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Q: X vs Y question (particular model)

belfordHow do we handle questions like this? Should I buy i5-5200U or i5-5250U? As mentioned by the author: Well, believe me, had I asked this in Super User, they would close this one immediately as "off-topic". They would consider it a shopping advice (which kind of it is) and they would clos...

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enderland
enderland
1:15 PM
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Q: Portable Headphone Amplifier/Splitter w/ Separate Volume Control

JamesMy wife and I have different noise-cancelling headphones that we prefer for air travel, but they are too quiet when connected to an iPad with a headphone splitter. I purchased a portable batter-powered splitter/amp, but the volume outputs are so different that we can't both comfortably hear. I ...

headphones amplifiers
This question is an XY question and is exactly why questions like that are bad
Are you only interested in using a standard headphone jack output? There are other options which may work, too, but you seem to be set on using a standard headphone jack output. It seems you are defining your solution criteria rather than the problem driving the criteria - you will get better answers if you explain the problem you want your hardware to solve. — enderland 5 secs ago
 
Adam
Adam
1:45 PM
We're getting a lot of strange questions lately.
 
Andy
Andy
Yeah, I've been thinking that too
I'm looking at this "can I get another video card one" and I'm not sure what I want to do with it
It really seems like a Yes/No question
 
Adam
Adam
That's what I thought of it too.
There's no information to work with besides computer specs so it could be left as too broad.
 
Andy
Andy
It's not asking for a recommendation or anything that leads to one. Just a simple, can I do it or not
I'm convinced. voting to close
 
Adam
Adam
I'm kinda bummed that the majority of the recent questions need to be closed. Doesn't really look great for us.
 
enderland
enderland
Closed questions are not bad, as long as they are off topic
Open, off topic questions? Those are bad
 
Andy
Andy
1:52 PM
Hey enderland. How's it going?
 
enderland
enderland
@Andy glad it's friday.. hahah
 
Andy
Andy
Me too.
21 hours ago, by Andy
Anyone have ideas on what that section should look like? I'm not in a word smithing mood right now (I've been writing documentation all morning)
That's related to your comment on the high quality questions post. Did you have any ideas for wording?
 
enderland
enderland
I tried writing somethign there when I made the comment, but had trouble getting a ncie wording
 
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2:15 PM
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Q: Updates to Tour - What to Ask/Not ask?

AndyOn our tour page we currently have the following: Ask about... Specific issues with hardware recommendations Real problems or questions that you’ve encountered Don't ask about... Anything not directly related to hardware recommendations Questions that are primarily opinion-based Questions ...

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Q: Updates to Tour - Community Description Blurb

AndyOn the tour page there is a brief description of the community that current reads: Hardware Recommendations Stack Exchange is a question and answer site for people seeking specific hardware recommendations. It's built and run by you as part of the Stack Exchange network of Q&A sites. With you...

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3:59 PM
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Q: Communication with other sites about what is on topic

AndyWe've started to receive traffic from other sites (Super User in particular). No, on superuser they said I had to ask it here. So I did that. And that is excactly what I want to know if I shoud buy it or not with my current setup. I don't understand why this is off-topic - Can I run anothe...

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Andy
Andy
And with that, I think I'm out of Meta questions for the morning
 
ArtOfCode
ArtOfCode
@Andy That's enough for anyone...
Working on an answer to the last.
 
enderland
enderland
I feel like I should pull my mod acceptance, you guys are doing so much better work for this site than me ;)
 
ArtOfCode
ArtOfCode
@enderland That's not necessarily a reason to pull. If you take a look at the voting on the nominations, it gets interesting.
And yes, the voting isn't supposed to have much bearing - but given two equal candidates, one highly upvoted and the other heavily downvoted, SE are going to pick the upvoted one.
 
enderland
enderland
Bah I no longer have enough rep to see votecounts :(
Haha
 
ArtOfCode
ArtOfCode
4:07 PM
@enderland I do :D
Though you can get votecounts without the rep.
The AJAX URL isn't protected.
 
enderland
enderland
Yeah
 
Andy
Andy
It's in the API too, if you are so inclined to go that route.
 
ArtOfCode
ArtOfCode
Damn it, I need 4 more rep to get over 1000.
And there's a +10. Thanks, whoever that was.
 
Cfinley
Cfinley
@ArtOfCode Should be good now
The more people with 1000+ rep, the better
 
ArtOfCode
ArtOfCode
Aye. Editors are useful.
Go ahead and suggest all your edits, we now have 2 edit reviewers.
@Undo is looking pretty likely for mod
 
Andy
Andy
4:22 PM
@ArtOfCode, has OS done any user education about what's on topic or have you kept it at the mod level?
I know programmers uses this to watch comments. I'm curious how effective it is.
 
enderland
enderland
@Andy very, very effective
 
Andy
Andy
Awesome!
 
enderland
enderland
People post "belongs on programmers.SE" all the time on Stack Overflow, and nearly always it doesn't
 
ArtOfCode
ArtOfCode
@Andy We haven't needed to, yet.
Our own users know the scope, obviously, and that takes care of most things.
 
Andy
Andy
So you guys are dealing with it as the questions arrive, not before? Fair enough. It does help if your users know what's on/off topic.
 
enderland
enderland
4:33 PM
That bot is helpful since users on Stack Overflow always suggest P.SE (it's not in the migration path thankfully) incorrectly
 
Andy
Andy
My interactions on P.SE are limited to a single question. I imagine they'd be unhappy with a migration path though, based on how often the comment appears
Hi. Yes I am trying to make a bluetooth speaker connect to my computer. The speaker has bluetooth capability but it only connects to my smartphone (Motorola or samsung or any other smartphone) but not my Personal Desktop Computer. I am already using a bluetooth Dongle like the one shown above. While it sometimes does detect the speaker it provides no functionality to the speaker. — Svetsi 5 mins ago
 
enderland
enderland
@ArtOfCode I'm not sure how to get this to work :) now that I'm curious about it. lol
It looks like there is a custom id attached to each request:
 
Andy
Andy
If I refer him to SU, is that on topic? I don't know what SU does/does not support
 
ArtOfCode
ArtOfCode
@enderland Go the API route, it'll be easier.
 
enderland
enderland
@ArtOfCode I'm not sure why I'm curious about this, more of a nerd sniping than anything else...
 
ArtOfCode
ArtOfCode
4:35 PM
@Andy Go ask an SU mod. They've got a chatroom for that, or use TL.
 
Cfinley
Cfinley
@Andy That would be on topic at SU.
 
ArtOfCode
ArtOfCode
@enderland Heh. There's also a userscript on Stack Apps, if you want a pre-rolled solution.
 
enderland
enderland
that's cheating. I'm surprised by the downvotes on candidates tbh, no explanations are given yet a lot of people have multiple DVs
 
Andy
Andy
Let's all assume we are just too awesome and people didn't want to be in the presence of that much awesomeness.
2
 
ArtOfCode
ArtOfCode
@enderland I think I'm on 4 downvotes? Something like that.
 
Undo
Undo
4:44 PM
@ArtOfCode I don't see why, it's not like I'm particularly active
This darn sickness
 
ArtOfCode
ArtOfCode
@Undo Aye, but +12/-0? Impressive.
 
Undo
Undo
I thought I had a downvote or two mixed in there. But I'll take -0 :P
@ArtOfCode Really? I always thought the API was the only way to go
 
ArtOfCode
ArtOfCode
I... don't know. You might, maybe not.
 
enderland
enderland
@Undo I think it is
You get unique links like this - workplace.stackexchange.com/posts/55315/… - which are only viewable if you are logged in
 
ArtOfCode
ArtOfCode
@Undo I assumed there's an AJAX URL. Seems likely, I doubt the SE web interface would want to go through an API when they could just put in a much faster method.
 
Undo
Undo
4:46 PM
There is, but I don't know if it's protected
SE is good at this
yep. http://softwarerecs.stackexchange.com/posts/###/vote-counts
It's protected
Returns blank if you don't have privs
Remarkably thorough.
 
ArtOfCode
ArtOfCode
Hmm, interesting. Wasn't protected last time I checked.
 
Cfinley
Cfinley
Welp. I am now 2 for 2 candidates declining my nomination for moderator.
 
ArtOfCode
ArtOfCode
@Cfinley You're whatty?
 
Undo
Undo
@ArtOfCode Both people he nominated have declined
 
ArtOfCode
ArtOfCode
Ah. Of course, that would make sense. ME NO ENGLISH UNDERSTAND GOOD.
 
Undo
Undo
4:52 PM
engrish
 
Cfinley
Cfinley
ME NO RITE GOOD ENGRISH
 
Undo
Undo
 
ArtOfCode
ArtOfCode
> Thanks and sorry for me EngRish.
 
Undo
Undo
sounds like a skin disease. Engrash.
 
Cfinley
Cfinley
5:11 PM
I feel like I will become a buffer for SU and HR questions.
 
Adam C
Adam C
5:45 PM
and now I have remembered that engrish.com exists
thanks for that
 
Adam
Adam
@ArtOfCode Good to see you way up here in the 1000s finally ;)
 
ArtOfCode
ArtOfCode
@Adam Good to be here.
 
Adam
Adam
I'm thinking we should really get on that help center stuff.
Would help a whole lot in commenting on bad questions
 
ArtOfCode
ArtOfCode
@Adam Aye, could do with some mods first though.
 
Adam C
Adam C
I would volunteer, but I have never been a mod on an SE site - I do not already know where the shiny buttons are :)
 
Adam
Adam
5:54 PM
I volunteered and I've never been a mod.
 
Cfinley
Cfinley
Same here
 
Andy
Andy
Not to completely derail the topic, but I just realized there are two @Adam users. I am sorry if I've confused one of you for the other. :\
 
Adam
Adam
Just remember to use that C at the end if you don't want to summon me.
 
ArtOfCode
ArtOfCode
@AdamC @Adam - I was never a mod, about 2 months ago. Volunteered, got picked, now know where the shiny buttons are.
 
Adam
Adam
I'm stuck in the deep dark depths with +7/-4
 
Cfinley
Cfinley
5:58 PM
I think im somewhere in that range as well
 
ArtOfCode
ArtOfCode
@Adam 'S not that far below others
 
Adam
Adam
@Cfinley you have +5/-1
 
Cfinley
Cfinley
I thought I had more downvotes than that... Not that I am complaining.
Thanks
 
Adam
Adam
I'm currently leading the pack.
In dislikes.
 
Andy
Andy
Anyone want to help finish this one off?
1 hour ago, by Andy
Let's all assume we are just too awesome and people didn't want to be in the presence of that much awesomeness.
 
Adam
Adam
6:00 PM
@Andy Done.
Did we decide to reopen that weird tempest case question?
It still doesn't sit right with me.
 
Andy
Andy
It's clearer now at least. He wants a specific type of case
There is still some paranoid rambling in the question though
I tried to remove some of that rambling. I've added a comment too
Are you looking for a computer case that is TEMPEST proof or a room that is TEMPEST proof? Completely different things...and the viability of a case being TEMPEST proof is low (consider that you could use a smart phone to monitor keystrokes, or a monitor could be watched remotely). It seems like you are looking for a room that meets TEMPEST certification. Is this what you are asking? — Andy 1 min ago
 
enderland
enderland
6:23 PM
@Cfinley :P
@Cfinley also every time I see "HR" I think human resources, just saying
@ArtOfCode I assume this isn't good enough to make it on Open Source? programmers.stackexchange.com/q/298849/52929
 
Adam
Adam
On the "what to ask" tour page I think we need to clarify "information that will lead to a recommendation."
Do the information and the recommendation need to be in the same question, etc.
 
Adam C
Adam C
6:47 PM
man, I remember having to ask for a stack trace from the US DoD and finding out it was on an air-gapped computer in a secure room
the poor guys had to go in and transcribe it by hand
then come back and type that back into a ticket for us to look at
took them ~48 hours to get it to us, and we'd already fixed the issue in a later version, which they were already waiting for approval (for several months) to install
similar crash happened a couple weeks later (no upgrade yet), and generated a different trace, another 48 hours for transcription, and same root issue
 
ArtOfCode
ArtOfCode
7:11 PM
@enderland You'd be right. We don't do software recommendations, and I can't actually figure out what the guy wants anyway...
@Adam Nope, Gilles is on -6
 
Adam
Adam
@ArtOfCode Oh wow. Didn't even check the declined nominees.
 
ArtOfCode
ArtOfCode
@Adam You're next, I'm after that. But vote totals are what matters, really.
 
 
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enderland
enderland
10:10 PM
@ArtOfCode your question is probably going to end up closed FYI...
 
ArtOfCode
ArtOfCode
10:28 PM
@enderland Aye, I did wonder. Seemed on the border of might fly might not, so I just gave it a shot
 

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