The Bridge

Aeo

12:03 AM

@badp Uhhhh... What just happened there?

badp

@Aeo The kind of stuff that happens when people write programs in assembly by hand

Aeo

@badp Oh. That explains quite a bit, actually...

badp

tasvideos.org/GameResources/SNES/SuperMarioWorld.html#ItemAbuse

↑ one of those things happened

Aeo

That's one insane run even after the start-finish one ...

badp

Well it's a ROM hack. TAS is pretty much the only way to win

Lazers

12:08 AM

0

Q: Is there an auto-run key?

I'm getting pretty tired of holding down control and w at the same time to make my character sprint. Is there a way to auto-run?

pc kingdoms-amalur-reckoning

badp

Oh the specific glitch is explained in the submission page, @Aeo

tasvideos.org/3436S.html

under 'pokey stun glitch'

Tristan

Phew... it's crazy how filling four tiny tacos can be. O.o

Aeo

@badp Yeah, I think I'll stick to something a bit less amazing :P Fascinating nonetheless

Tristan

Aeo

I had hoped to play a practice round of LoL tonight to at least re-familiarize myself with the controls before tomorrow, but the installer seems to keep freezing up... Hmmm...

Tristan

12:19 AM

@Aeo It can be pretty finicky... We have some useful links in this channel.

For learning the game, that is.

Lazers

12:33 AM

0

Q: Can towns be founded during a game in OpenTTD?

I just started a small map (64x64), and there is only one town. It's 1890 and I don't know if I'll have to play the entire game with just one town. Can another town appear during the game? Can I found a new town?

openttd

badp

Poor Brant

1) Remove SD card from camera. 2) Push card into slot on side of iMac. 3) Card is completely swallowed. That was the DVD slot, idiot.

Tweeted by brantb on February 11, 2012 at 12:40 AM

lol, this ad on Apple.SE might not be the best placement ever

3

Brant

See followup tweet for (thankfully) easy solution!

►

I mean, the bloody slots are right next to each other.

I wasn't even looking, I just put the card in there and gave it a good shove… and then it kept going in until it disappeared.

badp

@Brant My father once put a SD card in... I think... the PCMCIA slot? It didn't end well

especially after he tried shaking the laptop hoping that would help

Brant

Oh, FWIW, the reason I was using the SD card in the first place...

Dropbox is testing a new feature in their beta client that automatically transfers images from a camera to your dropbox folder for upload. You get 500MB added to your account for trying it out, and another 500MB for every 500MB of files you transfer using it.

badp

12:48 AM

@Brant rly? nice

link?

I could use the extra space

Brant

forums.dropbox.com/topic.php?id=53106

So I was putting the SD card in so I could put, uh, a bunch of existing "pictures" on it to re-transfer

(totally not a bunch of MP3s with their extension changed to .jpg, no sir)

also: forums.dropbox.com/topic.php?id=53120

badp

eh. I have 3.9 GBs available

so I'm only 1.1 GB short of the max

I wouldn't have to cheat THAT much

I do wish the paid accounts weren't that expensive.

99$/year is a lot :/

Tristan

@OrigamiRobot I like this layout a lot better.

badp

uh, so I connected my mobile and nothing's happening.

Brant

did you install the beta client?

it's linked in a sticky on the forums

badp

12:59 AM

Yes I have

I'm installing random drivers and stuff now

Lazers

0

Q: Is crouching in quake live useful?

In quake live I see users crouching when using gaunt or shotgun. Is there any advantage to crouching? Or are these players doing it for no reason?

quake-live

Brant

Maybe it isn't detecting your mobile as a device with photos on it.

badp

Maybe mobile == "iPhone or even an Android or gasp a Blackberry."

Brant

I don't really know. I know there's a certain… thing that digital cameras use to signal to the OS that it's a media device with photos/video on it, in addition to the usual "show up as a removable disk" thing.

agent86

@Brant usually there's a particular file structure on the card

Design rule for Camera File system

Design rule for Camera File system (DCF) is a JEITA specification (number CP-3461) which defines a file system for digital cameras, including the directory structure, file naming method, character set, file format, and metadata format. It is currently the de facto industry standard for digital still cameras. The file format of DCF conforms to the Exif specification, but the DCF specification also allows use of any other file formats. The latest version of the standard is 2.0 (2010 edition). Directory and file structure The filesystem in a digital camera contains a DCIM (Digital Camera...

... not that at a previous employer I had to know this intimately for any particular reason or anything. ahem.

just happened to randomly know the relevant standard for photo cards in digital cameras.

ahem.

when you connect a device that can take pictures to a computer, it might use a different protocol than a normal mass storage device, it's called PTP

Picture Transfer Protocol

Picture Transfer Protocol (PTP) is a widely supported protocol developed by the International Imaging Industry Association to allow the transfer of images from digital cameras to computers and other peripheral devices without the need of additional device drivers. The protocol has been standardised as ISO 15740. It is further standardized for USB by the USB Implementers Forum as the still image capture device class. USB is the default network transport media for PTP devices. USB PTP is a common alternative to USB MSC, as a digital camera connection protocol. Some cameras support both modes...

that's kind of another dead giveaway to the OS

anyhow, far, far, more than you ever wanted to know, but there you have it.

Brant

1:07 AM

Actually, I always wondered how that worked.

badp

basically the DCIM folder I guess

LessPop_MoreFizz

> - Fixed issue causing Lydia to renounce vow to carry burdens.

Aaaaah good old skyrimpatchnotes.com

Brant

In either case, I'm guessing this is exactly what Dropbox wants to test, because they specifically say that the Dropbox client has to transfer the photos for you to get credit. Just dumping the MP3s^H^H^H^Hphotos in the folder yourself won't give you free space.

It drives me absolutely batty that Cmd+W doesn't close the Steam window.

It works for every other window -- friends, chats, preferences -- but not the friggin' game library.

FallenAngelEyes

@Brant I use Spideroak instead of Dropbox now because Dropbox has some icky fine print. Anything you upload becomes theirs.

Friend of mine's professor warned him about this, because of he used it for schoolwork and decided to publish something, there could be complications due to Dropbox's ToS. :/

Brant

Oh? I knew about the encryption thing, but not about ownership/IP.

(and FWIW, the encryption thing I don't care about, since I use the web interface all the time and that's kind of how it works)

badp

1:12 AM

connects an actual camera

FallenAngelEyes

Yeah, I think it's pretty blegh. :(

Brant

Where in the terms does it say that, anyway?

badp

Okay, that worked

dropped from 51% to 46%

4.4 GB

Ullallulloo

Wait, so if you upload something illegal, wouldn't that make it theirs too?

LessPop_MoreFizz

Personally, I only use Dropbox for shit I don't care about anyway, so meh.

Brant

1:18 AM

> By using our Services you provide us with information, files, and folders that you submit to Dropbox (together, “your stuff”). You retain full ownership to your stuff. We don’t claim any ownership to any of it. These Terms do not grant us any rights to your stuff or intellectual property except for the limited rights that are needed to run the Services, as explained below.

(Still reading the rest of the terms and privacy policy for the more weasely bits, but I haven't seen anything yet)

LessPop_MoreFizz

@Brant Yeah, this sounds pretty akin to the google + owns your photos fiasco.

Brant

That's exactly what I was thinking.

LessPop_MoreFizz

Which.. um, yeah, you kind of have to grant them a liscense to let them host it, but taken out of context can sound awful.

FallenAngelEyes

@Brant Ah, apparently they updated since I heard about this.

They fixed the phrasing up so it's now what you posted

Brant

They rewrote everything after the recent fiasco it was revealed that while your stuff is encrypted, Dropbox can decrypt it themselves if they want to.

(Since your Dropbox account password and your decryption key are roughly equivalent, this is exactly how the web interface can see your files)

Tristan

1:23 AM

Man... Even the Anakin in the Clone Wars animated series is a whiny punk.

LessPop_MoreFizz

1:44 AM

hahahaha 1 quarter in and Lin already has 10 points

Wipqozn

@Tristan I did indeed.

I rather liked myself.

Tristan

@Wipqozn Aww... I was hoping to be there for your reaction. lol

Wipqozn

ah, well. My apologies.

IT was awesome though.

Tristan

Glad you approve. I had my doubts about the red outline, but I think it turned out okay.

Lazers

1

Q: What does player level do?

As I've made my way through Story Mode, I've noticed that I've been accumulating "player points", which has slowly added to my "Player Level". However, I am unclear as to what exactly what player level is used for. What is the purpose of the player level, and how does it effect gameplay (if at a...

soul-calibur-5

Wipqozn

1:57 AM

@Tristan don't worry, I'm colour blind, so I didn't notice.

and if I did

you can just blame it on me being colour blind

Tristan

@Wipqozn Oh. Okay then. >.>

Wipqozn

I should have put that in my nomination speech

"I'm colour blind, so if you don't vote for me that makes you a terrible person. Colourist."

Tristan

@Wipqozn Origami already mentioned a handicap in his nomination... The lack of a spleen.

Wipqozn

@Tristan True

Tristan

My crappy internet is making it very difficult for me to get caught up on Season 2.

Wipqozn

2:04 AM

No response from SE to our meta yet, eh?

Tristan

Meta?

Wipqozn

8

Q: Social networking re-branding

Our Facebook, Google plus and YouTube accounts have been contacted with two emails, they are as follows. Hello! First of all, I would like to thank you for the work you're doing to promote the Gaming Stack Exchange community. Your Google Plus page has some excellent content and is a valu...

discussion design community

@Tristan ^ this

GnomeSlice

Fuuu I just watched The Last Airbender

Tristan

@GnomeSlice Why would you inflict that upon yourself?

Lazers

0

Q: Can I change class/stats through playthroughs in ME1?

I was wondering if I start a new game and carry over my Shepard from my first playthrough, can I switch up stats and my class? This isn't from me1 to me2, strictly in Mass Effect 1. Thanks.

mass-effect new-game-plus

Tristan

2:12 AM

@Wipqozn That seems a bit ridiculous... All I get from it is "If the community tries to run a community run website, we'll take them to court."

Wipqozn

@GnomeSlice That was a terrible idea.

GnomeSlice

I liked it, actually. I'm just very annoyed that it ended in such a way that required a sequel that was never made.

Wipqozn

@GnomeSlice Have you seen the show?

GnomeSlice

@Wipqozn Once or twice.

Only reason I knew anything about the movie.

@Wipqozn Oh... the show chronicles the rest of the story, doesn't it.

LessPop_MoreFizz

@Wipqozn Post went up at the end of the workday on a Friday. I wouldn't expect to hear back until after the weekend.

GnomeSlice

2:15 AM

=[

Wipqozn

@LessPop_MoreFizz ah, right.

I was thinking their time zones were different.

that is to say, I thought I was further ahead of them then it would appear.

@GnomeSlice I don't know. I didn't see the movie, and I've onyl watched a few episodes of the show.

spugsley

@Wipqozn I love the show. It's fantastic

Wipqozn

@spugsley Yeah, I know.

I just could never get the time it was on right :/

YTV alwayts seemed to change it

GnomeSlice

@spugsley Does it follow the rest of the story, and the movie was a prequel?

Wipqozn

I'll probably make a point to watch it online though

eventually

@GnomeSlice I'm pretty sure the movie was a huge insult to the fans.

spugsley

2:17 AM

@GnomeSlice I actually haven't seen the movie. I heard awful things about it and I didn't want to be disappointed :(

GnomeSlice

I just watched it and I quite enjoyed it.

Wipqozn

That is to say it was nothing like the show from what I've heard

and that all the fans were insulted

GnomeSlice

It took me pretty by surprise.

It certainly had a high budget, at any rate.

spugsley

yeah, I should give it a chance

I'm ashamed of what I'm doing to this delicious Chinese food. It doesn't stand a chance

Tim Stone

@Wipqozn Yeah, between the whole casting fiasco and what I heard about it not being true to the show, I couldn't bring myself to watch it.

Wipqozn

2:20 AM

@TimStone mhm yeah

GnomeSlice

I didn't really get the way they cast each race though.

Like, all of the Earth benders were asian.

All of the fire benders were Indian.

:S

spugsley

wow, weird

GnomeSlice

Some of the effects were amazing though.

spugsley

@TimStone what casting fiasco? I haven't seen the movie

GnomeSlice

@spugsley Some of the acting was a little forced.

Wipqozn

2:24 AM

The Last Airbender

The Last Airbender is a 2010 American fantasy adventure film written and directed by M. Night Shyamalan. It is a live-action film adaptation of of the Nickelodeon animated series '. The film stars Noah Ringer as Aang, with Nicola Peltz as Katara, Jackson Rathbone as Sokka, and Dev Patel as Prince Zuko. It was produced by Paramount Pictures and Nickelodeon Movies. Development for a film began in 2007; it was adapted by Shyamalan, who also served as screenwriter and producer. Other producers include Frank Marshall, Kathleen Kennedy, Sam Mercer and Scott Aversano. The series from which it w...

GnomeSlice

Although it got better as the movie went on.

spugsley

@GnomeSlice well, weren't they more or less kids playing the roles?

GnomeSlice

@spugsley Yeah, exactly.

Given the circumstances, it was actually quite good.

Wipqozn

@GnomeSlice that wasn't it at all actually

> The casting of White actors in the Asian-influenced and Native American-influenced Avatar universe triggered negative reactions from some fans marked by accusations of racism, a letter-writing campaign, and various protests

spugsley

@Wipqozn well, not surprising. I actually wrote a paper recently about stereotyping and racism in Disney and Pixar movies. It's everywhere

GnomeSlice

2:26 AM

@Wipqozn Are you kidding me.

FallenAngelEyes

@spugsley lol Pocahontas

spugsley

@FallenAngelEyes absolutely. Well, all Princess movies really. They are always caucasion girls. Even when they aren't supposed to be (like Jasmine), they look white

Tim Stone

@spugsley Yeah, as @Wipqozn mentioned they changed the apparent racial identity of all of the lead characters, except, of course, the bad guy.

spugsley

@FallenAngelEyes the one movie with an African American princess did horribly at the box office. Black girls have literally been brainwashed into accepting white princesses as their role models....okay, I'm going to stop before my nerd shows too much.

@TimStone wow...everyone but the villain? That's just tacky and waaayyy too obvious

Fredy31

crashes through the blood donation he just made

FallenAngelEyes

2:29 AM

@spugsley I still haven't even seen The Princess and the Frog yet

Tristan

@Wipqozn Is tomorrow's Game On still going to be League of Legends? I'm trying to figure out how we can balance it out, plus there are some people (@JohntheGreen) who can't play it on their inferior operating systems. =P

GnomeSlice

@spugsley White children are going to identify more with white characters in children's movies.

It's the way children work.

Wipqozn

@Tristan That's still the plan, yes.

spugsley

@GnomeSlice the problem is black kids are also identifying with white characters because that's all they get

GnomeSlice

I agree.

Tristan

2:30 AM

@Wipqozn k I'm gonna migrate this topic to the proper channel for further discussion...

spugsley

@GnomeSlice I mean, it's not a big deal to a child. They're kids, they obviously don't see it. But as a society we are failing them :/ at least imo

Wipqozn

@Tristan Does the LoL chat still exist?

Tristan

@Wipqozn Yep.

FallenAngelEyes

@spugsley And also, yeah, I can see that. As someone non-white, I was always looking for Asian-looking role models as a kid cuz I was like "Hey, they look like me!"

GnomeSlice

@spugsley I see your point as well, and agree with it, but I don't think it's at the point where it's really a strong issue. Children grow up, and then think about things on their own as mature adults.

spugsley

2:31 AM

@GnomeSlice you're right. But it makes one hell of a paper. Professors eat this stuff up. And it's interesting

GnomeSlice

Sure is. =]

Tim Stone

@spugsley Aye. And it isn't as though they could justify the decision by claiming superior talent, because from what I heard it wasn't there.

spugsley

@FallenAngelEyes right. It's natural for a child to do that. Even as adults we tend to do that when it comes to media

@TimStone I'd be curious to hear the reasoning then.

FallenAngelEyes

@spugsley Yeah. I still check presets in character creation for games nowadays to see if they have an Asian-looking one. Sometimes they do, and sometimes they go for the combo of "Okay, this is our combination Asian/Latino-ish looking person, it's ambiguous enough that it'll pass for both!"

Wipqozn

@spugsley Obviously you need your main cast to be white.

Come on now, this is hollywood!

Without your white leads, why will anyone watch the movie?

Tim Stone

2:36 AM

@spugsley I don't know if they ever explained why they did it, but they did try to pass it off as not being an issue...M. Night Shyamalan made a big deal about how not only was he not doing something wrong by switching the ethnicity of the lead characters, but he was actually being a super great guy because there were a lot of other characters in the movie that made it culturally diverse.

Lazers

0

Q: Does it matter how many days have passed?

Every time I go to open my inventory to check out some new gear I found, which is approximately every 37 seconds, I see the game clock staring back at me. Sometimes it's nice to know if it's day or night since there are certain magic items that give you bonuses during the day or at night, but doe...

kingdoms-amalur-reckoning

spugsley

@FallenAngelEyes Oh yeah. I've had this discussion with others before. The gaming world has a long way to go as far as representing races. It's natural for people to want to play a character that looks like them. I generally prefer to play a female character for the same reason.

@TimStone yeah....the villain, apparently

Tim Stone

It's true in the sense that they race-cast the different factions, like GnomeSlice mentioned, but that kinda...misses the point.

spugsley

@TimStone yeah....I think staying true to the show as far as casting would have made a better statement

LessPop_MoreFizz

@Wipqozn Nope, SOIS is right here in NYC!

spugsley

2:40 AM

WOOT! Just got another famous question badge :)

FallenAngelEyes

@spugsley Yeah, and unfortunately the majority sometimes tends to be very dismissive about the importance of it. "It's no big deal, it's just pixels." or something. Yeah, I think your privilege is showing, might wanna zip up.

Wipqozn

@LessPop_MoreFizz Oh, I know. I just thought the time difference was greater between Nova Scotia and NYC

Tristan

@spugsley You can just taste that PSP Vita, can't you? =P

spugsley

@Tristan unfortunately, not for that question :) I wish it was lol

LessPop_MoreFizz

@Wipqozn You thought it was more than four hours?

You do realize NYC is on the East Coast, right?

spugsley

2:41 AM

@FallenAngelEyes absolutely. And that's why the problem continues

Wipqozn

@LessPop_MoreFizz I thought it was a four hour difference

the meta was posted at 7 my time, if I recall correctly

Tim Stone

@spugsley Mhmm. Ah well, the show was pretty good at least.

Wipqozn

@LessPop_MoreFizz Apparently not

spugsley

@TimStone yes. In general, I love the show. There were definitely some weaker episodes, but overall it was great

Tim Stone

Ah, these live updates being piloted on Meta are going to take some getting used to...my compulsive clicking will be hard to tame. |: </unrelated-tangent>

LessPop_MoreFizz

2:43 AM

FallenAngelEyes

@spugsley That's why stuff like David Gaider's response to a player's complaints that they were "neglecting the straight male demographic" make me happy. At least there are some sane devs out there.

LessPop_MoreFizz

For reference, the amount this woman is suing for, along with being best expressed in scientific notation, is also best expressed by it's relationship to GDP.

That is, it's roughly FIFTEEN TIMES, the total combined GDP of the entire world.

spugsley

@FallenAngelEyes YES! I've seen that before. It's amazing

Tim Stone

@FallenAngelEyes Yeah, that whole complaint...ugh, some people facepalms

FallenAngelEyes

@LessPop_MoreFizz Yeah, I heard about this and was just kind of "what is this I don't even"

Tim Stone

2:46 AM

@LessPop_MoreFizz Ah, well at least she's representing herself. I'd have to shake my head even more if someone else agreed to go along with that.

FallenAngelEyes

@spugsley Have you read the OP's edited in response? It's... so painful to read. Stuff like "The idea of privilege is ridiculous. The "privilege" always lies with the majority because if your goal is to make a game that will be liked by as many fans possible, then it makes sense to focus on that largest group." It makes me ragetwitch.

John the Green

@Tristan I agree, Windows XP is far inferior to what I would prefer to be running it on.

spugsley

@FallenAngelEyes ughhh why do people like that exist???

LessPop_MoreFizz

Tristan

@JohntheGreen Oh, you're installing on XP?

John the Green

2:48 AM

@Tristan Yes.

I gave up on it having inter-OS compatibility a long time ago.

FallenAngelEyes

@spugsley The stupid, it hurts. The guy also says about The Witcher 1, "This is game which was inarguably made for straight male gamer. " I just... yeah. There are no words.

LessPop_MoreFizz

@FallenAngelEyes Well he's kind of right there. I mean, sex cards?

spugsley

@LessPopMoreFizz Hey, I enjoyed the sex cards just as much as your average, straight male gamer

@LessPopMoreFizz mostly for hilarity but still lol

GnomeSlice

@badp are you supposed to be able to lose access to your revolver in SS: the random encounter?

FallenAngelEyes

@LessPop_MoreFizz Yeah but his argument is that the game was successful and created strong memorable characters because it was based on marketing to white straight guys.

spugsley

2:51 AM

@FallenAngelEyes the first Witcher is one of my favorite games. It was fantastic

FallenAngelEyes

@spugsley I have a boxed copy of the EE edition on my shelf, still waiting to be played. I just haven't gotten around to it yet. :(

LessPop_MoreFizz

@FallenAngelEyes Right, but by 'strong and memorable' he means 'hot' and 'I got to see her boobies.'

@FallenAngelEyes You really should. With the Witcher 2 EE around the corner, now is the perfect time!

FallenAngelEyes

@LessPop_MoreFizz I need to get through ME 1 and 2 in time for 3 :(!

spugsley

@FallenAngelEyes it's great. Don't bother with the second one.

Tim Stone

@FallenAngelEyes Less than a month away! :D

spugsley

2:54 AM

@FallenAngelEyes I still need to play ME

FallenAngelEyes

@spugsley Oh, why so?

@TimStone I know @_@

Tim Stone

@spugsley You need to immediately get off chat and rectify that. >_>

spugsley

@TimStone you sound like @IanPugsley he bothers me all the time about that lol

Tristan

@spugsley You have ~1 month to beat both of them... Get to it!

Tim Stone

As well he should!

spugsley

2:55 AM

@Tristan KoA is more important right now because I could win stuff lol

FallenAngelEyes

@TimStone I had my progress stalled because I re-rolled my character and I'm one of those people who hates repeating content, so I was just dragging my ass trying to get through all the Citadel stuff again.

Tristan

@spugsley Good point...

FallenAngelEyes

I'm finally past it though and gonna start on Feros \o/

spugsley

Alright, back to KoA now.

bye guys

FallenAngelEyes

Later!

And I need to sleep, g'night all.

Tim Stone

2:58 AM

Hooray! \o/ I should probably start my replays soon, otherwise I'll have to disappear for a day or two to catch up.

G'night

LessPop_MoreFizz

I just never got into Mass Effect.

I've tried several times now

agent86

@LessPop_MoreFizz I <3 ME

I don't much care for most of the rest of the bioware catalog, but that game I can get behind

I started dragon age, and then it crashed my xbox like 3 times in a row and I was like, okay no.

LessPop_MoreFizz

@agent86 I was meh on Dragon Age, hated the sequel

I've always had kind of mixed feelings about Bioware though

Always been more of an Black Isle/Obsidian/Troika guy myself

Tristan

@LessPop_MoreFizz Obsidian ruins games for me...

LessPop_MoreFizz

@Tristan How so?

Tristan

3:03 AM

They took everything impressive about KOTOR and just took a big heaping crap on it for KOTOR2...

LessPop_MoreFizz

I <3 Avellone.

Tim Stone

Huh, speaking of BioWare, they're now responsible for Command & Conquer: Generals 2 thanks to EA studio shuffling?

LessPop_MoreFizz

@Tristan You do realize that KOTOR 2 was released roughly a year before it was done under pressure fromt he publisher, right?

KOTOR 2 was a disaster, but that has very little to do with Obsidian.

Tristan

@LessPop_MoreFizz I was not. But... Does that hold true for Fallout New Vegas as well?

agent86

@LessPop_MoreFizz yeah, black isle and obsidian were good studios. wasn't one of those the former interplay/fallout team?

LessPop_MoreFizz

3:08 AM

@agent86 Black Isle was the interplay/fallout team. Obsidian is those people since they've moved on. It's not a past-tense place.

@Tristan No, but Fallout:New Vegas was absolutely fantastic?

@agent86 Also Planescape:Torment

Tristan

@LessPop_MoreFizz The storyline and setting were good. The amount of bugs that released with the game (and a lot of the ones that are still around) are not so great.

LessPop_MoreFizz

@Tristan You mean the bugs that were also largely present in Fallout 3 and Oblivion?

They were using Bethesdas engine.

Tristan

@LessPop_MoreFizz I didn't have nearly as many game breaking bugs in Fallout 3 and Oblivion.

LessPop_MoreFizz

@Tristan See, I found Oblivion in particular to be far more broken.

I encountered very little bugginess in NV

and I have logged A Lot of hours on NV.

gaming.stackexchange.com/tags/fallout-new-vegas/topusers

agent86

man, I've nearly 100% NV, and let me tell you, that game has some bugs.

I think the whole series of the "oblivion engine" is a total mess though

that one's kind of a high point for the bugs though, imho

I don't know if they've got the world's shittiest debugger, or just a ton of bugs that nobody bothered to fix in the engine or what

but that whole group of games sometimes felt like someone just went "ahhh, screw this. just add more radscorpions and ship it."

LessPop_MoreFizz

3:12 AM

@agent86 Oh, It definitely has bugs. But I didn't really have any game-breaking type issues of the sort I did in the other Gamebryo games.

But yeah, the Engine is absolutely awful is the main takeaway

agent86

like this: fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Fallout:_New_Vegas_bugs

versus this: fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Fallout_3_bugs

Tristan

@agent86 That page is entirely too large for a game that's been out as long as it has.

agent86

@LessPop_MoreFizz I just don't get how you have an engine that mature and you mange to just not fix this crap

LessPop_MoreFizz

@agent86 That's disingenuous. The fallout 3 page is subdivided.

@agent86 Oh, I agree. Gamebryo is a hilariously broken piece of shit. It's just not Obsidian's hilariously broken piece of shit.

agent86

@LessPop_MoreFizz yeah, but still. some of the severity on the NV glitches is pretty intense. Plus, many of the NV bugs are on their respective NPC/Quest pages, there are far more than like 5 quest bugs :)

@LessPop_MoreFizz I have to imagine that the engine is at fault to a degree - skyrim's also a mess from what I've seen around here.

I just think they must have some sort of miserable debug ability, for the number of script issues they tend to have

LessPop_MoreFizz

3:20 AM

@agent86 Part of it is just a question of size.

You make something that big, and that open, sometimes shit aint' gonna work right.

The less linear you get the more you run into this stuff

agent86

yeah, I just don't buy it. even complex programs can be debugged, y'know?

and if they're architected right, you shouldn't have half of these issues

where things just fail in very similar ways year after year

but then that's me saying that something's trivial when I don't have to do it :)

Lazers

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Q: Crysis Warhead has auto-aim when played with a gamepad?! Can I disable it?

It's really obvious with the Automatic Grenade Launcher, which doesn't have an aim mode. Point anywhere near an enemy and squeeze the left trigger and the camera snaps jarringly to their center. I prefer the ergonomics of a gamepad and I don't need or want this crutch. Is there a CVAR or somethi...

controls crysis

LessPop_MoreFizz

@agent86 Yeah, I'm not saying that every individual bug can't be fixed. I'm saying when you make something this big, well, you're going to have more bugs than you have time to fix. And well, y'gotta ship sometime.

agent86

I just think there's got to be some way to test for some of these things, or at least prevent them from happening. the whole system feels like it's duct taped together, and the've had years since oblivion, and still the same crap with skyrim?

I would just be ashamed if it was my project, looking at a bug list like that.

the gaming industry's certainly more high pressure, and that's why I'll probably never work in it

Tim Stone

Honestly, I think they left the Louis Letrush bugs in just to screw with people.

"...What?! I thought you died? What are you doing stuck halfway in the ground outside of Whiterun?"

LessPop_MoreFizz

3:34 AM

@agent86 Insert Steve Jobs quote here.

agent86

@LessPop_MoreFizz a couple places I've worked, there's been a game company nearby

I always feel sad for those guys. I knew a guy once who worked in that industry for a while and he had to sleep under his desk

no. freaking. way.

Tristan

@agent86 I'd do that if I was working at say... Riot Games, or Lionhead, or Double Fine... But... That's about it. <.< I'd find excuses to go home early if I worked for EA.

Jason Berkan

When I became a programmer, I dreamed of working for a game company. Then I found out what a game dev went through. Decided I liked going home at 5:00pm.

agent86

@Tristan nah. no way. even for those guys, you plan it and schedule it right, or screw you, I'm going home. my 9th - 16th hours in a day are nowhere near as productive as the first 8, and I'd probably go nuts to boot

OrigamiRobot

@Tristan I know I need to send it to Marco

agent86

3:44 AM

@JasonBerkan yeah, it sounds cool, but the drawbacks....

Tristan

@OrigamiRobot Oh. Okay. Just making sure. =P I like what you've done with the place.

OrigamiRobot

@Tristan I'm gonna clean it up a bit more

Tristan

@agent86 That makes sense. I think for me it just comes down to "I'll do whatever I have to if it means Tim Schaefer puts out more awesome games."

LessPop_MoreFizz

I spent a few years in one of the few industries with a worse work-life balance than the games business.

Tristan

@OrigamiRobot How? From what I've seen, that's unpossible.

LessPop_MoreFizz

3:45 AM

I don't envy them.

agent86

@Tristan and this is why you have to work those hours - because there's always someone else who is right there willing to take your job when you drop like a fly

Tristan

@agent86 True.

LessPop_MoreFizz

Yup. Pretty much.

Tristan

I have 2 corners to fill with 2D Pixel art on the Minecraft spleef arena map. Someone recommend something!

Ullallulloo

@Tristan How big?

Tristan

3:57 AM

@Ullallulloo Well... The ponies I did on the walls are roughly 60-70 blocks high, so... Somewhere around there.

Ullallulloo

@Tristan GnomeSlice and the G.SE heart?

Tristan

@Ullallulloo We already have 3 G.SE hearts. lol

user15026

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Q: How do de spawn mobs in minecraft multiplayer

I ask the owner of all the servers i go to and none of them tell me how to spawn mobs. Now im the only admin in my server and there is a huge mob of magma cubes. I want to know how to get rid of them and how to make them appear in a different less populated place.

skyrim

user15026

a skyrim tag? Why?

Ullallulloo

@Tristan The Official Unofficial Logo for Gaming Stack Exchange Except Not Really Gaming Stack Exchange?

@AshleyNunn Because you need one, and it's the biggest so it shows up first in lists.

user15026

4:01 AM

@Ullallulloo Argh. People.

Jason Berkan

@AshleyNunn That is an awesome question.

Tristan

@Ullallulloo The one badp posted on that meta question?

Ullallulloo

@Tristan yes

Tristan

@Ullallulloo I could possibly do that. Assuming I have badp's permission, of course.

LessPop_MoreFizz

Minecraft people, is this accurate:

> Blazes are harmed by snowballs (3 dmg), so making a snow golem for backup or packing a few stacks of snowballs can be a great help.

agent86

4:09 AM

it's kind of sad that in this game I think 50-70% of the skills are just utter useless crap

LessPop_MoreFizz

@agent86 KoA?

Just remember that it's the pet project of a Baseball player that unabashedly loved the shit out of Everquest.

Some of the SWTOR companion dossier's are kind of trite:

> Likes: Adventure, gadgets, attention, praise, friendship

> Dislikes: Scary things, extreme violence, people who are mean to him

agent86

@LessPop_MoreFizz yeah.

@LessPop_MoreFizz whatisthisidonteven

LessPop_MoreFizz

@agent86 Did you not know that?

KoA is the pet project of Curt Schilling.

agent86

mmmkay

Lazers

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Q: How can I de-spawn mobs in Minecraft multiplayer?

I ask the owners of all the servers I go to, and none of them tell me how to de-spawn mobs. I'm the only admin in my server, and there are a lot of magma cubes. I want to know how to get rid of them.

minecraft

agent86

4:15 AM

I think one of the penny arcade guys was like "this game's better than skyrim" and if that's the case, holy crap, skyrim must be a steaming pile

this game's competent, but it's not particularly epic

StrixVaria

@agent86 Glad to hear it.

LessPop_MoreFizz

Curt Schilling

Curtis Montague "Curt" Schilling (born November 14, 1966) is a former American Major League Baseball right-handed pitcher. He helped lead the Philadelphia Phillies to the World Series in and won World Series championships in with the Arizona Diamondbacks and in and with the Boston Red Sox. Schilling retired with a career postseason record of 11–2. His .846 postseason winning percentage is a major-league record among pitchers with at least 10 decisions. After retiring, he founded Green Monster Games which was renamed 38 Studios. The company released Kingdoms of Amalur: Reckonin...

agent86

@LessPop_MoreFizz yeah, I looked him up on wikipedia after you said that

the game mechanics are so-so. they're not bad, but there's just a few issues keeping them from being stellar. the skill tree's full of dead weight. the density of the quests is just staggering - I can't walk 10 feet without 8 people asking me to kill 20 spiders or fetch them 6 of something

I get close to one quest marker and oops, another town. there's like 4 merchants and 8 questgivers, and 12 chests and 20 NPCs who want to wish me good day

Wipqozn

4:33 AM