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jmac
jmac
12:00 AM
@enderland I'm on the fence personally, and I'm a bit disturbed that we only have three people nominated right now. We should have at least 6, if not 9, so that we have a choice and can get the best candidates. There are definitely that many people qualified, so the lack of nominations worries me.
 
enderland
enderland
@jmac my biggest problem is I can't even reasonably commit to something where I'm going to be 1/3 the moderation team (ignoring how SE is officially community moderated) - there will be a lot of time in the next months and years of my life I'm not able to make this level of committment
 
jmac
jmac
@enderland I think that most of us are the same way. The way I look at it is: can I commit 30 minutes a day for the next 6 months until people get their privileges back? And if the answer is yes, I trust that the community will pick up the slack longer term.
 
enderland
enderland
for me it's not easy to commit to something knowing I will not be able to do as good as I would expect myself to
 
jmac
jmac
And it isn't easy for me either, which is why I kept declining to run every time I was asked. But when the time came, I realized "This community is more important than my personal quibbles about how things should be, or how I'd like to do things in an ideal world"
You have been pretty regular about participating in moderating this site over the year I've been here. Unless you are expecting a severe change to that level of participation (and a foreseeable one, not just a "what if"), I can't imagine that your level of participation wouldn't be well above what I would expect of a mod.
Not trying to force you in to it, just want you to make the decision for the right reasons, and not just because it is easier not to run than to make a commitment.
 
enderland
enderland
there are a few reasons by this point, all of which I consider quite valid
 
jmac
jmac
12:08 AM
Not going to pry -- hope that everything goes well and all that.
 
enderland
enderland
12:27 AM
4
Q: How to clock time on a mandatory shuttle?

Obviously_AnonMost of my organization's employees park at the office, but there aren't enough spots for everyone. The company has an overflow lot 10 minutes from the building where about 20% of the employees are required to park. The company provides a shuttle to and from the office. My question is: When shou...

salary compensation work-time
we had this question before, right?
 
jmac
jmac
12:47 AM
@enderland I don't think so (though if it was before 2013, I wouldn't recognize it if it had been asked)
 
Monica Cellio
Monica Cellio
@jmac I would expect hot questions to be among the top 2-3 issues facing the site and that's covered in another answer, so maybe that's part of it. Given that there will only be 10 questions, I tend to prefer broader ones to more-specific ones (so long as they aren't so broad that there's no meat). For example, I downvoted the one about the close-votes queue because while yeah, that's important, it's just one example of the binding diamond vote and I'd prefer a broader answer.
Oops I meant to ping @gnat on that. ^^^
 
jmac
jmac
@MonicaCellio 100% on the same page as you are. And may I suggest you nominate yourself while you're at it? It's non-binding through the primaries, so it can't hurt to put your name out there.
 
Monica Cellio
Monica Cellio
@jmac I'm going to comment on that over in the election room shortly.
 
jmac
jmac
@MonicaCellio Appreciated. Having only 3 nominees is not a very good sign....
 
Monica Cellio
Monica Cellio
@jmac I agree. I was expecting more candidates, and especially expecting at least one current mod.
 
jmac
jmac
12:51 AM
Yeah, that part really shocked me. In a not-good way.
 
BVR
BVR
@enderland , I am not sure do you got notified my reply or not. Just replying again. Is there any difference it makes between work goals and life goals? However to answer your question I am talking about my work goals
 
Monica Cellio
Monica Cellio
1:18 AM
@jmac see the other room.
 
jmac
jmac
1:56 AM
@MonicaCellio Responded to (in the other room)
 
Chad
Chad
2:31 AM
@enderland a similar one I think it was real early in beta. But I can not seem to find it
 
enderland
enderland
2:48 AM
@BVR sorry, I think I missed that - I think work goals are easier to incorporate into "how can I tell if my work is meeting my goals" and a lot more on topic than, "how can I tell if my job is meeting my life goals"
 
Chad
Chad
@jmac Its only Wedensday... I am really hoping that the current mod crew are just waiting for the weekend so as not to scare off anyone considering running but not wanting to compete with them.
There are a few others I think would like to see put in as well.
 
jmac
jmac
@Chad Are there really people who would be scared off by seeing jmort or Jim or Nick running? I can't imagine that happening, but then again I'm no Oracle.
 
Chad
Chad
3:13 AM
@jmac I Dont think scared off, so much as defer to them out of respect maybe
 
enderland
enderland
@Chad I thought I remember you answering one about that, actually, about driving time within a closed campus
 
Chad
Chad
@enderland yeah...
 
Chad
Chad
3:31 AM
@enderland is there a way to search deleted questions? I wonder if it is in there.
If I remember right it was a pretty contentious question.
ok heading to bed night
 
jmac
jmac
4:19 AM
@AlexM. Could I kindly request not to use terms like 'editraping' which some (myself included) find offensive? Editing is a collective activity on the SE sites, and while your personal preference may be to wait for clarification, we have a long history of aggressive edits here on The Workplace to bear in mind.
If you want to bring up the discussion on what appropriate edits are, especially in the context of this specific question, please feel free to do so on meta.
 
 
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gnat
gnat
5:46 AM
@MonicaCellio you wrote hot questions covered in another answer. I couldn't find it, can you help? or maybe I misread?
 
 
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Jim G.
Jim G.
7:12 AM
@AlexM.: I agree with @jmac. One of my questions was editraped when I was younger. It wasn't funny and it was very traumatizing.
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Q: I would like to contribute my effort for free to the IT world

user3462253Do you know of any open sources online that allow me to contribute my effort to ? because I would like to have something to write in my CV. I have been unemployed for a long time. I don't know if my question fits here, please suggest a room or move this to wherever is best suited.

career-development job-search job-change careers open-door-policy
^^^ What a swell guy.
 
Alex M.
Alex M.
7:55 AM
@jmac oh, not this <yeah> again
fine, I won't say it again
I'll never understand how people can find such things offensive, it's not even aimed at them or people for what it's worth
@JimG. lol
 
RhysW
RhysW
@AlexM. People like jmac put a lot of time and effort into editing the questions into a good shape and to make them of a high quality. Calling it 'editraping' is like saying you don't value his time or efforts and you would rather it be left alone.
(Not saying that is what you are saying, but that's how it can come across)
 
Alex M.
Alex M.
that is not what I meant by editraping
what I called editraping was the question going through tens of edits in less than 10 minutes, which in the end resulted in the question having nothing to do with its original meaning
 
RhysW
RhysW
If you compare the first and last versions of the post, there is pretty much no difference in the question other than the way its worded, so i'm not sure what you mean when you say it has nothing to do with the original meaning
but on a more general note appending 'rape' or 'raping' to a word generally has pretty negative connotations! :P
 
Alex M.
Alex M.
@RhysW that's because Chad edited it to be closer to the original question than starsplusplus' version
 
RhysW
RhysW
8:10 AM
starplusplus only added in the information from the comments
the information the OP should have originally given in the post
 
jmac
jmac
@RhysW It has nothing to do with validation of my efforts in editing, and everything to do with the casual use of the word 'rape'. The general idea is that 'rape' is not something to be lightly or casually discussed, and that it isn't a generally descriptive word to be tacked on especially on something as...insignificant...as an edit on a website. Who it's aimed at is irrelevant, what matters is the potential harm it can do to a reader, directed or not.
 
RhysW
RhysW
but anyways, not trying to get at you about specific questions / answers, just trying to explain why some people might not like the term editraping :)
@jmac yeah, i sort of tried to say the same thing in one of my above notes, though perhaps not as well as you managed
 
Alex M.
Alex M.
it's really hard to not offend someone considering different things offend different people
 
RhysW
RhysW
@AlexM. 'rape' generally offends everyone i find ;)
 
Alex M.
Alex M.
except me
that being said yes, I agree it can offend more people than other similar words
 
RhysW
RhysW
8:14 AM
and you are free to continue using the word, just understand that other poeple will find it offensive
 
Alex M.
Alex M.
I remember saying something offensive about a particular group of people over on gd.se once, and since those people were a really popular topic at the time, everyone flagged me for being ultra offensive
 
RhysW
RhysW
different cultures and people find different things offensive, of course we don't expect anybody to memorize every possible right and wrong thing to say, all we ask is that you are a little more considerate once someone does point out 'hey i find this offensive, please don't'
 
Alex M.
Alex M.
then, I said something even worse about another group of people coming from my country, and nobody did anything because they didn't care
that sort of disgusted me
 
jmac
jmac
There is just no need to use it. Does it add anything to your sentence? Wouldn't it be fine to say, "when it's safe to assume nobody will be dramatically editing it then" instead? I don't find it appropriate, and since you've agreed not to use it, I don't see any issue here.
 
Alex M.
Alex M.
and showed me how much people who flag things for being offensive smell like hypocrites
 
jmac
jmac
8:17 AM
(I am also 'that guy' who will call people out for using slurs in a video game or other 'casual' context even when it's generally accepted by the community. I don't find slurs or making serious things like rape or suicide more casual to be appropriate in any context)
 
RhysW
RhysW
changing topic, i wonder if both jmort and jim will nominate themselves this weekend
 
jmac
jmac
@RhysW I hope so. We need more nominees.
 
Alex M.
Alex M.
I was wondering if the election would really end with the existing three nominees selected automatically :D
 
RhysW
RhysW
i think they said they are waiting so as not to scare off other candidates
it is a shame there isnt a couple more people, but i can understand why some of the people i have in mind might not want to
It'd be quite nice to have either Monica or Rachel run, (preferably both!), as from what I have seen they already have moderator type attitudes and an understanding of the issues here
 
jmac
jmac
@RhysW Monica should toss her hat in the ring at the very least, and hopefully a few more. If she does, and we also get jmort and Jim, that brings it up to 6. I have hopes that someone else will hop in, perhaps beth, or HLGEM, or the like.
 
CMW
CMW
8:26 AM
 
RhysW
RhysW
@jmac I think Monica expressed an interest, depending on who else ran, though I might be misremembering
 
CMW
CMW
Good morning, too
 
jmac
jmac
in Workplace 2014 Election, 6 hours ago, by Monica Cellio
@jmac that makes sense. I guess if I'm really clear about what kind of moderation I'll be able to supply, the community can then decide if that's ok. Mostly I want to make sure that I'm neither signing up for more than I can do nor disappointing the community because I didn't do what they expected.
 
RhysW
RhysW
Hey CMW :P
 
jmac
jmac
She will likely nominate, you can see the discussion over the in the election room in full, but she was hesitant because she was worried that she wouldn't provide what the community is looking for, and I kindly explained that is what the election process is for. Hopefully she will nominate herself so that the community is at least given a choice in the matter, as I think she'd be a good candidate.
 
CMW
CMW
8:29 AM
Has Michael Gubrey said anything about it yet?
 
jmac
jmac
The discussion starts from this post:
in Workplace 2014 Election, 7 hours ago, by Monica Cellio
@jmac, carrying over from the Water Cooler, small wall of text coming right up:
 
RhysW
RhysW
@jmac That and I don't know what country to fly to to encourage her to nominate herself. I atleast knew where to go to bug you :P
@CMW I haven't seen him much lately, so not sure
 
jmac
jmac
 
CMW
CMW
ah! someone from another time zone, too
good
:D
 
RhysW
RhysW
@jmac Perfect! finds plane tickets
 
Alex M.
Alex M.
8:30 AM
@RhysW you sure are happy to fly to countries to force people to do stuff
lol
 
RhysW
RhysW
It's what I hope to bring to the moderating table :P
This user made a good post? Better fly to their house and shake their hand
 
CMW
CMW
@AlexM. he's very american that way
 
RhysW
RhysW
@AlexM. not force! encourage :P
 
CMW
CMW
@RhysW liberate
 
RhysW
RhysW
I was just thinking that
 
Alex M.
Alex M.
8:34 AM
@CMW lol
so he flies to countries to bring democracy to them
and during lunch breaks he convinces people to become moderators
yup <3
 
CMW
CMW
Yes. like getting them to participate in elections
that's the spirit
 
jmac
jmac
in Workplace 2014 Election, 6 hours ago, by Monica Cellio
@jmac understood. And don't worry; you can't force me. :-) It's my decision, but I asked for input because I value it in making that decision.
I used the word 'cajole'
in Workplace 2014 Election, 6 hours ago, by jmac
@MonicaCellio (I may not be able to force you, but I certainly can cajole and otherwise be devious)
 
CMW
CMW
@jmac that's no word
that sounds like dinner
 
RhysW
RhysW
@jmac That is a word I have not heard in a long time
 
CMW
CMW
:D
 
jmac
jmac
8:36 AM
@CMW Yes it is: "persuade (someone) to do something by sustained coaxing or flattery."
Kind of like how I got RhysW to nominate himself to be a mod, right @RhysW?
 
RhysW
RhysW
@jmac Hah, too much cajoling, I might just have been 'dealt with' if i left the nominations as only two members! :P
 
CMW
CMW
"we have ways"
 
jmac
jmac
@CMW Funnily enough, I always heard the phrase as being related to a German, with it said in a German-esque accent (W -> V, V -> F, etc.)
 
CMW
CMW
:D
 
RhysW
RhysW
Am I the only person who doesn't attribute that accent to the germans? Whenever i hear it it just doesn't make 'German' spring to mind
 
CMW
CMW
8:41 AM
I'll remember to try and do a german accent vhen ve meet
 
RhysW
RhysW
Though my german exchange partner did actually use soft letters, so perhaps thats why i dont attribute it there
 
CMW
CMW
@RhysW Judging form "How I Met Your Mother", what americans attribute to German is... odd
I love the fact, though, that an increasing number of 'German' roles in US and canadian TV shows are actually played by germans
or native speakers, at least
 
RhysW
RhysW
@CMW Ahh but im not American!
 
CMW
CMW
@RhysW That's why I figured you knew better. Proximity might be key
 
jmac
jmac
I think it may be a regional thing. Germany is a big country with many different types of people in it. There are the Serious Germans, and the adventurous backpacking beer-drinking Germans. And never the twain shall meet.
 
RhysW
RhysW
8:48 AM
@jmac Yeah my exchange partner was a different region to everyone elses
 
CMW
CMW
@jmac Then there's Berlin. Where all meets.
:)
 
jmac
jmac
@RhysW Exchange Partner, Germany. Population: 1.
 
Alex M.
Alex M.
lol
I visited Dusseldorf for two weeks or so as a kid
 
jmac
jmac
@CMW Tyler Cowen of Marginal Revolution fame absolutely raves about Berlin. I've never been to Berlin, but I have been to Frankfurt-area, and Dusseldorf/Cologne-area in the recent past.
 
Alex M.
Alex M.
I liked it but tbh unless you go somewhere like in Asia, the differences between people exist, but are not many enough to make the place feel truly different from other European countries
Germany really felt like a richer and more sophisticated Romania, that was about it
 
jmac
jmac
8:52 AM
And I am absolutely astonished to have learned that Cologne is totally not actually Cologne, but rather Köln. This was coupled by my shock of learning that Wrocław, Poland was what I heard about by it's German name of Breslau.
 
CMW
CMW
That's the name we gave it, when it was germany :D
 
jmac
jmac
Every place I visit in Europe feels incredibly different. And a lot of the places in Asia actually feel rather similar to me.
 
CMW
CMW
If any of you ever come to visit berlin: I have beer in the fridge
 
jmac
jmac
@CMW Yeah, I know that now, but I was wondering how I had never heard of this Wroclaw place.
 
CMW
CMW
Same with Szczecin -> Stettin
 
jmac
jmac
8:54 AM
@CMW If I visit Berlin, we are going out to a beer hall to eat some pretzels and drink some beer and eat some good food. What's the specialty in Berlin?
 
CMW
CMW
and we do it to italian cities too
 
jmac
jmac
@CMW Never heard of either to be honest.
 
CMW
CMW
Bolzano -> Bozen
@jmac Pretty much everything non-german
:D
We have a BBQ place here that serves authentic pulled pork smoked for 16 hours
 
jmac
jmac
When I visited Poland, I loved the pork lard and minced pork spread on brown bread. That was awesome.
 
Alex M.
Alex M.
@jmac I used to play a lot of Patrician 2 as a kid
 
jmac
jmac
8:56 AM
And when around Frankfurt, the German version of ravioli was absolutely delicious.
 
Alex M.
Alex M.
and Cologne was one of the towns you could trade with
 
CMW
CMW
o.0
 
Alex M.
Alex M.
I was surprised to see it was actually "Koln"
 
jmac
jmac
I had raw pork on bread in Dusseldorf too. That was delicious, but probably isn't a good idea to eat regularly.
 
CMW
CMW
@jmac oh! Maultaschen
 
jmac
jmac
8:57 AM
@CMW Sure, that was absolutely delicious. An awesome creamy mushroom sauce with it, and a nice Pilsner and a Weissbier to wash it down with.
 
CMW
CMW
yep, that really is awesome
 
jmac
jmac
(yes, I know Weissbier is a Munich thing, and I almost got thrown out of the hotel I was staying at in Dussedorf for ordering one there)
 
CMW
CMW
In the region I'm from we have a special from BBQ called 'Schwenken'
 
jmac
jmac
Yes! That sounds delicious. If I find my way to Berlin, we will have BBQ and beer.
 
CMW
CMW
Schwenker
The term Schwenker is a local term from the German state of Saarland, the Mosel Valley and big parts of Rheinland Pfalz and is used in three ways, all relating to the same grilled meat: # Schwenker or Schwenkbraten is a marinated pork neck steak which originates from the Saarland (known there as Schwenksteak) and is grilled on a Schwenker (2). Normally either a green herb or red paprika marinade is used when preparing Schwenkbraten. Traditionally, Schwenkbraten is made of pork, but turkey variants have also become popular recently. Schwenkbraten are about the size of a hand in leng...
(there's even a spanish version of that article)
 
jmac
jmac
8:59 AM
When I was in London many moons ago, my friend took me to an American themed BBQ party. I found it hilarious that I felt out of place despite being the only American. I felt so sad that that is how folks from my country look to the Brits.
 
CMW
CMW
Berliner Weisse
Berliner Weisse (; alternative German spelling, Berliner Weiße) is a cloudy, sour, wheat beer of around 3% abv. It is a regional beer from Northern Germany, mainly Berlin, dating back to the 16th century. By the 19th century, Berliner Weisse was the most popular alcoholic drink in Berlin, and 700 breweries produced it. By the late 20th century, there were only two breweries left in Berlin producing the beer, and a few in other parts of Germany. The name is protected in Germany, where it may only be applied to beers brewed in Berlin. However, there are a number of American and Canad...
 
jmac
jmac
3%?! 3%?! That means you can have twice as much, right?
CMW, the Schwenkermeister.
 
CMW
CMW
it's basically a tastier Apfelschorle
@jmac I will take a picture with my apron on. Which says exactly that. "Schweinkmeischder" (the local dialect version)
 
jmac
jmac
Okay, Berlin has been put on the list of European cities. After Prague.
Anyway, quitting time.
 
RhysW
RhysW
@jmac quittin? ive just started!
speaking of, catch you all later :P
 
jmac
jmac
9:03 AM
Enjoy your day, be good, and take a look at this question and apply a liberal dose of (merited) downvotes/upvotes.
 
CMW
CMW
we will
enjoy your evening
 
Michael Grubey
Michael Grubey
Morning all
Did anyone else get a Email about a t-shirt to be sent out?
 
CMW
CMW
somebody mentioned something about connecting with some of us
shog maybe?
 
RhysW
RhysW
@MichaelGrubey you gonna be running for mod?
also hi
 
CMW
CMW
@MichaelGrubey I did. Just overlooked it between the other stack exchange mails.
yes, hi too
 
RhysW
RhysW
9:19 AM
:/ they dont make the shirt in my size
 
CMW
CMW
that's unfortunate. maybe you can get in touch with tim and work something out
 
RhysW
RhysW
US small is too big for me i think :L
hmm on further investigation, perhaps not, we will go with that option :D
 
CMW
CMW
buff up!
:)
 
RhysW
RhysW
if only it were that easy!
 
CMW
CMW
just teasing
 
RhysW
RhysW
9:22 AM
Don't worry, I took it as teasing :)
You'd be hard pressed to insult me successfully
 
CMW
CMW
I'll keep that in mind!
(not taking it as a challenge tho)
 
RhysW
RhysW
haha, years of customer facing positions pretty much dull you to any insults
 
CMW
CMW
aren't you only 19?
;-)
 
RhysW
RhysW
yup, and worked since i was 16
 
CMW
CMW
cool
 
RhysW
RhysW
9:27 AM
20 in under a month, leaving the teens behind!
 
CMW
CMW
That line just sounds like you've been doing such jobs for the last 20 years :)
 
Alex M.
Alex M.
@RhysW so I'm older than you? that's good to know lol
 
RhysW
RhysW
@AlexM. I guess so, not sure how old you are :P if you are older than (20 years minus 16 days), then yeah you are older than me!
 
Alex M.
Alex M.
21 yeah
seems we started working at the same age
you can call me Alex-senpai if you want ;) ;) ;)
just kidding lol
A DOPPELGANGER
who are you @Alex and what is your intent here
 
CMW
CMW
name, rank, service id
:)
 
RhysW
RhysW
9:34 AM
@AlexM. hah, what field do you work in again?
 
Alex M.
Alex M.
utility software dev before, game programming now
 
RhysW
RhysW
thats the one
seems i am literally following your footsteps then
 
Alex M.
Alex M.
@Alex your silence tells me many things
 
RhysW
RhysW
i make websites ect now, slowly moving into game dev in my personal time
 
Alex M.
Alex M.
neat :D gamedev sure is fun, though I do try from time to time to do other stuff
 
CMW
CMW
9:37 AM
@AlexM. Don't scare away the new guys
 
Alex M.
Alex M.
like when I started setting up that bug tracking system, I enjoyed it so much I spent two days just writing SQL queries
@CMW I'm just kidding here :P
 
CMW
CMW
I know :)
 
RhysW
RhysW
I have big plans, starting is the hardest part
once ive started its easy to keep going
 
Alex M.
Alex M.
starting is always the hardest part, yup
not sure who people attribute this quote to
 
Michael Grubey
Michael Grubey
@RhysW Hey dude :). Nah I'm going to be. My site activity is very minimal compared to many others so I don't feel as though I would be a good fit. Also I'm not on here as much as I wish I could be.
 
RhysW
RhysW
9:40 AM
Thats a shame but makes sense :)
 
Michael Grubey
Michael Grubey
@CMW Ok awesome thanks.
@RhysW Do you have another doppelganger?
 
RhysW
RhysW
I have loads, apparently I am everyone
@MichaelGrubey So how have things been?
Whatcha been up to, new job?
 
Michael Grubey
Michael Grubey
9:56 AM
@RhysW Yeah a new job....well newish I guess. Been here for about 5 months now so I guess you could call that new. Got a new place for me and the missus and a new car. Been a good few months thats for sure. What about you?
 
RhysW
RhysW
Nice!, been at my job for about 5 months now too :P
dont have a new house, or missus, or car though, so i guess thats where we differ :P
 
Michael Grubey
Michael Grubey
What work are you currently doing now? You need to get out there on the market...well the wifey and property market anyways :L
 
RhysW
RhysW
hah, not prepared for either yet, software dev for work, mostly websites for clients
 
gnat
gnat
0
Q: Hitting client deadlines with the App Store review process

Dan RobinsonA client has requested a fast turnaround on a public iOS app. We know we can manage it with the resources available, but distributing via the Apple App Store is an unknown to us. I understand that Apple can be fairly opaque regarding their review times and their rejection policies, and my conce...

ios appstore apple
^^^ managing customer expectations in a situation like that, good enough to migrate to Workplace?
 
RhysW
RhysW
"How can I explain to a client that the delivery date is dependent on a third party"
 
Alex M.
Alex M.
10:03 AM
it can be reformulated to say "Managing customer expectations when delivery depends on a third party."
 
RhysW
RhysW
little bit of rewording might make it fit for here yeah
 
Alex M.
Alex M.
RhysW was faster lol
as expected from RhysW-kohai
 
RhysW
RhysW
;) im used to title editing
making things google finde-able is what i like doing
 
Alex M.
Alex M.
like SEO stuff?
 
RhysW
RhysW
sort of, i try to pick simple terms that other people are more likely to use when searching that problem
i try to make it easier for people to find, rather than search engines, if that makes sense
 
Alex M.
Alex M.
10:05 AM
yeah got it
 
gnat
gnat
0
Q: How to manage customer expectations when delivery depends on an opaque third party (Apple App Store)?

Dan RobinsonA client has requested a fast turnaround on a public iOS app. We know we can manage it with the resources available, but distributing via the Apple App Store is an unknown to us. I understand that Apple can be fairly opaque regarding their review times and their rejection policies, and my conce...

ios appstore apple
^^^ like that?
 
RhysW
RhysW
hah a merge of the two suggestions, i like it
 
gnat
gnat
I kept app store in there for the case if migration fails. If succeeds, feel free to clean it up further
 
Alex M.
Alex M.
looks good to me
 
RhysW
RhysW
agreed
 
gnat
gnat
10:09 AM
all right, flagged for mod attention referring to our discussion above
 
Alex M.
Alex M.
I might be able to answer that
I did interact a bit with the app store, never had a review process to take less than 1 week
also had a rejection after 1.5+ weeks
in contrast, Google approves p. much anything in less than 2 hours lol
 
RhysW
RhysW
well its not so much about the app store as it is managing the customer
 
Alex M.
Alex M.
of course, I just wanted to highlight the variability of the review process
music drop!
you guys like trance, yes?
 
RhysW
RhysW
10:35 AM
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A: When emailing my boss, is it OK to use his first name in the greeting?

WeNeedAnswersWhen in doubt, do nowt. Just flow straight into the email. usually a greeting is required, just say "Hi" and end with "regards". Depends on your relationship. If you have never talked to the person then you should always go formal and say Mr or Mrs/Miss/Ms.. so that would be Hi Mrs Benjamin. if...

juding by the answerers comments here everyone is out to get him
 
Michael Grubey
Michael Grubey
Well that escalated quickly o_O
So tempted to put something on there about the use of a exclamation mark!
 
RhysW
RhysW
My enthusiasm is apparently taken only as shouting. I was under the impression that shouting was WHEN YOU WRITE ALL IN CAPS. Perhaps im not as internet savvy as i thought :P
I'm just flagging and moving on, no point giving him the attention and chance to yell some more.
 
Michael Grubey
Michael Grubey
Soo would it be wrong if I put this?
Just going to point out that the use of an exclamation mark was to convey strong feelings. NOT YELLING!
 
RhysW
RhysW
Not wrong, just not constructive
flagged for user being abusive (mostly towards Dan), now to spend my time helping users who are happy to be helped
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Q: Influence boss' decision on what role to assign me to?

Jess StoneMy boss is undecided whether to assign me to: role A: office (managing spreadsheets, image editing, vectorial drawing, etc.) role B: warehouse stock assistant How can I convince him or influence his decision? I feel more inclined for the office role, rather than the stock one. I have worke...

management human-resources psychology team-role
This is quite broad, does anyone see a way we could narrow this down a bit?
I dont think we have a question about talking with your boss to decide your role once you are already hired (which i think the op is)
 
Michael Grubey
Michael Grubey
How can I convey my strengths to my boss so he can see what I would be best suited doing?
 
RhysW
RhysW
10:46 AM
yeah, asking op some questions to clarify if they already work there, what they already do, ect
"Vote me up or I'll probably be banned from this sucky group. :D" (facepalm)
Did we ever come to a consensus on what to do with resource requests? I notice we dont have a close reason for them @jmort / @jmac
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Q: How can I evaluate the work situation of my field between countries and cities?

NenotlepI'm interested in working in a different country. How can I evaluate the work situation and competition I would face in the job market between different countries and cities? The variables here that I can think of immediately: How many positions are open in my field How open are the locals to ...

career-development careers international
Can we maybe get it on hold until a consensus is reached? Otherwise its going to degenerate in quality pretty fast
 
Michael Grubey
Michael Grubey
11:05 AM
Dont have enough rep to vote for it sorry :(
 
RhysW
RhysW
:(
we are all facing the harsh drop in permissions
except a few high rep members who can still do everything they want :P
 
CMW
CMW
we'll soon see a sharp increase in permissions :)
 
gnat
gnat
@RhysW original version of the "answer" was literally screaming get on me, it was really bad. It improved only with recent edit
 
RhysW
RhysW
@gnat Improved with recent edit? perhaps a little, there is more content, although there is also now more content insulting various members
Its a shame that some people take any hint at improvement needed as a personal attack on themselves
 
gnat
gnat
11:21 AM
@RhysW No disagreement here, it's still pretty much meh, and answerer comments are bad. It is only an improvement compared to original version (I'd probably skip voting it down in current form, but still, would not even think of voting up)
 
RhysW
RhysW
Well in answer to those people who said 'how will you deal with people being condescending and rude to you when you are a mod' at least i now have a recent example to direct them to. every cloud. silver lining. :P
@gnat I find that funny because the tooltips are 'this is useful' and 'this is not useful', its gotta be one fof those surely :P
(though i know they are mostly not used like that)
 
gnat
gnat
@RhysW it takes time to choose between tooltips in posts like that (in comparison, I decided to vote down original version in a matter of seconds). I plan to get back to it a bit later, when I have time, re-read more carefully and pick my button
 
RhysW
RhysW
True, the odd limits on voting with timeframes do mean that has to happen
Remove the condescension, tweak the wording and formatting a little and it becomes an ok answer. Nothing great but still ok
 
gnat
gnat
@RhysW gee your analysis make me feel I'll end picking no buttons. :) "Nothing great but still ok" => neither up nor down. Will see if it's so after I re-read
 
RhysW
RhysW
@gnat I edited now its a little better again
Actually, not to toot my own horn, but I quite like it as an answer now...
 
gnat
gnat
11:42 AM
@RhysW all right, formatting made its point readable and really sensible. Wordsmithing for "why" announcement didn't hurt either, it started looking organically, not like meta-patch anymore (was pondering myself on how to transform it). Good work :)
 
RhysW
RhysW
Hehe, was edited with @jmac 's teachings in mind, hopefully the answerer agrees that it's 'better' now. I would rather teach how to use the site through example than telling him his answer is bad and he should feel bad. Hopefully i got that across
 
gnat
gnat
12:23 PM
^^^ migrated
 
Alex M.
Alex M.
neat!
 
RhysW
RhysW
@gnat Awesome, will give it an upvote to get the ball rolling
Its got some good answers already too
glad we claimed this one :P
thanks @gnat for doing that
 
gnat
gnat
@RhysW you're welcome. hope @Chad won't object this time (though one never knows:)
 
RhysW
RhysW
@gnat hehe it seems workplace related. The issue isnt with the app store, its with managing client expectations about a deadline they cant control
gah, you beat me to editing that question!
 
gnat
gnat
@RhysW couldn't resist when I saw it's untagged :)
 
RhysW
RhysW
12:33 PM
Hah you can have your title and tag edit, ill throw a content edit on it too
Step 1: Don't quit via email, organize a meeting with your superior if you can
also, new word proposal, 'formal mail' becomes 'formail' :P
 
enderland
enderland
1:14 PM
@RhysW hell yeah!
@RhysW voted
 
Chad
Chad
1:56 PM
@gnat I did not object to the first one... I was merely suggesting how it could be improved to make it more acceptable to the rest of the community
 
gnat
gnat
@Chad I am disappointed. I was hoping you to explode and send some crap to migrate to Programmers in revenge. Where's the fun? :)
 
Chad
Chad
@gnat I could I love going off on programmers... kind of disappointed that we havent had any bad migrations to bitch about lately
 
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