The Bridge

murgatroid99

12:00 AM

@RPiAwesomeness My point was that just reaching the usability level of Windows won't do much

Frank

@AshleyNunn Always a good thing.

RPi Awesomeness

@murgatroid99 Which I understand. However, it does have the advantage of security and the POSIX standard.

Chippies

@GnomeSlice teenagers were weird in the 80s

Matt Giltaji

@Chippies teenagers are still weird

murgatroid99

@RPiAwesomeness I'm not so sure about "security". And people who care about POSIX are probably the same people who already program on Linux

Chippies

12:01 AM

@RPiAwesomeness security that an average user doesn't care about or benefit from

user15026

@Chippies Pretty much this

RPi Awesomeness

@Chippies It's far easier to infect Windows with a virus that can do real harm than it is on Linux.

murgatroid99

@RPiAwesomeness That's because nobody writes viruses for Linux because nobody uses Linux

user15026

@RPiAwesomeness Yes, but if you have some brains about yourself, it's not so hard to never get infected

Chippies

@RPiAwesomeness it's far easier to download a piece of software that does what you want on Windows than it is on Linux

RPi Awesomeness

12:02 AM

Oh bother.

Matt Giltaji

@RPiAwesomeness if linux had the same userbase as windows, viruses would be just as popular

Chippies

both of these have the same reason why :P

user15026

I am a pirating pirate and I have never ever gotten infected with anything

RPi Awesomeness

@AshleyNunn Which many people don't. That's why viruses are so rampant.

Matt Giltaji

@RPiAwesomeness but this nigerian prince is going to give me MONEY!

user15026

12:03 AM

@RPiAwesomeness Which is totally the same in Linux

Chippies

@RPiAwesomeness getting all those people to move to Linux would only mean that people that write viruses would just switch to writing for Linux as well

user15026

Like I bet you dollars to donuts that I could give my sister a linux machine and have it be full of virus-y goodness before you can blink

user20683

The only true answer is BSD

user20683

:P

RPi Awesomeness

@MattGiltaji They would be more popular, but they're still harder to make to do any real damage because of how the OS works at the user's level. Windows tends to run stuff at an admin level while Linux does quite a bit more of a sandboxed approach.

murgatroid99

12:04 AM

@RPiAwesomeness Windows has had UAC since Vista

RPi Awesomeness

@WorldEngineer lol, you mean the masochist answer :D

Matt Giltaji

@murgatroid99 and users get pissed at UAC and disable it

user15026

@murgatroid99 This.

murgatroid99

And it's easy enough to do harm with an unpriveleged malicious program

Chippies

@MattGiltaji you can log in as admin on linux as well

user20683

12:05 AM

@RPiAwesomeness You mean has a sanely structured filesystem?

RPi Awesomeness

@murgatroid99 UAC. Bah. More annoying than useful. It's far easier to get around UAC on Windows than it is to get root access on Linux.

murgatroid99

@MattGiltaji And users can put themselves in sudoers (oh wait, that's default) and then type sudo to make stuff work

Matt Giltaji

there is nothing stopping companies from requiring their software to run with root permissions

murgatroid99

@RPiAwesomeness Type the word sudo

It's not hard

user15026

Basically, we can have this discussion all night, and we are all gonna like and use what works best

user15026

12:06 AM

for us

murgatroid99

Oh, wait, then you have to type in your own password

user15026

and that's it, really

Matt Giltaji

dammit i think i am typing too slow, yall are raising the same things

@murgatroid99 once every 15 minutes

Yuuki

Something something McAfee.

murgatroid99

@MattGiltaji of inactivity

Chippies

12:06 AM

@murgatroid99 log in as admin, have permanent sudo mode

Unionhawk

throw CircularDiscussionException;

Matt Giltaji

@Unionhawk gtfo

Chippies

(assuming that's still an option in distros of nowadays)

murgatroid99

@Chippies many distros actually make it pretty hard to do that

Frank

@Unionhawk Exception not found

Chippies

12:07 AM

@murgatroid99 iirc, in Ubuntu 6.06 you had to assign a password to admin account through terminal and then you could log in easily

RPi Awesomeness

@Chippies Heck. If you have physical access to any computer you can cause all sorts of havoc.

Chippies

@RPiAwesomeness what I mean is that disabling UAC is no different than logging in as admin on linux

probably even less prone to harm, actually

murgatroid99

@Chippies or just running things as sudo

RPi Awesomeness

@Chippies Which you can't do by default.

murgatroid99

Or doing sudo su to get a root login shell

Chippies

12:10 AM

@RPiAwesomeness well, having to type sudo and password can easily be more annoying than having UAC enabled :P

murgatroid99

Or using the root account to give yourself permissions to modify whatever stuff you're not supposed to modify

RPi Awesomeness

Yes. But you still need to have the ability to get the users password to use sudo to even use su.

murgatroid99

@RPiAwesomeness The point you were making was about the user of the physical system disabling protections (UAC). That's just as applicable to sudo

Chippies

@RPiAwesomeness you still need admin password to run things as admin if you're on a regular user account in windows

Matt Giltaji

@RPiAwesomeness or you can tell the user "you have to do this for our software to work" and they will do it

Frank

12:11 AM

I just met the coolest door to door salesman.

Wanted to sell me TV, but went about it really nicely. And understood why I didn't want it.

RPi Awesomeness

@MattGiltaji Which just brings it back around to the user's lack of computer sense. Any person can be told to do anything on any OS and if they don't know what's safe and what's not they'll do it.

No OS can protect from stupidity.

murgatroid99

@RPiAwesomeness Exactly. The point is that Linux doesn't have some special protection from that

Matt Giltaji

@murgatroid99 so much this

RPi Awesomeness

@murgatroid99 Similar situation on Windows.

Chippies

@RPiAwesomeness Windows isn't advertised as this magically secure OS though :P

murgatroid99

12:13 AM

@RPiAwesomeness You were the one who made the initial claim that Linux had special protection from viruses. That's what I was arguing against

RPi Awesomeness

@Chippies Neither is Linux. It's just one of its selling points.

Chippies

Linux is more secure than Windows if you want it to be and are smart enough to benefit from it

Frank

@RPiAwesomeness It's no more secure that Windows.

murgatroid99

@RPiAwesomeness But this entire discussion just demonstrated that it's not a valid selling point

RPi Awesomeness

sigh

user15026

12:15 AM

@Chippies Thiiiis

RPi Awesomeness

PCWorld, TechRepublic - United Kingdom's Communications-Electronics Security Group (CESG), ZDNet

Chippies

I think main selling point of Linux is that it's not for sale. It's free.

RPi Awesomeness

Stupid formatting.

murgatroid99

The only way to get true security is to do something like ChromeOS, which validates the kernel and half the file system against factory settings on boot

user20683

and even then

Frank

12:16 AM

@RPiAwesomeness And how much of that is enabled by default?

Chippies

@murgatroid99 and really, there's not much you can break in ChromeOS, since it's mostly just a glorified browser

user20683

one bios trojan later and you're horsed.

user15026

@RPiAwesomeness shrug

RPi Awesomeness

Yes. The only way to get true security would be to remove the computer entirely from the network and never use it ever.

Unionhawk

..........

user15026

12:17 AM

That doesn't make it magically virus proof

RPi Awesomeness

@Frank Pretty sure all of it.

murgatroid99

@Chippies You can mess with it if you want, and then reset it to factory when you get bored

RPi Awesomeness

Oh dear oh dear oh dear. I never said that Linux is entirely magical and virus proof.

murgatroid99

It's Gentoo underneath

Matt Giltaji

@murgatroid99 how can i install software on it outside of the browser?

RPi Awesomeness

12:17 AM

I said that it's less susceptible to viruses.

user15026

@RPiAwesomeness you are heavily insinuating such

Frank

@RPiAwesomeness I doubt it. Half of those features sound like a major pain for a regular user.

RPi Awesomeness

@AshleyNunn I'm sorry, I wasn't attempting to do that.

Chippies

@RPiAwesomeness mostly because no one writes viruses for Linux, because there's no userbase :)

murgatroid99

@MattGiltaji Enable developer mode through some mystical and arcane ritual, then you can open a shell by doing something

Matt Giltaji

12:18 AM

@murgatroid99 ooooh, excellent

GnomeSlice

fuck this game

RPi Awesomeness

@murgatroid99 Ctrl + Alt + T

murgatroid99

16 mins ago, by murgatroid99

@RPiAwesomeness That's because nobody writes viruses for Linux because nobody uses Linux

RPi Awesomeness

:)

murgatroid99

Now we have gone in a circle

Chippies

12:19 AM

@murgatroid99 I said that before you as well :P

so, double circle? lol

Ktash

Hello all

Matt Giltaji

@murgatroid99 i suppose we shouldn't have ignored the earlier exception

murgatroid99

@MattGiltaji but at that point we were only most of the way around the circle

RPi Awesomeness

That's a fairly blanket statement. People do use Linux. Heck 90%+ of the world's servers are Linux. Obviously, if it's used that much, you'd think that people would be trying to write viruses to get into those sites.

user15026

@Ktash hey you

Chippies

12:20 AM

@RPiAwesomeness no one downloads viruses on servers though (with some dumb exceptions)

GnomeSlice

I almost cried that time I hate this game

Why am I still playing it

Chippies

also server admins are kinda required to not be as dumb as an average user

Matt Giltaji

@GnomeSlice because of the single nude scene per walkthough?

GnomeSlice

If that were it I would have just downloaded a save for it

Matt Giltaji

@RPiAwesomeness linux on the server != linux on the desktop

Chippies

12:20 AM

and people do hack into servers one way or another all the time

murgatroid99

A lot of servers that are vulnerable get taken over by botnets

GnomeSlice

If the main character didn't talk like such a dumbshit it would be even worse

so that's something

Ktash

@AshleyNunn :)

Matt Giltaji

@GnomeSlice maybe the char has a "funky phone"

RPi Awesomeness

@MattGiltaji You're right. But I'm just showing that "nobody uses Linux" is a false statement.

murgatroid99

12:21 AM

I've read about systems that exploit vulnerabilities in PHP code and whatnot, then patch the vulnerability on the way in to keep other people out

GnomeSlice

@MattGiltaji I hate you

Chippies

@RPiAwesomeness "nobody" is an exaggeration, but appropriate one when compared to Windows userbase :P

murgatroid99

@RPiAwesomeness But virus security isn't relevant to servers, so it's clear that you were talking about desktop users

user15026

@Ktash I got a new phone today and it makes me happy :D

Chippies

w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_os.asp

murgatroid99

12:23 AM

@Chippies Linux has gained an entire percentage point in the last 5 years

Chippies

also, people that use Linux are usually not the same people that get viruses on their windows machine

RPi Awesomeness

@Chippies Not really.

Ktash

@AshleyNunn Yay! :D

Chippies

I haven't had a virus in years and I only have Windows Defender as antivirus with realtime protection set to off

Matt Giltaji

@AshleyNunn which one did you go with?

Unionhawk

12:24 AM

@Chippies pretty much this

Chippies

and the couple of times I got a virus was because I did something stupid and fully knew the risks I was taking

Unionhawk

Adware sometimes sneaks in mysteriously

user20683

@Unionhawk usually bundled with the JRE in my experience

Chippies

"Oh I am pretty sure this .exe is a virus, but I really hope it's not! Lets open it!"

"Ooh, it was a virus, okay lets spend next 20 minutes getting rid of it"

Origami Robot

Best RES ever

1.5m in less than an hour

Unionhawk

12:25 AM

OH MAN

user15026

@MattGiltaji The Moto G

user15026

It is AWESOME

user15026

and so fast

Ktash

Nice :)

Matt Giltaji

that's really cool

user15026

12:27 AM

and the battery has lasted since I got it and it was at 45% when I got it

user15026

And it takes really nice pictures

RPi Awesomeness

Okay. My statements that I've made are this:
1) Linux is more secure at the kernel level. It's harder to get elevated priveledges on Linux than Windows. Linux isn't a magical pixie land free of viruses and bad stuff. You *can* get viruses on Linux, but they're rarer and can't do damage.

2) No OS is going to protect against stupidity and sneakiness. You can get malware from an ad on a site on Windows - far harder to do so in Linux.

3) Linux is free and doesn't force you to do stupid crap like have a Windows live account just to use your own computer (Windows 10). However, using Linux gives…

And that's all I'm going to say.

user15026

@RPiAwesomeness I don't need a Windows Live Account to use my computer

RPi Awesomeness

@AshleyNunn Windows 10 requires it, or will.

user20683

Nor I

Chippies

12:29 AM

@AshleyNunn this

user15026

@WorldEngineer >>.

Chippies

@RPiAwesomeness probably because it's still in preview

murgatroid99

@RPiAwesomeness I think #1 is the point we (or at least I) have been arguing with

RPi Awesomeness

That could be true.

Matt Giltaji

@RPiAwesomeness dafuq?

RPi Awesomeness

12:29 AM

@MattGiltaji ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Windows 10 requires it

user15026

@RPiAwesomeness Proof that it will when it isn't in preview? plz?

Chippies

@RPiAwesomeness many people thought Windows 8 required it as well, even though there's an option to use an offline account

user15026

@Chippies This too!

Unionhawk

Does 8 require such things? If no, then I think we have a good indication of the future.

LessPop_MoreFizz

@AshleyNunn @Fluttershy @TimStone @ other people who care about beer exploits: lookit whut I have in the fridge

Unionhawk

12:30 AM

If yes, then this is a known issue

user20683

baldnerd.com/install-windows-10-without-a-microsoft-account

user20683

Not required

Chippies

@Unionhawk 8 asks you to create/sign in with a live account by default at first boot, but you can just click "No, create offline account"

RPi Awesomeness

@AshleyNunn Valid point. I don't have proof.

user15026

@LessPop_MoreFizz grabbity hands

Tim Stone

12:31 AM

@LessPop_MoreFizz oooo

user15026

@RPiAwesomeness Then I am going to have to toss that argument out

LessPop_MoreFizz

I will drink it while listening to Tom Scharpling ask Ellie Kemper if Eric Clapton should be shot into space

user15026

@LessPop_MoreFizz Well, should he?

LessPop_MoreFizz

@AshleyNunn Yes.

user15026

@LessPop_MoreFizz Thank you for satisfying my curiosity

user20683

12:33 AM

Wouldn't that turn him into David Bowie though?

RPi Awesomeness

@AshleyNunn I agree. Please do. I stand corrected and that argument is invalid.

But the other 3 remain.

LessPop_MoreFizz

@WorldEngineer No because David Bowie isn't a racist dirtbag

user15026

@WorldEngineer >.>

user15026

@LessPop_MoreFizz Trufax

12:34 AM

@RPiAwesomeness if you're on a non-admin account (which you should be, if you're an average dumb user (no offense to average users)), you'd still need an admin password to have admin access

I agree that Linux is safer straight out of the box though

RPi Awesomeness

@Chippies Yes, to access certain things. Windows still gives admin-level access to much of a computer - the PCWorld article explains this

Finally. It's safer OOB - which is what applies to a large amount of computer users.

LessPop_MoreFizz

@AshleyNunn That said you should listen because tom scharpling is hilarious and ellie kemper is great

Chippies

@RPiAwesomeness I guess? In my experience, doing anything on a non-admin account is a pain in the ass, because it keeps saying you don't have the privileges

user15026

@LessPop_MoreFizz Is it an online thing?

LessPop_MoreFizz

@AshleyNunn YES! Starts streaming live in about half an hour

murgatroid99

12:36 AM

@RPiAwesomeness They seem to be comparing Windows users on home desktops to Linux users in a locked down corporate environment

user15026

@RPiAwesomeness Yes, but you then need to know how to use it OOB and....most people are going to struggle

Chippies

@RPiAwesomeness It depends. Large amount of computer users aren't going to install their OS themselves

Unionhawk

@Chippies At least in 7, if you're on a non-admin account, and have UAC enabled, it'll give you a password prompt.

user15026

@LessPop_MoreFizz Link? :)

RPi Awesomeness

@AshleyNunn Oh brother. We're going back to this again?

LessPop_MoreFizz

12:37 AM

@AshleyNunn thebestshow.net

Chippies

@Unionhawk I always have UAC disabled, so maybe that's the issue

user15026

@RPiAwesomeness Why not? It's a valid argument

RPi Awesomeness

@Chippies But it comes pre-installed with the default user as admin.

user15026

@LessPop_MoreFizz <3

RPi Awesomeness

@AshleyNunn Not terribly.

Unionhawk

12:37 AM

@Chippies Yeah, if it flat out tells you "no, cannot do" then possibly

GnomeSlice

Super Mario Bros - Fingerstyle Guitar - Frédéric Mesnier

►

murgatroid99

@RPiAwesomeness Ubuntu comes pre-installed with the default user in sudoers

GnomeSlice

I love this guy

murgatroid99

I don't see the difference

Lazers

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user15026

12:38 AM

@RPiAwesomeness Let's say we take my entire family. Hand them windows machines, and I think all of them (minus maybe my 87 year old grandma) would be able to at least (horror of horrors) find the internet and install a couple of things.

Chippies

@Unionhawk you can still shift+right click and run as different user and then run as admin though, which is good enough for me

Unionhawk

I literally do not understand how people are annoyed at UAC in 7 and possibly later

Chippies

@Unionhawk it asks if I want to do things all too often

user15026

Give them Linux, and I know, based on how I felt about Ubuntu, PuppyLinux, and OpenSUZE, and you will have a grumpy family yelling at me asking how to fix things.

Unionhawk

@Chippies Not really?

Chippies

12:39 AM

and the dumb user will click yes anyway, so I don't see how it provides much security

@Unionhawk in my experience, it asks for confirmation on pretty much every executable :/

RPi Awesomeness

@murgatroid99 Yes. So? You're given the ability to become root for that command - you're manually changing your user level. Windows gives you root access to basically everything OOB, you just have to give your password to confirm whatever it's doing - something viruses can easily bypass as proved by the countless ones out there.

murgatroid99

@RPiAwesomeness No, it doesn't. It enables UAC by default

Tim Stone

@Unionhawk Depends on how crappy the software you run is, I guess. I personally don't have that issue, so I'm inclined to agree with you.

Frank

Pixels - Official Trailer (HD) - Summer 2015

►

Origami Robot

UAC is great at training people to blindly click Yes. Best security ever!

Frank

12:40 AM

That looks SO cheesy.

RPi Awesomeness

@AshleyNunn You can do that on Linux, especially Ubuntu, too.

Frank

It's going to be great.

user15026

@Frank If by cheesy, you mean amazing, yes

user15026

@RPiAwesomeness hahahahahhahaha sobs

Frank

19 secs ago, by Frank

It's going to be great.

user15026

12:40 AM

you are ignoring everything I say

RPi Awesomeness

@murgatroid99 Yes. But UAC is just confirming whatever is going on. Viruses can obviously get around UAC.

@AshleyNunn How?

user15026

I am saying I, a non-idiot (my mother had me tested, for reals) struggled with teh damn thing trying to get it to work.

user15026

and you are saying that that is impossible

user15026

and that it is erasy

Chippies

@TimStone I just don't see how it's providing with any security if you can just click yes on everything

user15026

12:41 AM

and I am saying FOR ME and FOR OTHER PEOPLE I KNOW it isn't

user15026

so your overly broad statement is invalid

murgatroid99

@RPiAwesomeness That's not much different from a program saying "you have to run with sudo" whenever you run without privileges

Chippies

and usually when I'm running an executable, I know I want to run it and don't want to confirm it

user15026

I've used various distros, I am not stupid, I have had really smart people who love Linux try to help me, and I have still ended up in tears/

Tim Stone

@Chippies You're not supposed to have to click yes, which is the issue.

Chippies

12:42 AM

"ARE YOU SURE YOU WANT TO DO THIS? ARE YOU REALLY SURE?"

RPi Awesomeness

I never said it is impossible to have problems on Linux. It's impossible to not have problems on any OS at some point or another.

Chippies

@TimStone so you click no, your program didn't start. What do you do now? You try again

murgatroid99

@Chippies what programs are you running that consistently need admin access?

Unionhawk

@Chippies This is literally the opposite of my experience

Tim Stone

Microsoft told people for years and years to stop trying to put crap in the installation directories and to use the user's app data folders instead.

user15026

12:42 AM

@RPiAwesomeness every time I say "x is hard" you go "no it isn't" and I go "for me it is" and you go "but it isn't"

Unionhawk

I can think of a handful of stuff that asks for confirmation, and i'm lumping installers into one category

user15026

Anyway, I think I am going to go watch Trek now

Chippies

@murgatroid99 I can't name them right now, because I haven't used UAC on my computers since Windows 7

user15026

@Frank Heck yes it will be :)

RPi Awesomeness

@AshleyNunn I never called you stupid. I don't know what you were trying to do, but most software that the average user is going to use is fairly easy to install.

Tim Stone

12:43 AM

But they didn't listen because they're dumb and so you have a lot of programs which require permission to write to UAc-protected locations for no particularly good reason.

Matt Giltaji

@AshleyNunn which one?

RPi Awesomeness

I'm sorry, I wasn't trying to call you stupid and all that.

user15026

@MattGiltaji TNG, @WorldEngineer and I are working our way through the good bits of it :)

Chippies

I'm not even sure if a program needs to have admin access to trigger UAC

Matt Giltaji

@AshleyNunn best trek

murgatroid99

12:43 AM

@Chippies That is what triggers UAC

RPi Awesomeness

Blargh. I give up. I'm going to go play something.

Chippies

@murgatroid99 only that?

Unionhawk

Yes

murgatroid99

@Chippies That's what UAC is

user15026

@MattGiltaji Picard makes me SO HAPPY

Chippies

12:44 AM

well, I run all kinds of different stuff all the time

murgatroid99

@AshleyNunn Picard is the best

Matt Giltaji

@Chippies some companies build their software in a lazy way that says it needs admin access if it needs it or not

Unionhawk

Confirmations about "this is from an unknown location" don't require a password, for instance

murgatroid99

@AshleyNunn I've recently rewatched some TNG just to watch him give speeches

user15026

@murgatroid99 I love him and Data and Riker and yes everyone yay

Chippies

12:45 AM

@MattGiltaji that might be a big part of why it triggers

user15026

@murgatroid99 hahaha when I first got home from the hospital and back here, @WorldEngineer asked me what sort of ep I wanted and I said "A good Picard one, I love how he just talks at people and magic happens"

Chippies

either way, I don't run anti virus and I have UAC disabled. Haven't had viruses in years, and even if I did have UAC enabled, I'd still click yes on that executable with a virus, because how am I supposed to know it has a virus without running it?

GnomeSlice

@AshleyNunn The Inner Light!

Matt Giltaji

@AshleyNunn flute one!

user15026

@MattGiltaji I love that ep. We ended up watching the Gambit two parter :)

murgatroid99

12:46 AM

@AshleyNunn I think my favorites are Measure of a Man and Drumhead

Chippies

I have never had UAC trigger on anything I didn't want to run

user15026

@murgatroid99 I really liked Chain of Command even though it was horrifying

Origami Robot

@Chippies It's supposed to be more like a "Hey, I didn't do anything. Why does something need admin access?"

GnomeSlice

I just spilled milk fucking ll over everything typing that

murgatroid99

@Chippies That just means that your antivirus is working

user15026

12:47 AM

@GnomeSlice aaaaaaaa :(

Chippies

@murgatroid99 I hope not, considering I have realtime protection disabled

Unionhawk

GOOD THING SILENTLY INSTALLING ADWARE DOESN'T TRIGGER THINGS

>_>

Chippies

@OrigamiRobot I know that's what it's supposed to be like, but it never is for me

murgatroid99

@Chippies Or just that you haven't downloaded anything you shouldn't

Origami Robot

And they are explaining why the way it's supposed to be isn't the way it is: bad programming and not following proposed conventions.

Chippies

12:49 AM

@murgatroid99 I have spent many years pirating a lot of things, so I have a fairly decent feel of what is and what isn't trustable

Tim Stone

Microsoft's biggest mistake was making the dialog not blame the program author more explicitly so people would hate everyone writing shitty software instead of UAC.

murgatroid99

@OrigamiRobot also, some things, like installers, legitimately do need admin access

Chippies

for an average user, UAC teaches to just click yes

if you click no, you don't get your program running

MBraedley

@Chippies classical conditioning in action

Chippies

if you have to make a decision if you trust this executable or not, then you're bordering the line between average user and a "smart" user, which an average user is not

if you can make a decision or even understand what UAC is asking, you probably don't even need UAC

LessPop_MoreFizz

12:52 AM

Libertarian Police Department

murgatroid99

@Chippies Unless you think there's some potential of an unauthorized program attempting to run

LessPop_MoreFizz

> “Home Depot™ Presents the Police!®” I said, flashing my badge and my gun and a small picture of Ron Paul. “Nobody move unless you want to!” They didn’t. “Now, which one of you punks is going to pay me to investigate this crime?” No one spoke up.

Chippies

@murgatroid99 yeah, well, that is a possibility, but I can't think of scenarios where that would happen without user interaction

RPi Awesomeness

The worst part of having a 443 song library: The lack of the ability to find that one album you want to listen to :P

murgatroid99

@RPiAwesomeness Isn't this why they invented search?

RPi Awesomeness

12:55 AM

@murgatroid99 Yes. I'm just too lazy :P

Chippies

@RPiAwesomeness 443? are you missing a digit? You can scroll through that in seconds

RPi Awesomeness

@Chippies I need to increase my album art size :P

murgatroid99

@RPiAwesomeness I just want to point out that you're too lazy to type the name of an album into a search box, but not too lazy to tell us about not wanting to do that

Chippies