The Periodic Table

user161117

2:05 AM

@pH13 That Computational Organic chemistry book is awesome thanks for suggesting it

pH13

@StevenGrigsby which one?

ah ... bachrach

user161117

Steven B

user161117

Yeah

pH13

there is a fancy blog too

wait for it

user161117

Yeah I was reading his blog

pH13

2:06 AM

ok :D

user161117

it's super nice I like how he encourages discussion

pH13

you should also consider reading henry rzepa's blog

user161117

so far I sorta chugged through chapter 1, this is the first time I've heard anyone explain these 6-13G or whatever basis sets

user161117

so I am already digging it

user161117

Ok I'll check out Henry's blog too

pH13

2:08 AM

do you have the 2nd ed?

user161117

Yeah I believe so

user161117

Yeah I do

pH13

ok

good

user161117

would you happen to know if there are any websites with databases of spectral lines?

pH13

don't think so

Martin - マーチン

6:56 AM

Look who gave us a hug!

getafix

8:26 AM

Hullo! How's everyone..been a while.

user161117

4:00 PM

sup

pH13

4:13 PM

sub

user161117

I think I've accepted that QM makes no sense and now it makes sense in the sense that I can move forward with the results and stop fighting

user161117

I mean what do you think about QM like

user161117

does everyone just go through this haha

user161117

like giving up in trying to fight it

pH13

why do you think it makes no sense?

user161117

4:27 PM

the idea of where a particle can be interacts with itself but if you observe it, it stays in one state

pH13

hehe

@bon thank you for adding the link on the meta thread to the actual thread on main site

bon

@pH13 No worries

pH13

@StevenGrigsby "If you think you understand quantum mechanics, you don't understand quantum mechanics." Feynman, Bohr

2

user161117

Yeah I mean I'm not sure in what sense this is meant

user161117

I mean I don't understand gravity either

user161117

4:30 PM

but physics is pretty good at describing it apparently

user161117

I mean it's like the ultimate "I'm conscious but everyone else is a robot" but it's towards reality and everything in it I mean

user161117

I can't even "think therefore I am" my way outta this, it's like shit, I mean I am probably not even real whatever

pH13

I think, that all the aha effects will come with time and use

user161117

it's the only reason that everything I google can come up with such a good answer, must be because this is fake

pH13

so I keep doing what I'm doing and hope the best

user161117

4:32 PM

yeah

user161117

I keep thinking back to what it was like thinking "imaginary numbers" were 'fake' numbers

pH13

:)

there is a video from numberphile on youtube, that I watched recently ... it's about multiple infinities etc ... that's full of "wtf?"

but I guess, math-magicians need sth to do

user161117

lol

user161117

can't most children think that up

user161117

I guess people don't pay children to think up ridiculous ideas though

pH13

4:45 PM

^^

think about it, or no pocket money!!! ಠ_ಠ

user161117

lol

user161117

ok ok I have come up with an original (as far as I know) interpretation of QM rofl

user161117

it's super bogus

user161117

electrons don't care about time so even when you shoot them out at separate times, their paths all overlap in space so they can still interact completely disrespecting time

user161117

are there any logical consequences I can back out of this idea to prove it wron

user161117

4:49 PM

Also I really dig this Henry Rzepa blog

Stack Exchange

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Q: "Cite" link in Chem.SE?

"Cite" link was neatly added to Physics.SE (see relevant posts in their meta: 1, 2, 3; 4). Shouldn't we have it too?

feature-request

pH13

@StevenGrigsby that's also a great blog, I think

user161117

I think you suggested it to me idk

pH13

I know

user161117

basically it looks like he's doing the kinda cool stuff like looking into understanding some weird organic mechanisms

pH13

4:59 PM

yesterday

user161117

oh I thought you were saying "I think" like you have never seen it before

pH13

@Todd !!!!!!111!!!11eleven

user161117

lol

pH13

@StevenGrigsby that should mean sth like "imo"

I have to learn/train proper english ... ಠ_ಠ

user161117

lol

user161117

5:00 PM

well it's obviously a great blog so

pH13

@Todd I need a hero!

@Todd I’m holding out for a hero ‘til the end of the night

o/ @CaelanO'Toole

@StevenGrigsby it strongly depends ^^ my organic chemistry/chemical biology friend does not think so ;)

user161117

hahaha damn they should invent a new ending mark to denote sarcasm

user161117

? and ! just aren't cutting it

user161117

most questions are obvious anywaysd

user161117

pH13

5:06 PM

^^

user161117

ok so like how important are hermite and bessel and all those orthogonal polynomials

pH13

ACTELEC sounds like aztec god but is just the variable for the active electrons ...

@StevenGrigsby quite important

user161117

Let's just say I'm not LUMOsexual

pH13

xD

Caelan O'Toole

There is a punctuation mark for sarcasm.

wikiwand.com/en/Irony_punctuation

⸮

user161117

5:09 PM

thanks⸮

user161117

I'm not used to this

user161117

that's not sarcastic or ironic hmm

pH13

do you actually see sth different than a square?

user161117

yeah we do

user161117

it's a backwards questionmark

user161117

5:10 PM

like not in the mexican sense⸮

pH13

hm

then my chrome does not like it

user161117

my ubuntu chrome actually doesn't suck for once

user161117

I just need to continually observe my computer so that it remains in this state since it collapsed

pH13

I need someone to help me get luscus installed on my lubuntu vm

Caelan O'Toole

Luckily I have a chromebook, saves me the trouble of being greeted by the horrifying monster: Internet Explorer.

pH13

5:13 PM

but @Todd needs to earn money by ~~drinking coffee~~ working ಠ_ಠ

Caelan O'Toole

Never even heard of Ubuntu before.

pH13

that's a quite common linux distribution

maybe mostly for beginner ... I don't know

Caelan O'Toole

I see why, it looks quite ugly.

I much prefer BackRub.

pH13

I use Lubuntu as it does not look so fancy ... I need a working system, no fancy looking whatever

the eaerlier ubuntu version did use gnome ... they were better. now, there is a separate distribution for gnome-ubuntu, because many people did not like the new design xD

user161117

Ubuntu Causes Girl To Drop Out of College

►

duzzy

5:18 PM

Unity = yucky.

user161117

watch out ppl

pH13

lol

user161117

5:47 PM

anyone here use/know what spinors are

pH13

you know what a tensor is?

user161117

Yeah

pH13

a spinor is a tensor with/for spins ... or at least sth like that

don't remeber closely

user161117

Is it related to the Levi-Civitta tensor or anything normal or

user161117

is it not a tensor itself

user161117

5:49 PM

like I say that cause I am thinking cross products and angular momentum

user161117

or w/e I guess if you don't remember closely I should probably just try google lol

pH13

Spin + Tensor = Spinor ... at least I'm sure about that

user161117

Spin^i Tensor_i = Spinor :P

Todd Minehardt

hi @pH13 + all

pH13

@StevenGrigsby I was talking about the word itself

@ToddMinehardt o/ o/ o/ o/

user161117

5:52 PM

I mean I was just making a joke too

pH13

make your joke-square ლ(ಠ益ಠლ)

@Todd I need URGENT HALP with installing luscus ... I'm way to stupid

Todd Minehardt

what's luscus?

pH13

some orbital visualisation resp. i/o program for molcas

Todd Minehardt

found it, yeah

pH13

I got the linux files from sourceforge

and extracted them, as they say

user161117

5:54 PM

crap [ ]

Todd Minehardt

the tar.gz file?

user161117

is that good enuf

pH13

@StevenGrigsby purrfect

@ToddMinehardt yes

Todd Minehardt

should be cd to src and type make

pH13

eh

is there sth like remote machine stuff on linux?

I extracted everything in a folder called (very creative) "luscus_0.8.1"

Todd Minehardt

5:57 PM

ok, cd into that directory then cd into src

pH13

there is no src

Todd Minehardt

you on a linux box?

what's in luscus_0.8.1?

pH13

wait

Todd Minehardt

i went here - molcas.org/LUSCUS

clicked on Source Code

pH13

sourceforge.net/projects/luscus

Todd Minehardt

5:58 PM

did:

pH13

ok ... I'll do what you do now

Todd Minehardt

tar xvfz luscus_0.8.0.tar.gz
cd luscus_0.8.0/src
make

yeah try that - you might have some packages that need to be installed (i did), like libgtkglext1

pH13

what is in the src folder in the 0.8.0 version, is in the "normal" luscus folder in 0.8.1

Todd Minehardt

ah, ok - but there is a Makefile, right?

pH13

there is

Todd Minehardt

6:02 PM

so if you type make and hit return, in that directory, what do you get?

pH13

errors ... I might missing some packages ... thought I installed them

Todd Minehardt

sudo apt-get install libgtkglext1 libgtkglext1-dev

you'll need those for sure

pH13

this does not work

but I have no idea on how to translate that error xD

why did I choose german as language ... gr

ლ(ಠ益ಠლ)

Todd Minehardt

yeah i'm having problems too - something with the plugins directory

pH13

it's sth about /var/lib/dpkg/lock

the resource is temporarily not available ... or sth like that

Todd Minehardt

6:10 PM

do you have synaptic or the ubuntu software center thing open?

user161117

where do I go answer peoples questions about metaphysics like the heisenburg exclusion law and pauli certainty principle and stuff

pH13

synaptic was it -.-

@StevenGrigsby not physics.se ?

@Todd it really was only the synaptic thing ლ(ಠ益ಠლ)

user161117

yeah but I mean like I wanna help the chemists tell them about the photon electro effect and the Heat-Kinetic energy function of metals

user161117

gotta make sure they get the best about how orbits of electrans

user161117

like what if the electron has a moon around it

pH13

6:13 PM

@StevenGrigsby that would be chemistry-in-fiction

user161117

[ ]

pH13

[ ]

Todd Minehardt

@pH13 - cool. close that (or install the missing libs) and give it another try

i will say, it's spinning on me, compiling but doing something weird with the plugins

pH13

I could open it

now I need to crate some ipnut files

and then I will see if it works

Todd Minehardt

hey cool -

pH13

6:21 PM

todd-super-hero

Todd Minehardt

glad to hear you got it working :)

pH13

6:41 PM

$\Huge ♥$

@Loong ... that was no dating message

ಠ_ಠ

Loong

@pH13 why not?

pH13

because this is not a dating site

Loong

@pH13 I knew it!

pH13

fününününününü ... if you know, what I mean ;D

user161117

hey bb

pH13

6:47 PM

pay attention, @Loong has eyes like gimlets if it comes to dating stuff

user161117

Gimlet (cocktail)

The gimlet is a cocktail made of gin and lime juice. A 1928 description of the drink was: "gin, a spot of lime, and soda." The description in the 1953 Raymond Chandler novel The Long Goodbye stated that "a real gimlet is half gin and half Rose's lime juice and nothing else". A variant of the cocktail, the vodka gimlet, replaces gin with vodka. A very similar cocktail using rum instead of vodka or gin—as well as fresh lime juice—is the daiquiri. == PreparationEdit == David A. Embury gave a gimlet recipe (called a Gin Sour) in The Fine Art of Mixing Drinks (3rd Ed., 1958), calling for an 8:...

user161117

@Loong want me to buy you a drink bb ;)

Loong

puts finger on the suspension trigger

pH13

@StevenGrigsby y u no listen? ლ(ಠ益ಠლ)

user161117

lol

user161117

6:51 PM

you said s/he likes gimlets!

pH13

"to have eyes like gimlets" should be an idiom ...

maybe I was using it wrong or you forgot the [ ] !!!

user161117

hmmm

user161117

Nothing tastier than a rutherford's plum atom I always say

pH13

many new programs today ... faaaaancy

first calculations with nwchem and maybe later on amber :D

user161117

Oh I've heard of amber tell me how that goes

user161117

7:03 PM

I heard that's kind of old or used for proteins or something

pH13

I am installing it right now

yeah, protein stuff

user161117

uses some furby force field or something lol

pH13

yes, force field

the force is strong in amber

user161117

lol

user161117

use the force @pH13

pH13

7:06 PM

I hope I will

user161117

be gentle

Loong

@pH13 Another comparison of Imgur and HTML:

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A: Formatting Sandbox—please test stuff here

Hazard pictograms a) Each image is resized to ‘small thumbnail’ (160 × 160) by appending the single character suffix ‘t’ to the end of the image id, and before the file extension. b) Each image is resized to 160 × 160 using HTML. (To better see the difference, use the zoo...

In addition to the known limitations, rescaling by Imgur also introduces obvious jpeg artifacts. :-(

pH13

jpeg introduces jpeg artifacts

Loong

@pH13 the original is a clean gif

pH13

ok

I tend to use png over jpeg for quite a while

user161117

7:13 PM

Can I think of H2O(l)->H2O(g) having rate constant K=[H2O(g)] and that is all I need to justify that for bottles of different volume of liquid in them having the same vapor pressure?

pH13

first think, then ask

as it is unclear what you are asking, this question might get closed

[ ]

user161117

rofl

user161117

phew

user161117

glad I didn't ask it

user161117

Can I consider [ ] to be the concentration of neutrons?

user161117

7:26 PM

if we put neutrons on the periodic table with an atomic number of 0 would we then have to put a mass number of the weight of all the isotopes of vacuum

Loong

@StevenGrigsby The vapor pressure describes the equilibrium state. To describe the equilibrium, you also need the reverse reaction (g) -> (l)

user161117

won't that just be 1/K

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

I can consider [ ] to be two brackets.

Jeez something's wrong with @Sant. Maybe he's having problems IRL.

Todd Minehardt

7:47 PM

hi @inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

Hi!

santiago

8:12 PM

yes, @inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M as I have mentioned several times, just found out about a very serious health issue - it is going to be a hell of a battle to even to survive. As such, I need to be in consistently supportive environments.

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

@santiago Then internet is not the place for you right now.

However friendly we try to be, we're still internet people from around the globe.

pH13

8:49 PM

@Martin-マーチン catches the early bird

Stack Exchange

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Q: What is the 'periodic table' tag for?

What is periodic-table intended for? The tag wiki excerpt is not very helpful as it just describes what the periodic table is. I consistently find myself retagging periodic-table questions with periodic-trends which is usually a more appropriate tag (example here) although a sizeable number of qu...

discussion tags

santiago

11:03 PM

@inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M The internet is fine - it is this place (Stack Exchange) that is not very supportive (or even understanding as I have found here).

Goodbye

Mithoron

11:22 PM

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Q: Chemicals that Can Sterilize Males

Is there any known substance that can sterilize a male? Less specifically what about one time chemical castrations(ignoring a perfect sterilization)? I heard about them before once but wasn't sure really.

chemical-biology structural-biology

Could someone find a nice reason to close it ;)

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