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12:07 AM
That's why my test code works differently, it uses an entirely different library
 
user15026
Bah, I have all these leftover American pennies in my wallet that I can't use.
 
user15026
Pennies are dumb.
 
@Ash you are supposed to throw them at cars when stuck in traffic
 
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Q: Are there any point(s) of no return?

two bugsI'm on chapter 6, and so far the game has warned me three times (twice through menus, once though a character literally saying "This is the point of no return!") that I'm reaching a point of no-return (or at least I won't be able to return for a while). The first two were seemingly fake-outs. I ...

 
@Lazers2.0 @twobugs LIVES
 
user15026
12:13 AM
@GodEmperorDune Oh, is that what they're for....
 
@Ash one of my elderly coworkers used to do that
 
user15026
If I'd actually remembered they were there, I'd've left them with @WorldEngineer or spent them but I forgot they were a thing.
 
the joke was that he did that to the head of the company once, and she was so cheap that instead of getting mad she got out of the car to collect them
 
user15026
Anyone want 8 cents? :P
 
@Ash please mail them to @fredley or @Wipqozn
in individual letters if you can
 
12:17 AM
Throw them at @Wipqozn instead of cars?
If that doesn't sound like a plan I don't know what does
 
@Unionhawk make pennies great again
 
user15026
Considering a stamp is like $0.85 yeah I don't think I am going to do that
 
@uni 2020
 
user15026
@Unionhawk I'd have to get much better at throwing, he's so far away
 
@Ash but those are canadian cents, these are american pennies
apples and oranges
 
user15026
12:18 AM
Google says my 8 pennies are worth 11 canadian ones :P
 
It probably costs about that much to exchange them
And/or they'd just tell you no
 
I like how producing 1 penny costs more than 1 cent to do.
 
user15026
yeah, I don't actually intend to be like "exchange my pennies", and the rest of my american change I am spending just like Canadian change. The dollar bill I will likely just stash someplace until I or someone I know is going there and then I will be like hey free money for you
 
user15026
Because it's a dollar.
 
@Ash you should put it on a fishing hook like that commercial
"almost had it, you gotta be quicker than that"
also, did you go to trader joes? are you addicted now?
 
user15026
12:21 AM
@GodEmperorDune I don't know the commercial but I keep thinking of the scene in Little Rascals where they find the dollar
 
@GodEmperorDune I actually did one day and I was not impressed.
 
user15026
@GodEmperorDune I didn't, actually. Partially because I didn't want to be sad about all the things I was missing out on :P
 
I expected amazing and large things and I got a tiny little place
 
heretics, all of you!
 
@GodEmperorDune See, the Trader Joes near me is a tiny place in some strip mall
Like, really tiny
 
12:22 AM
wat
 
I do not know if this is normal tiny
 
@Ellesedil And that's why a large group within the Federal Reserve wants to get rid of the penny entirely
 
user15026
@GodEmperorDune I am not a heretic I was trying to PROTECT MYSELF.
 
But it was an objectively small store
 
the ones out here are large
 
12:23 AM
Okay
That's what I assumed
 
like not huge like a target or a walmart or anything like that
but slightly smaller than a normal grocery store
 
Ok
See, that other place I tell you about?
200,000 square feet.
 
@Ash a better excuse would be that you were lost in justin trudeau's dreamy eyes
 
Which, by my estimation, is twice an average grocery store
 
12:25 AM
are the electronic ballot counters... connected to the internet?
 
It's awesome and has literally all things
 
i should learn square footage
 
@GnomeSlice No
 
then wtf are they doing
 
user15026
@GodEmperorDune Sure, let's go with that
 
12:25 AM
@GnomeSlice sometimes they do firmware updates
 
@GnomeSlice The vulnerabilities are associated with physical access to the machines
 
huh
 
@Ash seriously they are so dreamy
 
seriously?
 
One research group was able to alter vote records on an older machine if they could obtain access to the memory card slot
 
12:26 AM
@GnomeSlice seriously
 
They weren't guarded?
 
@Unionhawk was that teh one that stored votes on an unencrypted excel file?
 
@GodEmperorDune Dunno
@GnomeSlice It's kind of one of those "maybe the poll workers weren't watching carefully enough" things
 
lol
 
the thing to remember is that each state in the US can do elections however they want, and it's also up to the specific counties in each state to run the things
 
12:28 AM
Yeah
 
so my county does scantron ballots, if they wanted to recount they would run the scantrons again through a diff scantron machine
other counties use different machines
 
I think we also had some sort of scantron type thing
 
I can't imagine Ohio running through the VVPATs
That'd be a nightmare
Since that'd be 100% manual
 
some of the places use electronic machines that print a receipt, others use physical machines still
i think pennslyvania has some machines that don't give a paper record at all
 
This is the case in a lot of states
 
12:31 AM
Yeah, I voted in Pennsylvania in 2012, and I don't think we got any paper record
 
Which is SUPER FUN
And a large part of the "how one would hack the vote" playbook tbh
 
so i don't know how Pennsylvania does a recount, other than to take all of the totals from each individual machine and sum them again
 
"target areas that do not use any sort of voter verified paper record"
Nobody would ever know
 
Maybe those machines have some sort of internal auditing, so you could check that for inconsistencies
 
i think the best defense against voter fraud is the statistics you would need to do to pull it off
 
12:33 AM
I mean yeah in this election there were 2 arrests made for attempting to vote twice
Out of...
A lot?
And thousands turned away for ID issues so :/
 
@Unionhawk more than 120 million votes cast i think
 
Yeah something like that
Ugh
The cycle of this project: 1) communication breaks 2) rfid reading breaks 3) goto 1
 
although i would be down with some sort of mandatory election audit for all states after each cycle, i am doubtful that the jill stein recounts will change anything
 
No
Well, maybe we'll find out that Anonymous performed a mass scale election hack, but, probably not lol
 
from what i remember, anonymous was surprised to find out on election day that you need to register to vote in advance
 
12:39 AM
Oh yeah that's right
 
if they could get that fixed, that would be great
 
So yeah never mind, definitely not
 
12:52 AM
Does anybody know what these are
They came with a shirt
 
@GnomeSlice They go in the collar to make the point of the collar straight.
 
^ That.
 
Oh, what
How
 
Check under the collar.
You should see a slot in the fabric that they slide into.
 
Wuh
 
12:54 AM
Ideally, you should also remove them before you wash the shirt.
 
Huh TIL
 
@GnomeSlice its a sex thing
 
@GnomeSlice helps keep it stiff
 
Can't have a frumpy collar now, can we?
 
@BanhMiDacBiet so it is a sex thing
 
12:59 AM
@GnomeSlice if you're adventurous enough
 
@Wipqozn undecided. Better than 13 for sure
 
@Sterno FF?
 
lots of random bullshit like fishing and cooking that I do not care about
@Vemonus yes
 
@Sterno I'm still downloading this enormous patch
Hope it's worth it
 
Also the skill tree seems small and uninspired, which was a surprise
 
1:02 AM
I will never forget the FFX sphere grid
 
lots of dead time running from point a to b
enjoying it so far though
first time out at night was very cool
it'd be nice to have an emo-free FF game though
2
just looking at my party, I want to punch them
 
@Sterno All I got from the trailer was the kid was mad at his dad and went on a car ride
 
@BanhMiDacBiet I think he's sent as an ambassador or something
And the car breaks down
@Sterno it wouldn't be a true final fantasy game then
 
Ellen getting in on wearable tech!
 
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Q: Unknown error message

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Q: How do you wait until a specific time of day?

StrixVariaI want to have Ignis drive me somewhere, but it's night and I can only drive manually. How do I wait until morning? Also, if I have a nighttime hunt, how would I wait until night? I expect they're the same mechanism.

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Q: What all goes in my Trainer Passport?

VemonusRight now, I've got 6/15 pages of my Trainer Passport filled out: Official Pokémon Trainer Melemele Trial Completion Akala Trial Completion Ula'ula Trial Completion Poni Trial Completion Island Challenge Completion The rest are blank. What are the other pages for?

 
1:15 AM
@BanhMiDacBiet that was the weirdest thing, though apparently there was some way to give everyone ultra stats using that
 
@GodEmperorDune Which were sorta needed to fight anything stronger than the end boss.
Of which, there was lots.
 
@GodEmperorDune Yeah, I remember as a kid going to GameFAQs to find out how to do that. Ended up using only Tidus for the Sin fight
 
@Sterno i don't understand what people have a problem with XIII. sure XIII's mechanics at the start was kinda bad choices but i enjoyed the story that made up for it, and not just because Fang and Vanille are possibly yuri for one another
@BanhMiDacBiet that system was great, too bad XIII's was so linear
 
@Memor-X yuuup. I stopped playing the game halfway through and just watched the cutscenes on YouTube.
 
@Memor-X the story was meh but i loved setting up the automatic fight mechanics
 
1:22 AM
@Sterno what about IV? don't recall any Emos in that
 
When did FF games start to not match their number? I recall the Japanese versions are numbered different at some point
 
@GodEmperorDune most of the time i did manual because auto seemed to be a cop out for doing actually strategizing but the first game was kinda crap with the "if you die it's game over and we're going to Doom you if your taking your sweet ass time"
@BanhMiDacBiet when the US tried to be smart. from my understanding VI and VI were the only ones that got number chnages to II and III
 
@Memor-X see i always found fighting trash mobs repetitive, so automating it saved me all those button presses
 
it's like with Tales of, the US made Tales of Eternia = Tales of Destiny 2 and really screwed themselves over when the real Tales of Destiny 2 came out
@GodEmperorDune i used the "trash mods" as experiments for new strategies for when i came to a boss
 
1:44 AM
@BanhMiDacBiet Only 2/4 and 3/6 have different numbers. Japanese 2, 3, and 5 weren't originally released in the US, and with 7 they went back to same numbering.
 
2:00 AM
@GodEmperorDune Pennies are a relic of ancient times
GET WITH THE PRESENT AMERICA GOD
NO PENNIES NO MASTERS
@Sterno but then would it Really be final fantasty?
 
@Wipqozn i initally read Pennies and Penis there
 
@Wipqozn urmom is a relic of ancient times
cc @fredley @Wipqozn on that sick burn
@sternold can verify urmom's authenticity
 
@Wipqozn We're trying. Unfortunately, there's a strong metal supplier lobby that opposes getting rid of it.
 
@murgatroid99 won't someone think of the empty fountains?
also how will the 99 cent store cope? should it become a dollar store? preposterous!
@GnomeSlice i can dig that
 
2:14 AM
That was a trio of terrible jokes/puns.
 
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Q: Why is Demon Mira crashing my game?

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Q: Does anyone know this game?

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I had to see https://t.co/h47bpJfar2
 
how can you get fat free chicken nuggets?
is it even chicken anymore?
 
Do you know how they are made?
 
2:25 AM
and why are you gluing them to things
 
@GnomeSlice i don't think even ricky would waste chicken fingers like that
 
pepperoni sticks
 
i should go back and watch early TPB
but my queue has too much in it already
 
@GnomeSlice this is great
i feel bad for laughing at it
 
2:30 AM
it's staged
 
i figured
i know these are fake but this channel is great
 
2:53 AM
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Q: What is the description for in image markdown?

rivermont - Will B.The code for creating an image in markdown is [![enter image description here][-]][-] What is the description used for? Is it displayed when the image cannot be, or for something else?

 
3:12 AM
BING! my mum just handed me my Deluxe Edition copy of Final Fantasy XV. since i keep hearing about a huge patch i might stick it in my PS4 so the patch can start downloading and keep playing Sword Art Online: Hollow Fragment while it downloads in the background
probably wont play it until i beat Sword Art Online: Hollow Fragment......and maybe Yuuki after Floor 100 is cleared
 
@GodEmperorDune yes
 
@Memor-X Hollow Fragment on Vita?
 
@Frank nope, PS4. but i do have for Vita aswell
 
@Memor-X I hear the translation is much much better for PS4.
I picked up a Vita specifically for that game, and that localization is just horribad.
 
@Frank no idea. i was going to play it on Vita after i finished season 2 (at least almost, i can't bare to watch the last episode knowing what's going to happen) but then Lost Song got released for PS4 and the Steelbook Edition came with the code for the Directors Cut version of Hollow Fragment for PS4
 
3:21 AM
@Memor-X Hrm. I picked up an import of Lost Song. I haven't even opened the box.
I wonder if that came with a code?
 
but Gravity Rush's controls were better on PS4 than Vita (evident that i was able to get Platnuim which involves getting gold in all mini), could be the same for Sword Art Online
@Frank if it does you might want to redeem it. i got Final Fantasy Type-0 Limited Edition which came with Final Fantasy XV's Demo but i didn't redeem it and the code expired
 
@Memor-X It doesn't appear to.
I...think? That's what I got.
Hard to tell, because I can't read Japanese.
 
@Frank never saw that one. mine one just came with the game and a separate steel cover and inside that was a piece of paper with the code
i got mine from OzGameShop
 
3:37 AM
@Memor-X This is for Vita, though.
So that may be the difference.
 
@Frank possibly. not sure if the re-release for Hollow Fragment (know as RE:Hollow Fragment) was released on Vita. my copy of Lost Song was for PS4 and the regular version of Lost Song on PS4 doesn't come with it
 
@Memor-X Yeah, I don't think it came out for Vita.
Which is a shame, because that translation shouldn't be locked up in a specific version.
 
@Frank i read that RE:Hollow Fragment was built to fully utilize the PS4's Hardware and you don't need to buy all the DLC for it. it's just a single free DLC which adds all the Vita's DLC to it
 
@Memor-X Wait, Re: is free DLC?
 
OH RIGHT LIN MANUEL IS DOING DRUNK HISTORY
 
3:48 AM
@Frank no. it gets all the Vita's DLC but as a single Free DLC. so all the GGO Stuff and other Costumes you don't have to buy again
 
hmmm, i lied, twitter is actually good https://t.co/KW4MV0DnSJ
 
oh and also with RE:Hollow Fragment you can play as a girl
though all the characters still call you Kirito, the high level Sword Arts like Eclipse and Starburst Stream and Cutscenes show Kirito
and also Female Only Armour like the Scout Armour or Wedding Dress can't be equipped by you even if you play as a girl
 
So it's basically just a skin.
Not that it matters.
Hollow Fragment is just such a grind.
 
@Frank that, your voice and how you move
@Frank never really noticed that. sure i sometimes choose to grind low level players in Solo Multiplayer mode but that's just to ensure i get the trophy for no Assault Team deaths by having them all listed as Elites
 
@Memor-X The whole dating bit, if you're going for all the trophies, is incredibly mind numbing.
 
3:54 AM
@Frank oh that. it's about 2 hours sitting at the tables outside Agil's place doing the chat
alot of the time you can just respond with X and 2x R1's
once they get to affection rank 5 you can bridal carry at Mood Level 0 and skip right to Mood Level 6 when you head to the bedroom
though no bed scene for Argo
 
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Q: Red lightning bolt icon over player icon

WolfIn my HotS party, a player had a red lightning bolt icon over their player icon in the upper-right corner while we were waiting for a game. I know that a lightning bolt means connectivity issues in Overwatch, but this is different (on the hero select screen). What does this red lightning bolt mean?

 
@Memor-X I feel like this is one of the differences between them.
I don't think you can bridal carry at Mood 0 in the original.
 
@Frank only if their affection is Rank 5 which is maxed
if you get the trophy for all the heroine's affections levels maxed you can get instant bed scenes because the chat minigame before it is real easy
though i still hear that even at affection level 5 and the instant bridal carry Pina can still cockblock you if you carry Silica
 
4:09 AM
0
Q: How do I catch fish?

VemonusI'm doing the Kitty Catering mission and I'm trying to catch fish. I've gotten the "A fish is eyeing your lure!" message a few times and I've tried to "entice it" by changing the speed I reel in my line. However, I can't seem to entice the fish enough to catch anything. My understanding of "chan...

 
4:40 AM
0
Q: What is this symbol?

VemonusI ran up to this symbol, but there was nothing there. I've only just started so I'm not sure what this means or why it was so prominent on my map, but it is. ...What is it?

 
5:15 AM
@Unionhawk yussssssssssssssss
 
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Q: Does the Car Mechanic Simulator 2015 contain DLC in Humble Bundle

John DemetriouCar Mechanic simulator 2015 is in the latest Humble Tycoon Bundle. How can I tell if the game contains dlc? Usually Humble Bundle games contain all dlc, but is there a way to know before purchasing or activating the game?

 
5:34 AM
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Q: Climbing end pillars quickly

FennekinHow to climb end pillars quickly? What is fastest method to climbing end pillar without getting knocked off?

 
5:47 AM
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michaeldavidAn important factor continuing to hold down inflation is the runescape gold 2007 persistent effects of the financial crisis. According to this model, the risks to the inflation outlook remain tilted to the downside. The financial crisis disrupted the credit market, leading to lower investment and...

 
6:07 AM
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Q: Problem of jumping inSwardigo

Rahul mahavarWhat should I do for high jump in snowy slopes ..?

 
Already on wishlist
Cheapbeats is the best
 
@кяαzєя nope! I'll have to try to remember to check that out tomorrow
 
6:21 AM
@GnomeSlice oh that reminds me a bit of breezesquad.bandcamp.com/album/m-nster
 
That ones in my wishlist too but i dont remember it offhand
 
So this is a thing. I'm not sure why this is a thing, but it is a thing.
 
6:39 AM
@PrivatePansy less plastic in landfills. makes sense to me... if it used less plastic in the packaging
 
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Q: Best way to livestream to 2 streaming services at the same time

Andy HerbertI have a gaming rig with a strix gtx 960, an intel i7, 16 gb of RAM, and fast xfinity internet. I have a Youtube and twitch channel where I like to livestream in both. To do so, I use nvidia ShadowPlay 3.0 to stream to Youtube and OBS to stream to Twitch, however issues occur and one of the strea...

 
@кяαzєя Well, your spoon would dissolve
 
@PrivatePansy which is the whole point
 
Well yes, but sometimes you actually need the spoon
 
yes but in this case, the duty depicted is fulfilled
 
user15026
7:28 AM
@PrivatePansy because chocolate and coffee go good together?
 
7:46 AM
@PrivatePansy I have the exact same at home. Didn't know elit chocolate was universal, huh.
 
@arda Singapore imports everything
Including chocolate spoons, it seems
 
I didn't get a chance to test the chocospoons or whatever I bought last week yet, but I can test and let you know how it is if you want
 
8:14 AM
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Q: Which Z-Move has the most base power?

KelexinJust a bit curious, as to which Z-Move has the most power. When I say this, I mean in base power, this is not including any other additional effect.

 
8:59 AM
I'm considering getting some kind of VR
but not sure which type
It would have to be something I can use while seated, because my bedroom isn't open enough to move around in
 
9:13 AM
@Nzall cc @KevinvanderVelden because he has a couple IIRC
 
9:31 AM
@PrivatePansy Look at your cup of hot milk, now back to me, now back at your cup of hot milk, now back to me. Your cup of hot milk is now hot chocolate.
 
9:44 AM
 
 
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10:55 AM
Joel Spolsky, one of the founding fathers of programming is being interviewed by @tuutipiippo in the Speakers Studi… https://twitter.com/i/web/status/803907059313999872
Well done Joel on inventing programming
10/10 trolling
 
So I'm reading an autobiography of someone, published in 1997. She mentions the existence of men-hating feminists. (And she mentions how stupid half of people hating the other half is. Full part in Turkish can be found here, I can translate it if anyone wants). Didn't know that was a thing for so long.
 
@fredley ... WHat the hell. that's so ridiculously wrong it's not even funny. Top level trolling or stupid. Not sure which.
 
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Q: "Crouch jump" script to crouch after holding "jump" for a certain period of time

user598527By crouching during jump you can reach high areas that are otherwise unavailable. Script eliminates the necessity to hold the crouch key. "Crouch jump script" commonly used by players (crouch jump by holding spacebar): bind space +duckjump alias +duckjump "+jump;+duck" alias -duckjump "-jump;-d...

 
11:11 AM
morning bridge
 
Today's real scary thing: we did a mannequin challenge
 
it was -9 Celsius in my city this morning
walking to the train station has terrified me enough for today, thank you
 
@fredley I do wonder how they're going to force Google to build a backdoor in Chrome that only works in the UK. Because I honestly do not believe that Google will backdoor their product globally, that would be suicide
 
Man life is strange feels like the best TV show I've watched in ages
 
11:56 AM
@murgatroid99 Man you guys need less lobbies. Either that or your politicians need to stop being bribed.
 
@Nzall Or google just fucks the hell outof the UK.
 
@Arperum I think that's the more likely option
 
Same for every other browser producer.
 
@fredley "She's a free-speech advocate who tells her opponents to sit down and quit throwing tantrums [...] all really she wants to do is start a conversation."
 
thing is, as long as the UK doesn' t have a Great Hadrian Firewall like China has, I don't think that will stop UK users from downloading a non-backdoored version of Chrome
 
11:59 AM
I can only imagine her show being "AND IMMA LET YOU FINISH BUT TRUMP IS AWESOME AND YOU'RE LITERALLY FASCIST,"
pretty much
> "Colin, I support the first amendment, I support your right of freedom of speech and expression. Go for it bud! If this country disgusts you so much, leave,"
I've blocked people on twitter for far less
In P̢̢̞̞̫̝͈̩̬̙̹̊͌ͪ̽ͦ͗ͯO̴ͭ̊̌͐̉͟͏̱̖̪S̴̡̛̟̘͕̹̺̤͎͍̦ͭ͒T͉̖͎͒͂̆̉̾̎ͭ̔͟-̢͓̗͗ͥT̈͑͏̻͍̜̭͙R͌ͯ͐̉ͥ‌​̤̭̟̻͡ͅU̵͍̦͐̉Ṭ̨̖̗̺̩͖̙͆̌́͘H̱͎̩̄̀͝ speech, I might just look her up just to L̰͇͍̦̖̜͗̋̽͌ͮO̸͕̫̳͚̙̹̔̊͊C̳̅ͨ͑̋͂̆ͬ̆̑K̲͔̝ͬͭ̏̊͛̔͛̕͡ ̗̥̪͎ͩ̄her up
 
@Nzall Except providers are also regulated and have to censor stuff and let them know what people are doing.
 
@Arperum There's ways to get around ISP monitoring.
 
what makes you think VPNs won't have logging, too
 
Also: so "you have a browser without backdoor on your pc: this is a) illegal, b) proof that you are up to no good and at least a terrorist or doing other extremely despicable stuff like kiddy porn."
bam instant locked up.
 
Whatever, not like it'll affect me in Belgium
 
12:05 PM
lol
 
@Nzall Just wait until our government takes their stupid over.
 
We're Simply Adopting Best Practices
hopefully the EU can just rule all of this unlawful
 
Yea, Brexit doesn't sound like such a bad idea after all. Please drift out to sea.
cc @fredley
 
if I do ever end up making a website, I'll make sure to do my best to block the US and UK
turns out geoblocking wasn't a mistake
gotta protect myself from other people's mistakes
 
@badp At least we can have our cake and eat it now
 
12:11 PM
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Q: Battlefield 4 Single player conquest

CrapwifiDoes Battlefield 4 have single player conquest mode, like in Battlefield 2?

 
12:21 PM
> But in the absence of a traditionally functioning opposition, and look at today's polls which suggest a stonking lead for the Tories, this lack of information does not, at least, appear to be doing much wider harm.
 
12:33 PM
@RedRiderX same
 
@fredley oh goodie
 
Apparently this happened this morning in Brussels.
 
12:52 PM
> An anti-feminist who admires strong women.
 
@MBraedley probably the usual "I am a successful woman, and since I made it anyone can make it, so if you're a woman who didn't make it, it's totally your fault. Look at these other women who made it."
It's the very merican "the odds aren't stacked against you, you are stacked against yourself" dream bullshit.
 
@MBraedley yeh thanks to Firefly if i see things like this i start to imagine how it would fit in Firefly
 
why are all women so LAZY they will not get jobs in IT
 
@Memor-X Technically, the image is from Castle
 
I guess that means women are just bad in general! Why don't they try as hard as we do!
 
12:58 PM
@badp I guess you have a point there.
 
@MBraedley i know.....but that doesn't change with what my mind is doing since watching Firefly
 

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