The Bridge

The linked meta Q has absolutely nothing to do with the question at hand. And more importantly: Absolutely nothing to do with the reason we closed it.

Braiam

FEichinger

If we had closed it because it was about piracy we would have used the bloody piracy reason. Jesus, how hard is that to grasp?

Braiam

3:17 AM

don't worry, most of the time, people don't read what they are doing...

but either way, you can't fix humanity...

MBraedley

@FEichinger I would disagree that the meta question isn't relevant. The question is clearly about an aspect of piracy

FEichinger

@MBraedley The reason we closed the question is that we are no experts on the who and how of piracy. The meta Q has nothing to do with that at all.

If we had closed it because it's about piracy, I would fully agree. But we didn't.

David M

@FEichinger - I think it's moderately relevant. The poster doesn't outright claim he pirated it. But, then again, all he said was "I downloaded the blah blah blah"

3ventic

The fact that skidrow makes cracks for games is irrelevant. The question itself has nothing to do with gaming.

Trent Hawkins

@Braiam Well, you can, but there's all sorts of laws and stuff that get in the way.

3ventic

3:21 AM

It's closer to game developing than gaming

FEichinger

@DavidM That has nothing to with why we closed it, though.

MBraedley

@FEichinger it doesn't matter why we closed it in this case, since it's still about piracy.

David M

What was the final reason for closing it?

MBraedley

This question appears to be off-topic because it is about people or groups involved in software piracy, not about playing games. — FEichinger 59 mins ago

Trent Hawkins

> This question does not appear to be about videogames or videogame consoles within the scope defined in the help center.

Braiam

3:22 AM

the reason to close it is very important, if we close stuff with the wrong reason, we are doing it wrong...

FEichinger

@MBraedley It's not. That's what I'm saying: It isn't "about piracy", and that's why we specifically didn't close it for that.

Sepia Lazers

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Q: How is a question about who someone is offtopic and promoting piracy?

So this question got closed: Who is SKIDROW? It should have stayed open because I cannot see any copyright violation or promotion of piracy or supporting it. As I said in my comments, asking who Hitler was is also not promoting fascism or supporting the holocaust. Therefore, the question should...

discussion

MBraedley

Except your very custom close reason seems to contradict that

user15026

@SepiaLazers a wild meta question appears

Trent Hawkins

@SepiaLazers saw that coming.

Braiam

3:23 AM

@SepiaLazers and that happens...

FEichinger

@MBraedley No, it doesn't. I very specifically do not say "about piracy", but "about people or groups involved in piracy"

That's a fundamental difference.

MBraedley

@FEichinger in my view, in the context of Arqade, there isn't. We don't support piracy. Full stop. That means we don't support people that are explicitly involved in piracy.

David M

@FEichinger @MBraedley - I think it's off-topic period. It's like asking who is Shigeru Miyamoto. It's vaguely about gaming, but how is it on topic for this site?

MBraedley

In this case, there was explicit mention of a person involved with piracy, with the implication of getting closer to that community, i.e. to pirate games.

David M

@MBraedley - Entirely true.

FEichinger

3:29 AM

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A: How is a question about who someone is offtopic and promoting piracy?

And I will repeat it once more: We did not close it because it's about piracy. The mere mention of the word "piracy" in the close reason does not suddenly make the close reason "It's about piracy." We closed it for this reason: This question appears to be off-topic because it is about people...

David M

But I would say the fact that it is just a bad question in general makes it close able.

FEichinger

@DavidM No. Just, no.

David M

So would it be on topic to ask: "Who is Ubisoft?"

MBraedley

@DavidM no, being a bad question is not reason itself to close

David M

I misphrased.

I meant, bad topic for the site.

MBraedley

3:32 AM

@DavidM probably, but it would be down voted into oblivion.

David M

Fair enough

FEichinger

It was your arguing point though. Now you try to make it look different. i.imgur.com/QbAEd4F.png — Assylum 2 mins ago

David M

I would have tarred it with the same brush, but I can accept that the more experienced folk disagree.

FEichinger

You have got to be fucking kidding me.

Seriously, now? Seriously?

This is ridiculous.

spugsley

fucking ughhhhhhhhhhhhhh

I got into a huge fight with my mom

I am a fucking adult. How can this still happen?

user15026

3:34 AM

@spugsley oh no :( hugs and gives cupcakes

user15026

Also, I dunno, but I got into a series of small skirmish fights with my mom ALL DAY

user15026

so I sympathize

FEichinger

Why did my comment get removed? Stop censoring me because you disagree. I am done. This is just pointless. Do what you want, but the ability to discuss is clearly not a strength of this site. Which it should be because it is community moderated. But I guess you are only part of the community when you kiss some butts. — Assylum 18 secs ago

user15026

and guve hugs

spugsley

@AshleyNunn Since my brother had surgery I have been by his side constantly. I go visit him EVERY day. And today she basically told me what I needed to do and that I need to make more of an effort and yet she's BARELY BEEN TO SEE HIM

David M

3:35 AM

@spugsley Unfortunately, your parents will never fully be able to see you as anything but their child. Even as an adult. I'm 38 and my mother still tells me to be careful when I go outside.

spugsley

she said "I've been by his bedside since this all happened."

SHE HAS SEEN HIM TWICE

user15026

@spugsley argh, people like that suck lots of sucking. Just remember you know what is truth and what isnt, and don't let her crap get sucked into you and be truth

David M

@spugsley It sounds like she's redirecting her own guilt at you.

spugsley

@AshleyNunn <3

user15026

because, well, she's wrong and you are the most awesome bean

spugsley

3:36 AM

@DavidM that's my take on it

@AshleyNunn you are lovely. Thank you. I know the truth

David M

@spugsley My advice. Let it pass.

@spugsley She will likely come to regret it, and if you let it go, you're allowing to pass peacefully.

spugsley

yeah. My instinct is to call her and say whatever I can to make her feel better because her being angry at me makes me VERY anxious. But she's really wrong this time. And I can't apologize

David M

@spugsley Don't apologize either. It doesn't make it better. Just let it pass over you.

user15026

@spugsley dont apologize. you did nothing wrong.

user15026

you are wonderful and awesome and she is being a bully.

user15026

3:37 AM

it will pass

user15026

I promise.

SaintWacko

And know that we are all here and we are all your friends and we all support you

spugsley

<3 thanks guys. I feel better

@SaintWacko bawwww thank you <3

though on a happier note, my brother had a very good day today in therapy :) Lots more progress. And he has a discharge date!

David M

NICE!

user15026

@spugsley Heck yes that is best news

spugsley

3:39 AM

yes!

David M

@spugsley - I'm new here, but do you mind if I ask what type of surgery? (I can't help it, I'm a doctor . . .)

user15026

@DavidM Seriously? Of what? is a curious person

David M

Anesthesiology

user15026

Shiny! :)

David M

Not after I get through with you . . . Then everything is a nice dull . . . LOL

spugsley

3:41 AM

@DavidM no problem :) Welcome. He had an emergency surgery on his L3 and L4 discs. They herniated and his legs went numb and he lost control of his bodily functions. So now he's in therapy to learn how to do everything again

David M

@spugsley That's actually got an excellent prognosis.

The spinal cord ends around L1-2. So, it's just the individual nerve roots. And, people usually make a full recovery from that.

spugsley

@DavidM yup :) They said it could take a few months to regain all his feelings but otherwise, he's good

David M

@spugsley Best of luck to him!

spugsley

thank you very much <3

David M

I used to do exclusively neurosurgical anesthesia. So, I've had a fair amount of experience there.

ElfSlice

3:43 AM

bed

spugsley

@ElfSlice night!

And now I believe I will go edit today's picture :) Be back in a bit!

David M

@elf G'nite

user15026

@DavidM I have had a lot of anesthesia for neurological reasons! :P

Lazers

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Q: Do i need to be online to obtain Trophies on a PS4?

i juts learned that unlike the PS3 or PS Vita i can't view trophies offline on the PS4 (for the time being), with that said i am wondering, in order for me to setup/obtain trophies do i need to be online or can i do this offline NOTE: by setup trophies i mean initially starting up the game and n...

ps4

David M

See, and you guys just thought I was some deranged old man . . .

2

user20683

3:45 AM

@DavidM Being deranged and a practicing physician are not mutually exclusive.

5

user15026

@FrostEngineer thank you, my dear, you typed it faster than my brain can currently handle

David M

@FrostEngineer NOTE I said "just"

user15026

@DavidM I like you.

David M

@AshleyNunn Be careful, that's how it begins.

user15026

@DavidM oooh, but how does it end? :D

David M

3:50 AM

@AshleyNunn In my experience . . . pancakes at a diner.

user15026

@DavidM I like pancakes

David M

@AshleyNunn Who doesn't?

user15026

Like for serious I like them a lot

user15026

@DavidM people who don't get that pancakes are pretty much the best food

David M

@AshleyNunn That is pretty much axiomatic.

user15026

3:52 AM

@DavidM help my vocabulary is broken and I cant find that word

David M

True in and of itself without needing proof.

user15026

@DavidM fair enough

user15026

but I suck at logic

user15026

but I make damn tasty pancakes

David M

user15026

3:53 AM

I made cinnamon roll pancakes once

David M

Nice!

We have a place near us where they make hundreds of types of pancakes.

Ktash

@AshleyNunn want. Like super want

David M

Including those

user15026

@DavidM ITS LIKE PANCAKE NIRVANA

David M

It's called Chip's

Trent Hawkins

3:54 AM

@AshleyNunn You had me at cinnamon, but confused me at roll+pancake.

user15026

now I want to start whatever it is that we were starting that ends in pancakes if it ends in pancakes at the pancake nirvana place

user15026

@TrentHawkins take pancake, swirl in the sugary cinnamon goop inside a cinnamon roll, cook, cover in frosting, stick in face

David M

@AshleyNunn Unfortunately, it was my non-sequitor way to sound dark and mysterious. When called out on, I have nothing . . . LMAO!

But I do know a great place for pancakes!

LOL

user15026

@DavidM Hey, I will do a lot for pancakes

David M

@AshleyNunn My mother warned me about girls like you. In it for the pancakes . . .

user20683

3:57 AM

@DavidM My mother warned me as well. Fat lot of good that did.

user15026

@DavidM I am kind and sweet and innocent. Ask @FrostEngineer he knows

user15026

@FrostEngineer HEY

user15026

YOU ARE MALIGNING MY DELICATE HONOR

user20683

@AshleyNunn dies laughing

David M

@AshleyNunn I was never sweet, and probably never innocent (at least that I can remember).

user15026

3:58 AM

@DavidM licks herself I taste like syrup

user15026

thats sorta sweet

Sepia Lazers

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Q: Prison Architect version specific tags

I would like to see alpha-version specific tags used on Prison Architect questions to help me filter out questions/problems that have most likely been fixed in an update. New releases are fairly frequent so it would also remove the need to ask the OP which version they are running before being ...

discussion tags

user15026

(in my defence I just finished eating waffles)

David M

Resists urge to make VERY inappropriate joke regarding flexibility

user15026

@DavidM awww no fun

David M

3:59 AM

@AshleyNunn I don't want to be reminded again that this chat is googleable, etc. etc.

user15026

@DavidM Fair enough, but now you have piqued my curiosity

user15026

:D

user20683

@DavidM It is but it's also like 2 million messages

user15026

Seriously?

user15026

Just us, or network?

user20683

4:00 AM

Just this

user15026

hot damn

user15026

how many of those are terrible late night innuendo fests? :D

David M

Well, in that case . . .

FEichinger

@AshleyNunn A lot of them.

David M

@AshleyNunn You're awfully flexible if you can taste that!

user15026

4:01 AM

@DavidM high-fives

Ktash

@AshleyNunn I regret nothing

user15026

@Ktash of course not!

David M

@Ktash Then you haven't lived long enough or hard enough.

Ktash

@DavidM I've done both those things. But I still have no regrets

I hate you ' key

you are my mortal enemy

I shall smite you with the power of a thousand suns

user15026

@Ktash what?

user15026

4:03 AM

oh, okay, processed it

user15026

my brain is slow

Ktash

@AshleyNunn It's ok, we like you anyway

user15026

@Ktash yaaaaay <3

user15026

augh I found my stash of pixie sticks

user15026

tonight is awesomer

spugsley

4:04 AM

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

I'm done :)

user15026

@spugsley done?

spugsley

I love when things go exactly as I expect / better

my photo

David M

@spugsley Let's see, let's see!

spugsley

it only took a couple of minutes to edit as opposed to hours and hours

user15026

@spugsley oooooooooooooooooh

spugsley

4:05 AM

Ktash

@spugsley creepy, but good

spugsley

today is Day 269 :)

Ktash

I really like the one before that too :)

David M

Well done!

user15026

@spugsley hot damn, you are awesome :D

David M

4:06 AM

U doing a 365?

spugsley

@DavidM yup :)

David M

I've never had the time!

spugsley

@DavidM flickr.com/photos/slpugsley if you're interested :) here's them all

@DavidM yeah it's tough. I definitely hit speed bumps and skip sometimes but it's been a really good experience. I've learned a lot!

David M

@spugsley It's dark, but I dig it!

I took off my hat, check out my avatar.

@spugsley dmisita.com/bestof/index.html

Private Pansy

@AshleyNunn Logic defying pancakes?

spugsley

4:13 AM

@DavidM you took all these?

David M

Yes

Private Pansy

Also, I died in Fallen London

David M

@spugsley The camera in my avatar is my Grandfather's. He was a pro photog. It was my tribute to his memory.

spugsley

@DavidM nice :) I love that vintage camera, and those are great shots

David M

@spugsley Thanks!

spugsley

4:14 AM

@DavidM that's lovely :)

David M

@spugsley When I was very young, he tried to teach me about painting and drawing (his favorites), and I was crap at them. But, the lessons stuck because I was so young. And, it translated into photography.

@spugsley I took pictures and people would ask how I did it. My response was always, "Doesn't everyone do that?" I took me years to realize that he taught me about things like perspective, framing, etc. before I was old enough to know what they were.

spugsley

@DavidM that's amazing :D

Ktash

Barring some miracle play, I think I just won my fantasy football league without watching a single game this season

David M

@spugsley Are yours selfies? Or is someone else shooting for you?

Ktash

difficulty settings for that game must be low

user15026

4:18 AM

@Ktash laughs they must be

Ktash

Yeah, and the AI is terrible ;P

Private Pansy

:12883997

Ktash

@PrivatePansy well reply to you too

3ventic

:12885171

David M

@PrivatePansy Is that a new emoticon?

Guy vomiting numbers?

3ventic

4:21 AM

empty replies are the best

spugsley

@DavidM nope, I do them all myself :) sometimes with help for set up if someone is around. But I have a tripod and a remote timer

3ventic

It's not by default that you can just type : and click up arrow to reply, is it?

David M

@spugsley Doubly impressive

Ktash

@3ventic no

David M

@3ventic I think we know his ATM pin, now

Private Pansy

4:22 AM

Blah, give me a break, my phone's misbehaving :p

spugsley

@DavidM well thank you <3

Ktash

mine is setup that up just selects chat so that I can reply/edit with keyboard shortcuts

OrigamiRobot

@spugsley I'm the lackey!

spugsley

@OrigamiRobot hehehe :3

3ventic

Oh right

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Q: Chat Reply Helper for Stack Exchange sites

Press : to start replying to a previous message. Press ↑ as many times as you need to mark the desired message. What does it do? First of all, the Chat Reply Helper for Stack Exchange sites provides a simple key combination to select a message to reply to. This removes the need to grab the...

script chrome-extensions chat greasemonkey

It's that.

Private Pansy

4:24 AM

Candy cannon! for @AshleyNunn

Ktash

I win!

MBraedley

@3ventic doesn't work on iPad. Therefore useless

3ventic

@MBraedley Therefore iPad is useless*

Okay, it has uses

like getting your accounts stolen

user15026

@PrivatePansy best.

spugsley

TIME TO PLAY DONT STARVE

user15026

4:27 AM

@spugsley dont die <3

spugsley

D:

Private Pansy

@AshleyNunn Don't Starve /ftfy

spugsley

don't worry, I'll be in and out of here complaining and saying fuck words

Ktash

@spugsley I feel like you need to do another let's play :p

David M

@spugsley What are fuck words? Orgasm? Labia? What are we talking here?

spugsley

4:29 AM

@Ktash I think it would work really well for this game hahahaha Ian can attest that I've been super loud and angry with this one

Ktash

@spugsley Sounds like something people could enjoy. You should think about it :)

user15026

@spugsley I would watch the FUCK outta that

Ktash

@AshleyNunn @spugsley see? :D

FEichinger

@BillyMailman Who do you think you are to tell me what sites to visit? I go where I please, you gotta ban me if you want to stop me coming here and then I am gonna have a new account in a few days and you cannot even know its me because dynamic ip ftw. Valid opinions in a discussion get deleted here. That is not okay when you have a community moderated site. It cannot be that a few people decide for everyone else by just flagging stuff that is not supposed to be flagged. And the "moderators" just delete everything so it fits the argument of those few. — Assylum 7 mins ago

David M

@FEichinger - Wow it's getting heated over a simple, meaningless question post!

FEichinger

4:34 AM

We've gone from "this is off-topic" to "i'm gonna evade any bans you throw at me!"

Private Pansy

Meaningless questions are the best type of questions to get into a heated debate for

FEichinger

This is ... fascinating, to be quite frank.

MBraedley

@FEichinger ask and ye shall receive?

3ventic

@DavidM it's good to argue now so we can point to that meta later when we get a new argument about the same thing

Private Pansy

Mainly because they're meaningless

spugsley

4:35 AM

@Ktash :p I get all self conscious

David M

@3ventic I don't deny that. It's just being taken awfully personally by this guy.

3ventic

@DavidM true... as if he was part of it

Private Pansy

@MBraedley I'll ask @badp if that is a valid reason to suspend someone :p

David M

@3ventic All he did was answer the question (correctly) and he's acting like his mom asked it.

Ktash

@spugsley then we just have to convince @Ian to set it up without you knowing lol

3ventic

4:39 AM

@DavidM which is odd to say the least

David M

@3ventic Yeah. I wonder if it should have just been down voted into oblivion rather than a formal closure? Might make for a better overall policy.

As you boys pointed out, it sends the message

On the other hand, it would be perfect for my "GOOGLE IT!!!!" flag!

MBraedley

@DavidM we make a distinction between bad content and off-topic content

3ventic

Google it is a bad way to respond to any question

There's a good proof of that on SO, where the answer says to google it (along with a short actual answer) and the first result on google is the answer itself.

David M

@3ventic A question like this: Who is SKIDROW? Would deserve that, though

But, point taken.

3ventic

@DavidM I agree, but no matter how trivial, SE questions often get the top result on Google

I mean

David M

4:44 AM

@3ventic - Now you see why I'm not a moderator. LOL!

3ventic

it's already fifth:

David M

I must admit, I was tempted to respond with "It's an 80s/90s hair band."

3ventic

haha

David M

Just like I'm sad that the Mario cool question is on hold. I would love nothing more than to post an answer to that saying that Mario is way older than Luigi, and hence cooler!

And source it by a link to website about rainbows and unicorns.

user15026

@DavidM Like this?

David M

4:47 AM

HOLY SHIT!!! IF YOU SHOW THAT TO MY DAUGHTER I WILL KILL YOU!

LMAO

Ktash

@AshleyNunn HOMYGAWD MY EYES

user15026

I loved their shit so much as a kid

David M

@AshleyNunn She's at the age where that is how she wants to paint her room!

Ktash

But who designed their website? A 5 year old from 1992?

user15026

@DavidM <3

David M

4:48 AM

@Ktash A 5 year old from 2013 would love it, too!

Ktash

@DavidM And I maintain that they should not be designing websites. At least not ones for major brands

David M

I constantly have to check my clothing for rainbow stickers, etc.

@Ktash Clearly this is the work of deranged elves!

Ktash

I mean, I've had my fair share of terrible site designs, but I wasn't ever that bad

user15026

Also, so much of it is BROKEN

Ktash

@DavidM Most likely scenario

@AshleyNunn Yeah, what?! Shop doesn't work?!

David M

4:49 AM

@Ktash This might be a plot by the sinister SKIDROW!

user15026

@Ktash HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO GET MY KITTENS AND RAINBOWS FIX

David M

@AshleyNunn I was so disappointed that I couldn't buy a pencil holder in the color "Unicorn Barf"

user15026

@DavidM That reminds me of these

David M

lisafrank.com/club.html

You can join the club, still.

@AshleyNunn LOL!

user15026

@DavidM "Membership is currently unavailable, please check back soon!"

user15026

4:52 AM

sad forever

David M

@AshleyNunn It reminds me of the golden turd sub-plot of American Dad

video.adultswim.com/american-dad/a-solid-gold-turd.html

Ktash

They're looking for designers and artists

I really hope that includes a web designer

David M

@Ktash One would hope!

Ktash

> Lisa Frank artists have a great eye for color

Hahahahaha

haha

ha

that's good

David M

@Ktash I'm either color-blind now, or it cured my color-blindness, or something now that I saw that site!

user20683

4:56 AM

Site hasn't been updated since 2011

David M

@FrostEngineer Yeah, because that design was totally En Vogue in 2011!

user15026

PEOPLE HAVE GOTTEN TATTOOS OF THE DESIGNS

Ktash

Not only that, but it looks like it was made with Frontpage circa 2003

invalid HTML that using nothing but tables and images

it is lovely

David M

@AshleyNunn Someone once got a tattoo of a grilled cheese sandwich with the virgin mary on it . . .

user15026

@Ktash but hey, that is HTML I know how to do

user15026

4:58 AM

I HAVE FOUND MY BACKUP CAREER

Ktash

Lisa Frank Website designer

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