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11:00 PM
Persian Persuader gives you health for any ammo boxes you pick up.
Needless to say, these 3 items are meant to go together.
(They make up the 1001 DemoKnights set)
 
In any case, conc grenades
winning
 
Wouldn't the booties make more sense with the chargin' targe?
then you can still charge quickly, but you can also pick up ammo.
 
Valve removed all the grenades in TF2 in their strive for better class balance. Except for the Demoman's grenade launcher, which are normal explosive grenades. Oh, and the stickybomb launcher which replaces the... er... det pack?
@badp How is that any better than with the Splendid Screen?
 
@Powerlord it lets you pick up ammo.
 
hm, random urge to play some Minecraft
 
11:03 PM
@badp boots replace launcher, so you can do boots, sword, shield
 
Means that once you lob those 16 grenades you don't have to hunt for a dispenser.
 
goes update her Painterly Pack
 
@badp The metal effect is on the sword, not the shield.
 
@NickT Okay, so that'd leave room for the sticky launcher, not the grenade launcher?
 
psh, grenades were baller
@badp then you'd have no shield, which is what the boots buff
 
11:04 PM
I see.
 
grenades were awesome, they made other weapons obsolete half the time
 
I mean, you can use the new boots and shield with the Half-Zatoichi is you wanted. The main difference is how you collect health.
 
I currently have the persian persuader, the grenade launcher and the splendid screen at any rate
 
@NickT Yes, that was why they got removed from TF2. Thanks for noticing!
 
medic vs. medic would be all about who threw their grenade closest to the other person
ITS CALLED SKILL BRO
:(
 
11:05 PM
I think it's a bit more compromising than just "FLING YOURSELF ONTO ANYBODY AND BE USELESS FOR THE NEXT FOUR SECONDS"
 
In TF2, Medic v. Medic usually comes down to a melee fight.
Granted, you don't see that often.
 
@badp what you talkin about, demoman is useless for all the seconds in the game
 
lolno.
 
roll soldier
noob
:(
 
Oak
@NickT >50% = usually
 
11:07 PM
This Italian server I play on has a few rather nasty demomen
 
P.S. Ullapool Caber = best melee ever on an unsuspecting player.
 
I would have guessed knife, but ok
 
Oak
@Nick unless I have the definition of that word waaay wrong
 
@NickT Well, OK, you have a point there.
Particularly the Your Eternal Reward knife.
 
I don't have what it takes for the YER
 
11:08 PM
@badp It's much harder to use than the normal knife for the first kill.
 
at least it's not as bad as the Naruto weapon
 
Once you get the first kill, it's possible to chain them, since the kill is silent.
 
and any failstab makes the next kill your first kill.
 
Ever since I found the YER, I haven't used any other knives.
 
@Powerlord Apparantly the Ullapool can also be used to pull off a few jumps, from what I hear
 
11:09 PM
Cloak & Dagger + Your Eternal Reward
 
NOTE: You can still hear the knife hit a target if you listen.
 
@KevinY What watch do you us----
 
Yeah, I use the DR.
 
@KevinY Part of one of my standard Spy loadouts.
 
11:09 PM
@badp I tried using the Dead Ringer multiple times – couldn't get the hang of it.
:/
 
I call that loadout "Payload as RED"
 
It's the only way I can play spy
 
doesn't the caber suck more than average melee after it's used?
 
My other loadout is Dead Ringer + Knife + Enforcer.
@NickT Yes, sadly.
 
Disguise as a teammate, get "killed", get behind lines, disguise as enemy before you decloak, hunt for ammo, continue
 
11:10 PM
Which is why it's terrible for most games.
But yeah, as a reminder, all TF2 servers will be stuck in Birthday mode whenever Valve's central server changes days.
 
Is birthday mode activated tomorrow then?
 
@badp Yes.
 
@badp how's that any better than just using a normal cloak watch to slip behind the lines? It's good when there's some really spammy choke....
 
August 24th every year.
 
Yikes. That could be an issue, we had a lot of problems last time we used Birthday
 
11:12 PM
goes to the TF2 wiki and searches for Birthday Mode
 
So, it may tick over in 48ish minutes (when the item server ticks over on Wednesdays).
 
Ahh, I see.
 
@NickT For the original duration of the cloak you're completely invisible, even if touched or damaged, and take greatly reduced damage. If you extend that with ammo, it then becomes like a invisiwatch that needs more metal than usual.
 
h'okay, back.
 
@badp As a side note, I covered this in great depth on the site somewhere.
 
11:13 PM
@Manaಠдಠ Welcome back!
 
Still - people will bump into you, and can't pass through you.
 
Thank you!!
 
does DR dump fire?
 
Yes
 
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A: Cloak and Dagger or normal Invisibility Watch?

PowerlordHaving clocked 538.5 hours as Spy, I think I'm well qualified to answer this question. The Spy has 3 cloaking devices and that all 3 have different uses: Invisibility Watch / The Enthusiast's Timepiece The Invisibility Watch (or its cosmetic twin, The Enthusiast's Timepiece) is the basic, no-f...

 
11:13 PM
...but only when you activate it.
You can only activate the DR when it's fully charged.
If you are on fire, or bleeding, the DR will fix that. After that however you can get on fire or bleeding again, and while you'll take limited damage you're basically dead.
I don't think the DR fixes jarate or mad milk though.
 
@Powerlord so ~3 weeks of playing as spy...
 
(does it @Powerlord?)
 
@badp That's right, despite the tips saying it does.
i.e. the tips are wrong.
Water is the only things that clears Jarate.
Being set on fire sometimes makes it look like it's cleared, but it isn't.
Which is really annoying as Pyro, since you can't be set on fire, but the Jarate color clears anyway.
 
Hello again.
 
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Q: Does the wheel on the wall do anything at all?

badpBriefly before the suicide ending, a red handle is provided to the player. He can turn it 90 degrees. I turned it in my playthrough, but I was left wondering, does it actually do anything?

 
11:19 PM
S...suicide ending? :(
 
I certainly hope Shakugan no Shana gets new music next season. I'm tired of hearing the same theme every episode that has a part at the school. Which is at least once every episode
 
@Powerlord You and everybody else.
 
oh yes, from @ArdaXi
 
@Lazers Is it sad that I retagged that question with ?
 
@mana do you know where all of the upgrade items are for bastion?
 
11:23 PM
@Wipqozn Uhm, there are a lot of them
 
@Lazers the wheels on the wall go round and round
round and round
 
but generally I think there are three of each across the levels and then two in the Proving Grounds
 
@badp: For reference, I did go through and try spinning the wheel and not spinning the wheel, and I couldn't find a difference.
 
@Manaಠдಠ I'm aware. I'm looking for the last stringy bow, or whatever it is called, and figured if I'm going to ask for the locations of those it might just be better to ask for the location of all of the upgrade items.
 
@Powerlord I imagined.
 
11:24 PM
0
Q: There is no link to the (still active) election

Mark TrappThe election's still going on: it doesn't end for another 20 hours. But there's no way to get to it without a direct link. Shouldn't there be some link somewhere for those who haven't voted yet? Otherwise, what's the point of having it continue?

 
@Wipqozn You'll get an overdose of them in New Game+
@GraceNote Seven minutes. Impressive.
 
@Manaಠдಠ True enough. Still, would probably be a good question for google searches.
 
@Manaಠдಠ I'd've been faster if I hadn't deliberately stalled Mark.
 
Oh yeah, I forgot the part about the wheel signifying the futility of your actions. Added now.
 
11:26 PM
I'm spoiling the game for you!!!
 
@Manaಠдಠ I dunno about Grace, but non-trilogy moderators get new meta posts in their inbox.
 
@badp Cool.
 
So sniping meta posts as they're made is slightly easier.
 
oh, there it is. It was just on one of the very last levels.
 
@badp I lost it, unfortunately.
 
11:31 PM
@GraceNote I guess you need a leet feed reader now.
 
I know. It is sad
 
"The Suspension Bridge"? Who comes up with these names?
 
@John I want to say @badp does, but it may have been @GnomeSlice.
or someone else entirely
 
@Powerlord Who all can change the name?
 
11:35 PM
@KevinY Plus all people with blue names.
 
@John I blame @Yijiang for the current iteration
 
Ahh yes, them too.
 
@KevinY @Powerlord Ah ok thanks.
 
and the flurry of people complaining about futile suspensions in this room
 
Who else was suspended?
 
11:36 PM
@badp It could be worse, it could be English.
 
@John Oh, plenty of people. I got suspended twice myself before getting a diamond.
 
@Powerlord Aside of the pictures of drunken cops, I haven't seen much wrong with the EL&U room.
 
Powerlord and LessPopMoreFizz are also aficionados.
 
@John Powerlord, Nick T, GnomeSlice, Dave, Powerlord, LessPop, Arda, Powerlord...
 
@GraceNote So what you're saying is, a better question would be "who hasn't been suspended?"?
 
11:38 PM
@Powerlord Most of the suspensions in English haven't been nearly as ridiculous as the ones here.
@John Me, Kevin, Tom, Fallen, Rebecca, Marco, Tim, CRoss...
 
@GraceNote :D
 
@GraceNote Don't forget me! :P
 
I wasn't sure about you, since you said "else"
 
I don't think I've been suspended, to my surprise.
 
Pretty sure I've never been suspended.
 
11:39 PM
The language and content standards here are more relaxed than elsewhere, given that after all this is a videogame community; however SE at large reviews flags.
 
@badp This. And especially when they're removed from context...
 
@GraceNote So, everyone with blue names?
 
I still am baffled that I got a suspension last week for a picture of two politicians spinning in a circle.
 
@Powerlord Tom and Tim and Kevin don't have blue names.
@Powerlord Also, badp is in the other list.
 
I'm one of you! er, us! er, um.
 
11:45 PM
@LessPopMoreFizz Uh. Wasn't there more to that image...?
 
@Manaಠдಠ They were eating corn dogs.
At the Iowa state fair.
 
Uh. Maybe. Yeah, maybe that was it.
 
What could be more appropriate than politicians consuming delicious foodstuffs at a state-wide public gathering of family fun?
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@GraceNote Alas
 
@Tim You're just too cool.
 
11:49 PM
That must be it
 
Since I'm running AFK for a while anyway...
See, it's corn dogs.
 
Oh no.
minimizes chat while image loads
 
Wholesome delicious fried food.
Being consumed by two of our foremost political figures.
Photoshopped together. And spinning.
 
But does it have to spin?
 
@John Yes.
Let
 
11:52 PM
:1725890 People you have to help yourselves. How can I defend that?
 
It went away! Yay!
 
@John Yes, but did he get suspended?
 
WINNING
 
@Powerlord That is the question...
 
Wow. Less really does get no leniency. That's an hour for him.
 
11:54 PM
@GraceNote For one suspension?
I thought that was 30 minutes.
 
It's usually 30 minutes.
 
@GraceNote What criteria makes it longer?
 
Multiple messages getting flagged. Or, apparently, being @LessPop.
I guess I should've been repeating LessPop's name in my list instead of @Powerlord.
 
Oh wow. I didn't even notice you did that.
 
I think I'm going to post an ITG question with a sockpuppet and see if anyone notices it's really a [game-rec]
 
11:56 PM
The ELU chat is going to make me suffer from a tension-induced nervous breakdown. Holy crap.
 
@NickT We've killed those in the past.
 
0
Q: Minecraft SMP mob statistics

DanieLI'm am trying to build a mob farm in Minecraft SMP, but barely any mobs spawn near it. I know there is a limit of 85 hostile mobs for the whole world. But even when I am the only player logged on, I barely see any. Is there any way that I can get information as to how many mobs are spawned, whic...

 
@Manaಠдಠ Christianity.SE is doing the same to me...
 

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