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murgatroid99

11:00 PM

I think it might be better to try to get both quality and answers up, instead of keeping answers high

Rapitor

i already got that badge for Destiny

murgatroid99

Also, if we have 4 turns to deal with red stats, we might want to leave users at red for a turn or 2

Matt Giltaji

@Rapitor another one then

@murgatroid99 i agree with both of these

just got to be careful with reds

murgatroid99

I also think we can afford to leave questions at 3 for a turn or 2

Matt Giltaji

if we can get traffic up fast, the rest should flow from there

murgatroid99

11:02 PM

@MattGiltaji that's the goal

Traffic only seems to increase when Answers and Quality are both high (maybe both 4)

Matt Giltaji

@murgatroid99 i don't want to jinx it, but the last few turns have been great

solid work everyone

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Schism

@murgatroid99 "In order for your Site's traffic to grow (and not shrink again!), it must consistently offer lots of good help to the world – and that means continuously keeping both its answers and its quality high." yup!

murgatroid99

And since traffic seems to increase users, we should upvote as infrequently as possible (unless everything else is at 4)

Matt Giltaji

@murgatroid99 yep yep yep

murgatroid99

11:05 PM

New theory: Answers and Quality both have to be at 4 for 2 consecutive turns for traffic to increase

Schism

if we have 3/4/x/3, do you think it might be better to raise quality rather than questions?

murgatroid99

@Schism yes

that's what I'm guessing right now

Nathan Merrill

If there is a time to raid PPCG, its now ;)

Yuuki

@NathanMerrill No.

Absolutely, no.

murgatroid99

@NathanMerrill we are not raiding. Period

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Nathan Merrill

11:12 PM

that's fine

Yuuki

If there is a time to raid? There's never a time to raid.

Runer112

if you guys are feeling generous, we'd appreciate it if any of you could help us

Jez

what's all this stuff about raiding?

Runer112

there are like almost 10 people raiding us atm

it's getting very close

second restart vote in a few minutes

Nathan Merrill

hmmm...makes me wonder if there are raiding bots

Rapitor

11:14 PM

@NathanMerrill there is

Rainbolt

To be honest, nobody over at PPCG minds if they get raided. We're better sports than that. Level us if you can.

murgatroid99

@Rainbolt We think it's a bad way to play. So we don't play that way

Nathan Merrill

@Rapitor how do you know that?

murgatroid99

Also, it's against the rules

Runer112

I mind if we get raided

GiantCowFilms

11:15 PM

@Yuuki ?

Rainbolt

I'm just saying we don't care. PPCG won't be raiding anyone ever again. So we aren't gonna break any rules.

@Runer112 Says the guy who was helping them a second ago lol

Runer112

nearly got restarted, 52% continue

Geobits

I agree... fending off a raid is more satisfying than just increasing the score, even if it can be frustrating.

Rainbolt

It's only not cool if feelings get hurt. And I guarantee you that you can't hurt our feelings.

GiantCowFilms

I'm impressed at how fast these bots were written

Rainbolt

11:17 PM

So the don't be a jerk rule doesn't apply

(Unless it's PPCG doing it to everyone else)

Yuuki

@GiantCowFilms Never underestimate the drive to acquire fake Internet points/reputation/renown.

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GiantCowFilms

@Yuuki no kidding

Yuuki

@Rapitor Not sure if we can sub-250.

murgatroid99

@Yuuki we took a long time on the second phase

Rapitor

11:18 PM

glad the whole raiding saltiness is done

spugsley

HALLLLLLLLLLLLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Runer112

@Rapitor come check out PPCG's egg

raid in full swing there

Rapitor

@Yuuki yeah, we had a shaky beta. I'm guessing it will be around 290ish again

Timtech

raid :P

Yuuki

Okay, when we're at 4/4/x/4/4/, I kinda want to either Answer or Downvote to keep Answers and Quality at 4.

murgatroid99

11:20 PM

@Rapitor Actually, we're going pretty fast. I bet 260

Matt Giltaji

@Timtech no raiding

Yuuki

Whenever we Upvote in this situation, it seems Answers or Quality drops.

Timtech

it was @

yea no one closes while its actually good///

Rainbolt

I think the goal now is to win in shortest time. PPCG managed this: i.imgur.com/nNKGyJh.png

Has Arqade gotten a better one?

GiantCowFilms

Post it on meta

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Rainbolt

11:21 PM

Why? I could totally have photoshopped that, so no point in making it all official

GiantCowFilms

I didn't even do an image, its trust based

Yuuki

I'm pretty sure SE is going to give stats like most quickly completed StackEgg on the roundup.

This is just to see what it may or may not be so far.

murgatroid99

@Yuuki I hope so

Yuuki

@murgatroid99 They've done miscellaneous stats for Winterbash, so I expect it for this.

Geobits

I'm pretty sure some SE staff wants to forget it ever happened :P

Rainbolt

11:24 PM

@GiantCowFilms Ok, I posted.

murgatroid99

@Yuuki They could theoretically not be tracking that stat, but that would be more trouble than tracking it would be

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Rapitor

@Rainbolt our best is 251, and we use flags

Yuuki

@Rapitor We always are left with one. If we're going to use them, I figure we should use them all.

murgatroid99

@Yuuki maybe we should use one in beta

Rapitor

11:28 PM

we only really "need" the one in release.

beta flag usually goes unused

murgatroid99

I mean, use the same strategy in beta as in graduated, and use a flag the same way

it might help

Rapitor

i think, next run instead of focusing on one stat at a time, we should attempt balancing them all

GiantCowFilms

Nice work guys!

Rapitor

some good ol' communism

GiantCowFilms

oh no

this isn't a good start

murgatroid99

11:29 PM

@Rapitor but we know that some stats (like users) are less important

Matt Giltaji

@GiantCowFilms we didn't win yet

Rapitor

@murgatroid99 true

GiantCowFilms

Wait, wrong chat!

... to may windows

Rainbolt

@Rapitor We skip flags entirely

We also discovered that you can ignore warnings for exactly four turns. On the fifth turn, you get shut down.

So if you are tanking one stat in favor of another, ignore the warning four times, then save it.

Matt Giltaji

restart bots kicking in

Rapitor

11:32 PM

hm, that's intriguing. I thought it was next turn death.

Rainbolt

Nope. We found out because two warnings popped up at the same time

We obviously couldn't take both

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Rainbolt

Then I went to Sharepoint SE (which is totally dead) and tested it fully.

murgatroid99

@MattGiltaji 3 of them, this time

Schism

haha, ppcg finishes and suddenly arqade gets four times as many voters

Runer112

11:34 PM

probably because we're hopeless in ours, because we keep getting restarted

Rapitor

the race is pretty much for 2nd at this point. we aren't too far behind anime

Runer112

you guys might overtake us if the restart raid continues

Rapitor

Sorry you guys are getting raided hard, but what went down this morning rustled many jimmies.

Rainbolt

I just want to say, thank for for finally succeeding in your raid on day 1 of our egg. Bravo.

It set us back.... 1 day.

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murgatroid99

@Rainbolt as far as I know, it wasn't us

Yuuki

11:36 PM

Huh, Quality just dropped by two. I think.

Rapitor

yeah, its not us (there might be some scripters... but a majority of us are just sticking to our own egg)

murgatroid99

@Yuuki I think it dropped by one, then we left it alone for a couple of turns

MBraedley

Nobody here is trying to restart, right?

Yuuki

Hmm... if we have to choose between Answers and Quality, let's try prioritizing Quality.

See how that works.

Matt Giltaji

@MBraedley restarters, no restarting

0-frame links

11:38 PM

Guys we're getting people trying to restart on Arqade

MBraedley

@0-framelinks It looks like they left

colorfusion

All 4 restarted suddenly stopped?

0-frame links

bots

MBraedley

Well, most of them

murgatroid99

Maybe they flipped a conditional, because they stopped when we hit 95%

user15026

11:41 PM

No Steam! DOn't tell me things I want are on sale :(

MBraedley

@AshleyNunn They're just giving you the option to buy them

Yuuki

Guys, whenever we have to choose between Quality and Answers, it seems prioritizing Quality works better.

user15026

@MBraedley I have no money! They're evil, tempting me

Yuuki

Because whenever we choose Answers when both are 3, it seems Quality takes another hit.

Matt Giltaji

@Yuuki agree

Yuuki

11:43 PM

Answers seems more durable than Quality.

See?

Matt Giltaji

restart bots are back

colorfusion

Just as we hit 99%

Frank

Mods should be able to see them and ban them.

Matt Giltaji

@Frank im not sure how much mod functionality was built into this one day thing

Frank

@MattGiltaji Probably very little.

Matt Giltaji

11:44 PM

in The Nineteenth Byte, 8 mins ago, by Hosch250

The mod said it serves us right, and they don't know of a way to stop bots.

Frank

But much effort has been expended on ruining it for other sites.

Schism

I guarantee they're actual people and not bots, and I don't think manual raiding is bannable...

Matt Giltaji

292, at least the average moves down

Frank

@Schism One of the site rules is to not be a jerk.

There's no other way to define restart trolling.

colorfusion

There was a guy earlier who posted a browser plug-in that kicked in at a certain %, there are probably some bots

Yuuki

11:46 PM

Let's try to push Questions a bit since you take 4 turns while a stat is in the red.

Rapitor

this tutorial for story of seasons is going to take all night

Yuuki

Or does alternating work best during private beta?

murgatroid99

@Yuuki I don't think we really know how private beta works

colorfusion

I think we should try pushing questions

Yuuki

@murgatroid99 True dat. I still have no clue how Lifehacks made it out of private beta.

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murgatroid99

11:47 PM

@Yuuki it probably is better to have questions high, though

Matt Giltaji

@Yuuki they had the power of shog

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Yuuki

When you haven't even defined an answer scope, let alone a question scope, you really shouldn't exit private beta.

Matt Giltaji

@Yuuki defining a scope isn't in the minigame

hmm, maybe the nothing bots are spreading

MBraedley

@MattGiltaji No, I think it's just that there's full hearts on all categories

Rapitor

11:50 PM

RESTARTERS NO RESTARTING

Matt Giltaji

@MBraedley nothing causes decay, at least q & a increase one or the other

MBraedley

Ask only unless an answer is needed

0-frame links

Did we just get restart?

RedRiderX

No we won

Matt Giltaji

@0-framelinks not yet, someone is trying tho

0-frame links

11:51 PM

I came back from break and saw it in private beta

immediately thought "oh someone must have restarted it)

Matt Giltaji

yeah, public beta on dya 18

crap, misclick on upvote

Rapitor

whats going on

why are we attempting to flag

Matt Giltaji

@Rapitor this time we were going to flag in public beta then boost the rest

Rapitor

it wasn't needed yet

Matt Giltaji

restarters are coming in hot tho

MBraedley

11:53 PM

Quality over answers?

Rapitor

now wouldve been the right time

Matt Giltaji

i count 3

murgatroid99

I think we should try boosting answers and quality together, and not concentrating as much on questions

Also, I think we should leave Users in the red for a couple of days whenever it gets there

Schism

I agree that questions probably isn't as important as we're making it out to be

Rapitor

-facedesk-

Matt Giltaji

11:55 PM

restarters, no restarting!

Rapitor

@Schism questions directly affect the decay rate of answers

murgatroid99

@Rapitor but it's better to have answers high than to have questions high

Schism

true, but if answers is 0 I don't think we NEED to boost questions from 3 to 4

murgatroid99

in terms of progress

Matt Giltaji

stay vigilant, the griefers are upon us

murgatroid99

11:56 PM

@Schism this, basically

Runer112

this is easymode, you guys have 3 griefers :p

MBraedley

Need upvotes

Runer112

I have no idea how we dragged our egg for like 30 days to the finish with 9 or 10 restarters

murgatroid99

2 mins ago, by murgatroid99

Also, I think we should leave Users in the red for a couple of days whenever it gets there

MBraedley

'k

Matt Giltaji

11:57 PM

@murgatroid99 better to not have this damn restart vote every turn

for duck shake!

Rapitor

I blame @Wipqozn

Schism

it's only moving to restart because we're not in agreement about what to do :P

Matt Giltaji

this is too much like me watching the jester get lynched in salem

Brant

How are we not #1 on the leaderboards what is wrong with us :(

Matt Giltaji

@Brant early raids hit hard

murgatroid99

11:59 PM

@Schism And because we have 4 people trying to restart the game every turn

Matt Giltaji

and we've been screwing around instead of following strat

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Q: Stack Egg - Force restart only if restart gains majority vote

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