I don't see how anyone could answer why choice X was never as popular as choice Y. We'd have to do marketing surveys. I really don't understand why it was reopened.
My point is, there are a list of obvious reasons why Debian isn't as popular as Windows. And likely most people would come up with similar reasons. So, it isn't that subjective, I guess, is what I'm trying to say.
@FaheemMitha but there is no need to. The root of the issue is that most windows users don't know about Linux. None of the other reasons you can think of matter to people who don't even know it exists and that is the majority I'd wager.
the problem of "why replacement of X didn't replace X?" is just a matter of user usage. The users simply didn't wanted to change, hence developers and maintainers didn't either.
@terdon I wasn't really going for infinite regress here. One can easily find pragmatic reasons why each of those make Debian a hard sell. One could also followup by noting that Ubuntu is much more popular then Debian. Why? By weakening/diluting those issues.
@FaheemMitha Yes, but it's very hard to know them. Plus, info is still around and kicking. The OP believes it to be less popular but it's still here. People do use it.
@casey Because of marketing. And reduced emphasis on Free Software. And they've also pushed back the tech difficulty thing (or attempted to) with their GUI crap. See?
I'd argue the second point. Debianites will be fast to make that claim, but a lot of ubuntu users that came from windows through canonicals marketting don't have a clue about software freedom. They didn't make the choice because of that
1. Users didn't think they needed the change 2. Developers already had tools to make man page creation easy 3. info wasn't widespread enough as man is 4. man just works 5. info seems cranky, doesn't behave the same as man does (learning curve) 6. generating info page is more painful than man page
Point is, all of @Braiam's reasons could be true. Or none. Or a combination of them. Or something else entirely. Nobody knows since the question boils down to "why did a very large group of people prefer one tool over another" and that's not answerable.
@FaheemMitha But it's equally valid as any other since there is no evidence to base an answer on. Therefore, everything will be speculation and so pretty much equally valid.
@terdon i don't see why is hypothetical about it. the question is about why info didn't take off. it's demonstrably true that it didn't take off. though it is still used, though mostly by the gnu project
@FaheemMitha Yes, it didn't take off so much but why? You can only answer that by taking a poll of several hundred *nix users.
@FaheemMitha Yes, "man just works, why change?" is a perfectly valid reason. For all I know, that's why most people don't use info. That kind of sums up why I don't use it for example.
If you guys are concerned about being overrun by idiots asking what-if type questions, I guess that is a valid point, though I'd submit there are many ways and many sorts of bad questions.
@terdon Well, info is an improvement. for one thing, you don't have to have one huge page, you have hyperlinks...
And the community has voted. I'm not going to bring in the mod hammer but if I were not a mod, I would most certainly have voted to close again as soon as that reopened.
@FaheemMitha no, the argument would be "I've been running windows for 10 years and never seen the supposed BSOD I see photoshopped by linux zealots all the time" :)
@FaheemMitha Sure it does. I'm sure you'll find some idiot who believes that. Since neither answer will come accompanied with detailed statistics, it will be very hard to refute.
Ok, here's one example. Now, as I noted in chat, I could think of a couple of reasons about the "why's" something happened instead of something else. All of them are sound, and even logical, yet none is definitive and I could even be wrong about it. So, it boils down to "what everyone thinks abou...
The answer does not really fit the Q&A format as used on SO, as the previous answers have pointed out.
There are other sites on the SE network where such question might be asked. A similar (but not equal) question has already been asked on Programmers (see What does SVN do better than git?).
Ho...
not quite what you were asking, but not so far off either
@Braiam that title made me immediately think it was going to be about Wayland or Mir though
I should get Gilles in here. He voted to reopen (was the 5th and final vote). But he is probably busy trying to be in 10 places at once. Either that, or asleep.
Can I also move or copy directory hierarchy of a file when I mv or cp the file?
For example, if I mv or cp dir1/dir2/file elsewhere, it will only mv or cp file. What if I want to also mv or cp dir1/dir2? Rather than mkdir -p dir1/dir2, can it be done with one command?
I have a folder structure with a bunch of *.csv files scattered across the folders. Now I want to copy all *.csv files to another destination keeping the folder structure.
it works using:
cp --parent *.csv /target
cp --parent */*.csv" /target
cp --parent */*/*.csv /target
cp --parent */*/*/*.cs...
I typically have a directory where I want all users to be able to browse through but not necessarily give them read and execution access on the files as well.
I see some related questions that do not exactly match what I want:
This question is using umask. Doesn't apply since these files are a...
if you run those urls through vlc via cmd line you can see that they redirect like this:
[0x7f05a400add8] access_mms access error: error: HTTP/1.1 403 Forbidden [0x7f05bc0061c8] main input error: open of `http://r14---sn-vgqsen7z.googlevideo.com/videoplayback?ip=67.253.170.83&key=yt5&itag=22&sver=3&gcr=us&mime=video%2Fmp4&sparams=gcr%2Cid%2Cinitcwndbps%2Cip%2Cipbits%2Citag%2Cmime%2Cmm%2Cms%2Cmv%2Cratebypass%2Csource%2Cupn%2Cexpire&fexp=900064%2C907257%2C916941%2C927622%2C930666%2C931983%2C932404%2C934030%2C936222%2C946013%2C947209%2C952302%2C953801&id=o-AARBBnxoxL-bpAxrqr5izINpr1v348ftaVT8MlDsSNn-&initcwndbps=1192500&source=youtube&mm=31&ipbits=0&expire=1412885153&ratebypass=ye…
the youtube-dl has be constantly updated
if you're using an older version do youtube-dl -U
there appears to be some cat/mouse game that google plays w/ the urls
Well I'd take a look at how youtube-dl is able to stream content to a file, it's in python so you should be able to see what they do, I'd still use them as a frontend and just have them stream the content to your app instead
doubt it, the ascii is via mplayer, perhaps you could send that output from mplayer to stdout and then have a shell listening on that /dev to receive it, but I have no time to invest in this further now
You can download videos and/or just the audio and then watch/listen to them using youtube-dl. The script is written in Python and makes use of ffmpeg I believe.
$ youtube-dl --help
Usage: youtube-dl [options] url [url...]
Options:
General Options:
-h, --help print th...
I've got:
A host system running Ubuntu with KVM (functional)
Two clients, one Ubuntu and one Windows 7, nothing fancy.
I've also setup (see below) a bridge via br0 for the clients:
br0: 192.168.2.1 (with DHCP running)
eth0 -> br0
tap0 -> br0
tap1 -> br0
br0 can give IP to the clients, the...
I feel overwhelmed with the amount of info I have in hand now :) I believe the answer lies somewhere deeply buried in the list of links you have given so far.
@Ramesh - yes, you'll have to play to figure it out. But I think what you seek is there, you just need to wrap your head around it. I look forward to your A 8-)
Proposal: Vi/Vim
We recently launched an Emacs site, and the Vi/Vim community quickly followed to have a site of their own. The show of support here was nothing short of amazing. It weighed heavily in our evaluation of this site, but we ultimately decide not to split off Vi/Vim from Stack Overfl...
> The guidelines are intended to provide guidance to the authors of future utilities, such as those written specific to a local system or that are components of a larger application. Some of the standard utilities do not conform to all of these guidelines; in those cases, the OPTIONS sections describe the deviations.
@Gilles "standard utilities and introduces terminology used throughout IEEE Std 1003.1-2001". it only applies to utilities defined within POSIX, not outside
On a doorway in Dover I once stumbled over a programmer wrapped in a sheet. This poor prostrate nerd didn't utter a word as he lay there half-blocking the street. The DBA's Demise - a recitation 11 "From your face I can see that you work in IT what has brought you to this sorry state?" This poor wretched geek then started to speak and told me his terrible fate Cruel fortune had picked him, as sad deadlock victim. The conflict had left him for dead; for wise men don't mess with a deadlocked process
@shog9 suggested I put together a list of questions scattered around SE that would have been successful on a vim.se site. Part of the motivation for this is that it has been suggested:
The best argument for splitting off a topic is that there's no single site where the entirety of it is alrea...
The answer does not really fit the Q&A format as used on SO, as the previous answers have pointed out.
There are other sites on the SE network where such question might be asked. A similar (but not equal) question has already been asked on Programmers (see What does SVN do better than git?).
Ho...
I have a folder structure with a bunch of *.csv files scattered across the folders. Now I want to copy all *.csv files to another destination keeping the folder structure.
it works using:
cp --parent *.csv /target
cp --parent */*.csv" /target
cp --parent */*/*.csv /target
cp --parent */*/*/*.cs...
I typically have a directory where I want all users to be able to browse through but not necessarily give them read and execution access on the files as well.
I see some related questions that do not exactly match what I want:
This question is using umask. Doesn't apply since these files are a...
You can download videos and/or just the audio and then watch/listen to them using youtube-dl. The script is written in Python and makes use of ffmpeg I believe.
$ youtube-dl --help
Usage: youtube-dl [options] url [url...]
Options:
General Options:
-h, --help print th...
I've got:
A host system running Ubuntu with KVM (functional)
Two clients, one Ubuntu and one Windows 7, nothing fancy.
I've also setup (see below) a bridge via br0 for the clients:
br0: 192.168.2.1 (with DHCP running)
eth0 -> br0
tap0 -> br0
tap1 -> br0
br0 can give IP to the clients, the...
@shog9 suggested I put together a list of questions scattered around SE that would have been successful on a vim.se site. Part of the motivation for this is that it has been suggested:
The best argument for splitting off a topic is that there's no single site where the entirety of it is alrea...
