The Bridge

Rapitor

12:02

@Unionhawk maybe it was a bug and it was fixed in the patch that changed bounties

TheAce

i really don't get it

fredley

@No.7892142 Neil Stephenson wrote a novel about it.

REAMDE

It's a bit of a beast

TheAce

1

Q: CounterStrike: GO - Xbox 360 controller not moving

I enabled the controller in the settings but I am unable to move in-game using the control sticks.

Private Pansy

@fredley I have that book on my table right now. It really is quite intimidating, and I'm not sure if I want to start on it

TheAce

how is this almost closed

5pike

12:10

@TheAce Lack of information, I guess.

TheAce

@5pike It's not a complex problrm

fredley

@PrivatePansy It's good, just very long

5pike

@TheAce But it lacks info, like: Is it an official controller, does the controller work with other games, has he installed the right drivers, what has he tried etc...

No. 7892142

@TheAce Man, that comment on the answer is a bit dickish.

Private Pansy

@fredley I got it at a book sale because a) I happen to know Stephenson, and b) since all books were going for a flat price, this was quite literally the most book per dollar I could buy

Frank

12:14

@TheAce Keyboard + mouse >>>>>>>>>>> controller, for FPS's.

Private Pansy

Which was probably a bad idea in retrospect.

Frank

So wanting to make a controller work is going backwards.

Rapitor

some people like using controller.

it's a matter of preference

No. 7892142

@Frank That's beside the point though. The option is there, so using a controller is fine.

TheAce

@No.7892142 I know it is but, I'm sick of the "just get good and use a mouse" attitude

Frank

12:15

@No.7892142 No, that's the whole point.

Rapitor

@TheAce welcome to PC gaming

No. 7892142

@Frank Sure whatever.

@TheAce Yeah, but the guy tried to answer your question anyway.

Frank

You're hamstringing yourself and giving yourself a massive disadvantage.

fredley

@PrivatePansy Haha

Wipqozn

cc @Sterno

TheAce

12:17

@No.7892142 he didn't have to to act like he was putting himself out by telling me how to use a controller

No. 7892142

@Frank "hi how do i drive stick" "OH MY GOD YOU FUCKING IDIOT DON'T YOU KNOW AUTOMATIC IS SUPERIOR IN ANY WAY"

Frank

@No.7892142 Great, well done completely missing the point and being a dick in the process.

No. 7892142

@TheAce I don't see anything wrong with his answer, to be honest.

TheAce

@Frank not when I have a brain problem where it's actually harder to use a mouse. my muscles are jacked up basically

No. 7892142

He voiced his opinion that using a controller for such games is silly and recommended not doing it, then went ahead and tried to solve your issue anyway, if you insist in controller usage.

Frank

12:19

@TheAce See, now that is a fantastic reason to be trying to use a ~~mouse~~ controller.

TheAce

@Frank see my point now? I'm not gonna be some pro CS:GO player I just wanna enjoy the game

Wipqozn

Voters, please remember to leave a comment when voting to close as unclear if you believe there is important information the question is lacking. — Wipqozn 52 secs ago

5pike

@Wipqozn I'll remember that.

Wipqozn

@5pike See that you do, OR THERE'LL BE A PAIN TRAIN INCOMING

Frank

@TheAce There's nothing wrong with using a controller. I never said there was. There's just usually no reason to ever do so on PC, not for FPS's, due to the very clear advantages keyboard and mouse give you. So people can't fathom why you'd want to handicap yourself.

Wipqozn

12:22

6 mins ago, by Frank

You're hamstringing yourself and giving yourself a massive disadvantage.

You definitely did say there's something wrong with using a controller.

Man, I'd think @Frank was a mod with all these corrupt lies he's tossing around!

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No. 7892142

TheAce

@Frank I get that they don't why "I'd want to" cause they don't know my situation but none of that is a reason to close that question

Frank

@Wipqozn Well done, focusing on only a single part of my statement. :P

@TheAce That context is actually pretty important.

Wipqozn

@Frank Thanks

5pike

@TheAce I doubt (hope) that people VtC just because it's about using a controller.

TheAce

12:25

@Frank hmm maybe I'm hoping to hard for an ideal world

Frank

@TheAce A world is ideal. And then people get involved.

TheAce

@5pike i really think it is tho

@Frank damn that was deep

Wipqozn

@Frank IT's really, really not.

It doesn't matter why he wants to use a controller over KB+M when answering is question.

Frank

@Wipqozn It's not needed in the question, but it would help for those confused as to why someone's even trying to do so.

No. 7892142

I find myself agreeing with @Wipqozn and it's irritating!

Wipqozn

12:27

@Frank Sure, but that doesn't really matter. Definitely doesn't make it unclear.

Frank

@Wipqozn I can easily see where those unclear votes came from.

Wipqozn

@Frank I could see why, too, but lack of context for "why a controller" isn't one of them.

5pike

Well, those unclear voters are wrong, if they VtC just because it's about a controller.

TheAce

@Frank So you're saying I should edit the question and be like"YO my hands/arms are all screwed up so i can't use KB+M"?

Wipqozn

@5pike Yeah. If you're going to VTC for using a controller in an FPS, then you should be using a custom close reason.

Frank

12:29

We should be assuming good faith on the part of the close voters. All we're doing is generating bad blood if we don't.

@TheAce If you want to, sure.

No. 7892142

@TheAce Nope, unnecessary information which doesn't belong into a question.

Wipqozn

@Frank I think the problem is that you're giving the impression (unintentionally?) that the problem with his question, one of them at least, is he didn't say why he was using a controller.

Frank

@5pike gaming.stackexchange.com/review/close/123223

You're one of them!

@Wipqozn Yeah, that was the implication.

No. 7892142

@Frank I think his close vote was because there's too little information..

5pike

@Frank Different reason, mate

19 mins ago, by 5pike

@TheAce But it lacks info, like: Is it an official controller, does the controller work with other games, has he installed the right drivers, what has he tried etc...

Wipqozn

12:31

@TheAce You don't need to do that. You are under no obligation to share information like that with the people of this site.

Frank

And see, there's a good faith reason to use unclear.

No. 7892142

@TheAce Did what that guy suggested work for you by the way?

Frank

All we're really doing here is going in circles about how other people used their unclear close votes.

Wipqozn

Also, I'm going to assume the lack of commenting is due to people using the review queue.

Another reason I dislike that gosh darn queue (cc @GraceNote you monster)

TheAce

@No.7892142 it should I haven't had a chance to try it yet

@Wipqozn exactly it shouldn't matter why I want to all that should matter is that I want to and I can't

No. 7892142

12:33

Well if it doesn't, just play TF2, play Pyro and W+M1 all the way. Doesn't need any Keyboard/Mouse skills!

user15026

Good morning Bridge-ians! Today I get to go back to my own house sometime!

TheAce

@No.7892142 lol go to know

@AshleyNunn yay

brb gonna go try that now

Rapitor

Battlefield Hardline takes nothing seriously

3

I think I may have to get it now...

user15026

@TheAce I am so excited. Get to sleep in my own bed, and I will be the only human there so the TV wont be on and loud all the time!

5pike

@Rapitor I like where they are going with Hardline.

No. 7892142

12:37

I forgot, which day was today again?

5pike

7

Kevin van der Velden

Oh gods. IT was mentioned. What have you done @No.7892142?

No. 7892142

@KevinvanderVelden I just like to see bridges burn.

Kevin van der Velden

@No.7892142 you evil evil man

TheAce

well it worked

LessPop_MoreFizz

12:56

NPR Economics Coverage of M:TG

Lazers

0

Q: Do I lose my attack in Clash of clans war?

If I start a battle in a war, but click "end attack' before I attack, will this still count as one of my attacks in the war?

clash-of-clans

Sterno

@Wipqozn That was weird drama

Wipqozn

@Sterno It was, but I figured you'd enjoy it.

Sterno

@Frank I don't know that we should ever need to know why someone wants to use a controller when they ask to get it working. The why is completely irrelevant to answering the question.

@Wipqozn Naturally

Upon reading those Pratchett quotes, I've come to realize I don't like his writing style. JUST LOOK AT THAT UNNECESSARY COMMA

Private Pansy

13:11

No. 7892142

There can never be enough commas in a sentence, ever.

Private Pansy

> There, can, never, be, enough, commas, in, a, sentence, ever.

No. 7892142

It's like Lisp and brackets. More is always better.

Private Pansy

FTFY

No. 7892142

T, h, a, n, ks.

Wipqozn

13:14

@Sterno Which reminds me! Have you played Cities: Skylines at all since buying it?

LessPop_MoreFizz

Reptiles Gettin Hiiiiiiiiiiiigh.

fredley

Video surfaces of Jeremy Clarkson punching producer

2

Sterno

@Wipqozn I made a road. THen quit

No. 7892142

Reminds me of my Prison Architect experience.

Kevin van der Velden

@fredley No.

fredley

13:17

@KevinvanderVelden :)

Frank

@Sterno At no point have I said that it needs to be in the question.

Wipqozn

@Sterno So..exactly what you said would happen

Rapitor

@fredley wait. fuck you.

Private Pansy

Not What He Seems is really really amazing. It's completely different from almost every other episode of the show, and it's pretty much a mid-season finale

Wipqozn

@PrivatePansy Just watched a clip of it from the end. My word.

I should get caught up on gravity falls.

I have trouble folloiwing it, because the release schedule is so inconsistent.

Private Pansy

13:19

@Wipqozn SPOILERS!

Sterno

@Frank Sorry then, I misread what you said. I thought you were saying that's why some people voted as Unclear.

fredley

@Rapitor :)

Sterno

@Wipqozn Mostly because I've been playing Ziggurat instead.

Frank

@Sterno That is what I said. And that's probably why they did.

Wipqozn

@Sterno That's @GnomeSlice's fault, right?

Private Pansy

13:19

@Wipqozn Yeah it's hard to follow.

Frank

But, really, like downvotes, arguing why someone voted the way they did is just running around and circles, and less useful.

Sterno

But also partly because the tutorial-intro-thing said "build a road", then I did, and it didn't move on to what to do next.

Kevin van der Velden

@Rapitor hence me "No."-ing him

Sterno

@Frank I agree in the case of downvotes, but not close votes. Close votes have pretty specific reasons they should be used. To be fair, "Unclear what you're asking" is the most subjective of them

Private Pansy

r/gravityfalls have the schedule on the sidebar. Just check it every one or two weeks for when the next episode will air

Sterno

13:20

But "I want to know why you need to know this" is not the same as "It's unclear what you're asking"

Frank

@Sterno They all have lots of subjectivity to them.

Sterno

@Wipqozn Yes

@Frank True. But in some cases, people are clearly wrong.

Frank

But again, there should be a good faith assumption on the voters process.

That IS why they have those votes in the first place.

Sterno

I can have good faith and still want to educate them why they made a poor decision.

Private Pansy

Episode 10 before this, Northwest Mansion Mystery, is also pretty amazing

Sterno

13:22

That's what half our meta arguments are about

Frank

@Sterno I see less attempted education, and more lynch mob mentality, to be honest.

Sterno

I'm not claiming anyone made a super downvote. I'm not actually claiming anything. I'm just against the idea that an asker should need to specify why they want to know for a question to avoid closure.

I'm pretty sure my position on that would be very difficult to argue with.

Rapitor

the whole Clarkson fiasco is pretty great though. even when off the air the orangutan is still entertaining.

Frank

@Sterno And I agree with that. But at the same time, we're attempting to assign motivations to people we don't know.

Sterno

@Frank Maybe someone else was in the discussion. I'm not.

All I'm saying is that if that was the reason (which is not an idea I proposed), those people are doing it wrong

Frank

13:24

User education is one of our biggest issues.

Origami Robot

WHO THE BUTT IS JEREMY CLARKSON?

Frank

Especially for things like understanding what can and can't be copied for tag wikis.

Private Pansy

@Wipqozn Anyway, it's the mid-season break. You can now safely binge watch all 11 S2 episodes, then wait restlessly for the next few month so that the cliffhanger can be resolved

Wipqozn

@PrivatePansy Will do!

user15026

@rapitor Clarkson fiasco?

Wipqozn

13:27

@fredley I can't believe I clicked that.

Kevin van der Velden

@OrigamiRobot top gear

user15026

Oh, I scrolled up enough to find it.

Wipqozn

@OrigamiRobot Which is a UK TV Show

Kevin van der Velden

@Wipqozn yes

Wipqozn

The UK being that weird backwards place @fredley is from.

Origami Robot

13:27

@KevinvanderVelden WHICH TOP GEAR?

OLD TOP GEAR?

Kevin van der Velden

@OrigamiRobot The good one

Origami Robot

DAVID TENNANT TOP GEAR?

Kevin van der Velden

Yes, same one

... right, now I'm unsure

Origami Robot

OK, HE IS OLD TOP GEAR

Kevin van der Velden

@OrigamiRobot as in that david tennant was a guest on it: youtube.com/watch?v=GKmschnepXg

Origami Robot

13:29

@KevinvanderVelden NO

fredley

@Wipqozn I'm happy now I've got my weekly ration of @Wipqozn tears

Kevin van der Velden

David tennant wasn't on top gear: imdb.com/name/nm0855039

Origami Robot

Kevin van der Velden

That's richard hammond

Origami Robot

OLD TOP GEAR IS DRIVING

Kevin van der Velden

13:30

I confuse them too

Origami Robot

DAVID TENNANT TOP GEAR IS IN THE PASSENGER SEAT

Sterno

I don't understand the Top Gear thing. Cars are boring. This is the only episode of it I ever liked.

3

Rapitor

left: clarkson. right: hammond. back: may

fredley

I dislike Top Gear, and I really dislike Jeremy Clarkson

Kevin van der Velden

@OrigamiRobot and called richard hammond

fredley

13:30

@Sterno I love that one too

Origami Robot

@Rapitor BACK: OTHER TOP GEAR

@KevinvanderVelden I PREFER TO CALL HIM DAVID TENNANT TOP GEAR

Wipqozn

@fredley I bet.

Kevin van der Velden

@OrigamiRobot agreed, I confuse them too

Origami Robot

I ALSO REMEMBER READING THAT HE RAN SOME RIDICULOUS DISTANCE IN THE RAIN WITH NO SHOES TO SEE HIS SON BEING BORN

BECAUSE HE WAS STUCK IN TRAFFIC

Kevin van der Velden

top gear david tennant or actual david tennant?

Origami Robot

13:32

TOP GEAR DAVID TENNANT

Kevin van der Velden

Richard hammond, right

Rapitor

Hamster

Kevin van der Velden

Also acceptable

His names are now: Hamster, David tennant top gear and richard hammond

Lazers

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Q: PVP.net patcher kernel has stopped working

I have been searching a lot for fixes I tried all of them, but still not working. I also tried all of the steps, updating my computer, downloading .net (already have it), re-downloading or replacing rads_user_kernel, running as administrator and running CCleaner. I know there are a lot of things...

league-of-legends technical-issues

fredley

Richard Hammond is nothing like David Tennant.

Rapitor

13:34

Clarkson is still the best.

fredley

@Rapitor Clarkson is awful

His character is dated and awful

Kevin van der Velden

@fredley and yet I confuse the names sometimes

Rapitor

he's a racist and sexist idiot. what's not to love

fredley

@KevinvanderVelden The only acceptable mistake is Elijah Wood/Daniel Radcliffe

@Rapitor ...

Sterno

Just got this email from a coworker:

> If you like Pi (and follow the m/dd/yy convention) you may be interested in knowing that in about 24 hours, the date and time will be:
3/14/15 9:26:53.589793238...

Kevin van der Velden

13:36

@fredley fake harry potter and harry potter, jeah ok.

Origami Robot

@Sterno WORST CONVENTION EVER

Kevin van der Velden

@Sterno also einsteins birthday, also my sisters birthday

ISO 8601 was published on 06/05/88 and most recently amended on 12/01/04.

GnomeSlice

Bbc is getting sued a million pounds for airing casual racism from clarkson

Surprised it took so long

Sterno

@KevinvanderVelden I'll be sure to link that to every single US client that wants me to display date strings when they tell me to shut up and do it the way they want

GnomeSlice

I still think he's hilarious on the show but apparently he's really not very nice in person

Kevin van der Velden

13:37

@Sterno Yes. Do that

@GnomeSlice he's also pretty racist on the show

No. 7892142

@KevinvanderVelden 20130227 discouraged? for shame

Rapitor

@GnomeSlice BBC is also being sued by other networks for taking top gear off.

so it balances out

GnomeSlice

Yeah, I know, but him being inappropriate is like the main joke now

Wait what, taking top gear off?

Kevin van der Velden

Yeah they're not airing the rest of the season

Rapitor

yeah , the last 2 or 3 episodes in the series (read: season to non-UK) didn't/won't air.

GnomeSlice

13:39

Because of the lawsuit???

PLS NO

Rapitor

but, the contract of the 3 is about to expire, so they could sign to a new network. and then BBC will basically lose their biggest money printer.

Origami Robot

I THINK THE ONLY ACTUAL CLIP IVE SEEN OF THE SHOW WAS WHEN THEY RACES ONE OF THOSE TINY SHITTY CARS AGAINST PEOPLE CARRYING A TABLE

GnomeSlice

Watch the one where they drive trucks

Or the double decker car race

Kevin van der Velden

@GnomeSlice carscoops.com/2015/03/…

Sterno

Casual racism is best racism?

Rapitor

13:41

Africa special best episode.

Origami Robot

NOTHING YOU GUYS ARE SAYING IS MAKING ME WANT TO WATCH ANY OF IT

GnomeSlice

Bolivia special was the best yeeee

I quite like the Vietnam one too though

Sterno

I really don't get the thing people have with cars

TheAce

@Sterno same way we have a thing with games

Sterno

But I play games. FOr most people and cars, all they do is look at them

Rapitor

13:42

If you like cars, watch top gear. if you don't like cars but like stupid people trying to achieve things, watch top gear.

Sterno

Okay, okay

Jason Berkan

@Sterno Starred this without clicking the link. I'm assuming it's Friday.

Sterno

I pretend I'm going to play games

@JasonBerkan There's definitely a non-zero chance of that.

GnomeSlice

The one where they made the snowbine harvester was pretty great

Origami Robot

@Rapitor I'M SURE THERE ARE A GREAT MANY OTHER WAYS TO GET THAT FIX

GnomeSlice

13:44

I don't really super like cars but I find the show very entertaining

Origami Robot

CARS ARE BORING

Rapitor

@Sterno depends, a lot of people with nice cars generally like to drive. even race, you can't and probably shouldn't bring your day-to-day car to a track day.

Origami Robot

I LIKE MY CAR BECAUSE IT'S THE THING THAT GETS ME PLACES

GnomeSlice

The one where they built motorhomes was hilarious

Sterno

Is it an American thing where people fix up cars and add ridiculous shit to them, then drive them around town hoping everyone notices and thinks they're super cool, or is the entire world dumb?

Rapitor

13:44

@Sterno world

Sterno

Good to know.

Kevin van der Velden

@Sterno The entire world is dumb, but that doesn't really happen here

GnomeSlice

Clarkson made like a 3 story thing on top of a sedan and it fell over in the wind

Kevin van der Velden

@GnomeSlice fun times

I like the specials where they build stuff

GnomeSlice

Also look up top gear reliant robin

fredley

13:45

@GnomeSlice LOL BANTER

Rapitor

American tuning leans more towards raw power, noise, and straight line speed. Drag racing.

Origami Robot

@KevinvanderVelden YEA BUT YOU LIVE IN BIKE WORLD, NO?

Sterno

I still remember when I visited Darby, our host was trying to explain to me some ridiculous lengths people go to in the UK to get certain license plate numbers, or something.

Frank

@Sterno I'd much prefer to have the car fixed up properly.

Sterno

It was all pretty unclear to me.

GnomeSlice

13:45

Lol banter?

Sterno

One of you Brits should explain it

Kevin van der Velden

@GnomeSlice whieeee, "random" celebrity passerbys lifting the damn thing up every time

GnomeSlice

Haha yea

Peter Stringfellow

Rapitor

@GnomeSlice that one had me in tears first i saw it. so funny

GnomeSlice

Yeah it's amazing

I think my favourite is still the lorry driving special though

Rapitor

13:47

my favorite special is africa, favorite episode is probably RV.

Kevin van der Velden

Rolling a Reliant Robin - Top Gear - BBC

►

GnomeSlice

Africa = Bolivia right?

TheAce

guys im doing something dangours

GnomeSlice

Like that's the one you're talking about?

Because that ones my fav

Kevin van der Velden

@GnomeSlice Bolivia = America

GnomeSlice

13:48

?

Kevin van der Velden

It's in south america

GnomeSlice

Oh south anerica

Kevin van der Velden

Which is also america

Rapitor

no africa as in africa. the "point" was to find the source of the nile.

GnomeSlice

I the Africa one where they tried to find the source if the nile

Yeah

I haven't seen that one in a bit

Anyway I have to go back to work

Sterno

13:56

> Here are a few small tidbits of info about Cities: Skylines – day 1 we had 0% piracy. pretty cool. Day 2 16%. As usual our plan for pirates is to make a great game even better through free updates – making it more convenient to use Steam instead. It’s all about offering the superior service. That’s how we bring down piracy. By making the paid experience a superior one.

LessPop_MoreFizz

Florida Man Suspected of Using Private Plane to Draw Giant Radar Penis http://on.mash.to/1GMnzTV http://t.co/Ks45edra2M

Tweeted by _FloridaMan on March 13, 2015 at 1:24 PM

Frank

@Sterno These people get it.

Also, they're wrong about 0% day 1 piracy.

Sterno

> Jorjani also says that Steam Workshop is “the best “DRM” ever”, recognising the ridiculous amount of community creations already available for Skylines.

@Frank And probably the 16% too. 16% of what? And how do you even measure it. But whatever.

Lazers

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Q: Haste Soft-Cap for 2H Frost DK

After reading several Guides I stumble upon this article where a cap of 3686 haste is mentioned. According to icy-veins Haste weights more than multistrike till BiS. But I wonder if there is a soft-cap after which crit or multistrike becomes more viable ? And how does this effect the Procs of ...

world-of-warcraft

Frank

@Sterno But their main statement is what matters.

Workshop support is actually an insanely good thing. Providing a superior product for the people who pay for it is exactly what to do.

Rapitor

13:58

@LessPop_MoreFizz Florida Man needs a theme song. (not Friday)

LessPop_MoreFizz

P sure Friday was Made In Florida.

Rapitor

I'm thinking this

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