« first day (2909 days earlier)      last day (2037 days later) » 

Tim
1:06 AM
Hi guys. I have been harrased by some users in my posts at stackoverflow.com/questions/52481505/… and stackoverflow.com/questions/52483536/…. May I ask for your kindness of reopen votes, upvotes or comments there? Thanks.
only if you disagree on what they have done.
The trolling comments by stackoverflow.com/users/608639/jww?tab=activity may have been removed by moderator, when you reach there. The close votes or downvotes by him and other people with the same mindsets are still there. Their influences are still there.
I don't care about reputations at all. What I worry the most is that a post with net downvotes can be removed by community bot automatically, and become closed or invisible.
 
 
3 hours later…
Tim
4:07 AM
Now my second post has been deleted by moderator https://stackoverflow.com/users/106224/boltclock because I "demonstrated lack of interest in pursuing the matter", whileI never did and never will.

And my post was closed earlier by https://stackoverflow.com/users/584192/samuel-liew because "This will only be on-topic if there is some code/scripting involved", while my post mentions Linux kernel C structures and fields.
I don't know why SO have such moderators. I recalled I have had some unpleasant experiences with them before
 
4:31 AM
@Tim I've mentioned this before, but your account has some weird linking issues. You should fix whatever it is.
If I click your profile, I end up with the only account listed as "The Great Outdoors".
 
Tim
4:53 AM
 
@FaheemMitha Only one community is visible.The Great Outdoors SE
 
@PrabhjotSingh My point exactly.
I said as much in my comment just below.
 
 
1 hour later…
6:07 AM
@FaheemMitha But this is strange.Last time I visited his profile then it showed him as 20k user in U&L SE.
 
6:26 AM
Now 29.3k as in snapshots.
 
@PrabhjotSingh There might be multiple duplicate accounts. That's the most likely possibility.
He really should get them merged. It's confusing.
3 or more, I'd say. He also has a Stack Overflow account.
 
@FaheemMitha This user is a Ambassador, in fact.
 
Yes, his U&L account does not show anything other than his U&L account.
 
Is it possible to create many accounts.
 
@PrabhjotSingh Yes, of course. It looks like he has separate accounts for the Great Outdoors, SO, and U&L. None of them are linked together. While this isn't an absolute requirement, it's pretty standard practice.
 
6:35 AM
@FaheemMitha You were right. unix.stackexchange.com/users/674/tim
 
Technically the accounts on each site are separate, but when they are linked, one can think of them as one account.
 
Yes, and one more for SO as well, at least.
 
7:01 AM
@FaheemMitha BTW EPW just now has sent me this.epw.in/engage/article/…
 
7:23 AM
@PrabhjotSingh How do you mean, sent? Via email?
 
8:18 AM
@FaheemMitha No, not by email. I was searching article for you. Then it was a paid article. But since that day I ve been getting 2 articles under engage site in waterfox browser. Even i can't make this out.
You would be surprised to know since then I ve not visited EPW.
 
9:01 AM
When I run python run.py I get dozens of lines on both stdout and stderr, but when I run python run.py 2>&1 |grep -v "XYZ" most lines do not appear. None of the lines contain the charaters "XYZ". Any idea what is going on?
 
@NicolasRaoul well, you’re using the -v option on grep, so it excludes lines containing XYZ
oh sorry I misunderstood
could run.py be adjusting its output when it’s not connected to a terminal?
 
I wrote run.py, it only does some boring calculations with a few prints and a few warnings caused by tensorflow.image.decode_jpeg ... no terminal/output tricks.
 
@NicolasRaoul What is the question exactly? Is it why you get output from you Python code or is it about the behaviour of grep -v?
 
I would expect all lines to be seen, since they do not contain "XYZ".
I am surprised that most lines (for instance a line that just says "TensorFlow version: 1.10.1") disappear.
My final goal is that my grep -v work on all output (both stdout and stderr).
 
9:21 AM
Just searching a bit around Tensorflow and logging/terminal output shows that others also have issues with how this works with Tensorflow...
 
Right, so even though run.py doesn’t do anything special wrt the terminal, Tensorflow could
I thought the messages came from run.py itself
 
Does using python -u solve anything? That would tell Python to do unbuffered output.
 
The way you’re doing the redirection is certainly correct ;-)
 
10:00 AM
Hello chat !
 
Hello
 
Hi @Kusalananda How are you?
 
10:37 AM
@Tim it seems to me that the moderator of the site -- sorry, two moderators of the site -- decided that your post was off-topic. I'm not sure that we have any more influence than they do. They also suggested that you raise the topic on Meta Stack Overflow, so if you want a positive experience on SO, I'd suggest listening to them.
@Tim I wonder if you're talking "past" each other on the definition of "coding" (one being "programming in the general sense" and the other being "C code")
 
@sebasth I am a non-native English speaker, and I do have English spelling checking in my Android and my Mac...the spelling checker in Linux acts up a bit......
@Fabby @FaheemMitha Just had beans with assorted meats and wine in my vacations....
 
@RuiFRibeiro Lucky you!!!
 
Ah... It must be somewhere in Portugal in that case...
 
@Fabby The region of Port wine.
 
10:46 AM
@RuiFRibeiro :D :D :D
 
@Fabby vineyeards, not the city.
@Fabby
17 miles, 93 bends and breathtaking views of the Douro Valley: The world's best road is in Portugal's wine region
 
Yup, reading it...
 
;)
@Fabby We found there 2 or 3 upper market restaurants that we ignored, and had lunch in a typical one.
 
11:28 AM
@Kiwy Very busy.
 
12:03 PM
Good luck :-)
 
@FaheemMitha just came in now. indianexpress.com/article/india/…
 
12:39 PM
Hi...
suse:/etc # cat fstab | grep var
/dev/system/var /var ext4 acl,user_xattr 1 2
suse:/etc # cat mtab | grep var
/dev/mapper/system-var /var ext4 rw,relatime,data=ordered 0 0
suse:/etc # mount | grep var
/dev/mapper/system-var on /var type ext4 (rw,relatime,data=ordered)
suse:/etc #
Any clue why do I have /dev/system there, and it is mounted as /dev/mapper? I always used /dev/mapper...
Got a couple of SuSE servers configured like this.
 
12:59 PM
Didn't know Chrome was that unpopular. I wish I had put capital letter on Firefox.
It would look nicer at the top stared quote :D
 
@PrabhjotSingh Yes, I saw that. Not exactly good news.
Well, not that exact article.
 
I don't know other countries in Europe but India is so ignored from the media here in France... I don't even know if it's a democratic country or not. I'm ashamed of my own ignorance...
1.5 Billions inhabitants and no one ever talw about India except to mention how awesome was Gandhi ...
I don't really understand. Though lately there's apparently some information about possible financial exchange regarding plane sold to India by a French company that suck balls...
 
1:21 PM
@Kiwy Chrome has much better nice fonts. Firefox on itś multiple encations can be and is lighter on resources, and exposes much more internal variables to tweak. And now you have SCT on chrome complicating things (Firefox most probably will follow suit, but they are "beta testing")
@Kiwy oh, and that nonsense of hiding www and m. and now backing away....users with browsers changing behaviour lo
@StephenKitt Do you by change now of any systemd/kernel change where those device names not using /dev/mapper are being ignored? Found some relates in Google of anedoctal tales of people having that same problem, but no concrete leads.
 
@RuiFRibeiro I don’t know, but I think it’s been like that for a while
hmm actually maybe not
Debian 9 still shows /dev/mapper
oh wait
right so it’s been like that since Debian 9 if not before
 
@StephenKitt Nah, the other way around. dev mapper works ok. I do not even know the other syntax
 
/dev/VG/LV in /etc/fstab -> /dev/mapper/... in mtab
 
@StephenKitt yep, also noticed the mtab bit.
 
@RuiFRibeiro the other syntax has been around for years
 
1:31 PM
@StephenKitt Never used it myself.
@StephenKitt we have a big server that stopped booting because of that....
@StephenKitt (story more convuluted than that)
 
@RuiFRibeiro my workstation’s /etc/fstab has been like that since at least 2007 (that’s when the history starts)
 
@StephenKitt I am arrinving to the conclusion we better change to dev mapper a similar server.
@StephenKitt ok.
 
@RuiFRibeiro why do the references to /dev/mapper stop it from booting?
 
@StephenKitt Actually several related problems kernel?/udev/systemd/multipath interactions of old bugs and no security updates...SAP servers and the mentality if it works, leave them alone.
@StephenKitt Found some white papers, related bugs and anedoctal tales of people in the same situation....what a mess.
@StephenKitt I was just curious of that old notation, and being translated to dev mapper in mtab...did not find much about it.
 
@RuiFRibeiro right, presumably something got upgraded and broke things, it wouldn’t happen on its own
but certainly the /dev/mapper transformation isn’t new
 
1:39 PM
@PrabhjotSingh Unfortunately but unsurprisingly, the Supreme Court appears to be ok with this wretched Aadhaar card.
@Kiwy Not really a democracy, except in name. And 1.3 billion, I believe.
 
@StephenKitt For sure, I just did not know that syntax/translation to dev mapper. SAP people only follow SAP bulletins, sAP tells them hey, interaction between kernel version and SAP, time to upgrade kernel, and the rest of the packages are in an older version....
@FaheemMitha We also here are a "democracy" when in fact we are somewhere between a plutocracy and an oligarchy
 
@FaheemMitha I will comment on it after reading related literature. Probably after a week
@RuiFRibeiro But your civil society is very strong. Innit@FaheemMitha
 
@RuiFRibeiro but that’s never (or rather, hardly ever) an issue, the kernel is always backwards compatible (really, it is)
and I imagine SAP is running on an enterprise distro with a stable kernel anyway
 
@StephenKitt A race condition over multipath with systemd
@StephenKitt anyway, I only posted it here cause I was curious about that alternative device syntax
 
@RuiFRibeiro I understand ;-)
 
1:48 PM
I also have an NDA, already speaking too much talking about the nature of the servers.
 
@PrabhjotSingh Pardon? If you mean, is Portugal in better shape than India? Then yes, of course.
 
@PrabhjotSingh Cannot decide whether civil society used to be strong and nowadays just pretend to be. People are apathic here at best.
 
@FaheemMitha I mean European society is stronger than India, Though people like Le Pen and Boris Johnson are rising to the horizon.
@RuiFRibeiro It was my perception.
At the time of US aggresion in Iraq the strongest preotests were in the streets of Paris if I remember correctly.
 
@PrabhjotSingh Sociecity is still somewhat fair and peaceful here at least. I can leave my mobile and wallet at my desk in an open office with 100 people without problems.
 
@PrabhjotSingh Yes, that's what I meant. The society.
 
1:55 PM
@FaheemMitha So isn't better than us.
What I wrote earlier "Society".
How civil society is different from The Society.
 
user141350
2:19 PM
A user named "Goro" rejected two of my last edits which I think were seriously unrightfully rejected. Can someone please check this? @terdon
 
@JohnDoea show some links we might be able to explain why he did
@RuiFRibeiro hidding http and www is one of the worst design I ever see. I do not even understand who once says in a meeting:
"hey we could hide valuable information that people are use to see. It could suck ass and annoys everybody but when you would use copy paste it would copy the hidden information so the user could rage even more. Ho and better the change would be reversible in a hidden/obscure variable in about:config. Who's in ? "
"Ho yeah bandon that's actually an amazing idea !"
"We should certainly do this ! Display useful informations to users is so main stream ! "
@FaheemMitha You're absolutly right, 1.3B. I live in year 2025, that's why I mistaken and says a wrong number... my apologize.
Still it is the second most populated country... I know pretty much to nothing...
 
@JohnDoea I can't be very specific if you don't show me the reviews you mean.
 
user141350
1
Q: Is there a programmatical difference btween directories created with mktemp -d or mkdir?

JohnDoeaI try to understand Stephen Kitt's answer to this question where he created a temporary directory with the following code: #!/bin/bash scripttmp=$(mktemp -d) # Create a temporary directory Each time I run this command I see a new temporary directory created under /tmp/ (I didn't know it will ...

 
user141350
This is one
 
Um
Yes, that one I saw. I'm afraid I would also have rejected the edit.
 
user141350
2:35 PM
Okay, thanks terdon
 
None of the changes were particularly helpful, and one was actually detrimental: please don't use code formatting for things that aren't code. "inode" is a noun, it isn't a piece of code so it shouldn't be rendered as code.
 
user141350
I can't find the other one from some reason.
 
That one is also kind of problematic. I don't see how any of the changes you suggested are improvements. You changed UK spelling to US spelling, you added the term "direct command" which doesn't make much sense, you changed the text in a comment in the code but your change made the comment ungrammatical.
 
user141350
IMO these were good, but where did I use code formatting in the first one?
 
@JohnDoea The word "inodes" in the screenshot above
 
user141350
2:40 PM
In this one (not slebetman's) I see the formatting issue. Sorry.
 
user141350
I don't know the UK spelling, sorry.
 
user141350
What is ungrammatical?
 
my bad
 
@JohnDoea realise and realize are both correct. One is the UK spelling and the other is the US one.
 
but I'm not the best in picky grammar
 
2:42 PM
You changed the comment in the shell function from this:
# assume the only argument passed is
# something we can "call"/execute
To this:
# assume this the only argument passed is
# something we can "call"/execute
"Assume the only foo is bar" is fine, but "assume this the only foo is bar" is ungrammatical.
 
realise is from the UK directly imported from the French réaliser while realize is the US version
I though it would the contrary.
 
And the changes you made to the first paragraph seem odd to me. They don't make the post clearer or easier to understand, they just change the phrasing.
@Kiwy The US spellings were changed to more closely represent the way some words are pronounced. Since we actually say realiZe when we speak, they made it correct to spell it that way. I guess this was Noah Webster's reform, but I'm not sure.
 
user141350
Sorry I should have add an "is" after "this".
 
Ha! I was wrong, realize is actually older:
> Although realize is now regarded by many in the U.K. and Australasia as the American spelling, it is not an Americanism. In fact, the -ize spelling variant is older than –ise—realize predates the United States and Canada by nearly two centuries—and has been the preferred spelling throughout most of the word’s history in English. If we can believe the ngram below, which graphs the use of realize and realise in British books and journals published between 1800 and 2000, realise had a brief ascendancy in British English from the late 19th century through the early 20th, but
@JohnDoea That would still have changed the sentence. The comment isn't saying assume this is, it is saying assume the only thing passed is
Anyway, don't worry about it. Thanks for taking the time to edit, everyone has some edits rejected every now and then :)
 
the oxford english use a lot of -ize word
 
2:56 PM
@terdon oddly enough, I tend to use mostly the UK spelling, and use realize if the spelling corrector does not kick in...
 
Yeah, I mix them up too. I was raised with the US spelling, but I went to university in the UK so the whole thing is a mess for me now.
 
@terdon I am a later learner taking English seriously...before my 20s my English was virtually non-existent.
@terdon was more into Spanish and French. After that, shifted to English.
@terdon was more into Spanish and French. After that, shifted to English.
@terdon My Galician mentor borrowed me all his collection of Lord of the rings in the summer I was 20 years old.
 
"lent" :P
Sorry, I can't help it.
But yes, LOTR is a very good way to improve your English.
 
@terdon yeah, no problem. Was struggling with it :) Memory is not what it used to be and we need to shift to English at home again....shifted to Portuguese to teach grammar to my wife maybe 3 or 4 years ago.
 
"lent" ?
 
3:07 PM
@Kiwy irregular verbs.
 
irregular past form of 'lend'
synonym of 'loaned'
 
@ThomasWard Actually loaned was the word failing me, thanks too.
 
@Kiwy Lent: noun: fasting period in Christiaanism.
 
OK I was reading lent in French and was looking for a play on word
 
@Kiwy yeah, you can't say "John borrowed me his car", it has to be "John lent me his car". One of those weird things.
 
3:08 PM
(also past tese of the verb "loan")
 
in frenglish
 
Nah, it's quite fast actually :P
 
@terdon ho you can't say borrowed ? easy one :P
 
@Kiwy You borrowed, I lent.
 
@terdon You speak French too? (or did you Google that?)
 
3:09 PM
@terdon LOTR was a bit heavy....
 
@Fabby Yes
Yes I speak French, I mean.
 
oh yes ok I get it
 
I lived there for 5 years, after all.
 
forget about that
 
2 different words in English
@Kiwy It's just uncanny!
All the people in France speak French so well! (They must have a knack for it)
;-)
 
3:11 PM
@fabby I said "Forget about it" :P
Actually there's quiet a lot of French that have a terrible french but I guess it's the same in pretty much every country
 
@Fabby I cannot say all the people here speak PT well. I do not need subtitles for Spanish, however for the inhabitants of our islands, I would prefer to have subtitles. ;)
 
@RuiFRibeiro wait for it I'm sure Google IBM or Microsoft will come up with some connected glasses with integrated subtitles for any languages
 
@Kiwi Glassholes, no thanks ;)
 
@terdon same as prêter / emprunter in French ;-)
 
@RuiFRibeiro but you would carry your little spy on your nose hearing anything people could told you and watching every of your moves...
It would be so lovely !
 
3:15 PM
@Kiwy for spying we already carry our phones ;)
 
@StephenKitt Ah yes. I was thinking of louer instead.
 
which work neatly both ways and can cause lots of confusion !
anyway !
It's time to go home and have a beer !
ho and @StephenKitt If you happen to leave near by and want to hear some Irish music there's an irish jam in the bryan's pub Cours emile zola.
I'll be there
starts around 21:00
 
@Kiwy I’m in Amsterdam just now!
 
@terdon As for a phrase starred here, back when I started there was not much more than man pages and books...
 
@StephenKitt ho... now I'm jealous that's my favorite town in the whole world
 
3:24 PM
Have not been to Amsterdam yet.
 
@RuiFRibeiro Yes, me too. That didn't make the man pages any easier to understand.
Reading man pages is an acquired skill. They take some getting used to.
 
@terdon there are worse things....
@terdon RFCs
 
Yes. Or contracts. But that doesn't make man pages easy and expecting new users to read the man page and understand is silly.
 
@terdon we read them and still are somewhat sane...I think. ;-P
 
3:39 PM
Sure, but we've been reading them for decades. They make sense now, but we as users of this site, need to remember that they were much harder to read when we began.
And some people here leave really obnoxious comments like "this is all in the man page, go read that instead of wasting our time" and that really pisses me off.
Both because it isn't that simple to read a man page and because I just don't understand why someone would waste their time leaving such a pointless and unpleasant comment instead of simply moving on to the next question.
I mean, if you don't like a question, then move on. Or, if you must, downvote and move on. But why leave a comment which is nothing but noise? And unpleasant noise.
 
@terdon Two sides of the balance too there...there are bad questions, there are both comments. I do not enjoy entertaining bad quality questions either, you know it ;)
@terdon As for man pages, well we also read them when we did not understand much...it makes me think how I usually read a technical book actually. I tend to give it a first read cover to cover even I do not make much of it, and then do a much slower read. 2 pass parsing system lol
 
@RuiFRibeiro What do you mean? If a question is bad, you downvote.
I am talking about those people who choose to leave obnoxious, condescending comments calling out new users for their ignorance, as though they were born experts.
 
@terdon I used to downvote a lot...nowadays mostly ignoring or hiding some tags.
 
This site is not only for experts, it is 100% for newbies as well. And yet, some of us come here and leave comments making fun of new users because they don't know enough.
grrrr
 
@terdon I do not condone making fun of people.
 
3:47 PM
I'm not saying you do. I am explaining the context of the starred message you mentioned.
 
@terdon Yeah, I understood you were not. However, as we read man pages in the beggining, people also has to start somewhere, I think. man pages have their value...though I miss Ultrix man pages. They had actual examples. SE actually has a negative impact on the man pages, I think.
 
Kinda hard to make it worse.
 
@terdon bit cryptic sometimes, but nonetheless much better than having nothing there.
 
Also, you can't compare someone who works professionally with *nix systems and someone who just wants to use them as a tool. Not everyone has the time to sit down and read through documentation. You do that when *nix is the main object of your work. If you just need to get something done so you can continue with your real work, spending a few hours going through documentation isn't really an option.
And that's kinda what we're here for. I mean, 80% of all questions on the site could presumably be answered if you look through all available documentation closely enough.
But reading the entire rsync manual, for example, will take a very long time and you can't expect someone who isn't a sysadmin to always have the time to do so.
$ man rsync | wc -l
3563
 
@Kiwy No need to apologise.
 
3:55 PM
@terdon I read the Sys V manuals back in University time...
 
@RuiFRibeiro Precisely. But you're a sysadmin aren't you? Someone else using this site could be a dancer, or a florist or whatever and they don't have the time to sit down and read manuals cover to cover.
When your main interest or profession is about computers, then of course you'll read through the documentation. If, however, you're just a casual user (and we have a lot of casual users in the Linux world these days), then you won't. And you shouldn't need to.
 
@terdon I agree with you...what I am saying I read them before being a sysadmin
 
I hope you people have being having a better day than me. I was having Hospital Fun.
 
@RuiFRibeiro Well yes, but you're someone who ended up being a sysadmin! That just proves my point :)
@FaheemMitha You OK?
 
@FaheemMitha Sorry to hear that, hope you are well. Just bloody hot here.
@terdon Maybe. I was no more than a casual user early on.
 
3:59 PM
@RuiFRibeiro A "casual" user who read the Sys V manuals? That isn't very casual :)
 
@terdon I have not said those were my first contacts with Unix ;)
... but even then, you read them because you needed to and there were not people in SE parsing things for you ;)
 
4:59 PM
This answer would have been funnier if it had been given with nanosecond accuracy: unix.stackexchange.com/a/471637/116858
 
Can you locate the exact time up to the nanosecond? ;-)Fabby 14 secs ago
 
5:30 PM
@terdon Yes, thanks. My mother, not me.
I don't know about other places, but Indian hospitals are fairly horrible places to spend time in.
Whether one is sick or not.
Hmm, fetchmail seems to have got stuck. Weird.
@PrabhjotSingh So you think the SC judgment was a good one, then?
It's sad that there was only one dissenting opinion holding it unconstitutional.
@PrabhjotSingh Are you subscribed to rethink-aadhaar@lists.riseup.net?
Not a discussion list, just an announcement list.
For some reason, no discussion list exists for this Aadhaar thing.
 
user141350
6:23 PM
@terdon I see your point. Slebetman wrote:

# assume the only argument passed is
-----------------# something we can "call"/execute

I believe I was confused due to the vast spacing and the extra # sign and misread the is the end, hence added "this" after "assume", trying to "complete" the author's intention.

Bad mental state due to insane stress which will hopefully fade away soon after some deep changes in my life... Geographical, Noiseonal, nutritional and more.

I'm really sorry for the trouble. I thank you for the review !!!
 
user141350
Note: Each hyphen is a space (the spaces omitted when publishing the comment so I replaced them with hyphens.
 
6:39 PM
Anybody here ever built a custom system image to load onto Rackspace, such as an unsupported distro like Slackware?
 
@FaheemMitha I will answer your questiin after one question. Who told you that ABBA is more than a band?
 
@PrabhjotSingh Pardon?
 
@FaheemMitha Bezwada wilson was pursuing this case since 2010.
 
@PrabhjotSingh Oh? That must have been fun.
 
@FaheemMitha I asked you Who told you that ABBA is more than a band?
 
6:46 PM
@PrabhjotSingh I don't understand the question, sorry.
 
I ve repeatedly said i am not worrief about privacy but people poor in particular due to ABBA is a consern.
 
@PrabhjotSingh Well, I do worry about privacy.
 
@FaheemMitha Who shared Jean and Ritika's pieces in this chatroom?
 
And the Supreme Court said you now have to get the freaking thing to file a Tax Return.
@PrabhjotSingh With me? I think you did.
 
@FaheemMitha As of now I am not in a postion either to endorse or reject anything. But as I have said earlier I will go thru this.
I don't want to say anything in just reaction.
@FaheemMitha I ask you one more question. After this verdict people will apply for aadhar?
 
6:53 PM
@PrabhjotSingh It's really not so complicated.
@PrabhjotSingh If you want to file a tax return yes.
Possibly for other reasons. It's not clear.
Based on what I've seen of judgements of the Supreme Court in the past, I'm not impressed in general. They seems as confused, muddled, and chaotic as the rest of the country.
 
@FaheemMitha Most important takeaway is Aadhar is constitutionally valid. I have one confusion related to "original" three judge bench cuz some petitions are still pending before that bench.
 
@PrabhjotSingh Agreed. I also thought that there was a three judge bench somewhere.
Regardless, the Aadhaar is a really bad idea.
I think these judges just don't want to upset the govt too much. 4 to 1, really?
And the incredible stupidity of the comments on these articles always amazes me.
 
@FaheemMitha Three judge bench hearing petitions from start. after clubbing some petitions Five judgs bench Constitution bench was created that asked whether pdivacy is a basic right so 9 judge bench was formed.
 
@PrabhjotSingh It's confusing.
So, what happened to the 3 judge bench?
 
I dunno whether that would be hearing. this ia my confusion. In privacy judgdment Justice Rohington Nariman said that three judge bench will hear some cases.
@FaheemMitha < I think these judges just don't want to upset the govt too much. 4 to 1, really? Why you think so?
 
7:12 PM
@PrabhjotSingh Because they ruled the way they did. For example, putting it in a Money Bill was clearly improper, bordering on criminal. And trying to force everyone to use it was coercion, plain and simple.
And you notice they didn't hold the Govt in contempt.
Also, it sounds like they made no attempt to address the widely reported security Aadhaar issues.
 
@FaheemMitha I think lone dissenting judge has said that.
 
@PrabhjotSingh About what? The Money Bill. Regardless, the intent is pretty clear. And numerous people have said as much. But India has always been a great place to engage in criminal activity. The law is as likely to help criminals as not.
 
@FaheemMitha Jean has written an article about CIDR. have you gone thru this. very good essay on privacy.
 
@PrabhjotSingh Can you give me the link again?
This makes a good point:
> the judgement is totally misleading. if the Aadhar is to be linked with pan card and Itax. how not mandatory for bank account. for opening of any bank account you need to submit the pan card and pan card is linked to your aadhar automatically the aadhar details are with bankers.
Aside from the terrible English, as usual.
But see what I said above about Supreme Court judgments.
 
@FaheemMitha My english too is not very good.
 
7:54 PM
@FaheemMitha Terrible is an understatement ;)
Well, upgraded to Mojave in the wee hours of today....
 
 
2 hours later…
9:37 PM
is there a way to save the state of process id's between reboot?
 
@William perhaps using ns_last_pid
(you could ask a question on site, assuming there isn't one already)
 
okay I will
 
Probably a good idea to mention for what you need it
 
assuming we are talking about the same thing the counter isn't to important to me I think
 
are you tying to launch a process with pre-determined pid?
 
9:44 PM
just trying to learn the system better so I thought this mighthelp
 
(or want new process pids to be allocated from same value as before reboot, for whatever reasons)
 
same value as before reboot
 
that probably depends on how deterministic system boot is
(same amount of processed launched in same order)
 
VMs will work but at lass not my original plan
 
 
2 hours later…
11:33 PM
@PrabhjotSingh Thank you.
 

« first day (2909 days earlier)      last day (2037 days later) »