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kalina
kalina
12:00 AM
First!
 
MBraedley
MBraedley
The last first for Europe.
 
Private Pansy
Private Pansy
@kalina You're late
 
kalina
kalina
Not according to big Ben
 
MBraedley
MBraedley
Are there any Newfies on the bridge?
 
FEichinger
FEichinger
@kalina o/
 
OrigamiRobot
OrigamiRobot
12:06 AM
There are now!
 
MBraedley
MBraedley
@OrigamiRobot is that dog in Newfoundland and can he type first at midnight?
 
OrigamiRobot
OrigamiRobot
@MBraedley No idea.
 
MBraedley
MBraedley
Then it doesn't count!
 
OrigamiRobot
OrigamiRobot
YOU DIDN'T SPECIFY
 
spugsley
spugsley
WTF
I DIED FOR NO REASON
QUESTION TIME
 
MBraedley
MBraedley
12:10 AM
@OrigamiRobot Newfies as in (human) inhabitants of Newfoundland
@spugsley you starved, obviously.
 
spugsley
spugsley
@MBraedley I DIDN'T THO
 
FEichinger
FEichinger
@spugsley Well, what happened, then?
 
MBraedley
MBraedley
@spugsley you died because you left caps lock on
 
Unionhawk
Unionhawk
"WTF I DIED" for that question title
 
spugsley
spugsley
@FEichinger I WILL ASK QUESTION
(I wants reps)
3
THEN I WILL TELL YOU
 
Unionhawk
Unionhawk
12:13 AM
SO GUESS WHO GETS TO WAKE UP AT EARLY O'CLOCK TOMORROW
 
MBraedley
MBraedley
@Unionhawk I'm going to say you
 
Unionhawk
Unionhawk
AYEP
 
Lazers
Lazers
0
Q: I had full sanity, health, and hunger - why did I die?

spugsleyIt was the night of my Day 13 survival. I was sitting at my campfire which I just fed with a log (so it was burning brightly), I had just ate to full, and I had nearly full sanity and health. All of a sudden, this giant shadow hand appears and starts grabbing towards my campsite. Without warning ...

dont-starve
 
user15026
The 2014 hat makes my avatar look quite cross-eyed
 
MBraedley
MBraedley
@AshleyNunn hehe
 
Private Pansy
Private Pansy
12:17 AM
Well you are wearing glasses on top of your glasses
 
Jin
Jin
Hello from Orlando
 
user15026
@PrivatePansy They mostly cover my avatar's glasses
 
spugsley
spugsley
UGHHHHH
NOW I'M DEAD
 
user15026
@spugsley again?
 
spugsley
spugsley
YESSSSSS
 
user15026
12:35 AM
Poor thing.
 
Ronan Forman
Ronan Forman
Happy new year from the unrelenting silence between this world and the next.
 
spugsley
spugsley
Happy New Year from someone who is going to be playing video games all night like a giant loser!
 
user15026
@spugsley You are not a loser, you are awesome
 
Ronan Forman
Ronan Forman
Actually that sounds fun, I might go do that now.
 
spugsley
spugsley
@AshleyNunn it's hard though idk. I always feel like I should be doing something and that I'm not normal by hanging out at home being a lazy
 
user15026
12:49 AM
@spugsley Im at my parents, watching a local junior hockey team play on tv and eating cheesecake
 
Gaming Topics From Outside
Gaming Topics From Outside
0
Q: Can't get MAME to work for Ubuntu

JqmfgI have been trying to set up a computer to use as an arcade cabinet computer, but I can't figure out how to set up MAME and ROMs on it. I have installed MAME with sudo apt-get install mame mame-tools gnome-video-arcade sdlmame sdlmame-tools and I have set up all of the folders and made sure t...

games directory emulator
 
user15026
I had plans, but people got sick, so I am here, which is good enough - I can chill online, watch hockey, eat cheesecake
 
Fluttershy
Fluttershy
@AshleyNunn Same here. :( Boo for people getting sick.
 
user15026
@Fluttershy But we can all keep each other company!
 
Tim Stone
Tim Stone
1:35 AM
Community's Choice vote on Steam has Tomb Raider for only $10 in about 25 minutes if anyone who wanted it was holding out for a better price.
 
Private Pansy
Private Pansy
Should I get Ys I?
 
Tim Stone
Tim Stone
I did, so I guess it's what the cool kids are doing.
 
user20683
@OrigamiRobot
 
user20683

Hardware Engineer - Build the Future of Robotic Toys

MotionFigures

hardwareembeddedarmbluetooth-lowenergy

MotionFigures is building the future of robotic toys and is looking for a hardware engineer to join our team on a part…

Posted on Careers 2.0 on December 31, 2013

 
Private Pansy
Private Pansy
Oh, okay. *buys*
 
OrigamiRobot
OrigamiRobot
1:38 AM
@FrostEngineer Look at all those things I have little to no actual experience with! :P
 
user20683
@OrigamiRobot I figured but still
 
Private Pansy
Private Pansy
@OrigamiRobot You do have an arm, right?
 
OrigamiRobot
OrigamiRobot
@FrostEngineer I'm happy to keep my embedded design at the hobby level for now, but thanks.
 
Private Pansy
Private Pansy
There's something incredibly wonky about my internet connection today
 
Arperum
Arperum
Happy new year bridge!
 
RedRiderX
RedRiderX
1:52 AM
Happy new year!
 
user20683
@PrivatePansy ARM = Advanced RISC Machines
 
user20683
:P
 
qwertie
qwertie
 
Grace Note
Grace Note
Food for thought.
 
MBraedley
MBraedley
@RedRiderX you're either 2 or 3 hours too late or 2 or 3 hours too early. Unless you live in Iceland or Greenland.
 
kalina
kalina
2:26 AM
YAAAAAAAAY
 
kalina
kalina
2:40 AM
all of you Americans are so last year.
9
 
user15026
@kalina hipster.
 
kalina
kalina
...maybe
 
Lazers
Lazers
0
Q: My Minecraft 360 got deleted, Why?

DovahkiinRecently I tried to play Minecraft 360 edition with my sister, and for some reason it only gave me the trial version. Which is strange because I downloaded the game a month after it was released on the 360. I do not know what happened, and I would like to know. Can anyone tell me why this has hap...

minecraft xbox-360
 
Private Pansy
Private Pansy
I need a #9, I have extra #2, #5 and #6
 
kalina
kalina
I don't have a #9 atm
I could probably get you a #9
but you don't love me enough to have my on steam
 
Private Pansy
Private Pansy
2:53 AM
Eh, I could just sell the extras
 
David M
David M
Happy New Year, all.
 
Private Pansy
Private Pansy
@kalina It's strange, like the new year's event wiped out all my memory
Either I'm in a JRPG or the drinks last night were really strong
 
SaintWacko
SaintWacko
I'm so happy to see so many people playing Don't Starve
Also, I need a #9
That's all i need
I have extra 2, 7, and 8
I have 3 eight -.-
 
kalina
kalina
sell them on the market for the going rate
they will sell nearly instantly
 
Private Pansy
Private Pansy
Wheeee, To the Moon just got a holiday patch
 
Trent Hawkins
Trent Hawkins
3:04 AM
Holy balls it freakin' cold out!
 
David M
David M
Don't Starve looks pretty awesome. Is it a stand-alone app or is it played in a browser plug-in?
 
Private Pansy
Private Pansy
@DavidM Standalone, although I think there's Chrome version too
 
David M
David M
I'm on Mac, I see it's supported.
Sweet.
 
kalina
kalina
eww Mac
 
Private Pansy
Private Pansy
Well I'd like to be on mac and cheese too
 
David M
David M
3:09 AM
@kalina My primary use for my computer other than inter-webs and email is photo editing, etc.
Mac is better for that
 
kalina
kalina
have fun with your ridiculously expensive ibm compatible pc
 
David M
David M
@kalina Price is amortized over the life of the unit. Most of the PCs I've owned last half as long before becoming obsolete.
Pay 2-3x more up front, computer is useful 2-3x longer.
 
kalina
kalina
Since both Macs and "PCs" are the same systems and completely compatible with each other, your argument is fundamentally unsound
the hardware ages at the same rate
 
Unionhawk
Unionhawk
And utterly invalid, I might add
 
Ronan Forman
Ronan Forman
user image
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David M
David M
3:12 AM
Not really. MacOS is not compatible with PC unless u do a bunch of crap to get it to run.
I can update my OS on Mac and it runs well even on a 4 year old machine.
 
Ronan Forman
Ronan Forman
 
kalina
kalina
@DavidM the hardware is what becomes obsolete, the hardware is identical to what you can get for windows/linux machines
 
OrigamiRobot
OrigamiRobot
@RonanForman :O
 
Unionhawk
Unionhawk
Also, eww MacOS
 
David M
David M
@kalina I understand. But, the OS plays better with older hardware.
@Unionhawk I'm not going to go Linux
And, EWWWWWW Windows.
 
kalina
kalina
3:14 AM
Windows 8.1 > OSX
 
Unionhawk
Unionhawk
I'm allergic to OSX. It's some sort of condition I have.
 
David M
David M
Based upon your extensive experience with both or a biased decision? I prefer OSX for my personal needs.
 
Unionhawk
Unionhawk
Also I'm allergic to the amount of work required for Linux. Similar condition.
 
Lazers
Lazers
0
Q: How do I start a New Game Plus in Fiz?

tanwardI've completed the story questline, and I want to start a New Game Plus. I can't for the life of me find the button even though I've combed all the screens. Which screen is it on, and where on the screen? I've probably missed it in my carelessness...

fiz
 
kalina
kalina
@DavidM it's fine, I am just bored, I really don't care about what people choose to run as their OS because it doesn't affect me in the slightest
 
David M
David M
3:16 AM
@kalina Me, too. LOL
I really don't give a crap if people use either. But, I must say, that when I go to the mall, if I need a quiet place to think, the Microsoft store is my first choice. It's uncontaminated by people! :-)
 
kalina
kalina
har har
 
Unionhawk
Unionhawk
It's contaminated by... I don't even know
Kinect, I think.
 
ElfSlice
ElfSlice
@Yuki I got chatbanned for a comment about Koreans eating dogs before, so maybe stay away from that in the future.
 
David M
David M
@Unionhawk People who think that Bing is superior to Google. LOL
 
kalina
kalina
@ElfSlice yes but you're GnomeSlice
@DavidM it is
 
Unionhawk
Unionhawk
3:18 AM
Those guys are paid for that
 
David M
David M
is looking to start a war . . .
 
ElfSlice
ElfSlice
@kalina That is not supposed to matter.
 
David M
David M
LMAO
 
kalina
kalina
also, the Surface is better than the iPad 1, which is the correct product to measure a first entry into the tablet market against
 
Unionhawk
Unionhawk
Even @kalina, apparently
 
David M
David M
3:19 AM
@kalina That's like comparing a new car company's first new car to a Model T.
 
FEichinger
FEichinger
Funny how that goes.
 
kalina
kalina
and Windows Phone is better than iOS
 
David M
David M
The market is iterative. Microsoft had the advantage of seeing what Apple got right and wrong.
 
FEichinger
FEichinger
When the newly marketed product is shit, you are only allowed to compare it against the old product's original version, because, hey, it's a first attempt.
 
kalina
kalina
@DavidM Apple had the advantage of seeing what Microsoft got right and got wrong
 
David M
David M
3:20 AM
Win Phone is not a bad product.
 
FEichinger
FEichinger
When the newly marketed product is good, don't you dare compare it to the original version of the old one!
 
David M
David M
@kalina And, look what they managed to do with that information compared to MS
 
FEichinger
FEichinger
Humans are a fascinating species.
 
kalina
kalina
@DavidM yeah, they forgot to add copy and paste
 
Unionhawk
Unionhawk
@fei is not human: confirmed
 
David M
David M
3:21 AM
@kalina Have you used a pre-iPad tablet?
 
kalina
kalina
@DavidM unfortunately
 
David M
David M
Precisely
@kalina I have to use them for work periodically. It is painful!
 
FEichinger
FEichinger
@Unionhawk Oh, I am. In fact, that is yet another delusion amongst all these delusions that make the human race so fascinating: I may think I can objectively observe and analyze these things, but I really can't.
 
Unionhawk
Unionhawk
I have! raises hand it was pretty meh, and not really comparable to tablets of today
 
FEichinger
FEichinger
Which, I guess, could turn into a paradox the moment I analyze myself analyzing ... Hah.
 
David M
David M
3:22 AM
@FEichinger It's OK, it's just the matrix telling you that.
 
FEichinger
FEichinger
@DavidM Don't make jokes about the matrix, it's not unreasonable to think that it already exists.
But I digress.
 
David M
David M
@Unionhawk Before the iPad, NO ONE got the tablet right. Apple made their mistakes, but they still made a piece of disruptive tech
 
kalina
kalina
I am unable to comment on the existence of the Matrix either way
 
Ktash
Ktash
@FEichinger Except that humans are terrible batteries or sources of energy
 
Unionhawk
Unionhawk
I mean, I guess you could put it in a category of convertable tablets of today
 
David M
David M
3:24 AM
@FEichinger If this were the Matrix, we'd all be a bit happier.
 
FEichinger
FEichinger
@Ktash I never said the matrix movie was factual. But the matrix itself may well exist.
 
kalina
kalina
@DavidM humans? happy?
 
Ktash
Ktash
@DavidM No, that was the first iteration. They scrapped that one
 
David M
David M
@Ktash But, they make excellent soup.
 
FEichinger
FEichinger
@DavidM That is, quite literally, the end of the first movie.
 
Private Pansy
Private Pansy
3:24 AM
@DavidM I wouldn't agree with that. My teachers in Secondary school had Windows tablet computers, and the stuff they do with it, you still can't do it with the iPad today
 
Ktash
Ktash
@FEichinger It was actually proved to not be possible for us to be in the matrix a little while ago
let me find the paper on it
 
Unionhawk
Unionhawk
And yes, what @pri said
 
user15026
@Ktash please do, I am most interested in that
 
David M
David M
@PrivatePansy I'm not saying that they didn't have their good points. I'm saying that the experience was a hobbled version of their desktop operating system
 
Ktash
Ktash
 
kalina
kalina
3:26 AM
@DavidM hence Windows 8.1
 
David M
David M
And, those compromises made it difficult to use.
 
Ktash
Ktash
I'm pretty sure someone did it, let me see if I can track that part down
 
David M
David M
@kalina I haven't used it enough to comment.
 
Unionhawk
Unionhawk
Not... Really. See: convertable tablets
 
kalina
kalina
but since the Surface Pro 2 is still only a second generation product, comparing it against current tablets running Android or from Apple is still not a valid comparison
 
David M
David M
3:27 AM
Which makes me 20x more intelligent than most bloggers, who do it anyway.
 
Unionhawk
Unionhawk
A laptop with the option to use handwriting and stuff
 
David M
David M
@kalina Why does MS get a pass? Are their engineers working with stone tools?
 
Unionhawk
Unionhawk
That's what my experience with them are, back in 2008
 
FEichinger
FEichinger
@Ktash From the quick grasp I took, it argues more from a perspective of "are we kept in a simulation by whatever comes after us" - which is a valid idea, but not necessarily required.
 
kalina
kalina
@DavidM for the same reason everybody gave Apple a pass with their second generation product missing features
 
David M
David M
3:28 AM
@kalina The pass was simple. People used the product and liked it. Sold billions of them
 
Gaming Topics From Outside
Gaming Topics From Outside
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Q: L4D2 intense lag with addons

MegaRodeonMy copy of Left 4 Dead 2 was downloaded during the free download period on Steam (the Christmas Special), so I'm wondering if this is one of the problem. I don't know why, but without addons, my laptop seems to be running the game fine. However, the map loading part is really slow though, took ...

windows-8 memory performance graphics-card gaming
 
Ktash
Ktash
 
David M
David M
Well, millions anyway
 
kalina
kalina
@DavidM must be difficult to sell a product in a market with no competition
 
David M
David M
@kalina Inventing a new market is not exactly a simple feat.
 
kalina
kalina
3:29 AM
ecosystem lock in works in the same way that MMOs do - once you've got enough invested in a platform you don't want to move away from it
 
Ktash
Ktash
 
kalina
kalina
Microsoft's second generation products are good, which is why their market share is increasing
 
user15026
Seeing UW != University of Waterloo is weird
 
Ktash
Ktash
@AshleyNunn Seeing UW != University of Washington is weird :P
 
user15026
@Ktash Shush you ;)
 
David M
David M
3:30 AM
@kalina If MS makes a better product, it will win. People are not that loyal in the days of 99 cent apps.
 
kalina
kalina
I would buy a surface 2 if it was good value for money
which is the reason I don't own an iPad (anymore)
 
Private Pansy
Private Pansy
So, yeah, if you have To the Moon on Steam, the game should have received an update this morning. Pop into the game's Steam folder and play the short bonus content :P
 
kalina
kalina
(they're not good value for money)
 
David M
David M
It's not like when I used to have thousands of $ software.
@kalina I'm not even a huge fan of the iPad. I own two of them, and I use them primarily to entertain my kids.
 
kalina
kalina
One thing I will say about my iPads
 
Ktash
Ktash
3:32 AM
@DavidM Actually, many old brand loyalties are still very strong, and cause massive problems for new comers. Apple being the primary powerhouse here
 
kalina
kalina
they held their value exceptionally well
 
FEichinger
FEichinger
@Ktash From what I read now, they're trying to simulate a universe, and then see if what we're living in looks like a simulation (due to some of the constraints imposed on the simulation itself), huh?
 
kalina
kalina
I sold my iPad one for pretty much the price I paid for my Nexus 7
felt like I was ripping the guy off
 
David M
David M
@Ktash Brand loyalty is different from lock in.
Brand loyalty lasts only as long as people are satisfied. That's why MS got their asses handed to them (in the personal market) when people started noticing Mac again.
 
Ktash
Ktash
@FEichinger Any complete simulation of the universe must itself be able to contain a simulation of the universe...
 
FEichinger
FEichinger
3:34 AM
@Ktash Ah, yes, that makes more sense, although it assumes the simulation is indeed "complete".
 
kalina
kalina
@Ktash How do you simulate that which you do not have a full understanding of?
 
David M
David M
I'm going to assume that I'm one of the oldest people in this room. I used MS products for over 20 years and switched.
 
kalina
kalina
@DavidM you must be old
 
Ktash
Ktash
@DavidM Not quite. Apple marketing has done a good job of avoiding the brand loyalty issue by painting MS as evil. Which, they have been doing since long before the 2000's. They've turned brand loyalty into a hipster movement, which is weird, and still working in their favor. It is considered trendy to not be a part of the MS behemoth. It's all still a game played out on a global scale with people's money
 
David M
David M
38
 
kalina
kalina
3:35 AM
you've used Microsoft products for as long as I've been alive, and then switched
ah, you're only half the age of @Sterno
 
Ktash
Ktash
@kalina You simulate in isolation. You simulate pieces you understand and work up
 
David M
David M
@Ktash Marketing did play a big part. But, really, the iPod opened the door to Apple.
 
Ktash
Ktash
if you are able to get to a complete simulation, then you have the correct models
 
FEichinger
FEichinger
@Ktash Arguably, we're not even capable of determining what a "complete simulation" would be.
 
David M
David M
Once people saw an MP3 player that "just worked". They looked at what else they had for sale.
 
kalina
kalina
3:37 AM
The days of Jobs are over anyway
Give it another decade and Apple will be nearly dead again
 
David M
David M
@kalina He ran the company single handedly.
Pulled every lever himself.
 
Ktash
Ktash
@DavidM Apple did a good job of creating a new market. Arguably, I think Nintendo did the same thing
 
FEichinger
FEichinger
We have yet to fully grasp large parts of the universe. And even if we could grasp and represent these currently unknown parts - we could only prove a simulation wrong, if we can prove the models it uses wrong. Since we have to use those very models to do so, we can, at best, prove a dissonance in the models - which would be a glitch to the simulation and thereby actually prove the existance of the simulation. A true complete simulation would be indistinguishable from the real universe.
 
David M
David M
I use Apple's products because I find the integration seamless and easy.
@Ktash Absolutely. But, MS did a good job of eating their lunch with Kinnect.
 
Ktash
Ktash
But, MS did the same thing years ago. And their trying to again. That's everybodies new goal. It's just a race to who get the right one
 
David M
David M
3:39 AM
@Ktash Yes.
We are the consumers. Competition benefits us.
@FEichinger You don't need to set your net so wide. We don't understand large portions of our own planet yet.
 
Ktash
Ktash
@FEichinger I haven't read the full paper, nor any scientific responses. It was just in the news around here because it happened at UW. It was like the game fold.it a while back. So, I can't say for sure what proves or disproves it all
@DavidM Yes. It is my favorite thing. And the primary reason I hate webkit lol
 
David M
David M
@Ktash In the days when MS was the ONLY game in town, they got away with releasing crap product. Win 95, Vista, etc. Many users are still running XP for God's sake.
MacOS will hopefully benefit Win users as much as Win improvements benefit Mac users.
 
kalina
kalina
It's not Microsoft's fault that OS2 and Linux were steaming piles of crap
 
David M
David M
No, but they didn't have enough pressure to clean up their own product.
 
Private Pansy
Private Pansy
I turned on the Ys configuration tool, and suddenly there's a girl staring at me from the middle of my screen
 
David M
David M
3:45 AM
@kalina Not to sound like an old man, but you are too young to remember when the BSOD was a daily event. And, people's computers used to get so screwed up because they didn't understand the thousands of messages they got asking them to change a setting, etc. etc. etc.
 
Unionhawk
Unionhawk
OLD
 
David M
David M
Mac set a new standard of stability, and MS, to their credit, had to stand up to it.
 
Ktash
Ktash
I think MS got stale, and safe. But it is hard for big companies to justify the risk of their whole business. So it's a trade off. If the ships not sinking, it's hard to convince people to abandon ship
 
Unionhawk
Unionhawk
ahem excuse me
 
Ktash
Ktash
even if you see the iceberg ahead
@DavidM I, actually, don't agree with this
I think MS got better at crashing because they felt they needed to for their customers
 
David M
David M
3:46 AM
@Ktash Worse than that. The IT managers had long memories of the last times they upgraded and spent months reconfiguring.
 
Ktash
Ktash
where they really got stale was IE
 
Private Pansy
Private Pansy
@DavidM It certainly set a new standard for shininess. Not sure about everything else.
 
David M
David M
@PrivatePansy Shininess counts.
 
Ktash
Ktash
Yeah, that is MS's current burden. Trying to convince the IT community that upgrading isn't the end of the world. Which is a challenge given configuration options that have to support
 
David M
David M
@Ktash That hits the nail on the head.
 
kalina
kalina
3:48 AM
my understanding is that various portions of Mac OSX are actually from BSD + the mach kernel
so basically, OSX borrowed their stability from somebody else rather than "setting a new standard"
 
Ktash
Ktash
Personally, I'm in the camp that all the OS's are stinking piles of crap. Though I give MS credit for their huge risk with Win8. I think it was a misstep, but they took a step, which I give them credit for
 
David M
David M
Apple actually has a HUGE advantage there. They make their own hardware, and they don't have to worry about making it compatible.
 
Ktash
Ktash
@DavidM This is really the real kicker
MS is stable, but the hardware variety they have to support, and the varying quality of manufacturers gives them lots of problems
 
David M
David M
I remember when you used to say "IBM PC" as one phrase.
And, anything else was referred to as a clone.
 
Ktash
Ktash
but I prefer that to overpriced machines and no customizability
 
David M
David M
3:50 AM
Gather around children . . . I will tell you tales of the old days.
LMAO
 
kalina
kalina
you put spaces in your ellipsis
 
Private Pansy
Private Pansy
My copy of Blue is the Warmest Color arrived yesterday, and it's really really nice
 
David M
David M
@kalina Shit yeah I do!
And you edited mine out of a post once! LOL
 
Ktash
Ktash
@DavidM Heh, I may be young, but I've been around computers my whole life
 
David M
David M
I also prefer two spaces after a period.
 
kalina
kalina
3:51 AM
modern macs are "ibm compatibles" but still get the bonus of very select hardware
 
Ktash
Ktash
@DavidM BLASPHEMER!!!
 
kalina
kalina
if you try and run osx on random hardware it will just die
 
David M
David M
@Ktash Me, too. My Dad had a terminal in our house in 1977!
 
kalina
kalina
really? We've just moved from computing to a general history lesson?
 
Unionhawk
Unionhawk
Apparently?
 
kalina
kalina
3:53 AM
I know it's New Years Day and all that, but we don't need to go that far back into the distant past
 
user15026
@DavidM I wouldn't be alive for ten more years at that point....
 
kalina
kalina
most people in here wouldn't be alive at that point
except @Sterno
 
David M
David M
You haven't lived until you had a 3270 terminal with a 900 baud modem that was the size of a Hyundai
 
kalina
kalina
who would have finished Uni and already be working
 
Unionhawk
Unionhawk
@kal you rang?
 
kalina
kalina
3:54 AM
I... didn't ping you
 
Ktash
Ktash
@kalina World history?
 
David M
David M
Punch cards and 8 inch floppies.
 
kalina
kalina
NO
NO HISTORY LESSON
hehe... you said 8 inch floppy
4
 
Unionhawk
Unionhawk
Shh pretend there's an @ there
 
kalina
kalina
sorry
 
David M
David M
3:55 AM
@kalina If it's floppy and 8 inches, it's gotta be impressive!
2
 
kalina
kalina
@DavidM you'd hope!
 
David M
David M
Personally, I wouldn't care either way. Not my thing. But, yes . . .
 
kalina
kalina
*twitch*
 
Private Pansy
Private Pansy
@kalina I'm just surprised you haven't set fire to him yet
 
kalina
kalina
so, computing history from 1993 onwards
 
OrigamiRobot
OrigamiRobot
3:58 AM
@DAVIDM'S 8 INCH FLOPPY MAKES @KALINA TWITCH: DATA ACCEPTED
 
David M
David M
OK, so I graduated from High School . . . and . . .
 
kalina
kalina
doom was released, cpu speeds were measured in megahertz, hard disks were an actual thing, tapes were no longer in use
 
Ktash
Ktash
Two spaces after a sentence and periods instead of …, I just don't think we're speaking the same language
 
Unionhawk
Unionhawk
My phone will physically not let me do space separated elipses, otherwise I'd so it to annoy
 
David M
David M
Hard disks were more like 1980s
 
kalina
kalina
3:59 AM
1980s predates my existence
world was in black and white as far as I'm concerned
 
David M
David M
Black and white is beautiful
 
Ktash
Ktash
Alt + 0 1 3 3, for mac users Opt + ;
…
 
David M
David M
 
Unionhawk
Unionhawk
Therefore no spaces in elipses qed
 
Private Pansy
Private Pansy
@DavidM It's overrated
 
David M
David M
4:01 AM
Not to us colorblind people.
 
MBraedley
MBraedley
Happy new year! (North American first!)
 
kalina
kalina
@MBraedley you're a minute late
 
Unionhawk
Unionhawk
Well aren't you special
 
MBraedley
MBraedley
@kalina nonsense
 
Unionhawk
Unionhawk
Also, 59 minutes early
 
David M
David M
4:02 AM
 
kalina
kalina
@MBraedley A FULL MINUTE
@Unionhawk America has multiple timezones silly
 
David M
David M
 
kalina
kalina
@MBraedley MERRY NEW YEAR!
 
David M
David M
@PrivatePansy Which one tells more story?
 
Unionhawk
Unionhawk
SHH
 
kalina
kalina
4:03 AM
@DavidM the colour one, it has more data in it
 
Ktash
Ktash
@DavidM The second. I'm not worried about the bike sliding backwards, and I can see through the cab windows ;P
 
David M
David M
@kalina Not necessarily. It started as color photo.
 
Ktash
Ktash
In other news, ☃
 
Gaming Topics From Outside
Gaming Topics From Outside
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Q: Issues with libGL on Fedora 20 - unable to load driver swrast?

jflory7Firstly, before I explain my problem, I have referred to the question previously asked on Ask.Fedora about the libGL error, which can be seen here. I have been trying to play the game "FTL", and I have been running into problems where the graphics perform extraordinarily poorly, and the sound ke...

fedora intel integrated-graphics gaming
 
Ktash
Ktash
Also, ❆
@DavidM Data is still being discarded when it is converted to JPG format. In fact, because it is not lossless, in theory, you could lose data with every save :P
 
David M
David M
4:07 AM
True. True. But I work in RAW then export.
 
Ktash
Ktash
And CC @AshleyNunn about the snow. You like that, if I remember
Haha, you're throwing away a lot of data then ;)
 
user15026
@Ktash You remember right! IT IS SO AWESOME
 
Ktash
Ktash
I need to improve it
 
user15026
Its snoooooooowiiiiiiing
 
David M
David M
Who needed those damned pixels!
 
Ktash
Ktash
4:09 AM
So, professional curiosity is getting the better of me @DavidM. Do you use Photoshop? And are you part of the CC?
@AshleyNunn It is m'lady
 
David M
David M
@PrivatePansy Instagram is overrated. Fine B&W is not.
 
Ktash
Ktash
Eventually, I want to make it so you can make wind go through and blow the flakes around, but I haven't got there yet
 
David M
David M
@Ktash I mostly work in Lightroom. But, yes I'm not an aperture guy.
 
Ktash
Ktash
@DavidM Nice. Lightroom is great. I haven't had much time to play around with it, but I hear nothing but good from other photographers
 
David M
David M
CC = Creative community?
 
Ktash
Ktash
4:11 AM
was just curious
CC is creative cloud
 
David M
David M
Ah. Yes. I had a full subscription, but downgraded to Photoshop/LR only.
I wasn't using the other apps.
 
Ktash
Ktash
Yeah, for photographers, that's a lot of times a much better deal
 
user15026
@Ktash That would be so neat!
 
David M
David M
If you're interested.
 
Ktash
Ktash
@AshleyNunn Yeah. I've got an idea on how I want to make it happen, just haven't yet
@DavidM Yeah, I saw that the other day. It's good. You're certainly very talented :)
 
David M
David M
4:13 AM
I am technically a professor, so I got it for $29US/month. But, the downgrade was $9
@Ktash Thanks!
 
Ktash
Ktash
Yeah, the education deals are really good, imo
 
David M
David M
Yeah! I have a BS prof appointment at a Medical College. Gets me big discounts!
 
Ktash
Ktash
heh, nice
 
Ullallulloo
Ullallulloo
 
user43095
2013-12-30 12:53:59, Error                 MOUPG  CSetupManager::Execute(355): Result = 0x800705BB
2013-12-30 12:54:03, Error                 MOUPG  CSetupHost::Execute(204): Result = 0x800705BB
2013-12-30 14:52:07, Error      [0x08039d] MIG    Cannot add mapping for user profile C:\Users\Jeffrey. Error: 1009: Win32Exception: The configuration registry database is corrupt. [0x000003F1] __cdecl Mig::CIndirectKeyMapper::CIndirectKeyMapper(class UnBCL::String *,struct HKEY__ *,class UnBCL::String *,class UnBCL::String *,int,int,const Mig::HiveLoadRetryOptions *)[gle=0x000000cb]
 
David M
David M
4:18 AM
@Ktash I assume you have use for the rest of the software. Much more useful for web design, etc.
 
user43095
Why do I get this when updating to Windows 8.1
 
user43095
Halp
 
David M
David M
@kalina BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
@Ktash Lightroom is a game changer. LR 1 was myeh, but from LR 2 on it became a reason to barely ever open PS.
 
user43095
1
Q: Why do I get error 0x0070004 when trying to update to Windows 8.1 from Windows 8?

Jeffrey LinSo, I'm trying to update Windows 8 to Windows 8.1 via the Windows Store, but every time I attempt to, the update downloads properly, but then I get the error: Windows 8.1 This app wasn't installed - view details When I click on it, it says: Something happened and the Windows 8.1 could...

windows-8 windows-8.1-upgrade
 
Fluttershy
Fluttershy
 
ElfSlice
ElfSlice
4:29 AM
@Fluttershy why
 
Fluttershy
Fluttershy
Because reasons. That's why.
 
ElfSlice
ElfSlice
Oh.
 
Yuki
Yuki
@Fluttershy And raisins.
 
Frank
Frank
I have one leg, the waist, and weaponry left for my last model. I've been spending too much time building these, I think.
Also, I definitely need to paint the gold bits; its clear plastic with a gold foil on top of it. Sanding kills the foil, making it look rather unsightly.
 
Private Pansy
Private Pansy
4:44 AM
 
ElfSlice
ElfSlice
I wish I could hide images on mobile chat
Now my mom wants to know why I'm looking at My Little Pony
thxz
 
user15026
because chat is why
 
Yuki
Yuki
@ElfSlice Why don't you say "because people are posting My Little Pony pictures"?
I mean, that explanation is fairly straightforward.
 
ElfSlice
ElfSlice
I guess that came out kind of rude, wasn't my intention
post ponies if you want
 
Ullallulloo
Ullallulloo
One hour...
 
user15026
4:57 AM
@Yuki Yeah, that would work.
 
MBraedley
MBraedley
@Ullallulloo an hour and a half, if you mean since it's been 2014 on continental North America.
 
Ullallulloo
Ullallulloo
@MBraedley It's 11 p.m. where I live.
 
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