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2:55 AM
@Will_create_nick_later Hypothetically, if I read his book, applied some advice given there to my job, and lost my job as a result, would he pay me my salary till I found another job?
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5:58 AM
@MaskedMan - why should you loose job because of this book. This book just increases the chances to keep the job. If you pay for your losess, every employer would be happy to keep you because he does not have risk.
But yea, I agree, its insane. I do not get why such programming star like he write this. My colleagues recommended his books and videos, and I noticed this book has the topics I am very interested, so I am reading. I guess I will just take the advice carefully.
maybe he is bit crazy :D
he wrote in the book that when he was 19 he worked for 60-80 hours a week to finish on dealine like 8 montsh or so
that is also crazy
I mean you would not normaly work that amount of time if not preasure, even if you like progtamming very much
but yea, heard similar things in electronic arts, where people work insane amount of times per week
 
6:31 AM
@Will_create_nick_later I am not talking about that one point from the book you have posted.
 
 
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Kaz
9:07 AM
@MaskedMan I meant "community" in the sense that, if people think that large, bold summaries make for bad answers, they will downvote them.
 
Kaz
9:34 AM
And if they don't, then it's not something that should be messed with via Meta
 
 
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11:40 AM
@Will_create_nick_later you might. There are reasons to have phases of very intense, long hours. I definitely appreciate the 100 hour weeks I did for the better part of a year. They were hard, and did lead to me changing jobs so I could spend more time with my family, but they led me to a better, wider range of jobs, and dramatically improved my ability to cope with stress and challenge
 
 
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1:10 PM
@MaskedMan The user name "kyle brown" was a dead giveaway on that question
 
 
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2:17 PM
Any one care to guess what user names we're going to get next? A poster named Tiresias for trans issues? Someone named Oedipus asking about his mother's interference with his work? A Mister Black for racial issues?
 
3:11 PM
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Q: VTC, Downvote, or both?

Richard UIs there any hard and fast rule on which, or which combination are appropriate? Is there a situation where a down-vote does not warrant a close vote (if you have the required rep) Is there a situation where a close vote does not warrant a down-vote? When voting to close, should we be mindful t...

 
3:37 PM
@RichardU My kids went to school (about 15 years ago) with a brother and sister with the dumbest names I've ever seen. Phonetically "oh-RON-juh-low" and "luh-MON-juh-low". Spelled Lemonjello and Orangejello. No lie.
and with all due respect to snopes, this is not an apocryphal story. My wife knew their mom. She was a little cray cray.
 
4:16 PM
@ChristopherEstep I actually knew a Lemonjello, she pronounced it lemon jello. Ended up marrying a man with the last name of bugel
 
None of my kids have weird names though for some reason, my son named 2 of his boys Cash and Justice. /boggle
 
@ChristopherEstep My (soon to be ex) wife named our children. She went for strange spellings for both. I've joked that she put so many vowels in our youngest girl's first name that she'll have to find a nice Serbian boy so it balances out. Serbian names are known for a distinct lack of vowels. I actually knew someone with the last name of Tvrdy. Not a single vowel in his last name.
 
The only strange-ish spelling we have is for my daughter Ashlee. But that's not unheard of and has the benefit being distinctly feminine unlike the more common spelling Ashley
 
@RichardU How about North West? :o Not sure what would be worse for her growing up, the strange name or knowing that she is the daughter of two people famous mainly for being douchebags.
When nothing goes right, go North West. :P
 
Kaz
4:54 PM
@RichardU Depends if you count "y" as a vowel.
 
@Kaz it can function as one, but is not considered one, I believe. I could be wrong
 
Kaz
@RichardU According to the OED, it's something of a hybrid. Or maybe it just has a quantum wave function ^^
 
5:09 PM
I think in that context it would be as it has the "ee" sound as opposed to the hard y like in yellow.
 
6:06 PM
I asked a question that is probably not very good
Had to vent some insecurity and maybe get some perspective
felt good to get it off my chest though
 
6:43 PM
@Magisch I gave you some of my sagacious advice ;)
 
@Erik Thank you for your kind words on the nomination post.
 
@RichardU I know about impostor syndrome, I just can't shake the feeling
I feel like a fraud getting nearly all I know from googling my problem statements in english and adapting from there
 
@Magisch We've all had it.
It's a side effect of being good.
 
6:59 PM
or a side effect of having too nice coworkers and being actually bad
 
I walked into a job once knowing nothing, I had a book, that was it.
@Magisch any idiot can google, it's what you do with it that counts.
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I once hired a guy who couldn't answer a single technical question I asked him. His response was "I'd look it up" THAT'S why I hired him.
@Magisch Oh, never worry about coworkers that are too nice, Unicorns, the tooth fairy and other mythical beasts
 
@RichardU I wouldn't personally go that far, but I'm much more interested in "what steps would you take to find the problem" followed by an explanation why. That tells me nearly everything I need to know.
 
I feel like I'm in 20 miles over my head a lot
 
7:24 PM
@RichardU I feel like I cheated a bit to get here because the only reason I even know about this company is because my dad did their taxes for a few years
I could have gotten apprenticeships elsewhere but I feel like they're going extra easy on me because I'm related to a former employee
 
@Magisch I got my first job writing software because my mom was the controller. I guess my whole career is a fraud. :)
You need to think about the underlying message of what you're saying. If that's what you think when they tell you you're doing fine, you're essentially questioning their own competence, integrity or both.
 
My insecurity has been building up for a year at least it feels good to let it out for once
 
We all go through it.
One minute you feel like racing Jesus across the Galilee and the next you feel like Lloyd Christmas. Trust your colleagues to not sabotage your company to make you feel better. :)
 
@ChristopherEstep throughout growing up I caught crap from almost every authority figure once in a while
I haven't been chewed out for at least a year here
 
7:44 PM
Ahh. You're waiting for the "inevitable" other shoe to drop (if you get the metaphor).
 
@JoeStrazzere May I ask why you haven't nominated yourself for the moderator position? I realise that you haven't done so in previous election either but I think it's difficult to argue that you wouldn't be the most suitable candidate given both your contributions to the site and to meta.
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I reiterate my previous statement to that effect. chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/message/35147458#35147458
 
8:01 PM
Hah, true. I think I would almost have to withdraw if Joe does decide to run. I don't think my ego could handle "losing" that badly. :)
 
It would be a beating of epic proportions. We'd be Mop 1 and Mop 2 because of how the floor would be wiped with us. :)
 
Looks like it's a moot point as the election just went live.
And here I was trying to work up a reference to the hustings.
 
Yeah, he ignored my threat earlier so I figured he was determined.
 
And there goes the rest of my evening.
 
8:29 PM
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Q: Is anything wrong with the primaries?

bytebusterDuring the primary phase, all three nominees received 0 votes and 0 questions about their candidacies (although there were some comments during the nomination phase). Does it mean the primary failed? Being not a very active user of this site, I realize that my preference may be inaccurate. In s...

 
8:44 PM
@Magisch maybe you haven't caught crap because you're maturing. Every last one of us has gotten one job or another from a friend or relative. But that's ALL. The friend or relative didn't go in and do the work, didn't get projects done and didn't have to get along with your coworkers. Don't sell yourself short.]
Even though we've bumped heads, I've always said that you're very bright.
If one of your online adversaries can believe that about you, so should you.
 
9:08 PM
@Lilienthal Thanks, but while I enjoy writing answers, I'm not sure I would enjoy being a moderator. I think the Mods here do a great job and I'm glad the community has some terrific volunteers willing to help them.
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9:22 PM
@JoeStrazzere Living the life of Cincinnatus, eh?
 
9:35 PM
@JoeStrazzere Yeah that makes sense. I assumed it was something like that since you hadn't joined in previous elections. And Forrest Gump comes to mind: "If it wouldn't be such a waste of a damn-fine enlisted man I'd recommend you for OCS." ;)
 
@Lilienthal (moot now I know, but...) No no, you should always give the community a choice, and second place can still matter if SE needs to call up another mod later. On the election currently in progress on Mi Yodeya, the founder of the site is a candidate -- and yet two other people stood, too. Any of the three of them would be a fine choice. Don't assume that only the highest-rep user, or the founder, or whomever is a worthy candidate.
laugh I just saw this:
in The Factory Floor, 7 hours ago, by DaaaahWhoosh
I wonder if other sites have the same problem with the HNQ list
 
@MonicaCellio Oh I'm aware, hence why I said I "would almost have to". I saw your comment in the election chat about it and I agree with @RoryAlsop that it's good to have at least a few candidates in.
in The Factory Floor, 7 hours ago, by DaaaahWhoosh
the HNQ list always has problems
Hell, that's arguably an understatement.
I quite like how Reddit has this thing where following an external link to a thread opens it in read-only mode with some message to the effect of "Please do us the courtesy of not voting if you are not a subscriber."
Something like that would be useful for the HNQ but I doubt SE considers the system broken considering that it's the main source of traffic between sites.
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Q: Boss Contamination

AabglovI work at a small tech company in the US. My superior came in today sick as a dog. I could hear him sniffling and coughing all day. This wasn't a big deal until he came over to my desk to ask about something. During the discussion he used my keyboard and mouse. I've got to use this keyboard ...

Hmm, practical answer to a personal question. I suppose it's a good answer in a way but it's likely going to stop non-practical answers from coming in.
And if anyone wants to tackle it: I really hate that title, but I can't figure out how to improve the question without rewriting half of it.
@Lilienthal yes, but my mind couldn't wrap itself around the gestalt. — Richard U 1 hour ago
@RichardU I'm not sure how to interpret gestalt in this sense. Do you mean that you couldn't work out what the meta consensus / best practice is, if there is one?
 
10:22 PM
@RichardU Well, no dictatorships for me...
 
10:36 PM
@Lilienthal Thing is, you do have to join a Stack Exchange community even to upvote! You have to at least link your main site account. It's still trivially way to create an account and start weighing in though, so I see your point.
 
True but we get a lot of people coming in from more technical sites who seem to easily forget that what we're talking about here tends to have far greater consequences than a broken build.
While vote inflation is ultimately a minor concern, the bigger issue is that it's common for answers that "take the moral high road" to rise to the top while answers that consider professional image and consequences or the reality that people can't afford to torpedo their career over e.g. a few hours of unpaid overtime go un-noticed or are even downvoted for being "unjust".
 
I agree completely
 
@Lilienthal lol - it's not going to change the result :-)
@Lilienthal that's a really good point
and I think strong guidance is needed here sometimes
it's the same on some of the other sites that are non-techy
 
10:51 PM
It's arguably the biggest frustration with HNQ questions: they just break the voting system.
Excellent answers that come in a few hours late might as well not exist.
 
When I first joined The Workplace, I was pretty shocked by some highly upvoted answers that would seem to seriously jeopardize workplace reputation at best.
 
I've seen some great bethlakshmi posts languishing at 1 or 2 points.
I have seen some posts beat the odds and rise to the top, and I've done it once or twice myself, but it's a huge obstacle to climb.
(Signing off, ping me if necessary.)
 
11:07 PM
Various posts have appeared on meta over the years asking for some way to change HNQ effects, and the effect of votes on posts migrated from trilogy to a smaller site
Not found a solution yet
Well, not implemented one
 

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