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5:00 AM
about subtags, browsing etc.
@RavenDreamer already had 12 questions before today, FYI
 
@badp Because it's too generic a term.
or nothing. Just "" is unacceptable.
 
@RavenDreamer Can't say if trolling or serious
'weapons'?
 
'Oranges'?
 
Weapons stab oranges.
 
And people will tag non-tf2 questions with a tag that is just .
 
5:02 AM
So?
Isn't it the very same problem a tag would have?
Isn't the current consensus that prefixed tags are bad for the site?
 
@RavenDreamer If you'd never use the tag alone anyway, does it matter?
 
@badp AFAIK, weapons wasn't intended to be exclusive to TF2 weapons.
 
I have been arguing for prefixed tags
28 mins ago, by badp
@NickT While I agree with bringing spy to tf2-spy, that's not what the community wants
 
@Ullallulloo See Grace Note's "good generic vs. bad generic"
@badp You're a moderator. Our job is to say, "sorry community, but this is the better way to do this."
 
@RavenDreamer No, our job is to enforce the will of the community
 
5:04 AM
@RavenDreamer Link?
 
We can try to bend it our way but we can't force it.
 
5
Q: Avoid tags that mean different things in different games

OakWell this is actually a continuation of a rant I had back in July, but the content here is a little different and more specific, so please disregard the previous thread :) Many tags currently have different meaning in different games. I really think we should try and avoid using tags like these....

@badp Our will of the community is being blocked by Jeff.
 
Not my call
 
The response should not be "do things that further agitate Jeff"
 
2
A: Game-specific tags

Grace NoteEven if we limited ourselves to game-specific subtags, there will be intersections between certain subtags that could reasonably apply to other games. Meaningful subdivisions within a game will not always be limited to things that are unique to that game. For example, there are a lot of questions...

 
5:05 AM
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A: Avoid tags that mean different things in different games

Grace NoteThere's two different classes of these tags that we deal with. I believe we should pay heed to this, because I don't think it is remotely wise to avoid a tag just because its meaning varies between games. Take nothing of this to address fully game-specific tags where the tag represents something ...

GRACE NOTE QUOTE WAR!
 
Seriously though - I don't see why we should have but not and not
Since we're going for and , we should also have
 
@badp Because Zerg has no context outside of starcraft.
Zerg means "race of aliens". Always.
Spy could mean any number of things.
James Bond
Spy Vs. Spy
 
@RavenDreamer Starcraft 1
 
Weapons could mean any number of things too.
 
SpyCRABS
@badp We're not talking about weapons, are we?
 
5:07 AM
@RavenDreamer So now you're arguging for , are you not?
 
@badp I'm aruging that, if there is to be a tag at all, yes, is better than just .
 
I'm arguing for consistency with a decision I don't agree with
 
Also, if we make , would we make ?
 
Please stop trying to sell the decision I agree with to me because I already agree with it
You have the rest of the community to bring on our side
 
@badp Who?
Where is this become an issue?
 
5:09 AM
↑ see around these hits for context
 
@Ullallulloo Hence, if there is to be a tag at all, yes, tf-spy is better than just spy.
 
There's been quite a few discussions about this already
 
Skyrim weapons is a stupid tag.
 
The Grace Note post I linked before is the outcome.
 
Weapons in skyrim are equipment. So use that tag if you must.
 
5:10 AM
@RavenDreamer so...
still not
 
um... no?
would have to be different than
is always going to be "things that one can equip".
 
So what makes a bad tag because you can have spies in more than one game, but a good tag because you can have equipment in more than one game
 
I'm not saying it's a perfect tag, I'm saying it's a much better generic tag than "spy" or "medic.
@badp No. Spy is a bad tag because the definition of "spy" changes based on the game.
The definition of equipment is constant.
Some tags are context dependant.
 
@RavenDreamer Still, much of the content will not translate from game to game.
 
Those tags don't deserve to live without context.
 
5:12 AM
So, in practice, it is still meaningless by itself
 
would something like "classes" be more appropriate?
vs. spy
 
@IanPugsley I'd say yes, but Jeff'd nuke it just the same.
 
@IanPugsley Seems to me more like a meta tag.
 
Please let's not head towards a solution where half the tags are prefixed and half aren't, it's the only one I will not accept
I'd much rather not have my way all the time rather than half
 
@badp But tags aren't created equal. Taking an 'either or' stance suggests that all tags are equally valid, and they aren't.
 
5:15 AM
We're already talking about a subclass of tags, and not all tags.
and it's tags that are valid across multiple games
 
That's just it. One tag is valid across multiple games. Another isn't.
 
Is healing people in team fortress classic and battlefield 3 all that different? Run to a person, deploy health pack, run to the next
TF2 is just a bit fancier about it
 
@badp So call it "healing".
 
but at the end of the day the definition is constant
"character class that heals people"
 
@RavenDreamer I hope you're not thinking that that is a good tag
 
5:17 AM
@badp Except I can think off the top of my head at least 2 medics who can do anything but.
 
"healing" is a retarded tag
it's so functionally different across so many games the tag is pointless
 
@NickT That's kinda my point.
 
even within games it can change drastically; e.g. WoW, raid vs. pvp healing
 
so let's ban all non-game tags! WOOO
 
is "game-class" a game tag?
 
5:18 AM
Man, I keep racking my head for some good non-game tags
 
@badp i.e. tf2-fillintheblank
 
Yeah I think tf2-class is a good tag.
 
I could see how would be good for some mouse things
 
I hope you mean tf2-[class] as in tf2-spy tf2-medic etc. and not just tf2-class, which is pointless
 
@NickT at that point, why do when you could do ? [tf2-class] says absolutely nothing. The game is class based. EVERY question could be tagged with it.
 
5:19 AM
Questions about the classes? Which class should I use to do X?
 
@RavenDreamer that's what I meant
 
@RavenDreamer nonono, he meant
 
It's a totally different matter than "how should I play X class"
Again, I agree that [tf2-concept] is the way to go. But then I think [game-concept] is the way to go, and then suddenly everyone starts scoffing
 
probably because TF2 has a nice 3-letter-abbv. and when you get to other games it could explode and look messy
which is true
 
all of our big enough games have nice abbreviations
except for skyrim
 
5:21 AM
@badp I think that [game-concept] is the way to go. I'm just questioning your particular implementation.
@badp skrm
 
@RavenDreamer what's wrong with his implementation
 
skyrim is short enough that it doesn't matter
 
@NickT Context dependant tags.
 
so, while we're dealing with tags
 
@RavenDreamer is not what I want. is what I want.
 
5:22 AM
can we finally get around to this
 
but is what we have
 
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Q: The tag macro is ambiguous

CruelCowmacro is currently used for wildly different topics: Macro as used by (mostly) Starcraft2 questions (Examples: 1, 2) Macro as in scripting; (mostly World of Warcraft questions) I'd suggest creating a new tag scripting and changing the ones that refer to macro in the sense of scripting to it. ...

 
[game-concept] has to be distinct enough so that there's never any confusion.
 
and it'd be a bad idea to change just
 
otherwise, the tag's useless
 
5:23 AM
@badp if you change spy, I'll go add other tf2-class tags around
easy enough to go make a bunch for soldier and sniper
 
@NickT I'd already started getting tags out, regardless of the format
then Raven stopped me
 
@badp Because we don't have a clear plan to move forward.
 
Oh we do
and it's not the one we want
 
in the meanwhile I'd also remove all the , and tags from questions and fix them as necessary to or
 
Please post an answer on meta in support of [game-concept] then
the top answers, right now, are against that
 
5:26 AM
answer to what
 
@badp where?
 
4
Q: Game-specific tags

OakI've noticed some tags in used that are very specific to the game in question. For example, there's a civilization question which had the tags (among others) "worker" and "settler", and there are Starcraft 2 questions (1, 2) with tags such as "zerg" or "protoss". I'm strongly opposed to these ta...

or even
 
Oak's question from a year ago?
 
5
Q: Avoid tags that mean different things in different games

OakWell this is actually a continuation of a rant I had back in July, but the content here is a little different and more specific, so please disregard the previous thread :) Many tags currently have different meaning in different games. I really think we should try and avoid using tags like these....

 
There, beat dungeon 3. Seems like a good place to stop for now.
 
5:27 AM
Yeah, that's from over a year ago.
Be right back, poking at Jeff with a stick.
 
The answers are new, and the topic's been redigged recently
on the wake of Skyrim
3
Q: Tagging the Skyrim questions

FabianWe now got nearly 500 Skyrim questions in only a week, with this high number of questions it would be really useful to have some meaningful tagging on the questions. We haven't been very successful so far with establishing useful secondary tags on games, so before starting to retag all Skyrim qu...

 
@badp grace's post is on top and says is bad
 
Yeah, ffs, read the damn thing you're linking.
The thing is, the scope of the tag on both games is identical within the coverage of that game. They represent the same meaningful subcategory.
That can't be said of 'spy', or 'soldier', or 'engineer'.
 
That's not what she posted yesterday
 
@badp I'm quoting from what he said 8 hours ago.
 
5:31 AM
blech, I think my uptime is too high for this. I'll back down, disgusted, for a much needed rest
let's have it both ways, wee. :(
 
I think I shall too.
 
whatever.
 
@badp hugs
Tags are confusing man, it's important to separate yourself from the arguments and not take them too seriously.
 
@Mana It's the nature of the end result I don't like
 
Fair enough.
 
5:33 AM
where I first argue for something and I'm told I'm wrong and then I argue for the opposite and I'm told I'm wrong
 
it's because you're a flip-flopper
A "flip-flop" (used mostly in the United States), U-turn (used in the United Kingdom and the Republic of Ireland), or backflip (used in Australia and New Zealand) is a sudden real or apparent change of policy or opinion by a public official, sometimes while trying to claim that both positions are consistent with each other. Often it will occur during the period prior to or following an election in order to maximize the candidate's popularity. Although the terms are often used against elected officials, non-elected public officials can also be accused of flip-flopping. Ben Bernanke, chairma...
 
@NickT I have to follow what the community thinks
If the community flip-flops so must the mods
So, you are a flip-flop.
 
@badp No, no you don't. You have to be aware of what the community thinks. You're entitled to maintain your own opinion.
 
You the community or you directed at Nick T personally?
 
I still don't see what the difference is if they're different between games.
You're not going to be interested in all [tag:equipment] questions anyways.
 
5:35 AM
 
@Ullallulloo The thing is, the scope of the tag on both games is identical within the coverage of that game. They represent the same meaningful subcategory. - Grace Note
 
"Class whose major role is healing people"
"Class whose major role is taking care of constructions and buildings"
etc.
 
why should I have to view tags contextually
they're not supposed to be used that way
 
@RavenDreamer I still don't see why it would matter if in one game equipment was a class. What the tag means doesn't matter because you're not and can't use non-game tags like tags were designed for.
g2ge
 
@badp The problem is that you can't call that subgroup 'medic'. Not without confusing the living daylights outta folks.
 
5:38 AM
Why? It's what the class is named.
 
@badp what purpose is a tag for that
 
Just from WoW, "Druid", "Paladin", and "priest" would be equally valid nouns.
 
@NickT What purpose is the tag for
 
none, unless it's more specific
 
sorry, wrong example
 
5:39 AM
Or more general.
 
or viewed contextually, as people here love to do...but which is an abuse of the system
 
It's a very narrow band of non-cruft.
 
there isn't
who's weapons
 
Do you think there are no more specific characterizations of 'weapons'?
We still have such a tag
 
I've hated that tag for a long time
 
5:39 AM
and it's being defended on meta
 
where
 
and on chat
 
3
A: Game-specific tags

Grace NoteEven if we limited ourselves to game-specific subtags, there will be intersections between certain subtags that could reasonably apply to other games. Meaningful subdivisions within a game will not always be limited to things that are unique to that game. For example, there are a lot of questions...

 
here in this very room
@LessPop, @Ullallulloo, @FallenAngelEyes, etc.
 
people write too many walls of text on meta
 
5:40 AM
@NickT That's the point of meta, isn't it?
 
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@RavenDreamer no, the point is to make arguments, succinct arguments are better
not to be like, oh yea, look at me talk blahblahblahbalbha
 
@NickT Succinct doesn't imply short.
Some things just take longer to argue.
 
 
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7:04 AM
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god damn Congress
 
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11:50 AM
this should probably be closed due to localization, neh?
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Q: How does map in new Star Wars MMO compare with WoW and similar games?

Barry ParkerThere is a new Star Wars game in beta right now. I was wondering if anyone tell me how large it is map- wise and how it compares to other popular games?

TOR is still in beta, and while it's fairly likely they're not going to currently add new worlds at the moment with release a month away, this question's going to quickly become out of date
 
12:12 PM
 
hey all
@FallenAngelEyes It might be considered a recommendation too.
 
@RedriderX It's pretty much a disguised one, yeah.
 
yeah
by the way... is it just you and me in here?
 
Currently? Maybe. It's still early in the US. If you look at the gravatars on the right, the "brightness" corresponds to the user's last activity
Well, more accurately, opacity
 
@FallenAngelEyes well ya i know, and that's why i asked. Everyone else looks pretty fuzzy.
 
12:20 PM
Now I don't!
And anyways, it won't be "fuzzy"
 
Haha, heya @Yi
I accepted all your edits
 
@YiJiang Howdy!
 
Since that would imply some sort of blurring, which isn't happening here
 
Oooh, Steam tells me i just finished downloading the humble bundle :)
 
12:26 PM
Has anyone tried the tech demos?
Apologies if your not on windows, I'm so sorry :(
Umm... is it alright if i ask a random question?
 
@RedriderX If you don't mind us using a magic 8 ball for answers ...
 
Has anyone read Dune?
 
Isn't the book famous because almost no-one read it, and few understood what they read, but everyone watched the film to swoon over Sting?
 
@MartinSojka O, i was worried i was the only one who didn't read it.
@MartinSojka Well, is it any good?
I know it's supposed to be the "lord of the rings" of sci-fi, but does anyone like it?
 
12:43 PM
@RedriderX Hell if I knew. I just watched the movie. ;)
 
@MartinSojka oh, okay.
 
I'm not a big fan of huge long-winded books, with very few exceptions. Hell, even Barker's Imajica was a bit of too long-ish for my tastes, and that's "just" about 900 pages or so.
 
@MartinSojka well, long books are not to big a problem for me. but, I still got the audio book from the library.
it's like... 21 hours.
Anywho...
does anyone think humble bundle will tack any more games on to the current bundle?
 
12:58 PM
argh
this vehicle outside my room needs to go away
forever
 
@Mana I assume it woke you up and you've been driven mad?
 
@Mana or driving bugs you?
 
@Wipqozn Yes. It was making way too much noise for 6:00 AM in the morning.
No, it's not a normal car
it's doing something special
 
@Mana ...flying?...
 
@Mana If it helps, I don't live in the city, so it is always nice and quiet.
 
1:01 PM
drilling holes or something
 
@Mana The car???
 
@RedriderX well it's not a car
it's a thing
fuck if I know how to describe it. It looks like a crane thing.
 
@Mana say WHAT?
like this?
 
@Mana at 6 in the morning? I'm pretty sure there are by-laws against that sort of thing. Noise laws, et cetera
 
@Wipqozn well more like seven
 
1:03 PM
@Mana well at least it got you up early for Gaming SE Chat :)
 
It's making about as much noise as one of those large dump trucks would
 
@RedriderX This. Now we all get to see mana! Oh, wait... god dammit, we got to see mana :/
 
Okay, time for me to stop whining.
 
trying to be positive here
 
Speaking of whining.
 
1:04 PM
@Wipqozn What?
 
@Wipqozn Dreamhack is going on today. Excellent Starcraft tournament. Many big names.
Although I missed both of Thorzain's sets...:(
 
@Mana I can't watch it :/ way too much homework to do. I could probably watch some of it, but we both know that once you start... you can't stop
 
@Mana Oh, well i'm not up on MLG.
but it does sound cool
 
@RedriderX It's Starcraft II, of course it's cool.
 
@Wipqozn Got me there
got to go bye.
 
1:09 PM
@RedriderX good bye
So, @Mana, looks like it's just you and me now. the two Canadians.
The two shades cool Canadians.
Like, actually, it's freezing outside.
Get it? cool? cold? lolololololol
 
@Wipqozn Yeah...I'm gonna go take a shower.
 
Fin de semana sin gas natural (mc donalds y baños de agua fría me esperan)
:(
 
Actually I need to go prepare for a presentation.
@badp IT's a shame I neither read or spear Italian.
 
Luckily that's Spanish.
 
WHAT NOW WIPQOZN
YOU JUST GOT LANGUAGE'D.
 
1:14 PM
Oh snap, put me in my place!
I should probably just kill myself in shame.
 
Well, everybody should.
So don't feel too special or bad now.
 
@Wipqozn You have recognized who posted that right?
 
@Mana Especially you!
@badp I have, but I still don't understand it.
I forgot how old Juan was.
 
roughly "I'll have to spend the weekend without gas - McDonalds and cold water in the shower await me"
 
@badp well that's upsetting.
How many languages do you speak @badp?
 
1:17 PM
@badp Ooooh that sucks
 
@badp :(
 
@Wipqozn Spanish is not one of them
but it's still a latin language, so I can get there with some work. Yay latin.
 
I say that we should start up a Juan Appreciation Fund. Please deposit stars in support of this fund...here.
 
@badp Yeah, that's why I can pick out bits and pieces of Italian, as I took 6 and 7 years of Spanish and French, respectively
I can't speak it, but I can read some of it
 
I thought that he was saying it was the end of all gas everywhere at the end of this week and I was slightly alarmed.
 
1:19 PM
@badp Can you read and write English?
shades
 
@Wipqozn Barely
 
@Mana well, oil is a finite resource.
 
!
I got a card in the mail from the police station
they found my residency card!
 
Well that's just downright excellent.
Does that mean they won't kick you out of the country now?
 
I can pick it up tomorrow, woooo
Well it was stolen, along with my purse and a small bag of my things back in July
Someone stole my camera from my pocket at a concert. I had also put my coat check number in my camera bag.
Whomever stole my camera also went to coat check and claimed my stuff.
 
1:22 PM
Yeah, I remember you losing your camera.
ACtually I remember that entire incident now.
Glad to hear you got some of it back.
 
Yeah, that... sucked. So, still no camera or anything, but I'm glad to hear my residency card was found by someone.
I assume that someone must have just found it and turned it in at the police station, otherwise they would've called me rather than sending me something in the mail.
 
Perhaps it was the person who stole it. Got bored of it, et cetera
 
Yeah, I dunno
 
Either way, glad to here you found it.
Okay, I really need to go
not that I want to
you guys are just so cool, I never want to leave!
 
@FallenAngelEyes :/
 
1:26 PM
@badp Yeah, it was an overall sucky situation. I kinda started crying at the coat check.
 
@FallenAngelEyes Holy crap that sucks.
 
also, again, I feel this one's too localized:
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Q: How does map in new Star Wars MMO compare with WoW and similar games?

Barry ParkerThere is a new Star Wars game in beta right now. I was wondering if anyone tell me how large it is map- wise and how it compares to other popular games?

TOR's still in beta even
 
happy thanksgiving, if the country you are in supports such things and you are sufficiently interested in celebrating. Otherwise, "yay Thursday" I guess?
 
@agent86 Oh yeah that's today. Happy thanksgiving!
I tend to forget about the big US holidays when I'm not seeing commercials for them every 5 minutes
 
@FallenAngelEyes uh... thanks
I guess that brings us to the conclusion of the thanks-giving celebration
</bad-pun-of-the-day>
 
1:37 PM
Is that what the P in your name stands for?
 
@badp woooo
I'm going to get loaded up on turkey today!
 
@agent86 I feel compelled to point out that it is only thanksgiving in the United States right now, but other countries have thanksgiving, just at different dates.
 
and deal with relatives!
 
@FallenAngelEyes feel free to backronym it, I don't really have anything behind it
 
@Wipqozn Thus my ambiguous statements.
 
1:39 PM
My statement is due my taking issue with you ", if the country you are in supports such things", sounds to me as if you think all thanksgiving holidays around the world take place on the same day
 
@badp maybe it should be Peer, as that's what you're doing in your gravatar
 
Either way, I need to stop being arda and get to work.
Good bye all
 
@Wipqozn Issue noted and promptly discarded.
norepo.
 
@agent86 But I like REPO! It's a fun movie.
</making fun of typos>
@MartinSojka Imajica was a pretty amazing book though
 
Oh I see what they're doing
they're paving the road outside my building
 
1:56 PM
@Mana with good intentions?
 
@badp Dude, Mana lives in Hell? I'm totally visiting him next time I'm in Canada.
 
It's canadian hell, so they limit themselves to poking people around on Facebook continuously
 
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Q: How do I find Frost the Horse if he runs away during "Promises to Keep"?

mattHow do I find Frost the Horse if he runs away during the quest "Promises to Keep"? I got attacked while riding Frost, dismounted to fight, and then the horse ran away. Now I can't complete the quest. Is there any way to restart the quest or find Frost again?

 

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