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3:00 PM
When HotS was announced I went "meh" because I remembered SC2 was "meh".
 
@Ender sure that's not to connect it to the PSU?
 
Uh huh
 
@GraceNote I would play it if there was a grant related to it. it's not high enough on my radar to warrant a purchase on day 1. I also don't really like the "diablo 3" contest rules.
 
6/8 pin connectors probably, if so
 
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3:00 PM
@Aarthi I could identify a few reasons that participation might be lower, part of it is sales, but I think there are other factors. (i.e. we have a huge tail of SC2 questions that are still relevant, a lot of SC II Q&A is based on a multiplayer metagame that develops over months, not days from release, etc. etc.)
 
well that didnt work
 
@agent86 Such reasons as, curiosity speaking?
 
drag and drop onto the upload dialog and it should work
 
@Ender are...are you joking?
 
@Ender click the upload button, then pick the file, and it will upload and onebox for you.
 
3:01 PM
i know
im not stupid
ok the one on the bottom goes to my motherboard
whats the one on the top go to?
 
@Ender yeah, that looks like an SLI type connector. for hooking two cards together
 
I'll be honest? That looks like a floor plan from just a side glance.
 
@Ender SLI?
 
Also I didn't know you wore glasses.
 
never heard of that
@grace lol
 
3:02 PM
Bonus celebration image!
 
I have contacts on in my avatar for this website
 
@Ender if you put two of the same card in your system, you can hook them together and make them process frames together in parallel. it's expensive, but hey, if you've got the cash...
 
@GraceNote I dunno, meeting the bar for the top prize and then only having a flat 25% chance of winning the associated prize is kind of... not hot.
 
NICE OPTION
 
@LessPop_MoreFizz Ahha
 
3:02 PM
@YiJiang'sEvilClone Wheres my YAY 10K!!!?
 
@agent thanks
 
If you've got the money, you can have 4x GTX Titans running together.
 
mind you, if this was a game I were interested in, I'd still participate
 
you can go to a hardware review site (like tomshardware.com) and see how the performance improves w/2 cards in parallel. it's not 2x, but it's better than 1.5x usually.
 
@badp Ohho, I see.
 
3:03 PM
But unless you're at a high end card already, it's more cost efficient to get a better card than a second same card
 
@GraceNote I kind of suck at RTS'es, but I'd still play and ask/answer questions on the site if I had the game. I don't like it enough to buy it day 1, esp. since I'm probably only going to enjoy the single player campaign and then put it up.
 
@GraceNote That's the vibe I've gotten at any rate
 
There's lots of loss/wonkiness with SLI/crossfired cards. Problems which don't exist in a single-card, dual GPU card
 
@GraceNote If you want we can go in to a private room and i will answer you asap
 
@agent86 I actually meant the contest rules concerns.
 
3:04 PM
@GraceNote you were nonspecific, so you're getting both. stand by.
 
@Blem Uh, private private or is it fine just a room for the two of us?
@agent86 Ah, okay, okay.
 
@YiJiang'sEvilClone you're the worst.
 
@GraceNote :( i really wanted some alone time with you, but it is ok
 
@Blem Okay, making it private private.
 
@GraceNote I had the stats wizards work out the odds for the D3 contest and I provided feedback to Lauren at the time. That info may have left the company with her departure. Essentially, the odds at the higher tiers aren't really worth the effort. It's better than nothing, but not something I'd gun for as hard unless I was really into the game (which I'm not, see #1)
 
3:06 PM
@badp @GraceNote Yeah, this is a definite kick in the enthusiasm too.
 
THE ABOVE IMAGES ARE DERIVATIVE WORKS ORIGINALLY CREATED BY @Aarthi LICENSED UNDER CREATIVE COMMONS 3.0 UNPORTED WIKI ATTRIBUTION SHARE-ALIKE LICENSE
 
I guess I would say as a motivator for above-average participation, it isn't the greatest.
 
So, the prize system is a large concern to a lot of people, I see.
 
Legal obligation fulfilled. I think.
 
@YiJiang'sEvilClone SEE WAS THAT SO HARD.
 
3:07 PM
I mean, I saw raven get to the top of D3 and walk away with nothing... and let me tell you, it takes a very large effort to hit the top tier on these contests.
 
@Aarthi badp likes hard things
3
 
.............
 
I know things had swung towards way too many TV's with ME3, but they swung a bit too far the other way with D3, and stayed there for SC2
 
@kalina *golf claps*
 
sorry, my mind is stuck in the wrong gear today
 
3:08 PM
my video card also came with two of these
i havent worked on a computer in like ten years
 
@Ender MOAR POWAH
 
do i need these?
 
@Ender higher power draw cards need more power from your PSU than can be provided from the PCIe slots.
 
fml
 
@Ender I did not expect the moustache.
 
3:09 PM
Tanker Stache
 
@agent86 but plush toys are the best
 
your PSU may have the black end connector, which you can use directly. If not, you can try with that type of connector, but not all cards support using that type of connector.
 
They took my tank away, i only have the stache now :(
 
@agent86 Has to be a standard for my cards, now.
 
@YiJiang'sEvilClone Let me free you from the shackles of @Aarthi's evil CC-WIKI reign of terror
 
3:09 PM
@Aarthi I think for example, that only one person currently even gets a plush toy, speaks an issue of possible sorts.
 
@Aarthi This is a true statement.
 
Especially seeing as how my last video card just up and died. Quietly.
 
you'll probably need to plug something into the little black power connectors on the card. what it is depends on the card and your PSU.
 
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@badp Uh oh...
 
3:10 PM
@badp this is amazing
 
@LessPop_MoreFizz See! Genius plan of mine! ♪
 
@Aarthi plush toys are awesome, that's for sure. I really hate to complain about contests, because I like them and I like free stuff. I just feel like I owe you guys honest feedback :(
 
@badp Oh hey, that's not half as bad as I expect
 
@badp Why does it say Mercy?
 
@GraceNote well it's a combination, right? the levels were clearly too hard for this challenge AND the game itself doesn't have as big of a footprint on this site anymore.
 
3:10 PM
@fredley I was wondering that
 
@YiJiang'sEvilClone That's because you don't see each and every pixel
 
@agent86 it's ok! I just happen to really like plushies, as everyone in the company knows by now.
 
@badp there is only one pixel on the bridge, she is known by a different name now though!
 
just wait until I place your face there though, @YiJiang'sEvilClone!!
 
@kalina It's... French?
 
3:11 PM
By the way, listen to Neverwhere, it's awesome
 
@YiJiang'sEvilClone that would be merci
 
@YiJiang'sEvilClone Thank you?
 
surely?
 
@badp I'll be honored
 
@YiJiang'sEvilClone Don't hold your breath. I don't want to be dragged in a tribunal
 
3:11 PM
@fredley ugh, must benedict cumber-whatever be in everything ?
 
oh, merry
 
@agent thanks
 
that would be joyeux then surely
 
@Aarthi Seems suchways.
 
@Aarthi It's ok, you don't have to look at his face
 
3:12 PM
I buy probably 4-5 games on day one per year, so a game's got to be pretty darn good for me to pick it up... gaming grants really helped there.
 
"Merci" is French for "Thanks"
 
@kalina hypercool
 
@kalina Oh yeah, it was a really long time since I did French
 
@Ender np. I just built a new rig in feb, so this is all fresh in my mind...
 
Tout c'est hypercool, oui?
My French is awesome
 
3:12 PM
how much shoudl i have to connect?
 
@fredley true, and james mcavoy makes up for benedict in spades
 
there is two of these cords, making 4 ends to connect to my PSU
thats a lot of connectors I dont have
 
@fredley non
 
so far I can only find one
 
@Aarthi I didn't even realise it was old Ben when I listened
@kalina Oui!
 
3:13 PM
@badp I didn't know badly done MS painting was a war crime
 
@Ender Most new video cards have a specific power connection on them, with the converters in the package.
Usually I find them on the back of the card.
 
Although... now that I think of it, some of your works surely could be regarded as crimes against humanity
 
@YiJiang'sEvilClone Hitler used MS Paint to illustrate Mein Kampf.
2
 
@LessPop_MoreFizz Microsoft didn't even exist then
 
@fredley ah fair enough. i really can't stand him? and don't understand the hordes of fangirl who think he's the sexiest thing since chocolate mousse....
 
3:14 PM
@LessPop_MoreFizz Churchill meanwhile used oil paints. And look how that one ended.
 
@Ender reading the video card's manual is probably helpful. I'd plug as many in as you can, tbh. it's also possible if your PSU doesn't have the "black" connectors that it might not be powerful enough to drive the card... how old is the PSU?
 
@Aarthi Me neither. But then my understanding of anything fangirly is quite limited
 
@fredley Fair enough. I'm even in those spaces and just don't get it. I mean, he was too convincingly the rapist in Atonement, just saying.
 
@Aarthi :-S
 
3:16 PM
@fredley yeah.
 
worrying. I've seen a couple of Sherlocks and that's it, so I've not had much BCB exposure.
 
He's just got a creepy stalker face
I don't like it.
 
@LessPop_MoreFizz Have to watch a video to read an article?
 
By contrast, things I do like: incineration.tumblr.com/post/40532626796/…
 
@Aarthi Apparently long faces come from early baby incubators
 
3:17 PM
@fredley ?
 
@Ender molex? Huh, haven't used molex on a card in years
 
@Aarthi Lying on sides not properly supported
 
I guess midrange cards probably can use molex though
 
@ben mole wha?
 
3:18 PM
@Aarthi Side question: @AnnaLear was mentioning that gaming grants might be coming back in some form or another after the SC2 event. Is there any more information about that, that can be shared?
 
@fredley oh. Yeah, I was just co-slept with until I was old enough to self-support.
 
@Ender The white ones are called molex
 
Molex connector is the vernacular term for a two-piece pin and socket interconnection, most frequently disk drive connectors. Pioneered by Molex Connector Company, the two-piece design became an early electronic standard. Molex developed and patented the first examples of this connector style in the late 1950s and early 1960s. First used in home appliances, other industries soon began designing it into their products from automobiles to vending machines to mini-computers. In such a connector, cylindrical spring-metal pins fit into cylindrical spring-metal sockets. The pins and sockets ...
connects to your PSU
 
@fbueckert Not really. Haven't looked at it yet.
 
and the thing you're powering
 
3:19 PM
 
@fbueckert I honestly don't know much beyond what you just said. Also, Anna herself replied :)
 
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@AnnaLear Okay. Good to know.
 
@fbueckert The only information I have right now is that it's still a thing we want to try running. :)
 
Stupid clipboard
 
3:19 PM
yea thats what I just used
 
Curiosity has been appeased.
 
@Aarthi I was late
 
For the moment.
 
@LessPop_MoreFizz There's a paragraph that starts with a quotation that does not end with a quotation! That implies that the speech that has begun with that paragraph is still continuing into the next paragraph, which means there's moooooooooore!
 
@GraceNote There is.
But I just took a screenshot to give you the gist. You can watch a thirty second commercial if you want the rest.
 
3:20 PM
Evilevile
 
yay gold badge
 
@kalina Which?
 
@fredley gold tag badge obviously
 
those are the best
 
@kalina Nope
 
3:24 PM
@fredley The boring one
 
@Aarthi I will get the first one. Nobody can stand in my way
@YiJiang'sEvilClone Fanatic?
 
@fredley nah, just a lowly "yay people look at your questions" badge
@fredley wtf fanatic
 
@kalina Oh. Famous Question. pfffff.
 
I didn't realise you thought that low of me
I think I now need to re-evaluate how much I like you
 
@Aarthi Do self-answers count towards tag badge?
@kalina This happens on a daily basis anyway
 
3:25 PM
@fredley hmmm unsure.
 
@fredley nothing that you post counts towards the badge
 
@kalina :-(
 
@fredley I am now going to start a campaign of voting to delete all out of date minecraft posts that you've taken part in
to cause damage to how close to the gold tag badge you are
 
@fredley Hm.............
 
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Q: Do self-answers count towards tag badges?

fredleyIf I ask and answer my own question, do the votes and answer count count towards a tag badge? E.g., if I get an upvote for an answer to my own question, does that count towards the 1000 required for a gold badge? Does the answer count towards the 200 required?

@kalina :-(
 
3:28 PM
@fredley downvotes
 
Note: if they do, I will spend quite some time adding valuable content to the site
@kalina lies
 
@fredley Oh, hey, I almost have the silver badge in [status-completed] on Meta.
 
@GraceNote Nice
@kalina So? Sites love valuable content!
 
...wait, that's actually the easiest way to test and confirm this without me just asking the devs.
At least, from my perspective. I'd otherwise have to hunt down people who self-answer.
 
3:32 PM
@fredley if it turns out to be the case, I will flood the site with questions and answers until they decide it is actually a bad idea
they do count
FLOOD AHOY
 
@kalina You know that you actually have to get upvotes on them for them to actually count
 
@kalina You are not getting this badge before me
 
@YiJiang'sEvilClone downvotes all of @kalina's self-answers
 
@kalina needs 800 upvotes. This is not happening.
 
I don't think she cares about getting it before you as much as she cares that you aren't the first, and more relevantly that Minecraft isn't the first.
 
3:36 PM
@GraceNote To put it succinctly, haters gonna hate.
 
@GraceNote the minecraft thing
100% that
 
@kalina Minecraft is best game
 
you know what
I'm going to find somebody that meets the answer requirement
and upvote all of their answers
 
@kalina Even Raven is a long way off. Nobody meets the answer req yet. I will be the first.
 
You do realize that no one does, right?
 
3:37 PM
sad days
 
very well, I am left with only one choice
time to start downvoting @fredley
 
@kalina ♪ Minecraft, Minecraft, Minecraft ♪
@kalina Doesn't affect the number of upvotes I have
 
there is no way the system is that simple
 
@fredley I'm not exactly sure what tune I should be singing that to
 
3:38 PM
surely it takes the value of your combined upvotes and downvotes
 
@YiJiang'sEvilClone An annoying taunt, directed at @kalina
@kalina Neeeope
 
you cannot taunt me
you're not @fbueckert
or @OrigamiRobot
 
@fredley It does affect your tag score.
 
@kalina Lol, @kalina has a list of allowed-taunters
@GraceNote Oh ok
 
@GraceNote I am glad to hear this
DOWNVOTES AHOY
 
3:39 PM
@kalina Only 300 downvotes required
 
@fredley I can afford to lose 300 rep
 
Remember to vote serially
 
@kalina Wait, what? I can taunt you?
 
nope, I won't vote serially
I will vote with a random delay
 
@kalina Super cereal
 
3:40 PM
and I will continue downvoting until you and I have the same rep
 
@kalina Delay has nothing to do with it. If at any point, you have 300 downvotes on Fredley and the next highest user you have downvoted has 5 downvotes, the 300 will get reversed.
 
@kalina That's a lot of downvotes.
 
@kalina Ditto. We're basically stuck now.
We'll end up both with 1 rep
 
@JasonBerkan very well, I will downvote you at the same time
 
You need to downvote multiple people.
 
3:41 PM
@Agent windows is not discovering my new device at all
 
With a random delay.
 
with a random delay
 
@fbueckert
 
would you agree that is an indicator that it's insufficiently powered?
 
@fbueckert but it is @fredley
 
3:42 PM
@Blem Just think back to the Windowlicker image before casting your downvotes
 
@fredley yes but, you won't get the first gold tag badge, and more importantly, the first gold tag badge won't be minecraft
it's worth the pain imo
 
@Ender that would be my #1 suspect, sadly.
how old is your power supply?
 
@fredley I don't downmuch much... but when i do it is usually @fredley ?
 
besides, it will only take me 10 months to regather 20k rep, whereas it will take you 2 years!
<evil laugh>
 
the entire labtop is dinosaur with some upgrades done by somebody other than myself
at least 4 years
 
3:43 PM
@kalina I'll give all my upvotes to @KevinY, just so that will win
 
J/K i dont like the downvote button unless it is a really crappy question/answer
 
@Ender yeah, chances are pretty good it needs a more beefy power supply :(
 
@kalina :-(
 
631 up votes and 41 down votes
 
Hey, people! I'm the downvoter here! Quit taking my shtick!
 
3:45 PM
@kalina Also I got a gold review badge today
 
@djsmiley2k Gah! Too many tags!
 
@fredley steward?
 
wut?
 
@Blem 3,001 up, 117 down
 
@kalina Yes
 
3:45 PM
@fredley I really don't think so, I'm first in line for 4 out of 6 of those badges
 
Y'know, this entire thing becomes a lot more hilarious when you picture the scenario of an angelic figure having an intense rivalry with a slab of porkchop.
3
 
wait, 3 out of 6
 
@GraceNote Golden porkchop
 
@djsmiley2k General note: If there isn't a tag for it (equipment, battle-trophy, etc.), then I'd recommend not creating it.
Unless it's a game tag.
 
@fredley is meant to be a golden porkchop?
 
3:46 PM
why is there no rpg tag :(
 
@GraceNote are you getting Hyperdimention neptunia V?
 
@djsmiley2k genre tags are bad
 
@kalina Well it is golden!
 
@BenBrocka At some point, yes.
 
@kalina why? I like rpg's on 360.
:(
i want to find all rpg 360 questions.
 
3:47 PM
@djsmiley2k still not a good tag
 
@djsmiley2k ahahahahahaa
AHAHAHahahahahaha
 
@djsmiley2k We don't tag this way.
 
console gamers like in depth games
oh god that's so funny
 
@GraceNote see your answer is helpful :)
@murgatroid99 yah, but I'm leasrning
@kalina enjoy your cutdown simcity
 
@GraceNote I was thinking of just preordering it since NIS games hardly ever go down in price. Stupid limited production runs
Neptunia 1 is still like $30 new
 
3:47 PM
@BenBrocka Good way to keep game value high.
 
@djsmiley2k games are getting simpler because of console gamers
 
funniest thing to me? PC Gamers saying "PC Games these days sucks because of console gamers"
 
I blame you for SimCity being so cut down
 
@BenBrocka Oh, there's still time for preorder.
 
@kalina which console is it on again?
 
3:48 PM
@fbueckert They're a mid-small company, I doubt it's a deliberate choice
 
@djsmiley2k irrelevant
Blizzard have proven they made Diablo 3 so dumbed down because their intention was to release it on a console
 
@djsmiley2k As an extra note, unless your question is specific to the platform (ie. XBox 360), those tags are also not needed.
 
@fbueckert star-ocean-4 ok?
otherwise its star-ocean-the-last-hope
XD
 
@GraceNote yeah, limited edition is sold out though (it's extras were crap anyway)
 
@agent is there some definitive way to discover what power supply I have and if it can handle this video card? where would I look to learn such information
 
3:49 PM
@djsmiley2k I'd go with SO4 since it's more easily noticed.
 
Hoping the Disgaea D2 limited edition has figurines
 
@djsmiley2k Most definitely.
 
@BenBrocka It's been sold out for a looong time.
 
@Ender On the power supply itself
 
i'm sure there's already SO4 for some other game :/
 
3:49 PM
star-ocean-the-last-hope fits inside the tag limit
 
I've always wanted an Etna figure that's not $200
 
@djsmiley2k I meant the expanded version.
 
@kalina Barely.
 
@fbueckert this does not disprove my statement
 
@Ender there is probably a label on the power supply that gives a model number and a wattage. Sometimes the store page for the card will list its PSU requirements, but there's also a lot of things that changed in PSUs in the last 5 or so years.
 
3:50 PM
@BenBrocka I have some slight desire to bring this up over in Skype and see what people have to say about such a delusion.
 
as far as "Is this definitely your problem" it's hard to say, I mean, you might have a bad card or something else might be going wrong. it's just the first thing I suspect when your PSU didn't have the black 4-pin power connectors.
 
@kalina We have no other questions about Star Ocean games.
Huh.
 
@BenBrocka Take it as a weird way of saying "AHAHAHAHAHAHA 'Under $200', good luck with that, FUHAHAHAHAHAHA"
 
@agent86 The requirements the GPU makers write are usually far too high, and they often only state "minimum X Watts"
 
3:51 PM
@fbueckert you will soon
I'mma ask ALL the questions :<
If I'm spending 600 hr on this game, I might as well :D
 
@fbueckert We should have one on SO3, I thought.
 
@GraceNote The limited editions come with the smaller figures very often for around $60-80
 
@MadScientist yeah, I mean, power supplies and related specs are ridiculous. there's no "good" info out there.
 
@BenBrocka Etna.
 
@GraceNote Checking the star-ocean tags, we don't.
 
3:51 PM
I have a Fuka from D4 but I was too late to snag them for any other games
 
Unless it's tagged in another manner.
 
@GraceNote She's finally one of the main characters again, who else would they make the figures of?
 
@BenBrocka Who knows? We have no idea.
@BenBrocka I do too, which is funny since I bought the game years after it came out. ♪
 
@agent86 And if the power supply is a noname OEM one, all bets are off anyway
 
@fbueckert I imagined it would've lost the tag to obscurity but anyway, I was wrong. It must've been some other series I play that someone asked a singular off-hand question that no one answered anyway.
 
3:54 PM
@GraceNote Yeah, I just searched for Star Ocean in the text.
 
@GraceNote Huh, D4 was the only one I managed to get a preorder for. And I got a limited set of Mugen Souls...because I wanted prinny fuzzy dice. It's bonus items are pretty lame. Apparently I missed out on the Ultra Mega Even More Limited Edition which had figures
 
Oh, I was thinking Wild ARMs.
 
Couldn't find any others.
 
hmmm
 
@BenBrocka Fuhahaha~ ♪
 
3:54 PM
i have a question I can answer too
 
@MadScientist indeed. given its age, I'm inclined to think it's underpowered, just because I know there was some serious rebalancing of the various rails at some point in the last few years. I bought a power supply a year or two ago and was still concerned it couldn't drive the card I bought last month. everything turned out OK in the end, though.
 
Neptunia V ordered
 
@agent confirmed PSU is inadequate. thanks for the help!
 
@djsmiley2k If you think it's a problem that other players will run into, feel free to ask, and self-answer.
 
@fbueckert Or if it's SO3 or SO4, let me see if I can answer it. ♪
 
3:58 PM
@GraceNote SO4 is the one for PS3/360, right?
I had to return that one; it had...issues functioning at 1080p on launch PS3s.
 
@fbueckert Yes.
 
Once I got past the first planet, the game would randomly freeze.
 
@fbueckert Funny that. SO3 is the one I had issues with, but that was because we had a poor disc. It took us years before we found a place that could clean it, but then they did, and it was awesome.
 
@GraceNote Feel free to answer my questions then :P
 

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