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Oak
2:00 PM
I mean, in LSN units are faceless
Yea, precisely
 
you don't have to go the rest of your life without a queen
and I always want to see the "best ending" which means a lot of reloading :(
also in those games I want to win practically every encounter. I have that problem with advance wars
 
Oak
In heroes and king's bounty units survive between battles so you have to make a great effort to save them
But at least you don't invest in them personally
 
yeah, I tried to play king's bounty: the legend, I think, and I painted myself into a corner partway through the game
 
Oak
@agent86 oh man, in silent storm I spend have the game looking at the loading screen. It's just a brutal game
But so fun
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Q: I've run out of money in King's Bounty : Legend

EricI've played King's Bounty a lot. I'm in the "Demonic" setting now with fire and lava everywhere. Unfortunately I don't have a lot of money left. Everytime I encounter enemies, I lose a large amount of my own stack. I now know that a good strategy (if not THE best) would have been to invest in re...

Hmm, also good opportunity to remove that
 
Does anyone see a difference?
 
2:03 PM
@ArdaXi One's bound, the other isn't?
 
They're both bound, one just hasn't been equipped yet.
Also one's a Mark II and one's a Mark III, making the one on the right considerably more expensive.
 
@Oak yeah, I read this long after I was done with the game :)
 
At any rate, it's not an unusual impulse engine
 
Oak
@ArdaXi what game is that?
 
So it can hardly be worth a bill's.
 
2:05 PM
Star Trek Online.
 
Oak
@agent86 :)
 
@ArdaXi clearly the one with the 3 is far more elite. I mean, 3 > 2! that's all you need to know.
 
Even then you'd need to consider if the effect is connected... I guess an unusual impulse engine with plasma effects would sell for quite a lot of money.
 
57 secs ago, by Arda Xi
Star Trek Online.
 
@ArdaXi Star Trek Online doesn't have unusuals? It's just a matter of time!!
 
2:06 PM
@Oak I played the paladin in KBL, which is apparently like the worst hero choice in that game.
 
Oak
@ArdaXi thanks :) I see it's an mmo so I should stay clear :)
 
Refineds are the one true currency of the internet dammit!!
 
Oak
@agent86 personally I think the warrior is the worst. The paladin is fine imo
Won the game with it
Don't remember in which difficulty
 
@Oak well, combine a meh character with my terrible strategy, and you have like 20 hours of playtime flushed down the tubes.
I've considered cheating to finish it, but I've just got such a pile of games that completing each one is not really a priority
 
@ArdaXi btw the uncommon impulse engine is for the pyro right?
@ArdaXi runs
 
2:09 PM
3 mins ago, by Arda Xi
57 secs ago, by Arda Xi
Star Trek Online.
 
Oak
@agent86 your loss, I think it's a grand game :) you can try armored princess though
Characters are more balanced there
And the game is better
Though long
And not particularly easy in normal difficulty
I had to give my wife combat lessons for her to finish the first island :)
 
I can't believe this is real!
 
Oak
It is
Very cute game
 
@Oak you're probably right :) I've resigned myself to the fact that until I retire, or at least the kids move out, I'm rarely going to finish any game :)
 
Oak
Played it a bit, but it always reminded me of TF2 itself so much I just preferred to play that :) though of course gameplay is different
@agent86 well it is a long game, so maybe not worth your investment. Just wanted to state it's one of my all-time favorites
I definitely feel your pain
It's funny - when you're young, the question of what games to play is a question of money; when you're older, money doesn't matter anymore but now it's a question of time
 
2:15 PM
@Oak Well, opportunity cost...
 
@Oak yeah, I really expected to have more money as an adult, but by and large I'm on a budget that (while considerably more than I had as a kid) is still not enough to do whatever I want. Plus the time thing.
 
Oak
@YiJiang ?
@agent86 Well yes, games aren't free, but spending 50$ now is definitely different than spending 50$ as a teenager
Even though my rent is astronomical :\
 
The opportunity cost is what you don't get to do from buying something. E.g the opportunity cost of a game is 4,000 1 penny sweets.
 
indeed. I just thought I'd have considerably more to spend on my hobbies as an adult. my misconceptions about money management as a teenager caught up to me as an adult :(
 
Oak
@RonanForman I usually avoid thinking about things that way
 
2:18 PM
It works with time too, the opportunity cost of playing skyrim is about 50 movies.
@Oak For business it's the only way of thinking.
 
Oak
@RonanForman good thing I'm not a businessman, then :)
Man, I wonder how many hours I have played civ5
Does Steam count hours when it is in offline mode?
Hmm, apparently not
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Q: Why are Steam's "hours played" numbers wrong for so many games?

TehShrikeFor many games on my game list, the number of hours I am "on record" for playing are much less than I've actually played. According to Steam, I have not logged any hours playing the games that I poured my time into 4-6 years ago (Half Life 2, CounterStrike: Source, Portal, and others). But then...

Hmm, even so, Steam lists quite a few hours for me there :) I'm guessing that's the game I've played the most across my entirely history as a gamer
Well, except maybe muds and possibly Guild Wars
 
Heh, I was wondering why the Milan metro hasn't really published a single infographic with the two new metro lines that should be completed in the next few years
so I did the work myself
↑ The lines as they are now
↑ The lines as they will be
I removed the station names because you don't care. (Thanks Graphviz)
 
@badp You really use that programme too much.
 
It's actually the first time I use Graphviz directly
PlantUML doesn't do colored lines for rather obvious reasons
 
Whatever, you make too many graphs.
Like... everything's a graph to you.
 
2:31 PM
Aww. They're FUN!
 
Where the heck does one buy chocolate these days?
 
@Mana Oh, I get it, Valentine's is coming up.
Oh, crap, Valentine's.
I second @Mana's notion.
 
@Mana AMAZON
 
@badp Would Amazon ship in time...?
 
@Mana I wouldn't count on it.
 
2:32 PM
"Darling, this finest chocolate comes straight from Detroit"
 
especially in this snowy weather?
 
@ArdaXi He's in Canada, he's got a chance.
 
I mean... I wouldn't take risks with Valentine's.
 
You... perhaps less so.
 
Yeah, it's a pretty big deal that I don't fuck this up
 
2:33 PM
@Mana Make it yourself.
 
Well, my girlfriend got me my birthday present 3 weeks late, I think I've got some room.
 
@Mana You could show her the receipt!
 
At least, to me it is. Somehow I get the feeling she doesn't really care too much since we have a midterm on the same day.
 
@Mana Good, so the greatest gift you can give her is your copy of the exam with all the solutions.
 
But I will perservere and find some chocolates!
 
2:34 PM
@Mana You just need to do it perfectly in half the time
 
@badp ...during the middle of writing the exam?
 
YOU CAN DO IT.
 
Hm. Possibly.
 
Use morse code, or sign language.
 
And if you get busted? You two get busted!
TOGETHER!
 
2:35 PM
How romantic.
5
 
How romantic!
5
 
How romantic.
5
 
...
 
How embarassing
 
But anyways.
 
2:35 PM
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Q: How Do I Enable the Paradox Scope?

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Q: Is it better to save my Reckoning for a particular situation?

agent86Right now whenever I fill my Reckoning meter, I generally try to save it for one of two situations: Many enemies are surrounding me (say, 4 or more) because I believe using it can grant me a significant experience bonus and a chance for rare alchemical elements per-kill. I'm in a really tough f...

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Q: Where are all of the Gate Seals located?

AdanionFinal Fantasy XIII-2 has Gate Seals which allow you to close certain timeline gates which allow you to rewind time and experience the events of that area again. For example the 'Leaving' Gate Seal is in Bresha Ruins 005 AF, and it opens New Bodhum 003 AF. Where are all of the Gate Seals located?

 
You spoilsport
This is clearly the best chatroom ever
 
Clearly.
 
I don't even know what to say.
 
How about "Will you be my valentine's?" thrice, followed by "Fuck no" thrice
That would be very bromantic.
 
Oh, that's a good one.
 
2:37 PM
@RonanForman Actually, it's the next best thing which you give up to enjoy that item
 
I think I'm going to make her an intentionally really crappy drawing of hearts and stuff
 
@Mana You can even take mine! It's CC-BY-SA.
So make sure you mention it wasn't even your own drawing.
 
since she seems to enjoy my sense of humor and mockery of day to day events more than anything, except my intelligence apparently
She thinks I'm smart!
 
@Yi Yeah I forgot about the next best part. I hope I remember for my exam.
 
When you're young, the money you use to buy a game could be used to buy something else which you might also value a lot. Time on the other hand, isn't as 'valuable'
 
2:39 PM
@Mana Impressive. How'd you pull that off?
 
@ArdaXi I type fast and know some keyboard shortcuts she doesn't
 
@Mana: You should get her a Wonka bar:
 
@Wipqozn Please tell me that's a typo.
 
@Wipqozn Please-be-a-typo-please-be-a-typo-please-be-a-typo-please-be-a-typo.
 
@Mana I'll draw you something, then you can claim it's a really expensive commission.
 
2:40 PM
@Mana You're creeping me out now.
3
 
Zeus dammit -_-
 
@ArdaXi Yeah, this is getting pretty weird. I'm gonna go shower.
 
@Mana Have fun.
 
aw, dang
I was hoping arda would say the same thing!
 
And that makes it less weird?
 
2:41 PM
It would be just like in my @Mana x @ArdaXi fan fic!
 
Ew.
 
@Oak Well, economists. The idea of perfectly rational economic agents acting purely in self interest blah blah blah...
 
Oak
@YiJiang Yea, I read both of Ariely's books :)
 
@Mana NO TOUCHING!
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We really should be given a reward for "Best Chat room ever"
 
2:47 PM
I laugh at economics textbooks that uses themselves as examples of markets dominated by monopolies
 
reads the backlog
...quickly goes back to programming
 
yeah. I think I'm safe in saying I don't want to know.
 
I must say that doesn't reach the levels of this other conversation though
 
@badp ...I know you guys don't mean it that way, but that conversation title comes off as really homophobic
 
@FallenAngelEyes Well okay if @Mana and @Arda want it it's not my place to judge it certainly
 
2:59 PM
it's just like "OH NO, GOD FORBID IT MIGHT BE TEH GAY"
 
AMEN
:P
 
It just comes off as very tasteless and a bit offensive
 
@FallenAngelEyes The way I interpreted it was that @badp just prefers not to be a part of a homoerotic conversation.
 
@FallenAngelEyes I could see it if it was so titled by somebody who wasn't involved
 
That's not really homophobic, just... heterosexual, if you will.
 
3:03 PM
@badp That's the thing. The lack of context makes it look like "lolz brogramers who are afraid of catching teh gay" and the fact that it's starred makes it look like we're okay with that.
 
@FallenAngelEyes Good thing there's my own name right by it even in the starred list
and in the conversation list my name is also by the conversation title
 
@badp You... still don't really grasp this concept of "You represent the community" yet, do you?
 
I represent your sexual orientations? That really is news to me.
 
Just remove the last sentence and leave it be.
 
@ArdaXi I don't think sensitivity is badp's strong point ;)
 
3:05 PM
@badp No, you represent this community.
 
I represent this community's sexual orientations?
I don't think I do, no siree.
 
@badp No, you should represent its lack of homophobia.
 
I just see homophobia as an opposite of homoerotism, that might be the problem.
And thus both belonging to the personal sphere of sexual orientation.
 
A community moderator represents the standards the community abides by.
 
So? It's personal.
 
3:07 PM
If you imply homophobia, that makes homophobia okay in this community, which is a Bad Thing®.
 
rolls eyes
 
@badp Well, I guess that proves my point.
 
fine. whatever. Just in case somebody somewhere fails to read the humour
We would not want to offend somebody on the internet
 
@badp No, you wouldn't, because you have a representative role.
 
Then I would have to never speak again
 
3:09 PM
@badp Nay, homophobia isn't so much the opposite of homoeroticism as it is basically the fear and avoidance of things that have to do with homosexuality and does so in a manner that marginalizes homosexual people.
 
@badp Your messages carry weight. I don't see why you won't understand that.
 
@ArdaXi because I in no way can represent this group's fears and... just... everything that belongs to each's personal sphere
 
Which is different than just not being homoerotic.
 
@badp No, you just need to exercise caution when handling controversial topics.
@badp When those personal views are controversial, you don't discuss them in this context.
 
Controversial? What's controversial?
 
3:11 PM
@badp Homophobia is.
 
Is there some controversy on my not wanting to be in homoerotic relationships?
Is there? Why are you blowing my personal stuff to global levels?
 
@badp If it implies homophobia, then yes.
@badp You're a representative, it comes with the job.
 
While I might represent the community I'm not the community itself. I have my own traits.
Those traits may differ from the community and I don't see why I would need to suppress them when they do in casual discussion
like discussing what to do for somebody's valentine
 
@badp Because clearly, they offend people?
 
okay?
 
3:13 PM
When a moderator offends someone, it's worse than when a user does.
 
I really really fail to see what was so offensive, but I've deleted it anyway
 
@badp It's not my intention to try to say that you have to never offend anyone. I'm just trying to explain that phrasing like that carries a connotation that I don't think either you or the community want to be associated with, which is that of being deliberately noninclusive.
 
@FallenAngelEyes What? Why do I need to feel the need to be inclusive when it comes to people I want to be in relationships with?
Does everybody in the world have a natural right to hook me up?
 
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A: 2012 Moderator Election - Town Hall Chat Digest

Tim Stone Grace Note asked: A diamond will be attached to everything you say and have said in the past, including questions, answers and comments. Everything you will do will be seen under a different light. How do you feel about that? Ullallulloo answered: I think that most of my posts are generally ...

 
I don't care what you do, but I think I might just be allowed to have a say on my own relationships, moderator or not
 
3:15 PM
What it sounds like, when someone who isn't straight reads that, is "Even a joking suggestion of not being straight is something we're not comfortable with."
 
@FallenAngelEyes Even I read that into it, although it doesn't offend me personally.
@badp What this looked like is that you are scared of homo-eroticism.
Nothing more, nothing less.
 
@ArdaXi Which perhaps is part of the, yknow, joke
 
That's homophobia, and it's not something a moderator should be implying, ever. Joke or none.
There are people to whom homophobia is never a joke.
 
Not being homosexual means, they can if they want, as long as I don't need to as well. Whereas homophobic is I don't care it has nothing to do with me and has no effect in the slightest, it's still bad.
Clearly not the same.
 
So @Arda is wrong
 
3:18 PM
@RonanForman "Please don't let it be homoerotic oh god please" is the latter.
 
Being scared of being homoerotic is not homophobic
 
(Pulling it out of context because it was starred, and starred messages don't have context)
 
It would have been homophobic if I wasn't involved
but I was
 
19 secs ago, by Arda Xi
(Pulling it out of context because it was starred, and starred messages don't have context)
 
tsk tsk the context was by the message author, the conversation author and the fact I had top message percentage in the conversation
and those are tightly coupled together in all the ways you could get to the conversation
either from the starred list or the conversation list
So really, all the required context was there.
 
3:20 PM
@badp Exactly. By the message author. Message author being a moderator.
Ergo, this is the context: "Please don't let it be homoerotic oh god please," said a moderator of this community.
 
...I see you're conveniently skipping the part where it's not homophobic
 
There's nothing wrong with this extreme mancrush that I have on a photo of Arda in a suit.
 
regardless of my having a diamond or not
 
@badp Well, yes, you deleted it.
I can't literally quote it.
 
You asked me to.
Also you can quote it, you're an owner.
 
3:22 PM
I didn't, and not my point.
@badp Negative, I'm not a moderator.
 
@badp Those 2 are the same, being scared of something even though it doesn't effect you, and saying it's bad even though it doesn't affect you are the same.
 
@RonanForman what? it did affect me.
I did also specify
24 mins ago, by badp
@FallenAngelEyes Well okay if @Mana and @Arda want it it's not my place to judge it certainly
 
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Q: What does the code included with new copies of Amalur do?

agent86Included with my copy of Kingdoms of Amalur was a single-use code, like the ones that unlock Catwoman DLC in Batman: Arkham City, and multiplayer mode in several games. I seem to remember reading somewhere that this code unlocks some extra quests in this game, but I'm not sure exactly what its p...

 
which made it clear, if it wasn't, that the only relationships left from that conversation was me-arda and me-mana
Anyway, whatever, we're not mature enough to even make hints to jokes about sexual orientations. Got it.
 
I think that we should all just relax.
 
3:25 PM
@badp It doesn't effect you, no one is forcing you to be gay.
 
Oak
@Mana I think that for badp and Arda, arguing with each other is a form of relaxation. Or at least of recreation :)
 
Actually let's remove the stars too they might offend the homophobic
Are we homophobicphobic?
Who says homophobia is bad? Somebody from up above?
 
@badp Calm down.
 
@badp You have this annoying trait of extrapolating something that doesn't make any sense.
 
There's no reason to make a big deal out of this.
 
3:26 PM
@badp We can make jokes, but putting things in all caps doesn't make it a joke.
 
@ArdaXi Reductio ad absurdum, I presume
 
(I didn't use all caps.)
 
@YiJiang Well, yes, but with false premises.
 
Oak
Do we need to verify the edit on
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Q: Help identifying a japanese sidescrolling adventure game NES/Genesis. The setting is futuristic and there are 2 playable characters, boy and girl

delHelp identifying a japanese sidescrolling adventure game, i can't remember if it's NES or Sega Genesis. The setting is futuristic and there is a level where you're in space and another where you have reach the top and also a level with fires. There are 2 playable characters a boy and a girl they ...

Or can we just assume it's the author, judging from the tone?
 
I always go AFK when Fun happens.
 
3:28 PM
For example: "We don't want a representative of the community to offend a sizeable group" -> "We are not mature enough to joke about potentially offensive stuff"
 
Oak
Actually it's a 3-hour old question... so I guess we can be sure it's the author
 
That's a non sequitur.
 
I'm not saying we can't joke about things. I'm just asking if we can be aware that stuff like that is hurtful to those of us who don't have the privilege of being heterosexual because we've been harmed by people who think it's "just a joke" to be afraid of being non-straight in any form.
 
@Oak I don't think we can be sure of that at all, and I pretty much reject substantive ITG edits from anon's as a matter of course.
But then, this is one of the reasons that ITG is a Terrible Thing and Should Be Purged With Fire Eternally.
 
Oak
@LessPop_MoreFizz 3 hours later? Speaking in a first-person? Not editing or rejecting the first paragraph, only adding to it? I think we can be fairly sure... at least, I voted for approving the edit. You can rollback if you want to, but really, who will want to do that just 3 hours after other than the original author?
 
3:33 PM
@FallenAngelEyes I hoped my very first reply was sufficient to make this clear. I guess it wasn't. The conversation has since been deleted.
 
@LessPop Damn statistics!
 
@Oak I have seen attempts at answers that don't look dissimilar. But then, that speaks to the 'poor quality magnet' issue of ITG. Anyways, I've ignored the tag and generally try as hard as possible to pretend it just isn't there, so I'm not going to rollback the edit - I figure that someday reality will bend to my will.
POSITIVE VISUALIZATION.
@RonanForman OH GOD THEIR WEBSITE.
WHY DID I GO TO THEIR WEBSITE?
 
Oak
What, they use flash?
 
What website?
 
3:38 PM
@LessPop_MoreFizz I made this mistake as well
in their links they have a link to a site that's subtitled with "The Soundtrack for White Revolution"
 
Now I have to.
 
@FallenAngelEyes I went to the news site
it is... awful.
 
Oak
@LessPop_MoreFizz from the wording, it can be interpreted as encouraging black women to have sex with white men. I'm not sure that's the message the national alliance wants to send :P
 
@Oak They can dream. No self respecting white man would want them. Clearly.
 
3:40 PM
@LessPop_MoreFizz ...oh god why...
This is terrifying
 
@FallenAngelEyes The photo on the sidebar with The Reality of Race caption.
hahahahaha
 
I hope that's a troll...
 
@LessPop_MoreFizz Also apparently Auschwitz wasn't a concentration camp according to them. How silly of us to be mistaken.
 
@Fallen What was it then?
 
@Ullallulloo It's not. The National Alliance is one of the foremost white supremacist groups remaining in the US.
 
3:43 PM
@RonanForman Apparently a museum.
 
They're pretty repugnant.
 
@Fallen It's a museum now.
 
I think the worst part is the reddit thread with that picture is full of comments like this one:
> How is this racist?
With more than 10 upvotes.
Oh Reddit. :(
 
@RonanForman It's apparently all a Jewish propaganda conspiracy.
Guh, I am closing this, it gives me the heebie-jeebies.
 
@Fallen Well that makes sense, oh wait, it's total bullshit.
The whole site.
 
3:47 PM
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Q: Any Easy Solution to the Hands of Time Clock Puzzles?

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@badp I know, I just wanted to explain my reasoning, and I appreciate you listening. I wasn't trying to jump down your throat or anything.
@badp Sorry for late reply, got distracted by white supremacy.
 
The fact that they use the word 'whites' kind of proves that they think race is the most important thing.
 
@FallenAngelEyes Here, have a good story to make up for it: nymag.com/health/features/aids-cure-2011-6
 
@RonanForman Yep. Like @LessPop said, they're huge white supremacist group here in the US.
@LessPop_MoreFizz Haha, thanks, I did hear about that when it broke the news.
 
Just goes to show America doesn't believe people are citizens on the Internet.
 
3:56 PM
@RonanForman "That's a good point, let me think for a bit... oh wait, my mistake, that's absolute bullshit."
 
@Arda Yeah that's what I was thinking of. Have you seen the animation of that?
 
Of course.
 
@RonanForman Wait, what? How does that follow from what?
 
@LessPop_MoreFizz Because citizens are not allowed to say these kind of things in most nations.
 

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