Minecraft Talk

4:11 PM

@user193319 No, burning consumes items, doesn't drop them.

Burning can be useful to clear out an unwanted jungle or something, but no, you won't get the goods.

@goodguy5 I'm playing Sky Factory 4 at the moment. Good so far; although a lot different than I'm used to (no EnderIO, no sifting, no storage drawers!!)

goodguy5

@BradC Yea, the no storage drawers was weird, but make sure you look into the filing cabinets.

BradC

@goodguy5 yeah, that looks like the way to go; although getting resources in and out of them is pretty darn annoying.

goodguy5

simple storage network

BradC

Haven't yet tackled what to use for pipes/tubes/item transport; that's when I'll really start missing item conduits from EnderIO.

goodguy5

filing cabinet + simple storage network = happiness

BradC

4:18 PM

@goodguy5 Yep, that seems like the route to go; kind of a shame that using file cabinets by themselves is so annoying. But (near) limitless storage kind of makes up for it

No more emerald drawer upgrades!

goodguy5

And the filing cabinets, imo, make the crates and barrels almost useless

BradC

@goodguy5 Yeah, I looked into it a bit, and crates and barrels aren't even a meaningful improvement over normal chests, hardly

Sadly missing my compacting drawers, though, I lived for them

goodguy5

Well, the storage upgrades are good, and void upgrade

BradC

(compacting cobble chain, blocks, ingots, and nuggets of all metals available at all times, etc)

goodguy5

I use crates and barrels for water, lava, cobble, and oak wood.

@BradC You can use the ..... it might be called a compactor?

it's a like... teal crafting table looking thing.

BradC

4:21 PM

@goodguy5 Right, but that's a one-time action, right? Like ingots in, blocks out?

goodguy5

With the processing links, you can almost automate that sort of thing.

It's pretty cludgy, though,

BradC

Having a compacting drawer in a storage array makes all versions available at all times.

goodguy5

oh yea, I know.

It's not perfect

BradC

yep. I'm not all that far along, just getting all my sapling types finished

goodguy5

but If you set up your SSN decently early on, it'll comfortably carry you until you get your ME system set up

That's the best time to start

That's my biggest regret, so far, I think, is not taking more time to properly organize my situation before I got everything set up

And the Cyclic wireless transmitters are your best friend.

BradC

4:24 PM

yeah, my tiny island is a big mess; hardly room to walk. If I decide to do a lets-play I'll lay things out much more deliberately

goodguy5

I'm right on the cusp of switching from SSN to ME system

But I'm dreading it

Are you doing the prestige point mode?

BradC

@goodguy5 Not on my current runthrough; I started before I watched the lets play by the creator

You?

goodguy5

oh no, and I'm glad.

Kind of watching Chosen Architect play through it on prestige point mode, and what a pain.

I mean, he's basically past the point where it's bothersome, now, but it slows down the early game immensely

BradC

I think having to learn a whole new system for resources (saplings and pigs) is hard enough

goodguy5

yea

The early game is already slow enough, I don't need to add 10 hours to my playtime just because.

grinding != challenge

BradC

4:30 PM

Vein miner is only crucial for things like mining in the nether. Really not super central in a skyblock world

goodguy5

the leaves and logs

until you can get the hopping bonsais set up, which are also prestige locked

BradC

Yeah, helpful, but not indispensable. Unless you wanted to harvest giant rubber trees or something (which I have no idea if they're in the pack or not).

goodguy5

I did have an oak do the extra large growth, and was happy to vein mine it

BradC

And at this point I have more wood than I know what to do with

goodguy5

I've been considering making an auto charcoal generator

bonsai --> sticks, saplings, and leaves go into the fuel part
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wood goes into the cook slot --> Charcoal comes out

BradC

4:34 PM

that seems like it would work well. And then charcoal just as needed for furnaces? Or to fuel a specific generator?

goodguy5

to fuel a charcoal generator lol

Or "solid fuel" whatever it's called

but my biofuel generators are doing pretty well, so I doubt I'll mess with it in the foreseeable future.

BradC

cool. I haven't gotten into any power yet

goodguy5

Remember what I said. Wireless Transfer Nodes.

You can make your power generation area in one location and just teleport the power to your machines, as needed

BradC

So the other day I was musing more about the very beginning of the game, and wondering if I could make lava with a wood cauldron or if I need a brick or stone one

well, turns out you can make lava in a wood cauldron

goodguy5

haha. I wondered that too and I wasn't sure

BradC

4:39 PM

also, you can light your island on fire

goodguy5

awesome!

oh ... yea

BradC

:O

goodguy5

less awesome

BradC

So if you have cobble to put IN the cauldron, then you should be able to easily make a cobble or stone cauldron

goodguy5

btw, cabinets can be set side-by-side.

BradC

4:40 PM

(which... melting cobble in a cobble cauldron seems wrong somehow, but it works)

goodguy5

eh you can also have a glass cauldron, so, idk

BradC

You get clay before sand. Brick cauldron is what I made the first time though

goodguy5

Same, I think

BradC

There is a super easy early-game dirt generator, though:

goodguy5

oh yea?

BradC

4:43 PM

You just need lots of leaves, a clay bucket, and one of those stomper things

goodguy5

oh yea lol

BradC

1. Stomp some leaves to get water, make an infinite water source

2. Fill a cauldron with water

3. Add a single dirt for mud

4. Add 4 leaves for 4 grass blocks!

goodguy5

yea

good times

BradC

5. Place and pick up a grass to turn it back to dirt (if you run out)

6. Then rinse and repeat

goodguy5

that pun tho

BradC

4:44 PM

lol, tru

goodguy5

You can apparently make potions in a cauldron, but I haven't tried it yet

BradC

Right now I'm overflowing with leaves.

goodguy5

Oh, I'm going to tell you this because it took me days to figure out. maybe you're more knowledgeable about these sorts of packs.

The cyclic cables can be rotated with the hammer and certain sides can be deactivated with a redstone torch

BradC

Yeah, I'll definitely use cabinets for my revised sapling farm. Right now I have only a handful of bonsais, I need to make a full set

goodguy5

It's called "Hammer", though it definitely looks like a wrench/spanner

BradC

4:47 PM

@goodguy5 Thanks, I'll try that when I get that far

Chosen Architect seems to really like the supplementary Tinker's stuff... when real tinkers isn't that much harder to make

And can't we just melt cobble and pour into ingot molds to get more?

We could easily have a huge normal tinker setup in the same time as he's playing around with all that tinker alloy combiner thingy

goodguy5

@BradC It's prestige locked

Now, granted, he could have spent the point, built his set up and respecced, but w/e

I actually just upgraded my smeltery from 4x4x3 to 5x5x4 last night

BradC

@goodguy5 Ah, didn't know it was locked

I should start a new world in prestige mode just so I understand what all those locked items are

goodguy5

the pickaxe is excavator

and I don't know what the red capsule thing is

BradC

what's the "expanded range" red/yellow arrow thingy? Is that mob fans and mob grinder?

goodguy5

yea, I think so

mob utils is the mod, I think

I built my mob farm with them and then forgot about it lol

BradC

5:03 PM

yeah, fans and mob grinder and upgrades is pretty necessary. Haven't built my farm yet, I'm curious to see what all the drops I get (don't spoil me)

goodguy5

youbetcha

BradC

I did just make a grinder and fans to chew up some chickens I spawned to get lots of feathers

goodguy5

ha, nice

I love the vanilla auto chicken setup.

BradC

spawning mobs via seeds is just kinda weird, but hey, it works

Ok, I'm going to lunch; see you later

goodguy5

have fun ^_^

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