The Water Cooler

8:37 AM

Are delete votes a privilege further on into reputation?

@Twyxz yep

can't remember the exact amount required though

workplace.stackexchange.com/help/deleted-questions

it's between 5000-10000

10000

thanks @snow

Q: Offensive coworker on an online game

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I am a fresh out of college student and a huge gamer. I recently got a job towards the end of this summer and met my team, which consists of a number of people who are in their late 50s. As I am a huge gamer, I just go home after work and play online games or watch people play. I decided to play ...

coworker

^ I'm going to have to stay out of that one

otherwise I'm going to get myself in trouble

It seems fairly obvious what the issue is there. Then again, there's no real excuse for that kind of retaliatory abuse.

8:54 AM

@Snow yep.. no excusing the content of the co-worker's response. But I don't have any sympathy for pathetic bullies who whine when their target does something they don't like.

@Snow There are no good people in that question

OP is a massive git for doing that and hurling racial abuse is also bad

The major gaming platforms have abuse systems in place for this kind of stuff.

If I was OP I'd refrain from going to HR because HR too dislikes massive gits

it made me have a little bit of a laugh none the less

Neither of the participants on that post would have done anything in real life but it was over the internet they can just complain to others about it

I mean OP didn't get an answer he would've liked but hey is what it is, don't be stupid

tbh though all jokes aside as HR I would take a very dim view on a new coworker admitting to cyberstalking and targeted harassment of a senior colleague

9:21 AM

well

He stumbled upon the senior's stream

There's people who stream snipe streamers all the time and in fact twitch (big streaming platform) have no problem with it

but obviously you can't expect them to take it well when they're being constantly and unfairly outplayed

Then go ahead to plan on taking it to HR because 1) It'll make you look silly 2) senior will find out it was you

9:37 AM

I wonder what kind of response this guy expected when he asked this question. Obviously, it's going to hit HNQ and get lots of views. But realistically speaking, he can't really expect much in the way of confirmation in attempting to throw someone under a bus like this (even if he did get trolled into throwing abuse).

9:53 AM

Who knows, he basically said I trolled a guy into rage and now can't take the response

what did he expect to happen

Haha great fun I've just died 250 times to the same guy

I just don't do online games; I just prefer the standalone games.

10:10 AM

morning fellas

Good morning. And congrats on the job offer.

thanks @Snow . Still in limbo of to get contract or perm.

contract = save money, no pain hols and its "OK" rate

perm = can't safe money, paid hols. same rate

paid not pain *

@Snow Singleplayer game literally numb my brain into mush, I'm pretty sure I play games for the competitiveness rather than enjoyment hahaha :/

@Nofel I haven't kept up with the rest of the conversation but why can't you save money on perm

contractors have a higher day rate than permies. mostly.

10:28 AM

If you can't save money you either need to find a better paid job or lower your costs surely

speaking of which Is it a time to talk about day rate>

@Nofel what do you mean?

or something like "if i am going to be perm, will my annually wage change"

contracting you can barely save money either though? Does it not mean when you take your holidays you'll have to spend what you have saved anyway

@Nofel As snow said, Contractors tend to have higher pay?

@Snow its 108 PD

10:31 AM

Dunno what others experiences are like, but I work in the UK. As an employee I get 1 day of holiday for every 11 days I work, since my contracting rate is almost double my perm rate, contracting means much better holidays for me.

I am happy, pays my bills, we dont have anything but I think i am to blame, I cannot focus on myself to be better. but I talked to recruiter who is on same floor and told him what I am doing n in 6-12 yrs I will worth 300-400 PD if i focus on myself.

@TolMera in order for me to save money for hols I need to pay off my debts or have a good pay but I m happy given 3 months on unemployment and I know i am not good, i was in company which was behind and pulled me behind as well. so now I am place where I can do what I want to and use new tech while i also study them and it is growing company and I see myself forming a team as well in there

Fair enough

10:51 AM

Do I waste 2 hours flexi to leave early and start my relaxation and holiday early or do I just stick it out

I'm too excited to get away

11:29 AM

@RoryAlsop a refreshingly cool day here is around 27 degrees C. I'd be bundled up like an Eskimo over there.

lol

we had 6C this morning

@Kilisi 27 C is a heat wave over here.. it's basically headline news

If you're in the UK @motosubatsu seeing the sun is classed as a heatwave

@Twyxz true! either that or it's time for someone to log a ticket with cloud maintainence

it could be minus 1 degrees and people would go mad because the suns out

11:44 AM

@Twyxz yup.. we've all seen "that guy" who has to wear shorts if the sun is out regardless of temp

I grew up in Micronesia which is much hotter than here, I don't acclimatise to cold for a long time, more than a holidays worth anyway.

Lol that guy is my manager

well my mentor

He wears cargo shorts with a shirt

@Twyxz he has good taste then

@Kilisi is your profile picture you?

If so then I can 100% imagine you wearing the same outfit as my mentor

yep, thats me, I don't look like that anymore though, lots more tattoos

but cargo shorts and shirt are good practical wear (Y)

11:56 AM

also pre-congratulations on 100k since I'm going away and no doubt you'll be there by the time I return

cheers, no idea how I got to 99... ahaha

@Kilisi I'm the exact opposite. my favorite temperature is ~10C

Cool enough that I can wear more then one layer of clothes and warm enough that you don't freeze going outside or need a heater

I straight up don't have a favourite temperature because i'd get bored of each one eventually

If it were always hot/cold I wouldn't want to go on holiday to similar locations and have something to look foward to

Rory Alsop

@motosubatsu that's me! If I'm not in a suit I'm in shorts and t-shirt for about 10 months of the year

12:18 PM

@Magisch depends what I'm doing, I used to enjoy working every winter in NZ forests in any weather because I'm active all the time and warm. But over here my server room is too cold for long periods because of the aircon.... on holiday I don't tend to be particularly active most of the time, and thats when the cold gets me most.

My wardrobe consists of uniform black tshirts and various jackets

And one SE tshirt

at 27 C I would wear two layers, tshirt under a shirt

but I pretty much wear that whatever the heat at work.

I'm lucky to work in an office with absolutely zero dresscode

So a tshirt or tshirt with jacket and jeans works

a tshirt with nothing or jacket and jeans hmmmm

interesting @Magisch

So ( (a tshirt) or (a tshirt with jacket) ) and ( jeans )

12:27 PM

Hahaha I know I know :/

t-shirt, jeans & trainers (sneakers in yank-speak) in my current client's office - except when I'm visiting the manufacturing site when I need to wear PPE so have to add a super-stylish hi-vis jacket, hard hat and steel-toecap boots.

+1 for style points

1:39 PM

@Twyxz it gets worse - if you don't have steel-capped boots of your own the loaners are steel capped wellies :D Everyone only wears those once before they go out and buy their own boots

1:50 PM

HAhahhaha it's like PE in school

Remember your kit or use someone elses sloppy shorts

You'll never forget that bag again

@Twyxz indeed.. although that said I used my boots at home over the weekend and managed to leave them there - I'm hoping there's no cause for me to go to the other site today!

(Sitting here in silence waiting for @motosubatsu to get called over)

IDrinkandIKnowThings

2:12 PM

gm all

@Twyxz shh!

@IDrinkandIKnowThings afternoon :)

2:33 PM

I'm just waiting here until someone gets me a biscuit for breakfast. Where's my biscuit?!?!

@Snow you need yourself a junior staff member.. I'd suggest one who is 18 and "attractive" and of your preferred gender(s).

Presumably their innate attractiveness makes the biscuit tastier

I don't think "gender" has a plural form... just saying

@TolMera gender (countable and uncountable, plural genders)

oh and I'm somewhat surprised that Q was closed as "unclear", I'm not saying it was the best worded question ever or one that's going to go down as a classic but it's certainly clear enough

I think it just smells of being contrived to hit HNQ.

I feel somewhat served lol :)

2:42 PM

@Snow a possibility I'll admit.. but whatever happened to "assume good intent"?

@TolMera <mic drop />

:D

3:12 PM

I got an odd spam email this morning. It just said "URGENT: Kindly respond to my email of Friday". No embedded links, no nothing. I guess it's just wanting me to respond with "What email?" and sting me from there.

4:13 PM

Morning everyone

@Snow huh... odd...

Morning Gary!

or Afternoon in Civilized Parts(TM)

sup @motosubatsu

Know what guys, today I am one year older than yesterday :)

@DarkCygnus it's the glue factory for you!

4:47 PM

If I say I need to work from home, and also leave early, does that sound suspicious?
Neither is frowned upon, by itself in our workplace, but I'm just wondering about the combination.

5:19 PM

If you leave early I take it you are going home to work @NotThatGuy

It's "early" in the sense that it's an hour before the end of the official office hours, but I plan on making up for that by starting earlier and taking a shorter lunch.

I mean work from home the whole day, and then leave early (we have a meeting which I can attend remotely, so working from home is not an excuse to miss that).
Ok, "leave" might not have been the best choice of words - I just mean stop working.

5:52 PM

now I'm confused lol :/ @NotThatGuy

so, you are working from home, and also stop working a bit earlier than the official hours

How do they know you stopped working earlier?

6:12 PM

@DarkCygnus Because I have a meeting around the end of the day, which I'll miss (not because I'm working from home, but because I'll stop working early).

does this happen often or is it just a few times that have happened lately @NotThatGuy

It will be the first time.

@NotThatGuy oh... then I would not worry at all about it... just try not to make a habit of it

and if it is because some valid reason I suggest you inform your boss before finishing earlier

It's for an interview, so I'll just be somewhat vague with the reason, which shouldn't be a problem if it doesn't sound suspicious to begin with.

hmmm

well technically you have to "run some errands" and also because "personal reasons"

You could also take a day off...

but, again @NotThatGuy why not ask on the main site?

6:28 PM

Because my question is "does it sound suspicious" (opinion-based), not "how should I handle it"

how should would also be off topic :/

but I'm sure you can phrase it in a way that it can be posted

like focusing on effective and professional ways of leaving early for an interview

or ways for asking for such to your boss

Meh, it's pretty much this then: workplace.stackexchange.com/questions/89716/…

Well, then you already have some good answers to consider :)

It's hard to find motivation to work sometimes. There are just boring tasks to do...

... and I'm sort of uncertain about what I'm supposed to do
... and the best person to ask is on leave
... and the temperature control in the office sucks
... and I'm lazy
... and I'm probably also distracted by the beautiful girl sitting nearby

6:45 PM

@NotThatGuy play your fav song and code along :)

8:20 PM

hi all! we have a question on IPS that the user wanted to migrate over: interpersonal.stackexchange.com/questions/18768/… - wanted to get some local opinions on whether that looks ok for your site before I do anything?

hey @EmC

checking it out

@DarkCygnus cool, thanks :)

@EmC seems fit for TWP... I would suggest perhaps cutting down the details a bit, as it is more story than actual question. Also, the "is this wrong" I fear is off topic everywhere on SE... however, there is a valid question down there. I also suggest rephrasing the core question so it sounds less opinion-based

Not that it's not answerable, as it is highly answerable, but people here are a bit trigger happy when casting VTCs

@DarkCygnus good point, I'll see about editing the "is this wrong" part first

Perhaps using "reasonable" instead of wrong

already have an answer in my mind for that post if you migrate it :) feel free to ping me if you want to give another round of proofreading

8:32 PM

Ok, so something like "Is it reasonable for us to eat outside, apart from the other employees?"

yeah or

"Is it reasonable for her to expect us to eat lunch with them every time?"

or just "Is it reasonable to expect us..."

@EmC It has 4 opinion-based closed votes, and The Workplace isn't more accepting of opinion-based questions than IPS is.

Also, answering if it is reasonable or not, IMHO, lacks a bit of a goal... a more productive question would be "How can we politely and professionally turn down her request to do groceries/eat with them every time"

yeah that is IPS's problem with it too ;)

@EmC still, I am sure it's better fit for TWP than for IPS

I see your edit, after migration users here can tailor it further if needed

8:37 PM

sometimes it seems the context of being in the workplace seems to make a question answerable here vs. there but, that's why I asked before migrating, since I've never been super active here