@BobCross Cool! Seems like you can surf in Rhode Island, though the waters are probably really really cold :p

For @HandyHowie:

A more restricted air intake will result in a lower mean effective pressure

If we look at the graph on Wikipedia this corresponds to a higher fuel consumption for any given RPM

I agree with that you cannot have different pressures for the same load on the same engine, so something has to change since both load and RPM are fixed.

To me, the load deficit is made up by opening the throttle plate more on the setup with the more restrictive intake.

The mental picture I have so far is of two otherwise-identical motorcycles, both traveling at 50 km/h, engines idling at the same RPM, but one with the throttle plate more open than the other

In my mind that should translates to a difference in volumetric efficiency between the two engines, where the engine with the more open throttle plate has to have a higher volumetric efficiency. This is where the increase in fuel consumption comes from.

^ That's so awesome

@HandyHowie I didn't refer to throttle plate anywhere in my answer, so I guess this was in reference to my comment on the question. I wanted the OP to clarify how they were planning to restrict the intake because if they limit top speed electronically then they don't affect the performance characteristics of the engine in the same way. It's just an electronic nanny that will intervene when the specified limit has been reached

@IanC The water is only cold in Rhode Island if you're a big baby. ;-) Seriously, though, I'll be running a test down by the waterfront in December and I plan to bundle the hell up.

@IanC That video is such a good example of how you can do anything if you have the right tools!

@Zaid The graph is showing the efficiency of a single engine based on load and revs, that is all as far as I can see. If you can drive the engine with the optimum load and revs, you will get optimum fuel efficiency. Adjusting the throttle position will increase/decrease load and eventually revs.

@Zaid The original question was only about adding an additional air restriction which would be just the same as closing the throttle a little, so limiting max throttle. In all cases the ECU would read the current air flow and adjust fuel accordingly, not making it rich.

@HandyHowie I think you are right... even VE has to stay the same

@BobCross I'd probably be called a big baby there, I feel cold surfing the winters here which are not at all close to winters there, probably because I'm a bit skinny, not much natural body heat isolant haha

@BobCross I really appreciate seeing some good restoration, specially considering how our current culture makes people think of things as disposable

I wish I had lots of tools, there wouldn't be a week without a garage project haha

It kinda inspires even more to make plans and working in the car

@Pᴀᴜʟsᴛᴇʀ2 - did you get your cheesemail? :-)

@IanC surfing the west coast of Orkney in the winter (at 59deg North) was always fun, as the water is warm there due to the North Atlantic Drift part of the Gulf Stream hitting us. Can surf even while it's snowing

@RoryAlsop - Yessir! I've even sent in my specs ... and ... in another 6-8 weeks ... argh. :o)

@Pᴀᴜʟsᴛᴇʀ2 lol

remember to keep an eye on meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/tagged/10th-anniversary

@RoryAlsop - How are things?

there will be more - Tim Post said it would be slower than they hoped, but still more

things are good

looking forward to Christmas holiday now (I haven't managed to get less busy ... in fact I'm increasing my unpaid workload a lot)

@RoryAlsop - Which is why it probably took ~2 weeks for them to get out the Cheesy goodness.

but I'm happy I have a tan from a week in Tenerife

@Pᴀᴜʟsᴛᴇʀ2 yarr

@RoryAlsop - I didn't think you fine folks from Scotland actually tanned? Or is the the Irish? ;-)

@Pᴀᴜʟsᴛᴇʀ2 I'm half Australian (genetically)

@RoryAlsop - Aaaaaahhhhh ... that explains a few things.

The way I tan, I wouldn't be surprised if I have some African blood in me somewhere! :o)

@RoryAlsop - It's funny that my Mom got a genetic test done and didn't share with us her background ... I wonder what's lurking which she doesn't want to share! :o)

@Pᴀᴜʟsᴛᴇʀ2 oooo - intriguing

@RoryAlsop - One thing did come out of it, though ... she found out she had a 1/2 sister she never knew about. They have since started up a relationship. Pretty kewl.

@Pᴀᴜʟsᴛᴇʀ2 that's pretty amazing to discover.

@RoryAlsop - I'd like to meet her sometime ... Finding out I had an aunt who I never knew about. Which reminds me ... I should get her address and send her a Christmas card. Hopefully she'd appreciate it.

She does live in California, though, which is about 3k miles away. Not something you just do on a lark, lol.

@RoryAlsop - Have you heard about any of the upcoming ... er ... rituals which might be forthcoming?

I've just discovered "LeVar Burton Reads." It's awesome.

@3Dave - Really? You just discovered that? Holy crud, what rock have you been living under?? ;-)

Apparently a very large one.

@3Dave - His readings are awesome.

Pretty much anything Geordi does is awesome.

There you go :)

@RoryAlsop - Is it your Mum or your Dad which is from Australia?

@RoryAlsop you surf there? Found some pictures of the waves there, very cool, many barreling! If the water gets reasobably warm the winds probably still punish a bit. Good thing is that there probably isn't much crowding :)

@IanC Yes - the Bay of Skaill. Two point breaks and a beach break

This is a pretty kewl process. Can't wait for 3b :o)

wow - that is pretty cool

@RoryAlsop - I've always been interested in foundry work ... what this guy is going through to make good pistons is awesome, lol!

@Pᴀᴜʟsᴛᴇʀ2 I know. I have kept some silver from ages ago, that I want to cast into a bracelet for my wife, but it turns out silver is annoyingly difficult to cast

@RoryAlsop - Isn't that just the way of it!! :o)

@Pᴀᴜʟsᴛᴇʀ2 rituals?

@Pᴀᴜʟsᴛᴇʀ2 mum - from western Australia

@RoryAlsop - Just whatever contests or what have you they are planning (like the cheesy contest).

@RoryAlsop - Awesome. I'd love to go to the Land Downunder.

@Pᴀᴜʟsᴛᴇʀ2 oh - sorry, I got to your comment late and couldn't figure out context. Tim said they would do more, but not as frequently as they had hoped (they were planning every week)

so I'm just going to watch that tag

@RoryAlsop - That's kewl

I did read the thread where Tim posts in

About the upcoming. Still don't know what to think of the cheese board, but it's a great gesture!

@Pᴀᴜʟsᴛᴇʀ2 Cheese is my favourite food so it's perfect for me

Yup!

I think my wife loves cheese ... but we'll see. There are only certain types of cheese I like, mostly the milder stuff.

Though give me some colby jack, lol

@Pᴀᴜʟsᴛᴇʀ2 Ahh - I prefer the most mature cheddars, port salut, camembert, etc, but also love a double gloucester, red leicester, philly, hell - anything

@RoryAlsop - But American, I hope, lol!

@RoryAlsop Nice! Didn't know there was a fellow surfer in the chatroom :)

Hopefully I'll be able to go get some waves tomorrow, hoping the swell doesn't fade just yet