The Water Cooler

enderland

2:17 PM

I wish you could bounty good questinos

enderland

2:30 PM

@Rachel I've always liked the appearance of a table for stuff like that

Much better space utilization and aesthetically more pleasing

Rachel

2:44 PM

@enderland That's the way I'm leaning too, but the spacing on tables in Google Docs has made me realize this may not be the easiest thing to read

Would we be able to get this question reopened?

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Q: Should I list skills that I am familiar with in my Resume?

Possible Duplicate: As a student, how should programming language familiarity be described on a CV/Resume I have just finished my Advanced Diploma in Computing, and I am currently looking for a job as a junior .NET Developer. There are few Languages/Technologies that I’ve used in real...

resume

enderland

@Rachel make your resume in latex! :P

if I have to remake one, I'm abso-freaking-lutely doing a Latex resume

Rachel

The answers on the linked duplicate only appear to address the question as it applies to students or entry-level candidates

@enderland What's a Latex resume?

enderland

err, latex is a... more or less compiled document language

latex-project.org

Rachel

@enderland too much work right now :p

but I'll still look into it :)

I got laid off on Tuesday due to a massive company downsizing, so now I need to find a new job :(

enderland

oooh :\

I wrote my thesis in latex

the problems there were a million times more fun than fighting word

since it's like programming!

:)

@Rachel that's gotta suck though, unless you didn't enjoy your job I gues...

Rachel

2:48 PM

Yeah, I'm trying to update my old word doc resume right now so I can send it out to a few places, but I'd be interested in checking out Latex later

@enderland haha funny thing is, I've been considering quitting for a few months now, and only haven't because it was a good job and I thought they'd have major problems without me :)

enderland

@Rachel Hahaha so blessing in disguise!

Rachel

(Also, they contacted me the day after I was laid off to see what my rate would be for contract work)

@enderland Yeah, it was kind of abrupt and unexpected, however at the same time it's exciting to have so many opportunities suddenly present :)

enderland

@Rachel LOL.

you should respond back like 3x your salary

I kinda feel similarly, though I enjoy my job - if I got laid off I would be like, "ok, well now I can explore the world!"

Rachel

@enderland haha I did, I sent them back a rate that was about 2-2.5x my hourly salary

figured if it's not regular work and I'm not getting benefits, the price would be higher :)

RhysW

@enderland my jobs awesome, either that, or im really naive :P

enderland

2:52 PM

@Rachel there are quite a few people here who have retired, then immediately come back as contract

full pension + contract lol

Rachel

@enderland I'm not that old yet :p only 27

enderland

@Rachel :)

all us young'ins

RhysW

i havent even hit the 20's yet...

Rachel

>.< the downsides of working at home... sitting around in my underwear writing my resume with the front door open for the cats to go on the porch, and some dude comes knocking on the (open) front door.... (ps, can't get to my clothes without passing the open front door)

"Uhhhhh nobody home!"

RhysW

@Rachel haha, ive been there, awkward moments always leads to funny stories though!

enderland

2:56 PM

probably a little more awkward for a woman than a guy though lol

Rachel

Well that was a totally unprofessional glimpse of my life... pretend I didn't say that :)

RhysW

@enderland i dunno, was next door neighbours daughter, i would say that atleast bring it up to par as the chances of meeting them agin are pretty high!

enderland

hmmm. I guess... lol. :)

RhysW

@Rachel hah, those glimpses are what this chat room is for is it not? :P

enderland

that would be the basis for a really funny question.... lol

Rachel

2:59 PM

Hey you have to be careful what you put on the web. Never know who might see it :)

RhysW

@enderland whats that?

enderland

@RhysW this whole conversation lol

@Rachel indeed! my nick is associated enough with "me" at least

Rachel

@enderland Yeah, that's my name and photo up there :)

But about this question:

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Q: Should I list skills that I am familiar with in my Resume?

Possible Duplicate: As a student, how should programming language familiarity be described on a CV/Resume I have just finished my Advanced Diploma in Computing, and I am currently looking for a job as a junior .NET Developer. There are few Languages/Technologies that I’ve used in real...

resume

RhysW

@Rachel yeah thats why i had a username change, which seems t have reverted ¬_¬

Rachel

Can we get it reopened so it can get an answer that doesn't apply to students and entry level jobs?

enderland

3:00 PM

I should change my profile picture, hahahahahahahahhahahhaha

RhysW

@enderland wait you mean that isnt a pic of you?! ive been misled :(

Rachel

@RhysW Oh yeah, you used to be SpikyBlue or something

RhysW

@Rachel thats the one, then one day it randomly reverted and wont let me change it from this :/

Rachel

Would you include design patterns you are familiar with on your resume, and if so where? (and would that be a good question for the site? It's rather specific to the software industry)

Same question for software tools (Visual Studio, SQL Server Management Studio and Profiler, Office products (listed because I've used the "Developer" tab in both Word and Excel to make some fancy reports or macros), Crystal Reports, etc

enderland

3:38 PM

I'm not sure on those, stuff like that always bothers me -- how do you include the "I know what I'm talking about" information on a resume (you can normally communicate this very clearly in an interview)

Rachel

Meh I don't see a bunch of these questions on the site, and think they're ones that probably come up often, so will be adding a few :)

enderland

dangit, I want to (and normally have) a policy of "no agenda I don't go to meetings" or at least request an agenda - but an intern just scheduled one, and I'm torn how I shoudl respond :P

Shane

3:58 PM

Anyone have a suggestion for looking for employment in a country from a distance (I don't even know anyone in the country, and some web sites I checked looked sad). And, HI!

enderland

@Shane from where to where?

Shane

I am Canadian, dreaming of working in Spain. I would need to learn Spanish too.

enderland

Hmm. that was not a combination I was expecting :)

Shane

Out of curiosity, what were you expecting?

enderland

We've had a few questions on and off about this, but mainly either to the USA or from the USA to europe

RhysW

4:13 PM

@Shane doing what kind of job?

Shane

I have taught swimming, English, worked in restaurants, had my own roofing business, translation, tour guide, etc. You might say I am open.

RhysW

just as long as its in spain youre happy?

i have a site suggestion for you then

lets you specify job sector, english or spanish speaking region of spain, full time or part time ect

then lists the jobs

thinkspain.com/services/joboffers/resultbuscador.asp

even lets you pick your fluency in the given languages

Shane

Thank you, looks interesting.

RhysW

no worries, hope its helpful

Shane

I am wanting to learn Spanish, but am not interested in Mexico or SA. I would like to do it in Spain. I like the idea of being on the Continent too for when the travel bug hits.

Shane

4:47 PM

Adios

Chad

6:53 PM

@enderland "Pay attention you stoopeed noob! No agenda No attenda! Capece?"

enderland

7:17 PM

@Chad heh not so much ;)

jmac

11:25 PM

I strongly want to edit the following question aggressively, but it already has an answer. Should I refrain?

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Q: How to ask for support?

I'm a working student in a software department and currently working on a project, which was a final paper from another student. The given requirements for further development are hard for me to implement because of poor documentation and code. Furthermore the student, who worked this out, isn't ...

professionalism etiquette

@enderland That's actually regular practice in Japan. Retirement age is 60, and employees will get their pension (lump-sum here) and be hired back as advisers. It's an odd system, since they receive something like 1/3rd of their pre-retirement pay when they come back (though the amount of work they are expected to do is far less. Or zero. Or less than zero.)

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