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9:01 PM
> apparently items belonging to sets are less common than others.
@badp Yes, exactly. That's the whole point. And it disagrees with what I quoted from your blog entry
 
Fine.
I said "less common" because that's what they are in my experience - I've yet to get the YER as a drop, e.g.
I guess I'll change the wording
 
@badp That's because it only seems to apply to the new sets.
 
This changes everything.
 
They have a super secret project!
And it's dark.
 
9:06 PM
It's from the far upper-left corner of test chamber 3 of Portal 2: Episode 1!
 
user30
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Q: 2 servers using same name servers?

Chris MuenchIs it possible/recommended for 2 servers to use the same name servers? For example, if I have 2 vps servers; one for business one for personal. Can they both use the same name servers? NOTE: these would be cpanel vps. Cpanel allows setup of name servers for domain name.

 
user30
all... those... gravatars...
 
@ThomasMcDonald ...
wtf am I missing?
This can't be casual.
oh. Right. Mod abuse. As in, abuse of the mod.
:P
 
:o So we're going to have elections again?
 
> Fixed a case where health overheal wasn't being applied when multiple healers were involved.
This. I knew I wasn't making this up.
 
9:20 PM
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Q: Paddington Bear Choppertar

Kyle BrandtMany of our top users seem to have avatars with a picture of themselves in a car with what appears to me to be Paddington Bear: So what is the story behind this?

 
Bleah, I'm supposed to bring juice to a breakfast thing at work tomorrow.
I can't decide if I want to stop and pick those up tonight or tomorrow night.
 
@ArdaΞ This is awesome. We should all take Mars and write our nick name in green, unreadably transparent letters on it.
 
What do you mean unreadably?
 
This would lead us to making a terrible mod of your avatar.
 
(It's true)
 
9:24 PM
@badp I think should all become ninjas with different face colors.
 
I call orange!
 
This avatar has a secret backstory anyway.
 
@Powerlord Paint cans?
 
I call blue!
 
I call Team Spirit! Wait, wrong game.
 
9:25 PM
Now how would that work.
 
@Powerlord You'll have to call your team first.
Would red be like... anti-mods?
 
@ArdaΞ RED!
 
I call dibs on rgb(0, 173, 229)
 
@badp Oh good, you're bringing the dip.
 
No, I'm calling it.
 
9:27 PM
Yay, got a FedEx checkin scan in Perrysburg, Ohio 40 minutes or so ago.
 
Sounds like it's just a couple more weeks then!
 
Also, what's with all the "new" multi-color paints Valve came out with?
 
Also I take it no strange engie items, right?
 
"Color of an Engineer's Coveralls" seriously?
I think it was Engineer's coveralls for one of them anyway.
@badp No idea when Valve is changing over crates if they actually do today.
 
A true engineer's colors of choice would be RGB(255,0,0) and RGB(0,0,255) obviously
 
9:28 PM
I'm upset... played TF2 for less than an hour yesterday and got a crate drop.
Which means that, if they change crate series today, I won't get one of the new ones.
 
What class was it for?
 
Good news for me! Lots of auditions. Good news for gamers! Voice actors with lots of auditions :)
 
@badp Scout
I'll likely still open it, as I don't have a Strange Scattergun yet, but...
 
Aw.
 
Wait, they're class-based now?
 
9:30 PM
Crates have always been class-based.
 
@KevinY No they haven't.
Only since they started dropping Strange items.
 
Really?
Hmm.
 
Right. Never been quite interested in crates myself.
 
You've missed the soldier, the heavy and the - um - demoman crates
You're late for scout, spy and pyro crates
They uncrate strange items for those classes.
 
It seems they've been class-based since around #10.
 
9:32 PM
The strange items generally have a higher value than the hats from the same crates.
 
@KevinY As I recall (since I can't view that page from work), #18 was paints only.
 
(It had Engy stuff.)
But they had paints as well.
I see.
 
I swear there was one crate series that was only paints.
Which struck me as bizarre at the time, as paints have a higher value than random items do.
 
I doubt strange PDAs/wrenches/whatever-is-it-will-eat-the-sentry-kills can work without code changes that might or might not have shipped already
 
9:35 PM
Well #9 had all paints.
Other than the Grenadier's Softcap.
 
Grenadier's Softcap is the bane of my existance.
When crafting random hats, I got two of those darn things.
Anyway, going home time.
 
Bai.
 
Bye.
 
So I won't know just yet what is it that we're going to do about mods
I'll check the flags and hit the bed for now, though
 
user30
9:41 PM
I think the code changes for the new stuff hit today @badp.
 
my connection had to become ultra slow right about now, sigh.
Oh, okay. It was dropbox being naughty.
I guess it got really confused at the thought of new elections.
@GraceNote How many slots?
 
@GraceNote makes note of upcoming Town Hall Chat
 
Oh great. Now I have to worry about whether I'll nominate or not.
 
@TimStone Oh, drat, we actually have to run that kind of thing, don't we?
Been out of the election game so long I forgot we did that kind of thing.
 
Aye
 
9:46 PM
Awww
 
@GraceNote Oh come on. You could've had just "♪" as your nomination speech and you still would've won.
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Actually there hasn't been one for some time. I believe the last one was maths (when they randomly had another election for reasons I forgot to determine)
 
I get the working on ur problemz cat while trying to set the room description to...
of Gaming's StackExchange™ AlienOverlord AskQuestion™ mothership, wherein our resident angry mob are going to make a terrible charge for our lazers Grace Note will fire in the nyarragabaldic attempt to reject the world's clearly incorrect, obsolete and unsufficiently truthful "mathematics" and replace it with our own, so that we may reject Grace Note and replace him with our own choice of moderators in the upcoming, new StackExchange™ PeopleEmpowering Elections-O-Matic testing initiative.
 
@TimStone They lost one moderator and one has been MIA for months
 
Ah ha, that explains that.
 
9:48 PM
Note that this includes them already taking the 4th runner up from their first election, too.
 
Heh
 
Yay elections!
 
room topic changed to The Bridge: of Gaming's StackExchange™ AlienOverlord AskQuestion™ mothership, wherein our resident angry mob are going to make a terrible charge for our lazers Grace Note will fire in the nyarragabaldic attempt to reject Grace Note and replace him with our own choice of moderators in the upcoming, new StackExchange™ PeopleEmpowering Elections-O-Matic testing initiative.
 
Cue @Mana with another terrible mod comment at @Arda.
 
It appears the audit message of all things wouldn't fit the length limit.
 
9:49 PM
Gahahaha, Nagi is so awesome because her spear is so long you get Back Attacks when stabbing a guy from the front!
 
@GraceNote Hah. Facestabs!
Not just in TF2, I see.
 
^^ is what I was thinking
 
@badp It amuses me that this actually is a real thing
 
@GraceNote 2? Why 2?
 
@FallenAngelEyes We're all grown up.
 
9:53 PM
Because we need 2 mods to fill the place of @GraceNote's super-modding. (Err, moderator. ing.)
2
 
user30
@Zoredache The infection... it's spreading to other rooms
 
@FallenAngelEyes We're big enough. Plus some other small housekeeping reasons but that's somewhat not my liberty to explain those.
 
Gotcha
 
Damn straight. It's like if Arda became mod and then left, we'd need 0 mods to replace his terrible moderation.
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9:55 PM
@KevinY Moderating?
 
Nonono. Moderator. Ing.
 
Downside to long spear - if you attack a knight from behind, you might hit their shield.
 
@Mana Well, all you'll need to do is manage to get both Ivo and me in.
@Mana Moderation?
@GraceNote Wouldn't you stab right through him?
 
@ArdaΞ I would except my spear is bouncing off his shield
 
user30
sigh lets start with the Ivo bashing again
 
9:57 PM
@GraceNote Is he holding it behind his back?
 
@ArdaΞ He's holding it in front of him
 
@GraceNote Then my question stands
@ThomasMcDonald I'm not bashing.
 
Hence why. Remember, this is the spear I just mentioned that lets me do Back Attacks when stabbing them from the front
(So, in fact, if he's facing me, the shield isn't an issue)
 
@GraceNote But... how does that... does it bend or something?
 
@ArdaΞ It's quite straight. Just long range
 
9:58 PM
The shield deflection creates a spacetime distortion that makes it as though the spear never impaled him.
 
It's kinda like how in Fire Emblem, Archers can attack units 2 spaces away, but not units right next to them.
 
@Thomas He meant that Ivo would be a good enough mod for 2, so 2 + 0 = 2
thereby effectively replacing Grace
 
@Mana That's not what I meant.
 
> Well, I suck.
 
user30
Anyway, I have to go and throw the last stuff together for this festival, then I'm off to bed
 
10:00 PM
kk, good luck man!
 
G'night
 
@Mana Arda + Ivo = -Arda
 
Bye @Thomas.
 
user30
Although I'm still not sure exactly who the Go! Team are and why they're headlining when Feeder & Maximo Park are on the other two nights
 
@Thomas I guess you had better Go! look them up. HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
slaps self on the back with a dead trout
 
10:02 PM
Ohohoh, you and your puns today @Mana.
 
@Kevin It's me slowly worming my way into everybody's special mod heart by trying to act hip and cool.
 
@Mana You're failing.
 
@Mana You should bring us all lunch tomorrow. That'd be super cool.
 
Lame. :(
 
Mana: The Coolest and Hippest Mod
 
10:05 PM
 
user30
Feeder should be awesome. So will Beardyman and Miles Kane
 
beardymaaaaaan
how does that guy do that stuff man
 
Well I guess I should figure out if I'm going to run again for elections.
 
user30
I know
 
10:08 PM
0
Q: I need to compute attacks with different durations do they end at the same time

Kevin BuchanI am playing a game (Valor on iPad) and several people are attacking a single city. We're all different distances away and have various troops that have different travel times. We need to be able to pick a time for us to hit the city, then count back the travel durations to determine what time ...

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Q: Is there any way of removing players' name tags above their heads in SMP?

carterpapeMy friends and I have set up a war server where we basically just kill each other, but we have really elaborate bases and stuff to hide from each other. However, the hidden-ness of us, can get ruined due to the name tags appearing above players' heads whether or not those players can be seen. E.G...

 
ka-ching, new tag get
 
@KevinY Haha
 
I suck at titles. :/
 
Ahh yes, since I haven't gotten to say it while you were in chat, congratulations @GraceNote!
 
Thanks!
 
10:17 PM
 
@yijiang I summon you, for we are about to get elections.
 
user30
and drama
 
You know what to do, and how to offer the proper sacrifices to the jQuery gods.
 
Okay no more Pokémon comics.
 
@KevinY Hahaha that's awesome
 
10:24 PM
@KevinY Just pokèball the pokèball.
 
@badp It's accent aigu, not accent grave, neh?
 
@Fallen Yeh.
 
I've no idea what you're responding to
 
The badp reply.
 
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Q: A little birdie whispered to me an awful lot of little birdies, shaped like site banners, should be whispering to you about elections real soon

badpYo gents, Grace Note now has a lot more time to dedicate to Stack Exchange, as the latter hired the former. This, however, means that he'll have to dedicate less of his Stack Exchange time to Gaming proper, although he swears this is still his main site. I, badp, am about to take six months in ...

 
10:37 PM
@badp Really? We're beyond 20k visits/day?
 
We need more questions to get asked. :/
 
Ah gotcha
 
stackexchange.com/sites So if we're beyond 20k, where does this page grab its stats from?
 
10:52 PM
I think he meant pageviews
 
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George GaálI've try to made artificial corruption biome in Terraria for two purposes: farming mobs; getting a lot of vile mushrooms and deathweeds; But I want to do it accurate and limit size of corrupted area. So I'm in stuck. Will ebonstone make next to it blocks of dirt corrupted, if I place them in...

 
11:09 PM
wait what"
> Grace Note now has a lot more time to dedicate to Stack Exchange, as the latter hired the former. This, however, means that he'll have to dedicate less of his Stack Exchange time to Gaming proper, although he swears this is still his main site.
@GraceNote you're a man?
 
@Wipqozn Does it matter?
 
@Mana No. I've always just assumed he was a women.
Just surprised is all.
 
shrug I don't think she's really stated to anyone what her gender is. I know that she doesn't seem to like being asked.
Just go with whatever your assumption is.
 
@Mana REally? In that case, never mind. No offense was intended.
My apologies @GraceNote if any offense was made.
 
Don't worry, she doesn't really seem to take offense at comments like that, more when people repeatedly pester her after she has already told them that she doesn't say what her gender is.
 
11:16 PM
Okay, good.
 
'course, I am not Grace, so this could all very well be wrong, in which case: whoops. Sorry.
 
lol
the other day i pre-ordered "From dust", because I love those kinds of games
but mainly
because it included tf2 content
I am now officially addicted to tf2
 
oh man Juan
 
Free hats I assume?
 
you got something for the hat
 
11:20 PM
a mask
 
no @Wipqozn, free game
 
a shaman mas
k
 
well
in your defense, it's a really cool mask
 
yeah... you can only use it with the demoman though
I thought it was with all classes
like the companion cube pin
 
Demoman? Wouldn't it make more sense with the Pyro?
 
11:23 PM
They should give out a Dwarf Fortress hat.
 
Aww man, guess I can't do the vague title thing in cases like these.
 
@Mana how is your title vague?
 
Iunno, isn't it?
 
@JuanManuel I'm not thrilled with the Ubisoft DRM :(
 
@Mana what did your title used to be..? because I can/t seem to tell from the edit :'
 
11:34 PM
How do I defeat the final boss?
 
oh, ok
 
with chantelise in the tags
 
nevermin
 
heh
 
misunderstood the edit
yeah it is vague, I agree. No offense intended of course.
 
11:35 PM
OFFENSE TAKEN
 
although it DOES make you a terrible person
 
oh okay
man, he had to beeline to my question for the first edit though
HOW CAN I TRY TO BECOME A MOD WITH THIS SCAR UPON MY RECORD
 
With more terrible puns!
 
good point
 
Or this bullet in your head... wait, did I say that out loud?
 
11:37 PM
@Mana So are you going to run?
 
Well, the main question is of course whether or not I would be helpful to the site as a mod, and whether or not there's a pair of candidates that would work better than me and another person
idk, I guess it could work? So maybe I will. But maybe this is a bad sign, maybe if I was really a good mod for this site I wouldn't be having doubts about running like this.
 
Perhaps you should just wait to see who else runs then.
 
ja, if I recall it was...wait, wasn't it you @badp who was only going to run if a bad candidate showed up?
wait badp's not even here
 
@Mana Throw your hat in if you really want to do it and think you'd want to commit to it. Don't base your eligibility on who else is running, just go on whether or not you think you have the commitment for the job because only you can know that.
 
@Fallen Good point. I'll do it then, yo.
 
11:43 PM
@Mana Excellent.
HOw do elections work anyways?
 
@JuanManuel: There are all sorts of other promos now, too... Quake 4, Brink, Fallout: New Vegas...
 
@Wipqozn 3 stages, iirc.
If you dig into Meta, you can see the archives of our first election
 
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Q: 2011 Community Moderator Election

CommunityThe 2011 Community Moderator Election is now underway! Community moderator elections have three phases: Nomination phase Primary phase Election phase Most elections take between two and three weeks, but this depends how many candidates there are. Please visit the official election page at ...

 
@Mana \o/
 
Thank you
 
11:46 PM
It's always good to have people that are active run. We had a few people in the first one who hadn't shown their faces around much before the elections, so I think their chances were hurt by that
 
I can't recall -- is this the site where game recommendations are NOT welcome?
 
@gravyface Are you running for mod?!?
Oh. Yeah, unfortunately game-recs are off-topic here.
 
uh nope, not running for mod.
 
They just couldn't work with the way the site is.
 
ok, is there a game rec on SE?
 
11:48 PM
This chat would be the place
 
Yeah.
 
Pretty much. There's no real site.
There was a proposal for one but it got totally rejected!
which sucks. But oh well.
 
yeah, that does suck.
I think recommendations would be fine as as community wiki.
 
@Mana It stated it doesn't care what people think it is.
 
anyways, looking for a good real-time strategy, like AOE, but newer. MP co-op essential.
totally out of the RTS loop
 
11:51 PM
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Q: Where to read diary from Wings (Amiga game)

dariusThere was a nice WWI flight game from Cinemaware on the Amiga called Wings. Between the sections of the game was a diary which was actually quite a good read. I never played the game to the end and didn't get a chance to read the full diary. I wonder if the diary can be found on the internet some...

 
Starcraft 2 is what's really big these days in the RTS scene, but that's quite different from what I think you want
 
@gravyface We had a whole run around about this (seriously, this debate went on for months) and determined that it wouldn't be an ideal solution
 
Wouldn't it have been convenient if @Lazers posted a question about an RTS.
 
@Mana What made you think that, anyway?
 
@Arda Think...think what?
oh
 
11:52 PM
See what I replied to... seriously.
 
yeah I just did
I was more joking than anything.
 
@Mana Aren't you always.
 
@Mana Hrm. If you're looking for a more economics focused type RTS, I'd recommend Anno 1404 aka Dawn of Discovery
It's not very combat-focused though, if that's important to you
 
@gravyface ^^
 
Anno 1404 -- resource gathering?
 
11:53 PM
I know the Venice expansion added Multiplayer, but I'm not sure if it's competitive only
Kind of an economic/city building simulation RTS
 
hmm, kind of want to push around some peons, ala Warcraft I and II.
 
Ah gotcha, Anno 1404 wouldn't be for you then :)
 
loved playing that when I was in highschool. Dialup city. :)
 
So...there is Starcraft 2. Which is by the same company
 
build a huge base, take on the hordes.
 
11:54 PM
Yeah, SC2 is the only thing I can think of current gen...
 
yeah, I recall SC1.
 
goes look at Steam list
 
and where there is definitely a lot of peon pushing
 
I don't have a lot of RTS games
just Darwinia/Multiwinia and 2 Dawn of War games
The 1st DoW series was quite good
I couldn't get into the DoW II as much, the gameplay shift was a bit jarring for me, but it's still a quite popular game
 
that might be worth taking a look at. probably cheap on steam too I would think. Need a copy for the wife.
 
11:56 PM
Yeah, the 1st gen DoW is pretty cheap
There's 4 of them
I'm not sure how many expansions DoW II is up to now
But those take a different gameplay approach
Also regarding unit pushing, I'd recommend Command and Conquer games
Except 4
4 can go die in a fire and is dead to me
But Red Alert 2 and its expansion are classic awesomeness
definitely unit focused
 

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