The Bridge

I'll admit, Ocarina of Time was kinda boxed in with its story since Nintendo tied their hands by putting the basic plot in the A Link to the Past opening.

Scootaloo

2:12 PM

@Sconibulus You can't handle the truth :p.

Powerlord

However, Ocarina of Time is also not the only Zelda game.

fbueckert

chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/9947/rome-total-war-help-guides

facedesk

GnomeSlice

@fbueckert ...Why does this bother you?

If he wants to make a room, let him.

Powerlord

Hell, I think the portable Zelda games have more story to them than the 3D ones do.

fbueckert

@GnomeSlice Because it's stupid. There's nothing there, and I'll come down on any comments or answers like a ton of bricks that promote it.

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Wipqozn

2:14 PM

@GnomeSlice Single player smash bros is so bad.

GnomeSlice

@fbueckert That doesn't really sound necessary but okay...

@Wipqozn The arcade mode is pretty decent.

fbueckert

Did that actually get flagged?

GnomeSlice

The story mode or whatever in Super Smash Bros Brawl was horrible though.

Scootaloo

@Wipqozn Don't know why they bother including it.

Powerlord

Crap, I missed what they said the release date was for Professor Layton

Scootaloo

2:15 PM

Just like with most FPS games. Why bother giving them a campaign? just sell it as a multiplayer game.

GnomeSlice

Megabyte Punch did the single player mode a lot better than Super Smash Bros did.

The problem with Smash Bros is that the characters are too slow for real platforming.

Powerlord

Layton vs. Wright is coming to North America in 2014. \o/

GnomeSlice

They're all hard to maneuver.

Sconibulus

@Scootaloo Single player is awesome

GnomeSlice

►

Scootaloo

2:16 PM

@Sconibulus If they're going to make a garbage single player experience then they shouldn't bother at all.

Powerlord

(and Europe presumably, but I'm not watching the Europe stream)

Sconibulus

A multiplayer only game is useless if you don't have, you know, multiple players

fredley

So how does this actually work?

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A: Formatting Sandbox

𝕿𝖊𝖘𝖙𝖎𝖓𝖌 𝕾𝖙𝖆𝖈𝖐 𝕰𝖝𝖈𝖍𝖆𝖓𝖌𝖊 𝕱𝖔𝖓𝖙𝖆𝖑𝖎𝖈𝖎𝖔𝖚𝖘𝖓𝖊𝖘𝖘 ⁠ Double-Struck: 𝕋𝕖𝕤𝕥𝕚𝕟𝕘 𝕊𝕥𝕒𝕔𝕜 𝔼𝕩𝕔𝕙𝕒𝕟𝕘𝕖 𝔽𝕠𝕟𝕥𝕒𝕝𝕚𝕔𝕚𝕠𝕦𝕤𝕟𝕖𝕤𝕤 ⁠ Monospace: 𝚃𝚎𝚜𝚝𝚒𝚗𝚐 𝚂𝚝𝚊𝚌𝚔 𝙴𝚡𝚌𝚑𝚊𝚗𝚐𝚎 𝙵𝚘𝚗𝚝𝚊𝚕𝚒𝚌𝚒𝚘𝚞𝚜𝚗𝚎𝚜𝚜 ⁠ ...

OrigamiRobot

@fbueckert Promote what?

fredley

I can't figure it out

StrixVaria

2:16 PM

@GnomeSlice I really don't like these graphics.

To be honest.

The gameplay was decent, but it's so hard to tell what's going on sometimes.

GnomeSlice

@StrixVaria What's wrong with them?

fbueckert

@OrigamiRobot Take a look at the room owner.

GnomeSlice

@fbueckert Why does it matter who the room owner is

fbueckert

I fully expect him to go, "Join me here to help you with any other Rome questions you might have"

Sconibulus

@Scootaloo Well, yeah, if it's complete garbage, but it rarely is.

GnomeSlice

2:17 PM

@StrixVaria The final update launched yesterday and the final boss is way too hard compared to the rest of the game. =[

Sconibulus

A lot of time the story is lacking, but that doesn't mean the gameplay is

RhysW

any site mods in here?

GnomeSlice

@badp ping

OrigamiRobot

@fbueckert I don't get it.

SaintWacko

Want

fbueckert

2:18 PM

@RhysW Arqade mods? One or two are kicking around.

Scootaloo

gn everyone

Powerlord

No surprise that there are two worlds in the 3DS zelda.

RhysW

made a room here by mistake, is there a way to delete it?

fbueckert

1 min ago, by fbueckert

I fully expect him to go, "Join me here to help you with any other Rome questions you might have"

Sterno

@fbueckert This seems just like the Monster Hunter room, except for the complete lack of anyone in it.

3

:)

GnomeSlice

2:19 PM

@RhysW Just leave it for a while, if nobody uses it it will get auto deleted after some time.

OrigamiRobot

Don't star this.

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Powerlord

Hmm, Link Between Worlds takes place much much later than A Link to the Past.

RhysW

@GnomeSlice ok, i galleried it and removed myself from it so no one but mods can talk there anyway, thankyou

GnomeSlice

@RhysW Sure thing. =]

SaintWacko

Wind Waker HD... drool

GnomeSlice

2:20 PM

@SaintWacko Honestly I don't think it looked bad before

fbueckert

@OrigamiRobot There's a difference between derailing the Bridge with lots of talk about a certain game, and deliberately siphoning off questions from Arqade into chat.

SaintWacko

@GnomeSlice No, it didn't

Mad Scientist

@RhysW just link the room here and I'll nuke it

SaintWacko

With the art style, resolution isn't as important, anyways

OrigamiRobot

Red Starburst is better than pink.

fbueckert

2:21 PM

@OrigamiRobot 'tis. And I won't do anything about it if it doesn't actually happen.

I'm just predicting that's what's going to happen.

GnomeSlice

7 mins ago, by fbueckert

@GnomeSlice Because it's stupid. There's nothing there, and I'll come down on any comments or answers like a ton of bricks that promote it.

Powerlord

Hmm, it sounds like they redid the Triumph Forks part of Wind Waker

fbueckert

@GnomeSlice Hasn't happened yet, has it?

GnomeSlice

You basically said that anyone who mentions the chat room is going to get shit on by you in comments.

Sterno

Deep breaths.

Wipqozn

2:22 PM

@GnomeSlice If he's an ass, then flag said comments.

GnomeSlice

I guess, but that sounds stupid

Not really my concern I guess.

Wipqozn

@GnomeSlice Flagging inappropriate comments?

GnomeSlice

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Powerlord

So, anyway, since no one watching the Nintendo Direct mentioned it yet... there was a second triforce (all 3 parts, not a single one) mentioned in the Link Between Worlds part of Nintendo Direct. No clue if that's real or a red herring.

GnomeSlice

@Powerlord Nintendo probably forgot about it.

Everyone knows how good they are at continuity.

Powerlord

2:24 PM

@GnomeSlice No, they mentioned it... just no one in here did.

Wipqozn

I agree that @fbueckert is just being a grumpy goose over that room, but I understand what he's trying to say. There really wasn't a need for the room, so it seems silly. If the user plans to try and push people to start asking questions in the chat instead of the main site then that's a problem. Until that starts happening though just leave it be.

OrigamiRobot

@Powerlord The Fritorce? The Forcetri?

fbueckert

If people show up organically and want to talk about it, I have no issues with it. My problem will happen if and/or when he specifically links to it from Arqade proper. And from the room description, that sounds exactly what he's planning on doing.

Powerlord

@OrigamiRobot It's a shadow/mirror image of the Triforce and Iwata even called attention to it.

fbueckert

@Wipqozn Grumpy goose? Shouldn't I be a murderous moose or something?

Powerlord

2:26 PM

(Hell, it's part of the logo for Link Between Worlds)

Wipqozn

@fbueckert Nah man. Canadian Geese are fantastic and majestic animals.

OrigamiRobot

@Powerlord I know what you're referring to, I just wanted to make up stupid names.

Wipqozn

Actually, geese are huge jerks.

GnomeSlice

@Powerlord Oh I misread this as Link to the Past

hah

fbueckert

@Wipqozn And mean and altogether scary.

Wipqozn

2:26 PM

Seriously. what's up with Geese? They're fucking jerks.

OrigamiRobot

A Canadian Goose pooped on my car. Just jumped up there and pooped on it.

Powerlord

@GnomeSlice Well, Link Between Worlds is set in the same version of Hyrule, just later on... just how much later hasn't been said, but it's implied to be hundreds of years.

GnomeSlice

I have only played Ocarina of Time and The Wind Waker

So bluhbluhbluhbluhbluh

Powerlord

@GnomeSlice That's a shame... A Link to the Past is what I consider to be the best game in the series.

GnomeSlice

@OrigamiRobot Geese can sense weakness.

fbueckert

2:27 PM

@OrigamiRobot And it would've tried to tear your face off if you tried to shoo it off, too.

Powerlord

You should emula.... I mean buy on the Nintendo eShop, yup, I definitely wasn't suggesting illegal things.

GnomeSlice

@fbueckert I think you're thinking of Swans

fbueckert

@GnomeSlice Nnnnope.

Geese.

OrigamiRobot

@fbueckert I ain't afraid of no goose.

fbueckert

Big enough to do damage, not enough brains to realize it's actions will end up with it dead.

GnomeSlice

2:28 PM

Sci Fi Games Bundle

OrigamiRobot

I don't condone animal abuse, but I'll kick a goose right in its stupid goose neck.

Powerlord

I wonder if I should hop over to the Phoenix Wright part of CapCom Unity and see how insane it's going now that Layton vs. Ace Attorney has been announced for an English release.

Wipqozn

@Powerlord That is the correct opinion.

GnomeSlice

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StrixVaria

Uh.

Why can't I do a quarter circle motion EVERY TIME in Skullgirls?

I've failed like 100x and only succeeded once.

This is stupid.

Jumping is also a pain in the ass and doesn't work consistently.

GnomeSlice

2:30 PM

@StrixVaria I found that kind of unresponsive too.

@StrixVaria Jumping is just terrible.

OrigamiRobot

@GnomeSlice Swans will fuck you up.

StrixVaria

Now that I switched to the D-pad it works.

GnomeSlice

@OrigamiRobot Swans are really aggressive.

StrixVaria

It was just terrible with the joystick.

I guess I'll have to deal with the d-pad for this game.

OrigamiRobot

@GnomeSlice They also think jetskis are rival swans.

GnomeSlice

2:31 PM

@OrigamiRobot How do you know this. Did you have a bad encounter with a Swan on vacation

OrigamiRobot

@GnomeSlice Yes.

StrixVaria

Ok, wow, the controls in this game are STUPID.

It's almost unplayable with a pad.

I regret buying it.

GnomeSlice

@StrixVaria Yeah I wasn't that impressed actually.

StrixVaria

@BenBrocka The controls in Skullgirls are stupid.

LP+MK? Really?

Those buttons aren't adjacent.

I have to contort my hand to assist?

Also it doesn't recognize the triggers at all.

GnomeSlice

@StrixVaria Just hit the left trigger.

That usually makes somebody assist

I have no idea how the swapping and assisting really work

StrixVaria

2:33 PM

You can't assign the triggers.

The default 360 controller does not have enough buttons to play this game.

GnomeSlice

lol

StrixVaria

It's unbelievably stupid.

GnomeSlice

@StrixVaria The triggers do stuff

Hell if I know what though

StrixVaria

@GnomeSlice I can't assign actions to them.

GnomeSlice

I probably won't be buying it.

@StrixVaria Reset the controls to default and try them

I think one of them is heavy kick

RT I think

StrixVaria

2:35 PM

@GnomeSlice Won't let me reset.

GnomeSlice

@StrixVaria wat

Ben Brocka

@StrixVaria There's a macro you can set for 2 triggers

StrixVaria

@BenBrocka I cannot assign anything to the triggers.

GnomeSlice

@StrixVaria Why can't you reset it to defaults?

StrixVaria

Pressing the triggers does nothing.

Ben Brocka

2:36 PM

And you can just use your thumb vertically/horizontally to hit lp/mp or lk/mp

StrixVaria

@GnomeSlice Because pressing that button does nothing.

@BenBrocka Uh.

GnomeSlice

@StrixVaria Try using the keyboard maybe your menu inputs are fucked

Ben Brocka

Do you actually have a character set to assist?

StrixVaria

@BenBrocka I have no idea what I'm doing right now, so let's take a step back.

Ben Brocka

You can totally reconfigure the controls too

StrixVaria

2:36 PM

I tried to customize my controls.

I cannot figure out this game.

GnomeSlice

@StrixVaria I had that problem too. I managed to flail my way through the arcade mode and I feel like I've had enough

StrixVaria

Now I can't pause.

What the fuck.

Ben Brocka

Are you playing online?

StrixVaria

@BenBrocka I'm in a tutorial.

I wouldn't try playing online still not even able to figure out wtf the controls are.

GnomeSlice

@StrixVaria I got wrecked when I tried online play

Ben Brocka

2:39 PM

The tutorial might be limiting your controls or something, I don't know. Look at training mode while you set up controls

StrixVaria

Ok, I'm in the controls menu.

GnomeSlice

@StrixVaria reset to defaults

StrixVaria

@GnomeSlice It has no effect.

I've told you this.

GnomeSlice

Oh, right

that's messed up

Ben Brocka

And if you're in a tutorial the assist button does nothing because you don't have an assist character

StrixVaria

2:40 PM

Somehow "start" got bound to an attack.

Ben Brocka

...how did you manage to do this exactly? I was playing with 360 layout lastnight, the defaults are fine

StrixVaria

So I have to set up the controls before I go into training.

GnomeSlice

@StrixVaria Play Megabyte Punch

StrixVaria

Ok, so now let me spend some time in training mode and figure out what's going on.

Start is still bound to an attack.

I can't pause to change the controls.

This game is fucking awful.

When I press "Restore Defaults" nothing happens.

Ben Brocka

Does your 360 controller work right in other games? That's absolutely not what it normally does

StrixVaria

2:43 PM

@BenBrocka Yes, it's fine.

Help me pick my controls.

Ben Brocka

Just go to "configure all" and set all the buttons manually

StrixVaria

@BenBrocka That's what I've been doing.

Ben Brocka

get out into the main menu and go to help/options

What, it's not saving your selections?

StrixVaria

@BenBrocka I get to "Press the key or button to use for Macro 1. Press Start to Skip."

Then I'm out of keys on the controller that work.

So I press Start.

I have to assume it's actually making Start work as Macro 1 instead.

Ben Brocka

...How are you out of controls?

StrixVaria

2:44 PM

I can't assign macros to the triggers.

Fluttershy

@StrixVaria Your controller was struggling with another game too, wasn't it?

Ben Brocka

There's 6 buttons, two macros

Triggers should work fine, they work in my game

StrixVaria

Triggers don't work for me. They work fine in other games.

Bumpers work.

I had to assign bumpers to HP/HK, though.

Ben Brocka

I'd have to actually get in the interface to be sure what the issue is

StrixVaria

So pretty much the game is unplayable.

Wonderful.

Ben Brocka

2:45 PM

HP/HK should be on right trigger/bumper and assist on left trigger/bumper by default

StrixVaria

@BenBrocka I can't reset to defaults.

Pressing "A" on that option does nothing.

I also can't see what I've selected.

The menu is too cryptic.

GnomeSlice

@StrixVaria try using your keyboard

StrixVaria

The only way to change controls is to go through the wizard.

badp

@BenBrocka SirTapTap and the Murder of the Faces?

StrixVaria

@GnomeSlice No. Fighting games on a keyboard are worthless.

GnomeSlice

2:46 PM

@StrixVaria I mean try pressing 'enter' on your keyboard on the reset to defaults option

I had to do that when mine got messed up.

OrigamiRobot

@StrixVaria should obviously just give up on SkullGirls and go back to playing MH3U with us.

Lazers

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Q: PS3 won't download patch

Recently I've encountered a problem. Well, it wasn't a problem at the beginning, but now my PS3 can't even start downloading a patch. What happened step-by-step: I booted my PS3 Started the game(Injustice: Gods Among Us) PS3 asked if I want to download and install the update I chose "YES" and ...

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GnomeSlice

@StrixVaria Alternatively, play Megabyte Punch

StrixVaria

@GnomeSlice Stop suggesting that. I'm specifically not going to play that game now.

GnomeSlice

I suggested it twice, and you said the gameplay was good

Sorry...

I was joking anyway

StrixVaria

2:48 PM

Enter doesn't do anything on the keyboard.

GnomeSlice

I means you should play it but I was spamming it for jokes.

StrixVaria

S does, though.

GnomeSlice

@StrixVaria wh...wat

StrixVaria

This game is completely fucked.

GnomeSlice

uninstall / reinstall

StrixVaria

2:48 PM

Can I just get all customized data deleted or something?

Ben Brocka

There's probably a config file to delete somewhere...I'll just look at the menu tonight and see what you need to do to get it all reset

StrixVaria

I think I found it.

This time I will attempt to learn the default controls.

Start is still bound to an attack.

Oh, I can pause with the right stick, though!

Ben Brocka

It must not be sending the right inputs somehow

5pike

The hell?

OrigamiRobot

Either you controller or your game is so screwed up.

StrixVaria

2:52 PM

@OrigamiRobot The controller works fine in all other games.

OrigamiRobot

Or maybe even your USB port

Ben Brocka

Does it look okay in Control panel? You can check inputs there

StrixVaria

@BenBrocka Looking at that now.

Looks fine.

The triggers are treated as an analog axis, which probably is why I can't map anything to them in the game.

Ben Brocka

@StrixVaria I'm not sure that's right

I don't think it did that when I checked my controller

but again it's hard to tell without having my computer/game in my hands

Powerlord

@BenBrocka I dunno about your controller, but Xbox 360 controllers always do that when connected to a PC.

GnomeSlice

2:56 PM

@Powerlord Yeah, that.

Ben Brocka

I set it to function as a 360 controller. Could be mistaken though

StrixVaria

Even after supposedly deleting all the saved data for the game, and not even using a controller, 'S' is what I have to press to select menu options.

Enter does nothing.

Ben Brocka

I have zero idea what the keyboard layout is

GnomeSlice

@StrixVaria Does it work on the reset default thing?

StrixVaria

@GnomeSlice No.

GnomeSlice

2:57 PM

Maybe you should just give up

@StrixVaria Try this instead of the built in input tester, it's a little more accurate I think. ge.tt/8kEliFo/v/0?c

I can't find the original place I got it from so I hosted it for you. It's tiny.

I can't imagine it's your gamepad though.

Ben Brocka

If you wait I'll poke around. Something's not being read right or something

GnomeSlice

You could try uninstalling the game and reinstalling it?

5pike

Unlikely, if it works in other games.

Ben Brocka

Did it give you an option to pick keyboard/controller at the start of the game? It did that for me last night (showed up with Controller 1 and 2 keyboards)

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