Who will be US's Jeremy Corbyn, and who will be UK's Bernie Sanders?

Q: A program has done dup2(x, y);. If I know y how can I get x with some programming? Though i can see x in /proc/N/fd/y -> x. Is there other way?

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Is this considered cross-posting???

If yes, I'll delete immediately.

If no response from me: feel free to delete yourself and ping me and tell me I'm a naughty boy.

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@Fabby Sorry, where's the cross-posting issue?

Ah, on Ask Ubuntu.

Yes, it's cross posting.

Hmm... What exactly is "git bash"?

People seem to use it on Windows and they use the term as if it's somehow different from regular bash.

@Kusalananda There is a Windows distribution of git with a mingw Bash in it with git in the path so they can use the CLI commands

@MichaelHomer Ah, ok. Thanks.

It's also a fairly popular way to get Unix tools, maybe more so than Cygwin now

@Kusalananda OK, deleting...

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@Kusalananda Thanks, but I don't understand how that would work. Does the separator have to be fixed, so it can be parsed? Apparently I knew something once, because I added that string myself. But I didn't leave myself any notes, and now I don't remember what the story was.

@FaheemMitha You probably had some data that were space-separated (multiple spaces between fields, more than 2), where each field also possibly contained spaces (but not more than two in a row).

@Kusalananda Yes, that seems accurate.

So Python/Pandas would be able to cope with that? I've no idea where I got this recipe from. I must have copied it from somewhere.

@FaheemMitha You know, I don't really do Python, and I only know pandas from having seen pictures of them.

@Kusalananda I hear Pandas are cute. I too have only seen pictures of them.

I think they do lock them up in zoos, which is a shame.

@Tim If you mean Boris Johnson, he's not technically a Trump. If you mean he's like Trump, then maybe so.

Actually, we don't have a lot of visible people from the UK on this site, for some reason. There's @StephenKitt, but he lives in France, I think.

UK here o/

Of course that's the first thing I've ever said in this chat, so... it doesn't prove anything.

@DavidS So, are people generally overjoyed with this Boris person?

I'm thousands of miles away, and he gives me the creeps.

I don't really take a major interest in politics, as Tim said, the internet just sort of force feeds you politics, but I never vote for any of the major parties anyway. I've heard more than one person comment that Boris is kind of what you get if you sent Trump to Eaton for his education.

But I think that's probably just a superficial observation, blonde haired twat with a posh accent. I don't know anyone who is enthusiastic about him becoming PM

It just seems like politicians are taking their cues from Twitter. :/

@DavidS From whatever text they read. In Trump's case, it's Twitter, Fox News and obviously various less wholesome web sites.

Yeah, the world is nuts at the mo.

At least we have *nix

@DavidS The British ruling classes have always been a fairly dire lot. It works out well for them as long as they has people to steal from, but that's kind of dried up.

@DavidS Eton?

yes sorry :D

Well, the international theft has kind of dried up. They might still be stealing from people domestically.

Yeah, I suppose we get what we can unless the US gets to it first.

@DavidS To be clear, I meant the rich stealing from the poor.

That's pretty much how it works everywhere, but some places are worse.

I don't really know about that. I've never experienced either afaik, safely middle-class.

I don't think the middle class is exempt. In this case, poor probably means everyone who isn't rich/privileged.

I'm sure you're right. I don't really know where my taxes are going, or who is dodging theirs or otherwise not paying their share. I also know people are on benefits because they can't be bothered to get a job like the rest of us. If I did some work for someone on the side, I can't say I'd be in a rush to give some of it to the government.

> I also know people are on benefits because they can't be bothered to get a job like the rest of us.

Whoah there! That's profoundly offensive.

I'm sure some people might be on benefits for that reason, but many simply cannot find a job. Getting a job isn't trivial. It requires physical ability, education, opportunity...

It isn't just a case of "if I want a job, I have one". Especially not in countries with serious unemployment rates.

@terdon I'm not saying everyone on benefits is lazy, but you can't tell me that's just false in 100% of cases.

@DavidS I know people on benefits that would do whatever it takes to not be on benefits. I also know people not on benefits that really ought to be, because they can't live the way they do. I also know rich people on benefits that are just trolling the system.

@DavidS You get all kinds, everywhere.

Absolutely, I'm not saying it's exclusive, I have a job and I'm lazy (luckily not that anyone else thinks so)

I expect the experience of being on benefits is different depending on the country you're in, in the UK you can be pretty comfortable, perhaps in the US it's real hardship.

Anyway, this is way off topic.

@DavidS For what it's worth, I live in the UK and @Kusalananda in Sweden. Neither of us is in the US :)

Noted :)

Well, I certainly didn't intend to insult anyone, so apologies.

@DavidS I think people have a tendency to hearken back to golden times when the people in charge of running the country (pretty much any country, really) were not some combination of criminal, lunatic, and idiot. But I kind of feel that there never was such a time. Which is not to say I am such a good student of history.

People are also, in general, not very good at seeing things in historical context. For a start, most people don't seem to know much history.

I think you're absolutely right on that count.

You almost have to be some combination of criminal, lunatic or idiot to want the job in the first place.

@FaheemMitha I agree, I don't know of any golden time, and the trend doesn't really give me much hope for it being ahead of us either.

printf 'rabble%.0s\n' {1..3}

@Jesse_b !! | sed s/a/u/

@JeffSchaller hah

@JeffSchaller !! | xargs -n1 echo barney

@Jesse_b !! | sed -e s/a/u/ -e s/y/d/

@JeffSchaller That's pretty metal

How are you doing @JeffSchaller? You find anyone to come pick up that tree?

@Jesse_b all fingers & toes intact. Back from vacation, back to the office. Finally got everything unpacked after an office rearrangement. I went to the post office but they didn't have enough stamps for the tree, so I settled for bucking it short enough to put out to the curb. Burned all the branches.

@JeffSchaller nice, I love rearranging stuff because you get to start over with organization

@Jesse_b yep, it was a good excuse to take the Christmas lights down

@JeffSchaller almost time to put them back up

@Jesse_b in the old cube, I left them up year-round and had printed a list of holidays for every day of the year (many food-based)

doh, thanks for the save @Kusalananda

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