The Bridge - 2011-03-27 (page 1 of 2)

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FallenAngelEyes

12:36 AM

I apparently missed a boatload of drama o_O

@Ivo Have you actually gotten ahold of the Squier?

1:06 AM

what

the

what just happened woah what WHAT

well shit. That was a horrible thing to come back to.

LessPop_MoreFizz

@Mana :(

1:41 AM

0

Q: Permanent Resource Monitor Window for Gaming?

Hey, I'm a little new here, so please tell me if this is the wrong place to ask such a question: I sometimes have problems with CPU/RAM usage while gaming and like having a resource monitor open while I game. The current one I use is the one that comes with W7. However, this program is more supp...

2:09 AM

I'm confused

LessPop_MoreFizz

2:27 AM

Metacritic now rating humans.

@LessPop_MoreFizz Hmm, interesting...I'd hate to be under that kind of microscope, heh.

2 hours later…

4:34 AM

0

Q: How should a Bronze Protoss defend probes mid game?

I'm Bronze Protoss and I have an issue with losing lots of workers to harasses - either pure air or drops, usually not long after 1st expansion. Being Bronze I only have one strategy - cannons on the mineral line (when I remember to do that) and maybe I leave a few stalkers behind too. What o...

starcraft-2 strategy protoss

LessPop_MoreFizz

4:54 AM

Ok, I have an 86 on Metacritic and Miyamoto has an 80. This is bullshit. Someone needs to stop this crap before it goes too far.

Tweeted by therealcliffyb on March 26, 2011 at 8:31 PM

there we go.

Hahah

5:38 AM

0

Q: How do I reactivate my Peggle Nights in-app purchase on my new iPad?

I own Peggle for iPhone and bought the Peggle Nights addon from within the app. I installed Peggle on my new iPad, but Peggle Nights isn't available. If I click "purchase", will I be charged another $4, or will the app just reactivate my purchase? I've seen other iOS games (like 100 Rogues) that...

dlc ipad peggle-nights peggle

2 hours later…

7:11 AM

1

Q: How to obtain the Gordian achievement in Zen Bound 2?

The description reads "Blindly refuse defeat", which is about as clear as mud. What do I need to do to earn this achievement?

spoiler achievements zen-bound-2

2 hours later…

9:31 AM

@Mana I'm sorry. :(

9:45 AM

@ArdaXi I just don't understand, man.

You seemed so cool with everything. I never got the impression that you were actually irritated by some of the things we said.

@Powerlord No, we did not have this discussion already

And now you're leaving and it's like...well, fuck, I guess I screwed that up.

The game rec discussion is about game rec questions only

If you thought it ruled all subjective questions out of the site you are mistaken

@Mana You had nothing to do with it. As far as I can remember, anyway.

I know, but even so, I feel partly responsible if just for not giving you anything really good to remember about this place.

9:48 AM

@Mana That was a little bit exaggerated. I am really going to miss you guys.

maaaaan

@failbadp Oh, right, that reminds me - a question requires cleanup

I just don't get why you have to do the dramatic deleting your account thing

10

Q: How to set a new spawn point?

I am spawning too far from my home

The last 3 answers basically say the same thing and aren't relevant

it feels like you're trying to make a statement or make sure you stop wasting time on here

9:50 AM

@Mana Both, yes.

if it's the former then it's not really a clear one and I think it's causing more confusion and discord than anything, if it's the latter then you can always control yourself

@CharlieSomerville You are a horrible person :P

I used to use this site all the time but now that school is tying me to a chair and beating me with a giant pole I've basically tuned this site out of my life for the time being

10 hours ago, by Arda Xi

I just want to make sure I burn the bridges, because I will come back if I don't, and I'll return to feeling like this, and I don't want to.

that is

incredibly unclear

whose bridges are you burning

9:52 AM

@ArdaXi deleting your account doesn't do that; you can make a new one at any single time

My own.

Jeff's? badp's? Ivo's?

oh

well

asdf

The only thing deleting your account deletes is your votes and bounties

@failbadp Yes, but I'm participating on this site way less than I did in the beta when I had access to the mod tools.

Basically Arda I just think you're a cool guy and it would suck to not really talk to you anymore.

9:53 AM

I don't think that's what you want ;)

@ArdaXi So what? You're this close to gaining 'em back.

If I'm back to 1 rep there's no way I'm participating here any more.

@failbadp I'm not.

You can go back to 1 rep while suspended as well, then you also don't get to come back whenever you decide

That's more fitting your desires, not that I'd like to see 'em come true of course

It's going to take at least 2 months before I reach 10k.

I'll just say you're looking faaaaaar too much into this

Next time we'll just tell ya to stop

Most of this isn't grounded in chat, though.

9:56 AM

Yeah, it'd have been weird to explain otherwise

I wonder if I can suspend you from meta but not from the site.

This requires testing!

woah wait what

what caused this then? I'm so confused :(

@Mana A combination of dozens of incidents.

@Mana I and Arda had one of our endless arguments. Ivo decided enough was enough and suspended both. Well, he only suspended Arda because mods can't be suspended on chat.

ayup!

fail badp ♦, Italy

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discussion support tagging feature-request status-completed top-7 allowed-questions

well I was referring to non-chat stuff since it was just said that most of his reasons for leaving weren't grounded in chat

It's perfectly possible to suspend somebody on meta only

Also, lol.

9:58 AM

@failbadp Uh, do you really have to do testing on yourself?

badp always takes the extreme approach to life

But yes, For Science!!, how can I forget?

or the druggie experimentation approach

"yo man, what better test subject than myself " injects ban

@Mana "I'll just see what this suspend-o-matic can do..." sticks hand into machine

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IT'S BELOW MINUS NINE THOUSAND

10:00 AM

It's...an application/octet stream?

Try again

better

@YiJiang Who else can I safely try stuff on?

especially since I can also self-unsuspend

@failbadp Well, asking on MSO would be another alternative

Or even, ask on MSO Chat for faster results

too slow man

slow justice is no justice

10:02 AM

@YiJiang Yeah, I'm sure it's full of people who have experience in suspending themselves on meta sites

@failbadp No, its full of devs who built this feature

one year ago, and will probably test it to see what actually happens :P

Also I'd like to point out that doing science is a great way to whore MSO rep!!

12

A: What happens when you reach zero flag weight?

When you reach zero flag weight, you can still flag normally and you still get your base flag allowance. However, no moderator flags you make will make it to the moderators' flag list... ...unless some other user with non-zero flag weight also flags a post you're flagging, in which case both fla...

It's funny, now I'm unsuspended on meta but still have 1 rep until the reps sync

So the only privileges I have are mod privs

Anyhow, that Minecraft question still haven't been cleaned up yet. Are you going to clean it, or are you going to just leave those answers there?

@YiJiang I'm going through the flag queue. Just a sec.

I don't think I've flagged those answers, actually.

10:11 AM

flags YiJiang as offensive

oh

snap

@Mana ?_?

@YiJiang I've deleted the newest answer as dupe, but the others... eh.

BAD FLAGS

BAD FLAGS ALERT

MANA IS GOING TO MAKE A TERRIBLE FLAG

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flag weight 542.3183

10:13 AM

I can just feel it

what

@failbadp CAPTURE THE ~~FLAG~~ MANA!!!

I'm half-tempted to make a bunch of terrible flags if only to figure out why my flag weight has decimals

@Mana Flag weight over 500 will increase asymptomatically to 750

whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat

that is CRAZY

just like

that hurts my head bro

10:16 AM

@Mana Indeed, go support this MSO proposal then:

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Q: We don't need (to see) flag weight!

TL;DR: Flag weight is not very clear. Just telling the user how many flags got approved/rejected would increase the flagging behavior. Additionally, flag feedback could improve this even more. Question: Flag weight is shown on a User's profile as a number between 0 and 750, each user starts wi...

feature-request flag-weight

hmmm

@Mana Remember that a bad flag is -10 even above 500

I don't want to blindly commit my vote to a petition on meta

even if a good flag above 500 is worth less and less than 10

because of votes getting locked in

I'll have to read that through carefully

10:17 AM

@Mana oh, I will, the downvote way.

I'll downvote you

@Mana I usually blindly upvote proposals, but only if there are unicorns and/or waffles and/or freehand circles in the proposal

Why do you need to know how many flags were approved

My policy for blind voting: 1. Check author. 2. If the author is Grace or Tzenes, upvote; else pass

@failbadp Because its good to know if you've Got it Right™

10:20 AM

@YiJiang If you got it wrong however you don't know which one was wrong

Unless tzenes' post contains strange Family Guy images. In that case halt.

@Mana are there non-strange Family Guy images worth posting?

@failbadp Which is why I also supported the 'See flag status' proposal, but at least this would be going in the right direction

@YiJiang Link? I can get behind that

except then I'll get people whining at me

MAAAAAAAAAN WHY DID YOU DISMISS MY FLAG HERE THIS IS A TERRIBLE POST

tell them they are a terrible person

10:23 AM

@failbadp Eh, they can't know which mod did what to the flag, just if it was dismissed or accepted (is there a middle ground)?

@YiJiang Now apply this chatroom's fault attributing policies

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Q: View pending flags

I would like to see a "my pending flags" page/section developed. At the minute we can flag questions etc and suggest what is wrong with them but there is no way of knowing whether the flags we have placed have been accepted/rejected. We therefore cannot tell (without looking at flag weight that...

feature-request flagging

Found it

so uh

what's Juan been up to lately?

@YiJiang The middle ground is "eh, I'll let other mods handle it"

@Mana I guess he's terribly busy with work and family, but he's still moderating in his hands off style

true, just noticed that

sigh

what a lonely place

@ARDA STARES

10:29 AM

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woah okay

I wasn't expecting that

KITTEH GAZE

noooooooooooooooo

I thought I found my room mate's hidden loonie

but it was only a quarter

:(

@Mana Ewwww... you found a quarter of your room mate's loonie?

uh

well

that too

10:32 AM

@LessPop_MoreFizz We wouldn't have it any other way

Instead of STARE, we should all just use KITTEH GAZE

stare is faster

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unless...

can has kitteh gaze bookmarklet ploz?

I will never stare @Arda ever again :/

10:34 AM

in The Tavern (General) on Meta Stack Overflow Chat, 17 hours ago, by Yi Jiang

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@failbadp Just use placekitten.com, most of the common sizes feature kittens in gazing positions

I like this kitten gaze best

@YiJiang placekitten.com/1/1

PIXEL KITTEN IS IN UR BROWSER TRACKIN UR PAGEZ

@failbadp Ahahahahahahaha :P

I wonder if this can be abused in a desktop generator

placekitten.com/1280/1024

user30

Moooooorrning.

10:38 AM

It can has!

@ThomasMcDonald Moming.

user30

So what is the actual time now?

It's 42:79 CET'o clock.

Also, it's time to update some Game On stuff

user30

hrmn.

user30

well, I think some Minecraft is in order.

When in doubt.

btw time.is

(It doesn't use your computer clock)

10:42 AM

MY CLOCK IS 0.5 SECONDS LATE ARE YOU KIDDING ME

I will kill this application's dick.

:/

@Mana No, it's not kidding you, it's killing you.

Just sync your clock with the internet

Warning, NSFW dialogue. (edited to a better clip)

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I can has the exact right time!

user30

@failbadp fail fonts

@ThomasMcDonald what?

user30

10:45 AM

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user30

mmm beautiful times new roman

I prefer my Helvetica-alike

thank you very much

with its right angled 1

LOOK AT THAT 1 AND AT ITS RIGHT ANGLE

IT MEANS BUSINESS.

user30

Ouch.

user30

I can't stop using Museo for everything at the moment

I've been using Ubuntu obsessively as well.

Now I'm back to defaulting everything to use FreeSans however.

user30

10:48 AM

I want to get Gotham though, just lotsa money.

Yeah, fonts aren't cheap

@Mana I like the trailer better

11:20 AM

wow, I just got an accept for a question I answered in July

Yo @Arda, I've heard you're leaving

Just wanted to say it's been nice to know you, you're great, have fun, goodbye!

(and if you ever come back, all you need is 20 rep to participate in chat :)

1 hour later…

12:50 PM

Anybody here?

Shh everyone's asleep, nap time

@Oak Now you woke me ;-)

Not my fault, I didn't @-anybody

Oh cool you're blue

Pro-temp on skeptics, I see

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Dropbox didnd't cooperate so imgur it is

Thoughts?

I think the line is kinda weak.

CEST is fail, the only option is UTC

1:01 PM

I used 7pm CET, now I must keep "7pm" or people will think the time has changed

I don't even know what CEST is, as far as I'm concerned it might be a name of a game :)

When the hell is CEST?

Right now

user30

Just put it in BST.

@Oak How many people will adjust the UTC offset for DST?

1:02 PM

@Oak moderation on skeptics is a bit more exciting than it proably is here on gaming

@Fabian As yesterday showed we get some action as well ;)

@Fabian frankly, a site for skeptics make me cringe. I participated in a political forum where we had a "skeptics" sub-forum, it was a cesspool of anti-semitic and 9/11 conspiracy shit

Then again, I had a quick look at skeptics.se and it looked okay

Just makes me wary

@Oak If we attract to many of those kinds of "skeptics" we fail, but it looks reasonable until now.

must... resist... must... not... make... bad... pun...

@failbadp I dunno... maybe I'm in the minority anyway, not to mention that my saturday's aren't free anyhow, apparently, so who am I to complain? Just saying that UTC is something which is internationally known, while I have no idea of what CET or CEST is without checking it

1:06 PM

@failbadp Are you skeptical again about our success? ;-)

@Fabian :)

Can we get the time in GMT +-1 whatever?

CET is GMT +1

but no one uses GMT now

and no one uses CET now either

Can we serve different ads based on geolocation?

technically now it's 14:07 CET, which is not what you're looking for, because it's 15:07 CEST

@Fabian We have a pinned message behind the jump that makes that geolocation-based conversion

in SE Game On!, Mar 14 at 20:07, by badp

See the start time in your own timezone. ~ Sign up for the events to get all kinds of reminders.

1:08 PM

@failbadp yes that message helps

Well, it is 15:07 here, so CEST is exactly my timezone

Even though technically it should be "get the start HOUR in your timezone"

Since it doesn't take date into consideration

ARGH, time.is adjusts timezone names to DST

That's going to confuse the heck out of people, or at least out of me

...because DST-adjusted timezones have different names

changes the link to convert to "19:00 in Paris"

user30

@failbadp I thought pretty much all timezones are still given relative to GMT.

@ThomasMcDonald Nope; that would be ~~your mother~~ UTC.

user30

1:13 PM

eg. CET (GMT+1)

user30

They are each and the same, though.

Oh, lord, timezone names on time.is are fucked up

@ThomasMcDonald Yes; still no one uses GMT currently

Just use UTC :)

Though apparently I'm also at 15:17

user30

Well, if I can't refer to it as GMT.

BTW, I've been organizing cross-continental events for a while now :)

user30

1:18 PM

I take your CET and refer to it as UTC+1.

This is probably my fourth year of experience

@ThomasMcDonald Yes, that's exactly the problem

UTC+1 is what Britain is using now

because Central Europe is now on UTC+2

@failbadp but have you tried UTC? What were the issues with it?

So if you saw the UTC time and wanted to convert to the time central europe will be using now, you'd convert incorrectly

@Oak With DST, the UTC time changes when the wall clock time doesn't; it's just confusing.

user30

I am aware we are using BST.

user30

I'm yet to see what the fuss is about, incidentally.

1:20 PM

@failbadp but the wall clock changes at different dates in different countries

"One week it's 1700 UTC, the other week it's 1600 UTC, and yet you always play at 7pm. WTF?"

@Oak Which is why I'm using an European timezone, as opposed to an American timezone, given that the event time is swinging back and forth syncing with EU DST

On my other community we swing back and forth with the US DST, so I always speak of "1500 NYT (New York Time)"

user30

So give the time in GMT/BST. Time should revolve around the UK, as we are in the center of it all.

to mean respectively 2000 GMT, then 1900 BST, then 2000 BST again, then 1900 BST some more, then finally back to 2000 GMT, while at the other side of the pond it's always 1500 E*T.

What's BST?

British Summer Time, UTC+1 (another name for CET)

user30

1:23 PM

British summer time.

The timezone the UK actually uses right now

At any rate I was asking for feedback about "Put your reputation where your mouse is"

Clever, though I liked the previous one more

anyway gtg

Later @Oak

user30

That's another thing I don't get

user30

UTC is an abbr. for Coordinated Universal Time.

1:25 PM

Yet another reason to use the CET instead hides

btw badp:

2

Q: Why do people play the same maps over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over again, and then some?

This has been bugging me for a while, but the characteristic sign of many successful FPS communities is their neverending loyalty to a very few maps (most of which shipped originally with the game). For iconic examples: Counter Strike: de_dust2 Quake 3/Live: Campgrounds Team Fortress 2: 2fort...

first-person-shooter online-multiplayer

Bad question is bad

bye!

:)

user30

oh, that's controversial.

@Oak I see your 6th vote to close and placed my 5th vote to reopen on it ;)

After reading it over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over again, and then some, the only thing that's kinda inflammatory in the question is the title.

user30

Wait, are there two lots of visit meta in the sidebar on question pages?

user30

And two lots of adverts? Or is it something I've done wrong.

1:27 PM

@ThomasMcDonald Apparently, @Gnome noticed it yesterday

user30

Also, have you seen the new linked accounts view?

Aye!

I kinda miss the view for different display names but oh well

user30

Hmm. I don't.

It helped when I wondered, "who is this Lord Tagamus thingadongdong again"?

"oh, right, Popular Demand"

0

Q: Sidebar modules duplicated

As you can see, the sidebar features Meta, then the ad, then the chat ad, then Meta again, then the ad again, then the chat ad again (which fails to load), then finally related questions (once): Props to GnomeSlice for noticing this first.

1:47 PM

1

Q: What is a "cheap win"?

In the player licence, there is a page with "Battle Data". It includes win rate, playtime, rank, etc. All of these are self-explanatory except for one category: "Cheap Wins". What are the criteria for a win to be labeled "cheap" within the game?

marvel-vs-capcom-3

2:33 PM

0

Q: Guitar Hero 5 - how to play career?

I'm new to this game, when I take practice I get normal game. However on career and quick play I get something .... I don't know how to call it even. there is no boxes that I should hit, there are those rainbow lines and I need to press how many buttons I want and hit the guitar non-stop to get ...

guitar-hero guitar

yet another game-rec

2:51 PM

What's with all the removed?

user30

@Macha I was asking how bob talked. I looked at the message history, and @failbadp had edited it.

Ah, okay.

Anyone got a good time-burner handy? I'm quite thoroughly bored, and Kongregate just doesn't have anything that's catching on for me.

@Iszi Spacechem demo

@failbadp link?

3:01 PM

@Iszi store.zachtronicsindustries.com/product/spacechem

@failbadp Looks interesting. Downloading.

Nice, I didn't know they also made Ruckingenur II

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1 hour later…

4:06 PM

0

Q: How to spec a Shaman for leveling and instancing in WoW?

I have a dilema - before starting a shaman I did some reading on what to spec it as, and most articles said to go for Enhancement, since that's the best for leveling - I did just that. Just the other day, I decided to go to my first instance (Deadmines), and I selected myself as healer (which ma...

world-of-warcraft shaman

@failbadp Having problems wrapping my head around world 2, level 1.

4:24 PM

@Iszi It's simple really, you need to execute bond+ twice

@failbadp I'm just trying to figure out how to route it with only one input.

If you want a longer answer you know where to ask :)

@Iszi Sync is your friend.

Remember you can put a red command and a blue command on the same tile

e.g. having a red GRAB and a blue GRAB on the same tile is perfectly legal

0

Q: how can you beat frank the zombie with an assassin in desktop dungeons?

I have been trying and trying and it seems that what makes this a hard thing to do is because there are two bosses. I have tried this with human assassin(to maximize damage) and have been using some mid-battle leveling. I beat the other boss(a lv 10 wraith) at level 8(or was it 7?) and the proble...

desktop-dungeons

@failbadp Hadn't used that yet, but I had figured that out. Thanks. I was also thinking about Sync. Maybe just need to ponder on it more.

Would be nice if there was just a "reset" button.

Instead of having to hit Undo all the way back to the start.

You can drag a selection around everything and hit Del

4:36 PM

Not quite "Reset" but I guess it works.

I think I might have figured a way of doing it without sync, and without putting red & blue on the same tile... firing test now.

Yup! It worked! Took a little longer to do than most, but came in on the low end of symbol usage.

Well, this is nice. Next level is exactly the same, but requiring a triple-bond.

user30

4:55 PM

oooh, spacechem?

5:19 PM

0

Q: Maximizing the 4 weeks of training before a fight

In the Legacy mode, how to efficiently use the 4 weeks of training before a fight? Is it better to start to start with Skills training or Athletics training? Is it OK to start the fight week without 100% stamina? I usually do one Skills training (removing 50% stamina) then two athletics traini...

fight-night-champion

@ThomasMcDonald Aye. Now I'm scratching my head a bit over Formaldehyde.

user30

Hmm. I just installed it on my desktop

user30

Can't remember how far along I got on my lappy.

Getting the Oxygen/Carbon double-bond is easy. But now I've gotta figure out how to get two Hydrogen atoms in there.

user30

Oh, I remember

user30

5:27 PM

I think

@iszi Remember Youtube is choke full of solutions

otherwise ask on the site :D

@failbadp Don't want solutions. Hints, maybe.

It's annoying as hell that, at this point in the game, you practically have to sync every reaction.

Yeah, just sync one waldo to run a cycle every other two cycles of the other waldo

user30

Ah yes

@failbadp Wait... whatz?

You can... do that?

user30

5:36 PM

If you put an additional sync in, I guess.

user30

If you sync it the first time round to add one of the hydrogens

user30

Send the upper input back round to get another hydrogen, and rotate in the bottom left so it lines up right.

user30

then bond again, as it passes upwards towards the top left

Ah, right.

Trick is to not set up a traffic jam.

What happens if one waldo tries to rotate a molecule while another waldo still has hold of it?

user30

fail.

5:42 PM

Real problem is we can't rotate in-place.

user30

Okay, did that in 1250 cycles.

user30

Just wait for the next one

user30

That's a pig.
And I can't remember how I did it.

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