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Private Pansy

1:00 PM

@BenBrocka I wonder if they'd sell it here before selling it in the US

Grace Note

@fredley Oh, I've had some things to say about the game but they're weeks old.

Private Pansy

That'd be a first. You guys can feel my pain. Mu wa hahahahahaha

fredley

@kalina Kalina time is worse than valve time

@GraceNote I haven't developed in that time

Please say!

Ben Brocka

@PrivatePansy Sounds like they're planning to see how it pans out it markets without a dominant roku/apple TV sort of thing. Does Singapore have one (and do you have streaming services that would make it worth it)?

I'm honestly surprised they're focusing on it as a streaming box, I 100% want one just because it's a cheap vita for your TV with a real controller and it streams PS4

Grace Note

Candy rates for the actual Candy game are pathetic and miniscule. It's still far too profitable to do Asteroid for candy, and in fact the new giant asteroids arguably make it easier to farm.

Private Pansy

1:02 PM

@BenBrocka Singaporeans haven't really warmed up to the idea of recording TV to watch later

Grace Note

This seems to be because it's a multiplicative rate for getting the pickup in Asteroid, but you can only get as far as I can see about 9 pieces of candy from a run of the Candy game

Ben Brocka

@PrivatePansy Well it's streaming, not DVR

fredley

@GraceNote Why do they make farming easier?

Private Pansy

The major cable providers here do provide the option for a set top box with that feature, but it's expensive

@BenBrocka Oh, no. There is only one streaming service to be had right now, and to be honest the selection of shows on it is terrible

fredley

@GraceNote Hmmm. I'll think of a way around that. Thanks for the feedback.

Grace Note

1:03 PM

@fredley The greatest hazards to farming are hitting A and B too much - you want a perfect amount of each and not too high. Giant asteroids give you a thing to shoot indefinitely without risking hitting an A or B spawning in your bullet wave.

fredley

@GraceNote Interesting.

Grace Note

Limiting lives to 5 is very functional, though. It's low enough that you can't just tank things (this is why too much A is bad) while it's high enough to be reasonable for normal actions.

fredley

@GraceNote Cool

Balancing is hard

Ben Brocka

@PrivatePansy Oh, you probably won't get it early then. Annoyingly enough it seems they're marketing it as a streaming box that happens to play PS Vita/PSP/PSX games

OrigamiRobot

@fredley Add more gyroscopes.

Private Pansy

1:06 PM

@BenBrocka Awww

Grace Note

On a similar note, Dust becomes worthless way too fast. You only ever need Ingots to make Coin-related things, and after a point, you get so many natural Coinifyers and multipliers (and the new time-moves-faster boost is really cool by the way) that you get coins way faster than you can spend them.

Kevin van der Velden

@OrigamiRobot Don't!

We didn't actually land on the moon -- it just looked like we did because of precession. Also, gyroscopes caused 9/11.

Ben Brocka

@PrivatePansy You'll probably have to import like I will if the price is right and I can find a site I understand

Private Pansy

Not that I want it or anything, I just want to stand next to it, take a picture and shout "AHA, IN YOUR FACE" after posting it here

fredley

@GraceNote I see. Maybe I'll make armour recipes use more ingots/blocks

Ben Brocka

1:07 PM

I assume Amazon Prime doesn't give me free shipping from Japan...

OrigamiRobot

@KevinvanderVelden You can just link straight to the xkcd page and it will onebox.

Kevin van der Velden

@OrigamiRobot I did not know that :o

Grace Note

This was especially the case when I had about 12 digits of Coins while still trying to make enough Gobstoppers to make a single potion.

OrigamiRobot

Then you get the alt text too

Kevin van der Velden

@OrigamiRobot Ninja edited it already :)

OrigamiRobot

1:08 PM

What? It didn't edit it on my screen.

Grace Note

The potion recipes were cool to discover. Anyone worth their salt in comprehension can figure out what you're saying so it's not too confusion but it's not so direct so it's at a nice place if you ask me.

fredley

@GraceNote Considering adding a marketplace with exponential pricing

@GraceNote Thanks

Grace Note

That said I can't tell at all what a Strength Potion or Strength Potion 2 actually does.

OrigamiRobot

@fredley Needs more microtransactions

fredley

@OrigamiRobot Shut up, your feedback is worse than useless

@GraceNote Increases attack strength in CC and DD

Ben Brocka

1:09 PM

Also jiggle physics and second screen features for that AAA touch

Grace Note

Do the effects of multiple potions of the same type stack?

OrigamiRobot

@fredley Add waggle controls

Release a Virtual Boy port

Kevin van der Velden

@OrigamiRobot try refreshing?

fredley

@OrigamiRobot I'll waggle your controls ;-)

@GraceNote No, and the cooldown for potions should prevent more than one effect being active

Grace Note

Mmkay.

(There goes my strategy for taking down the lollipop farmer)

OrigamiRobot

1:11 PM

@KevinvanderVelden I already did, it's just weird that I had to do that at all.

Kevin van der Velden

@OrigamiRobot maybe because you typed at the same time I edited it?

Private Pansy

-6

Q: Why should i choose faith?

Faith provides many bonuses. It can basically help any type of victory (except domination). If it can help almost every civilisation on its victory, why did they had such a mechanic ? If I want cultural victory, I'll get culture building and build defences for protection. If I seek scientific, I...

fredley

@GraceNote Testing on DD is much appreciated, as I'm guessing it will need a lot of balancing

OrigamiRobot

@fredley What does this mean?

fredley

So far I hear the dragon is too hard

Private Pansy

1:13 PM

I don't get it. Doesn't the OP answer his own question in the first line?

Grace Note

I haven't even made it to the dragon

Private Pansy

> Why should i choose faith? Faith provides many bonuses. It can basically help any type of victory (except domination).

fredley

@OrigamiRobot LET YOUR IMAGINATION RUN WILD WINKING EMOTICON

@GraceNote I think you can just spam projectiles at the lollipop farmer

Also I need to update some of the bosses to reference cookies

OrigamiRobot

Mar 11 '12 at 15:53, by OrigamiRobot

@Wipqozn Don't worry. Robots can't get to Canada. We don't have imaginations so we can't visit imaginary places.

fredley

Or maybe I'll replace ingots with cookies

FEichinger

1:14 PM

11 hours ago, by FEichinger

@Lazers Why, yes, because every mechanic has to directly affect a victory.

Grace Note

He does have a pretty killer melee but at his growth rate I wasn't sure that I could kill him fast enough with shots but I haven't tried much.

fredley

@GraceNote Yeah, I might dial back the rate of growth

Private Pansy

Captain America in a turban

Grace Note

Fire Potion 2 certainly wasn't of any help against him, haha.

...oops sent that guy to hell.

Sterno

@kalina All the caffeine I drank this morning just kicked in so now I'm PAYDAY 2'ing instead

For some reason this game needs to run "first time setup" every time I run it

5pike

1:18 PM

@Sterno You have that too?

FEichinger

@Sterno If I recall correctly that happens when certain setup files don't delete themselves after running.

Also causes things like the vcredist being "installed" over and over again.

OrigamiRobot

@5pike We all do.

fbueckert

Good morning, Bridge

FEichinger

Good afternoon, @fbueckert.

fredley

@GraceNote ?

OrigamiRobot

1:21 PM

@fbueckert Never.

fbueckert

@OrigamiRobot Always

Grace Note

yesterday, by Grace Note

I'm riding a drug-using motorcycle, stabbing people with a halberd that sends its victims to hell, and am accompanied by a legendary fallen angel that fires exploding arrows, a machinegun-toting slime tank, an animated suit of killer armor, and a little girl. All for the sake of earning a living by playing the piano.

OrigamiRobot

Not even once.

FEichinger

@GraceNote ... Wait what. o.o

Grace Note

Ran over a guy who I didn't see before when turning a corner.

FEichinger

1:21 PM

Crazy. Person.

Ben Brocka

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fbueckert

@GraceNote That sounds like a typical Japanese day.

Grace Note

@fbueckert Pretty much.

5pike

@OrigamiRobot Very strange. Wonder what causes that.

fredley

Grace Note

1:27 PM

I should've mentioned that the slime tank is wielding a living god-killing machinegun. That's kind of her whole schtick on my team, too.

Kevin van der Velden

@GraceNote what the hell crazy games are you playing?

Grace Note

@KevinvanderVelden Elona is the name. It's a roguelike.

fbueckert

@KevinvanderVelden And why is she not sharing?

5pike

Elona (video game)

Elona is a roguelike game created by Japanese developer Noa. Its name is short for "Eternal League of Nefia". Noa began developing Elona in 2006, and based it on roguelikes such as Ancient Domains of Mystery (ADOM) and Angband. Noa had previously made two other role-playing games, Shade and Etherwind. A reviewer at Insert Credit praised Elona as "very well-made" and compared its character development system to that of ADOM. The game is set in a fantasy world called Irva. The player creates a character, with one each of eleven races and ten classes, to battle monsters, practice magic,...

Grace Note

Yeesh that page is out of date.

fbueckert

1:29 PM

Based on ADOM

Sterno

We were totally overrun and the dummies went back for more bags.

fbueckert

I like it already

Grace Note

It's very based on ADOM, but much friendlier and also scarier at the same time.

5pike

@GraceNote Make it up to date?

Grace Note

@5pike Way too much data for me to add and be comfortable with it.

Kevin van der Velden

1:30 PM

I'm starring it so I can find it when I get home

This seems to insane not to play

fbueckert

I may check it out once I clear up some gaming time.

Grace Note

You'll want to check out the Elona Wiki for real info, and most relevantly check out Elona Plus.

The English "translation" is sane for the first portion of the game up until the game's first final boss, which is a great deal of play time. After that part you'll basically need to rely on the wiki to deal with the parts after that as it's not translated yet.

Ben Brocka

A couple amazing Call designs! http://shadow2810.deviantart.com/art/Call-Battle-Mode-Mockup-Design-Pink-hair-v-399654891?q=gallery%3AShadow2810&qo=0 & http://shadow2810.deviantart.com/art/Call-Battle-Mode-Mock-up-Design-399456918?q=gallery%3AShadow2810&qo=1 by http://shadow2810.deviantart.com/

Tweeted by MightyNo9 on September 12, 2013 at 1:13 PM

Kevin van der Velden

@GraceNote bla, I can't read japanese :(

Ben Brocka

I want Call to use a sword, so bad

fbueckert

1:33 PM

@BenBrocka Female Zero.

Grace Note

@KevinvanderVelden The site link on the right (that mentioned version 1.27) links to the page with the download, just pick up the Dropbox link from there.

Ben Brocka

@fbueckert Sounds perfect to me

fbueckert

@BenBrocka Yeah. I wouldn't mind a new "Megaman, but not" game.

Especially from the X series.

Kevin van der Velden

@GraceNote jeah finding the download isn't a problem, but part of the content is japanese I think?

Grace Note

Elona Plus fixes a lot of meh parts of the original Elona (which development was abandoned a couple years ago) and also adds two new areas after the first final boss. Again, the English for the first part is sane enough to play, especially the parts where it's actually necessary to know what is being said.

Kevin van der Velden

1:35 PM

Ok cool :)

Ben Brocka

@fbueckert They're working with Inticreates; they made Mega Man Zero and ZX, both had very good swordplay

And unlike X4, there aren't random bosses that are extremely annoying to fight with a sword (cough General cough)

fbueckert

I loved the fact that X2 allowed you to recover Zero's parts if you wanted, but didn't jam it in your face that it was an option.

Grace Note

@BenBrocka I didn't remember General being that bothersome to Zero but it's been a while I s'pose.

Definitely not as polished in the swordplay department as the later two series though, by far.

Ben Brocka

@GraceNote The fight took 10 minutes last night because he kept using the punch attacks

Grace Note

Aren't punch attacks how you're supposed to get to his face?

Ben Brocka

1:40 PM

It's all RNG as to which attacks he uses and that one has no safe approach, so I wait for him to come up to the walls

@GraceNote If you're X, yes

I don't think there's a reasonable way to hit him as Zero that way

I think X can also just hug the wall and shoot at him though

Grace Note

Huh, I thought it still was a critical component as you just jump off, smack him in the face, and then double jump away.

fbueckert

You can hit people in their facts?

How does that work?

Grace Note

It has been a while since I wondered "WHAT AM I FIGHTING FOOOOOOOR!?", though

5pike

@GraceNote hehe

Ben Brocka

@GraceNote You can hit him about 3 times while hugging the wall each time he does the non-punching attacks, it's much more effective IF he actually does the attacks

Grace Note

1:43 PM

@BenBrocka Probably is more effective when he's there but the punch attacks I think still were an opening to hit. Better to hit every opening than just the biggest.

Did I mention I have like 90% of an answer to your question about Sigma?

badp

@GraceNote so would you like me to try and get a steam family sharing private beta for you or..?

I'm kind of late by now but you might still be getting a week or so of advantage on waiting the full release

Ben Brocka

@GraceNote You have 90% of an answer for how to dodge one attack that I 50% know how to doge?

Grace Note

@badp I don't mind waiting for the full release, got so many games to play as is that I'm in no rush for Steam.

@BenBrocka Yes. But the 10% is things that are critical to what I'd suggest so without that I can't give an answer.

badp

@GraceNote okay. I don't have much use for the feature myself.

Ben Brocka

@GraceNote All I really need to know is how to get to the wall

I tried just hugging the wall before the attack starts, but that limits my effectiveness if he does the blowing wind attack instead

Much of Mega Man X is about expressing your affection for walls

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Grace Note

1:47 PM

@BenBrocka This was Plan B that I was going to suggest depending on the validity of Plan A, which is depending on whether or not he has a damage hitbox before he starts either attack.

Since you still need a means to actually hurt that form since it's got its own lifebar, though, it's not a good idea if you're not able to reach him from there to make an actual offense.

Ben Brocka

@GraceNote Pretty sure he doesn't

I've tried standing hear him when he starts, but I don't really get any free attacks, and once the attack starts I'm guaranteed to take at least 2-3 hits of damage or more

Blem

Richard Garfield is having a free lecture 15 min from my work on luck vs. skill in games and of course it is tomorrow when I don't have time to attend :(

Grace Note

@BenBrocka It's very likely you'll actually get grabbed, too, which is terrible and doesn't help you at all.

Kevin van der Velden

@Blem =[

fbueckert

Criminy, we're getting a lot of spam suggested edits lately.

Kevin van der Velden

1:51 PM

@Blem Check to see if it's getting recorded?

Grace Note

@fbueckert Could you grab a handful of like 10 or so and just fork the list over to me at some point?

Ben Brocka

@GraceNote Yeah, that was the annoying thing

I need to learn to dash cancel better, that's how people seem to do the most damage to the head

fbueckert

@GraceNote Sure, I can do that. I wrote a query to peel rejected edits, but that only goes to the beginning of September.

Grace Note

I can't remember if Shippuuga does more damage or not.

Blem

@KevinvanderVelden it is at IT University of Copenhagen, so it should be recorded, if they don't have the technology to do it I don't know who does, I would just have liked to meet Richard Garfield

Grace Note

1:54 PM

"Pigeon Rapier" makes for a very amusing artifact name.

Ben Brocka

@GraceNote It does damage for sure, but it's hard to use on him. I only use it to get a couple pot shots in when the wind is blowing

Is shippuuga even super effective against anyone? I almost never use it

Grace Note

@BenBrocka Not in X4 so much, no.

fbueckert

Heh. Trolling through queries for Arqade, first one on the list is Downvoters hall of shame

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Ben Brocka

Web Spider and General. Two of the enemies you're least likely to be able to hit it with

Grace Note

Wow, General, really?

Private Pansy

1:56 PM

@fbueckert The problem with that is that now downvotes on deleted posts also count

Grace Note

(I'm assuming you just poked an FAQ)

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