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10:54 AM

Nice to know.

morning!

6 hours later…

4:33 PM

love this site. I just got a bit better with awk and solved a problem

I wonder what sort of reaction one would get from recruiters with a CV mentioning “5-star AWK”

me, reading the CV: "5 out of ... 5? 10?"

“AWK, what’s that short for? Awkwardness?”

reminds me of the geek code like "P+++++" == "I am Larry Wall, Tom Christiansen, or Randal Schwartz.", so you'd have to be Al, Peter, or Brian

@JeffSchaller yes, indeed, the geek code, I’d forgotten that!

4:49 PM

(cue the correlation with the "How to" book I just finished last night and generational markers)

I was just reading theguardian.com/society/commentisfree/2020/may/29/…

and the situation in the UK sounds worse than I thought.

> We know what it does to people who are sick enough to need to stay in hospital. For a start, it kills almost 40% of them, more if they are elderly.

What?

Speaking as someone who is still in the epicenter of India's epidemic, this doesn't make me any better.

These weren't the kind of statistics I was hearing from other places.

Yes, the stats on people going to hospital in the UK now are pretty dire

@StephenKitt You're Scottish, right? So I suppose you are in touch with people in the UK.

So the NHS is being overwhelmed?

We have our own troubles, obviously. But the death seems to be relatively low here.

The people I know in the NHS are in rather remote areas, not too affected (the Shetlands and Highlands), so I don’t have any information beyond what’s in the news

@StephenKitt I see.

death -> death rate, sorry.

@StephenKitt Are you familiar with the RLS novel Kidnapped? There's also a sequel.

5:00 PM

@FaheemMitha yup, Catriona

I read both a long time ago

@StephenKitt Right, Catriona.

I didn't (and don't) understand what that was about, but it seems to be connected to Scottish nationalism.

@FaheemMitha the Jacobite rising

@StephenKitt Right.

And also connected to those Catholic/Protestant issues which caused so many problems in Europe.

@FaheemMitha yes, indeed.

"Northern Conservative†Baptist Great Lakes Region Council of 1879, or Northern Conservative Baptist Great Lakes Region Council of 1912?" He said, "Northern Conservative Baptist Great Lakes Region Council of 1912." I said, "Die, heretic!" And I pushed him over."

5:13 PM

@JeffSchaller Is that relevant?

you said something about "religion" and "problems", so it made me think of religious intolerance

(which reminded me of a joke, which is what that links to)

@JeffSchaller I see.

@FaheemMitha what are those Catholic/Protestant issues?

@Tim As they say in book, thereby hangs a tale.

Have you heard of Guy Fawkes, for example?

never

5:18 PM

Remember, remember, the 5th of November

Gunpowder, treason and plot

@Tim I'm guessing you're not English, then.

Guy Fawkes tried to blow up the Houses of Parliament.

Do you mean catholic and protestants had conflicts?

Not recently, though. It's a fairly significant historical/cultural thing in the UK.

@Tim That's quite the understatement.

Do you mean they have conflicts?

@Tim They did. I'm not sure about currently.

There's also the Troubles. At least part of that is Protestant/Catholic in origin.

But you should probably ask a European.

pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2016/02/23/…

I didn't know methodists are so conservative

I didn't know there are two kinds of Presbyterians

I didn't know there are three kinds of Baptists

There are also two kinds of methodists

5:40 PM

Church of God, Churches of Christ, United Church of Christ, and Church of God in Christ are different

2 hours later…

Protestantism in the United States

7:48 PM

I found this wikipedia article enlightening

Protestantism is the largest grouping of Christians in the United States with its combined denominations collectively accounting for about 43% of the country's population or 141 million people in 2019. Simultaneously, this corresponds to around 20% of the world's total Protestant population. America has the largest number of Protestants of any country in the world. Baptists account for about one third of American Protestants. The Southern Baptist Convention is the largest single Protestant denomination in the United States with one-tenth of American Protestants. Twelve out of the original Thirteen...

I have gradually realized the differences between different denominations or branches.

websites of some churches don't tell which denominations or branches they belong to

8:02 PM

I found the categorization of evangelical and mainline is particularly helpful

I think the differences between denominations, between branches, or between mainline vs. evangelical are all small, if compared to atheists.

I am an atheist, or an ignorant of religion.

Do all of you have religions?

when talking to people of a branch and denomination, is it impolite to talk about other branches and denominations?

The wikipedia article says:

> The mainline or mainline Protestant Christian denominations are those Protestant denominations that were brought to the United States by its historic immigrant groups; for this reason they are sometimes referred to as heritage churches.[24] The largest are the Episcopal (English), Presbyterian (Scottish), Methodist (English and Welsh), and Lutheran (German and Scandinavian) churches.

I saw a methodist church's website says it was found by Swedish

> Episcopalians and Presbyterians tend to be considerably wealthier[31] and better educated than most other religious groups in Americans,[32] and are disproportionately represented in the upper reaches of American business,[33] law and politics, especially the Republican Party.[34] Numbers of the most wealthy and affluent American families as the Vanderbilts and Astors, Rockefeller, Du Pont, Roosevelt, Forbes, Whitneys, Morgans and Harrimans are Mainline Protestantism families.[31]

I saw a Presbyterian church chapel and a Catholic church chapel, both spectacular, stand on the exact opposite sides of a street. I was wondering if and how they communicate with each other

8:40 PM

Do any of you go to church or have religion? If yes, which one?

8:50 PM

I know Kusalananda's religon is Buddism. :)