearing)

Yuuki

@Axelrod It sure fell in a day though. /s

Unionhawk

What is he up to, like, 10 thousand?

Axelrod

7:11 PM

There's been absolutely no time to go against individual movements. Like pipelines, trade agreements, etc.

@Yuuki It fell over the course of decades.

Ronan

@Axelrod Exactly. Laws aren't made in one day, but there is a final day, and waiting until that final day is too long.

Axelrod

@Unionhawk And Obama took credit for reviving the economy. Politicians like to take credit for things they didn't do.

Unionhawk

I'm just going to leave that one alone

Axelrod

The last one to actually cause the change they crowed about killed millions of native Americans. It's probably better this way.

badp

@Axelrod Do we need to roll the tape on what one of the candidates in this race brought up on the topic of voting fraud and the acceptance of the result of the vote?

Axelrod

7:13 PM

@badp You mean which two? Whose paid supporters were protesting the machines used, again?

"Russians could hack the machines!"

Unionhawk

I for one am a proud Hillary shill, and am being paid to do this right now /s

Axelrod

I won't go into the shillery of Hillary. I just wanted to make the point that there were two people complaining: one via sock puppets, the other directly.

Yuuki

@Axelrod You keep on turning to Obama and Clinton whenever you can and it makes feel like you're more concerned about red vs. blue than any sort of other discussion.

GodEmperorDune

oh is this still going on?

MadMAxJr

Apparently.

GodEmperorDune

7:16 PM

i thought mods were stepping in an hour ago

Unionhawk

Unfortunately

Axelrod

@Yuuki The comparisons are made for poignancy. Two candidates complained. I bring up those candidates. Two presidents (in 10 days), I bring up a president to make a point about concerns for the presidency.

badp

oh if you guys don't want any more of this we can make it stop

just say the word.

Yuuki

@GodEmperorDune I keep trying to at least make it not about current events/elections and we still move back towards it.

MadMAxJr

Is the word Friday?

Unionhawk

7:17 PM

@badp What word?

Tim Stone

@badp It is getting rather tiring

Axelrod

OR you could make it stop by asking.

Yuuki

@badp The bird?

badp

@Unionhawk I'm not telling~

GodEmperorDune

i'm not trying to cast blame here but if you could move it to a side room that would be great

Unionhawk

7:17 PM

Shit

murgatroid99

@badp Is it abracadabra?

badp

that would be too easy.

GodEmperorDune

@badp the word

Axelrod

Banana.

MadMAxJr

Scalebound got canceled. Wasn't that a Platinum title?

Axelrod

7:18 PM

Cacao.

Tim Stone

@MadMAxJr Yes

Yuuki

Is it "GraceNote, I deleted the room. Pls send halp."?

Axelrod

@MadMAxJr It was in several "best upcoming games" lists.

Unionhawk

@Yuuki Well, no, we discovered that mods have an undelete room

MadMAxJr

Their A team makes wonderful things. Their B team makes awful things. Wonder which one it was.

Unionhawk

7:18 PM

since @fredley purposefully the sandbox

badp

of course we can undelete rooms

did anyone have any doubt.

Unionhawk

I can't keep track of what buttons you have that I don't

Axelrod

@badp I have no doubts, but I have questions. The line between Mod powers and CM seems blurry in a lot of cases.

Unionhawk

Which incidentally no longer includes "timeout'

MadMAxJr

GDQ has Daikatana on the schedule...

Unionhawk

7:20 PM

as of like 3 months ago

Axelrod

@Unionhawk You can't timeout the room? You're an RO!

badp

@Axelrod just escalate and if it needs be we'll re-escalate

Axelrod

@badp Look, if there's an issue that needs to bring them in, the problem is systemic.

Unionhawk

I mean, not necessarily

Axelrod

Thus why I'm curious where the line is.

Unionhawk

7:21 PM

Actual mod abuse requires CM intervention

badp

@Axelrod some things systematically do that, and that is on purpose.

Unionhawk

That's probably about it

Axelrod

Mod abuse would be an example of systemic issues, yes.

Unionhawk

Well, again, not necessarily

It could just be one guy

badp

Just because a moderator can't hit a button and have an election doesn't mean there's a problem.

Axelrod

7:22 PM

It's not a bug, it's a feature. Like shooting out game disks on redundant handheld devices.

Unionhawk

anyway

Axelrod

At any rate, everything they do visibly appears to be something mods can do. So the rest of the iceberg is what interests me.

Unionhawk

"advanced user deletion" (that actually might be dev), "diamond removal surgery", etc

MadMAxJr

We should probably stop embedding diamonds in the skulls of moderators.

GodEmperorDune

@MadMAxJr but then how would @ash assume control?

Unionhawk

7:26 PM

That control is embedded in cyborg, not in the diamonds

Axelrod

@Unionhawk Can a CM remove a CM's CM?

arda

I don't think CMs are allowed to act on employees

and CMs are employees

Unionhawk

I mean I'd assume @TimStone would do that personally

And by @TimStone I mean his altar ego @TimPost

And by @TimPost I mean @TimStone

Tim Stone

On the other hand I may be employed via shadow contract to carry out company assassinations. May

badp

@TimStone can you please assassinate Oracle

Unionhawk

7:28 PM

I don't doubt that SE has the resources to hire assassins

MadMAxJr

You can't assassinate Oracle, the licensing costs are just too high.

Yuuki

@TimStone I'm only slightly worried that your sentence seems to be cut off at the end.

Unionhawk

Assassination is actually the final step in shadowbanning users

Axelrod

@Yuuki The Super CM is a ninja.

MadMAxJr

Much like the Tarrasque, Oracle must be reduced to -300 hit points then wished dead.

badp

7:30 PM

@MadMAxJr I wish it dead, so now its hit points must be -300 right?

that's what you just said

Axelrod

And the Super CM Blue / Super CM God Super CM is flashy but no one recognizes them because Hercule stole their thunder.

MadMAxJr

It's a pre-req. -300hp first.

At least that's under AD&D rules.

Unionhawk

You misspelled ADHD

badp

@MadMAxJr It needs to be at -300 HP before I can wish that it dies?

MadMAxJr

Correct.

Yuuki

7:31 PM

They found the princess they were looking for.

3

badp

@MadMAxJr but I already wish that it dies, therefore it must have -300 HP already.

Axelrod

@badp It restores itself at an insane rate.

MadMAxJr

Look if you want to debate rules semantics, we're going to need the ghost of Gary Gygax.

badp

@MadMAxJr does he have -300 HP, too?

Unionhawk

Yes

MadMAxJr

7:32 PM

Depends on how many hit dice his ghost has.

badp

Ghosts can't hit dice, you silly

MadMAxJr

Also you don't want his ghost around, he will make rulings on everything in your day to day life.

badp

They're incorporeal

Also why are you talking like Yoda

MadMAxJr

Don't poke holes in my nerd game logic.

badp

I am RESPECTING your game logic by treating it as such. You should be honoured!

GodEmperorDune

7:33 PM

@badp they can with a ghost touch weapon

MadMAxJr

TLDR; Oracle may be a Lich.

badp

@GodEmperorDune are dice ghost touch weapons?

GodEmperorDune

@badp ghost touch is an enhancement added to the weapon, so the dice very well could be ghost touch hit die

man someone doesn't like russian stack overflow

Yuuki

@GodEmperorDune They're improvised weapons though, so you'll have to take a -4 to attack.

badp

@GodEmperorDune so you may be able to touch ghost touch dice weapons, but can you hit weapons?

Unionhawk

7:37 PM

I DON'T SPEAK RUSSIAN AAAAAAAA

GodEmperorDune

@badp yes, the ghost touch property allows them to hit both ghosts and non ghosts

badp

@GodEmperorDune are the ghost touch dice weapons ghosts?

Axelrod

@badp I thought ghosts had no issue hitting corporeal things but corporeal things had a 50% chance of hitting ghosts.

GodEmperorDune

@badp no

Yuuki

> "Jack, I'm not sure this is what 'headbutt' means."

3

GodEmperorDune

7:39 PM

@Axelrod yes, ghosts' weapons are naturally ghost touch weapons

badp

okay, so since you can hit weapons for damage they must have some hit points

How many hit points does a non-ghost ghost touch dice weapon have

Axelrod

Sundering rules are weird.

Yuuki

Alternate caption: "I don't think this is what Ali meant by 'float like a butterfly, sting like a bee'."

cc @Ash

GodEmperorDune

@badp by default, most weapons have hardness 10

hardness == object hit points

badp

@GodEmperorDune how can something with negative health use something with positive health

Doesn't it lead to annihilation and a –290 HP ghost

GodEmperorDune

7:42 PM

@badp that's not how hit points work

negative hit points are not anti hit points

badp

Also a few photons

GodEmperorDune

when a creature drops to -10 hit points they are usually ded

there are some exceptions

like a lich will regen after a time period as long as the phylactery is still good

and some spells let you go to more than -10

and the tarrasque is awesome and can do whatever it wants

Yuuki

cc @GodEmperorDune

Axelrod

@GodEmperorDune We went with the -CON option

GodEmperorDune

@Axelrod yeah i wasn't taking alternate rules into effect

it's much simpler in 5e

Axelrod

7:47 PM

Everything is...

GodEmperorDune

@Yuuki i feel terrible for not getting it

Yuuki

@GodEmperorDune Nana, nana, nana, nana, Batman.

GodEmperorDune

@Yuuki HUE

i never referred to an old lady as nana so that was the missing piece

back to the topic at hand, I think that 3.5 has enough rules that it can outbadp @badp

MadMAxJr

I just want to see Batman and 4 grandmas take on the Tarrasque now.

Yuuki

@MadMAxJr Has Batman had enough time to prepare?

GodEmperorDune

7:51 PM

@Yuuki no party goes up against a tarrasque without time to prepare

MadMAxJr

He's got 20 minutes before the bus arrives.

Yuuki

(Side note: I hate the Crazy Prepared Batman trope)

GodEmperorDune

i mean you need a wish spell to kill it

it's not like everyone has one in the utility belt just in case

oh wait...

Yuuki

The Tarrasque may be awesome, but the Squirrasque is perhaps even better.

> The Squirrasque's gullet can hold 2 Huge, 8 Large, 32 Medium, 128 Small, or 512 Tiny or smaller creatures.

What. The. Hell. Seriously. By the definition of Baleful Polymorph, it must keeps its extraordinary abilities, and this is the way the ability was written, so it can do this. It still can't grapple worth a crap, but maybe it doesn't need to. Helpless foes can't really oppose grapple checks, now can they?

So let's imagine a camp of, say, nine Frost Giants, each at 15 feet in height. One is keeping watch, the others are asleep. A little squirrel waddles into the camp, and the giant i…

GodEmperorDune

@Yuuki that's why most DMs disallow polymorphs to a different size category

Yuuki

8:00 PM

Oh hey, I feel like it's appropriate to repost this (warning: Inception spoilers)

Inception in Real-Time

►

Axelrod

@GodEmperorDune That kind of ruins the point of polymorph.

There's plenty of shapeshifting things that do that and more.

Frank

@Yuuki This was an awesome story.

MadMAxJr

Depending on version, there may be standardized wording for swallow whole. If so that probably has a clause stating it cannot devour things unless it is one size category smaller than itself or smaller.

But a squirrel that can devour two older dragons is amusing, yes.

Basically the squirrel from perhaps one of the most bizzare moments of Jojo's Bizzare Adventure.

Axelrod

It has to make a successful grapple check first.

And its STR is garbage now, so that's basically a nil point.

But the sleeping part? Maybe.

Yuuki

@MadMAxJr Swallow Whole has a different RAW for Tarrasque.

Axelrod

8:11 PM

Don't you wake up if attacked? A squirrel biting you should do it.

The Tarrasque "grapples" via improved grab. Biting the enemy.

MadMAxJr

The party uses the squirrel as a trojan squirrel.

Frank

@MadMAxJr A valid tactic, if you can handle the swallow damage.

Unionhawk

Is the squirrel also a pocket dimension or something so it's just normal sized?

Frank

@Unionhawk Its a polymorphed Terrasque. Which has all it's feats and inherent abilities.

Unionhawk

I see

Axelrod

8:24 PM

@Frank Wait, doesn't it also get reduced in mental stats to that of a squirrel?

A trained Trojan squirrel.

Wear gloves when handling

Frank

@Axelrod It made its will save.

So it knows it was a Terrasque.

Now it's a pissed off squirrel that can swallow you whole.

Yuuki

@Frank If you're helpless.

Otherwise, it's probably not making that grapple check.

@Frank Do you still play FFXIV?

MadMAxJr

The squirrel disembarks 32 troops inside the fort.

Or 30 troops and one large supply wagon.

What would amuse me is if the squirrel also retained the mass value of the tarrasque.

Squirrel hops down from the tree, leaving a fair sized crater.

Axelrod

You'd be facing Real Life Superman issues at that point.

The squirrel collapses and dies of its own weight, but because it's a Tarrasque it regenerates over and over.

GnomeSlice

this discussion is still going?

GodEmperorDune

8:35 PM

@GnomeSlice blame @badp

he didn't understand how ghost touch works

badp

my battery died like 40 minutes ago

Axelrod

@badp Car? Phone? Positronic brain?

badp

not telling

GodEmperorDune

@badp is that 40 time cube minutes?

badp

it's 40 not-watching-AGDQ minutes

Axelrod

8:37 PM

40 cycles.

Lazers 2.0

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Q: What does the yellow star mean on the minimap in Hitman Blood Money?

What does the star with an S in it represent?

hitman-blood-money

Frank

@Yuuki Havent for a while.

Too much else to play.

MadMAxJr

3 hours of pokemon emerald yesterday was too much AGDQ

We could have had Pepsiman 3 times

Unionhawk

PEPSI MAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN

MadMAxJr

I think the awful games block is overnight sadly.

But tonight should have a Doom 2016 run.

MBraedley

8:53 PM

HMCS Esquimalt

HMCS Esquimalt was a Bangor-class minesweeper that served in the Royal Canadian Navy during the Second World War. She saw service in the Battle of the Atlantic and in the Battle of the St. Lawrence. She was sunk in 1945, the last Canadian warship to suffer that fate. She was named for Esquimalt, British Columbia. == Design and description == The Bangor class was initially to be a scaled down minesweeper design of the Halcyon class in Royal Navy service. However due to the difficulty procuring diesel engines led to the small number of the diesel version being completed. The ships displaced 592 long...

So I'll be working with the survey team whose job it is to locate this wreck. Note the last sentence of the article.