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12:47 AM
@Kaz enderland twitches
 
1:11 AM
heya
 
 
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4:03 AM
@DoritoStyle Troll is now defined as any person that the author doesn't agree with. ;-)
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9 hours later…
1:28 PM
@MaskedMan I liked it when troll used to mean "posting to get a reaction".
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1:40 PM
Wow, I have never seen a wider gap between the top and second rated answer.
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A: How do I know I'm not unknowingly messing up my software apprenticeship?

Richard UThe first sign that you're not is the fact that you're concerned that you might be. Give me someone who's a little insecure over a know-it-all any day. It means you're going to ask questions, double check things, ask for opinions, and look for ways to improve. Another sign is that you're not...

I don't think I'm that sagacious in this one, and the other answers aren't bad. shouldn't the spread be a bit more narrow?
 
Kaz
@RichardU #BlameHNQ
 
@Kaz LOL! But why the spread. I mean shouldn't the other answers be at least 50+
 
Kaz
@RichardU Eh. People come in with only so much attention. They read the question, they read the first answer. If the first answer is any good, a lot of them won't bother reading any further.
It is what it is. I try not to let my posts be optimised towards gaining rep, because the incentives skew things enormously.
 
 
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3:03 PM
@RichardU internal cringe
I imagine some potential employer looking at my SE profile to find ... me being a whiny insecure sod ...
rip
 
@Magisch nah, being a hotshot is FAR more of disincentive to hire someone. You come across as someone concerned about his performance. That is a GOOD thing. Someone constantly evaluating their skills and demonstrating a concern for their work is a positive.
 
You're assuming reasonable hiring managers
I don't have that luxury
 
@RoryAlsop Thanks for participating in the election!
 
@Magisch 1)You don't want an unreasonable manager, because if you work for him, he'll STILL be unreasonable. 2)You have more choice than you think. 3)Excellence speaks for itself. You are demonstrating qualities of a good employee. If a company cannot identify a good employee, they cannot stay in business
 
3:48 PM
@Magisch Hate to break it to you, but few people have that luxury.
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Kaz
@Magisch You are, at least, young & inexperienced. You can always use that as an excuse in the future.
And hopefully, by that point, have done enough awesome work that you have some options as to who you work for and under what conditions.
 
@Magisch truth be told, your biggest impediment is your pessimism.
 
@puzzlepiece87 thanks
 
4:30 PM
@Magisch I try to keep that in mind when I write answers, and thus I don't write a lot of answers here on workplace.
Anyways, you're fairly well anonymized with your name, I think.
 
Kaz
4:46 PM
I like to think of myself as pseudo-anonymised. A recruiter could find me, but it would take more effort than I expect they put into that kind of thing.
This is also why I have a separate account for questions I wouldn't want traced back to me.
 
@Kaz how do you like wealth management?
 
@MaskedMan Indeed :D
 
Kaz
5:02 PM
@AaronHall It's a good fit for my interests and skills, and pays better than most industries.
 
@DoritoStyle imagine if we got rid of all the insane hiring managers..... ah.. such a dream
 
Kaz
But I care far more about my company than I do about my industry.
Wouldn't have any problem moving into tech or research or something equally technical.
 
@Kaz I guess I fall into that category as well. With enough effort, someone could find me, but it is much easier to just ask me my identity along with a sufficiently convincing need-to-know. ;)
I will hit the repcap on "Day 2" of the HNQ, without hitting it on "Day 1". Never happened to me before. Feels odd.
 
@Kaz do they suggest you get securities licensed?
 
5:20 PM
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',:-|
 
:3
And the room grinds to a halt.
 
5:43 PM
Come on. That wasn't my fault!
 
6:05 PM
@KitZ.Fox how are you?
 
I am OK.
Yourself?
 
I am super, thanks for asking!
 
Are you super because ...? You know what. It's none of my business.
 
ha!
 
I was following you around a little.
 
6:13 PM
I have a positive mental attitude.
 
I wanted to make sure you're alright.
I was concerned about you.
 
I'm quite resilient.
 
OK then.
How is ... was it python you were learning?
or haskell?
 
Haskell is coming slowly because I'm rather stubborn about doing it my own way. I was trying to make it work in emacs orgmode, which I then decided I needed to run on the bleeding edge (so I can possibly fix it and get my fix into the upstream) and now my emacs, which I have been building daily, is no longer building and I'm a little frustrated but that's ok, I'll still succeed and learn a lot as I go.
 
Wow.
How long have you been working it?
 
6:18 PM
I started the polyglot file a month or so back, I think.
And now I want to add Assembly to the list of languages I'm tackling.
 
nice
classic
 
I'm quite ambitious and I don't just want to do what everyone else is doing.
 
What are your ambitions, aside from learning all the things?
 
Make all the money.
Teach all the people.
 
That is ambitious.
 
6:26 PM
And have a few kids.
 
Kids are fun. I like having kids.
I stopped caring about all the other stuff then.
 
ha, everyone left. :)
 
...
am I smelly?
 
Don't blame yourself - I figure my interest in Kaz cooled the room off.
But I was genuinely interested.
 
oh I didn't even read the transcript.
 
6:34 PM
I wondered if tech guys would be recruited to the business side.
I put the same effort into learning finance when I was a financial advisor - but it was much easier, all you had to do was learn the instruments, and ask your firm to allow you to trade them.
I did pretty well with limit orders, covered options trading, trading in CD's and other instruments, but I couldn't get enough accounts.
I was in the wrong market. Maybe could have made it in a metropolis.
But small town with old money - everyone already had their financial advisors lined up.
 
But you have a cat and a pleasant smile. Hmm.
That really should have worked.
so what do you do now then?
 
I just got myself out of running the Python meetups on Sundays. I ran it every Sunday for a year. Then I was backstopping others, running it probably half the time. Now I'm totally off the hook.
I program Python at a bank.
back in 5, team meeting.
 
That's got to be nerve-wracking.
 
nah, I'm good at it, strong domain knowledge too. (has it been 5 minutes?)
 
about
daily standup?
 
6:48 PM
Sure, but I make it a point to sit.
 
I haven't stood yet, but I will on Friday since we moved it to a standing area.
 
In a large bank, I don't think the business will recruit programmers into trading. But it may happen at smaller firms.
 
Oh look, it's Blue Name Day in the Water Cooler. We've substituted their regular coffee for some nasty Folgers. Let's see if they notice...
 
spits out coffee
WHAT DID YOU DO TO MY SANKA!?
 
LOL I haven't heard that name in years.
 
6:54 PM
:D
 
Hah, my questionnaire answer actually got downvoted. Interesting.
 
Well, it wasn't me. I'm not petty that way.
 
hums Princes of the Universe
 
Hah, no worries. I'm just wondering why whoever did it didn't take the opportunity to criticise me in the comments. ;)
 
Hey, I got lotsa downvotes and critical comments when I was running. :)
 
6:59 PM
oh there's an election.
oh I have enough rep to vote in it!
 
Yeppers. Sorry, Chris, I voted for you second, and Rory third...
 
Aww, no I don't.
 
:O
Well, I said a week ago I'd probably lose, given the competition but I'm ok with that. She'd be a great mod.
And that's really what's important. Getting the work done.
 
Being weak-minded about these things, I use site rep as a heuristic. Plus I've generally paid more attention to Lilienthal's material and remember thinking it particularly wise or insightful.
 
7:33 PM
Well, there's no question that she has an understanding of what's expected and a good feel of the community. I've disagreed with some of the tone she's used but that's ok because she owns it and defends it. That earns my respect.
I'm running myself so it's not really an endorsement, per se, but anyone who would object to her being moderator would only do it on the barest of reasons, the tone which I mentioned before. I'd vote for her in a heartbeat if I weren't running.
 
Hmm, while I appreciate the camaraderie on display, I think there are valid concerns to be raised. on the other hand, I'm not sure that there are better candidates than the one's running. :)
@gnat Aaaaand it's gone
 
7:56 PM
@DoritoStyle I don't see it as camaraderie, at least on my end. I'm being honest. She's qualified and would be good. Many of us what JoeStrazzere to do it but he doesn't want to.
I don't always agree with her either but if I did, I wouldn't be running myself now would I?
 
Oh, the qualification is pretty unquestionable, but I don't think tone would be the only reason to withhold a vote from any candidate in the running for that matter.

It sounds like I'm attacking yall right now, but that's not my intent at all!
I'm excited to get more mods and I think we have a great selection in front of us!
 
@DoritoStyle Whatever concerns you have, bring them over to the moderator election chat and we can talk em out.
 
yep, doing that now actually. I'm coming off of a self-imposed cool-down period in honor of the new year, so i'm a bit late to the game.
 
 
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9:09 PM
Cools some water
 
Exchanges some Stacks
 
Places some work
 
9:21 PM
I decided to help the workplace by not running for mod.
and for voting for the very qualified people who did
 
9:42 PM
finally hit 10k though
took me a while
 
well they only had room for one. :/
 
@AaronHall Yeah
I was going to run, but both christopher and lilienthal are better for the job
and the chance of 2 callups is next to nil
so meh, maybe next time
 
@Magisch sit back and enjoy the site for a while.
 
I always do
Stack exchange is the prime reason for most of what I know about workplace behavior and my craft in general
 
@Magisch right, now listen to me, and you'll never go far wrong.
 

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