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8:22 AM
Sometime I wish I could understand why people abruptly remove there question like this unix.stackexchange.com/questions/447724/…
I just don't understand what is the point
 
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Q: Users deleting their questions after receiving answer as comment (stop answering in comments)

KusalanandaThis is related to Should we discourage people that delete their question after they receive an answer?, and to the AskUbuntu Meta question Please stop posting half answers and dumb advice as comments. It's a combination of the two. This evening I've had two instances of questions being deleted,...

@Kiwy I can think of a few reasons: presumably your comment was sufficient for the OP to figure the answer out (in fact, it could well have been the answer), and the OP might not want to leave a trace of the question — e.g. it’s their job, they’re supposed to know how to do this, etc.
Some of the questions asked here are mind-boggling and could help feed a blacklist of companies to avoid, if one were inclined to figure out where the question authors work...
(Not the question you’re referring to though.)
For example
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Q: Debian System locales corrupt on jessie 8.6

zewOlFI am Using debian 8.6 and for some reasons i cannot upgrade it, the issue is i want to install some packages for example apache 2.4.29, i used testing repos and to do that and it worked, so now i have a new machine with the same debian distro, and i want to install the same apache version but unf...

(look at the original version of the question)
 
Well @StephenKitt I'm not sure it was the answer looked for, but still I used SE in my job quiet often and I first of all once did put something wrong in the question and asked immediatly here to remove this question as the text in qy question could have lead to my company
I don't feel like asking question is bad in any way as long as your learn from the answer given
it happen also a lot that I end up posting my own solution
 
@Kiwy yes, that’s definitely a valid reason if you want to keep things quiet
@Kiwy exactly, but some people don’t think of it that way
 
@StephenKitt The OP in the question you link here is disturbing here, he sounded like a customer addressing another company to solve a problem :D
I could understand this person ask to a removal :D
 
A lot of questions here are plainly from people utterly incompetent for the jobs they're doing, I could see them trying to hide that.
 
8:36 AM
@Kiwy yes, and I imagine customers realising what the actual level of “support” is, wouldn’t be too happy
 
@MichaelHomer considering I add 4 different job in 4 different fields of IT/dev/devops/grid computing, I consider myself pretty incompetent at most of my job past and present
I learn quick though
@StephenKitt having done a lot of support in my previous job I can't imagine doing that when customer ask to solve one issue, it ould have been great fun. Hey I'm working for this company and we need apache 2.4 on debian how can we do. My answer here would be to use dotdeb repo I should answer that
 
8:51 AM
góðan dag
 
Bonjour
 
Bonjour monsieur
 
 
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9:57 AM
Heyyyy new icon
 
@Kiwy Cute
 
it's Unikitty from one the most amazing animation movie fo those 10 last years
 
10:29 AM
@Kiwy I've fixed this question and voted to reopen it: unix.stackexchange.com/questions/447459/…
(and terdon reopened it)
 
11:04 AM
@Kusalananda I think that's fair, but the OP should have edited this on its own, though the first time nothing on this site is really straitgh forward
ho Merciful @terdon :P
 
11:25 AM
@Kiwy Why?
The objective is to have a useful question, who cares who fixes it?
I regularly fix and then upvote questions.
 
No it was more a joke @terdon, I should not have ping you like this.
I think both of you have done the right thing.
 
@Kiwy in this case I understand why the user did not include a sample from the file themselves. They were completely stumped and did not know whether it was they that did something wrong, if it was something wrong with the file or if there was some peculiarity about ed on macOS. You did the right thing to bring it up on Meta.
 
11:40 AM
@Kusalananda could I get a badge for that ? Bring usefull question on Meta site that has an impact on main site ?
Anyway I ask the question because it was unclear to me. now it is. It's good that both of you have handle the "problem"
 
OK, so I need to ask more question on Meta...
expect me soon enough on Meta to earn a new badge...
or maybe not
 
@Kiwy or post answers, they count too
 
I could became the Tim of Meta Unix SE
 
@Kiwy lots of SE is poorly documented, or not documented at all, so there’s certainly room for improvement there; but a lot of the questions that come up are already addressed on Meta Stack Exchange (sometimes multiple times, sometimes in multiple variants, only some of which are correct...)
 
12:04 PM
@StephenKitt I never really understand the aim of meta stackexchange as the limit between site is sometime very blurry with other meta site I feel like it's only a way to give rep to people on meta question
 
in particular “Support, feature requests, or bug reports for the core Stack Exchange engine that powers all Stack Exchange websites
and as a result a lot of features on SE are documented on Meta
 
ok then my question is well placed as I heard there is pretty significant difference in handling of vote close and general moderating rules from one site to another
 
@Kiwy oh yes definitely, voting and moderation should be discussed on the local meta
 
@StephenKitt I finally get the joke here
POWER as in powerpc i guess ?
 
@Kiwy nearly, the underlying architecture used on AIX systems is called POWER (it’s related to PowerPC but isn’t the same)
IBM has a series of high performance microprocessors called POWER followed by a number designating generation, i.e. POWER1, POWER2, POWER3 and so forth up to the latest POWER9. These processors have been used by IBM in their RS/6000, AS/400, pSeries, iSeries, System p, System i and Power Systems line of servers and supercomputers. They have also been used in data storage devices by IBM and by other server manufacturers like Bull and Hitachi. The name "POWER" was originally presented as an acronym for "Performance Optimization With Enhanced RISC". The POWERn family of processors were developed in...
 
12:10 PM
OK, I knew power pc was a brand of IBM CPU, didn't know the architecture was named POWER. Thanks @StephenKitt
took me only 5 days to figure out the joke
Not bad :D
 
@Kiwy heh, not bad indeed
What’s with the new trend of putting product names between backticks or in bold? I’ve noticed a few editors doing so recently...
e.g.
 
12:37 PM
@StephenKitt Yes. From a typographical point of view, that's awful.
 
@Kusalananda and the guilty parties are unlikely to frequent chat and learn about the errors of their ways
 
@StephenKitt What if we shout?
 
@Kusalananda What if we shout?
hmm the difference is subtle there, that’s bold code
 
1:23 PM
@Kiwy New picture?
@StephenKitt There was also briefly an Apple clone called Power, as I recall.
 
@FaheemMitha yes, see
The earliest Mac clones were based on Emulators and reverse-engineered Macintosh ROMs. During Apple's short lived Mac OS 7 licensing program authorized Mac clone makers were able to either purchase 100% compatible motherboards or build their own hardware using licensed Mac reference designs. Since Apple's switch to the Intel Platform many non-Apple Wintel/PC computers are technologically so similar to Mac computers that they are able to boot the Mac operating system using a varying combination of community developed patches and hacks. Such a Wintel/PC computer running macOS is more commonly referred...
 
Amazing that people feel the desire to run Apple's FrankenOS on non-Apple hardware.
When they have actual operating systems they can use.
Truly, it's a strange world.
 
 
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2:32 PM
@FaheemMitha Yeah new picture ! Isn't that beautiful ?
 
2:52 PM
@Kiwy It's certainly interesting. You realise you have multiple errors in your U&L profile, or whatever it's called?
I.e.
> Nice nerd whiling to save the Univers,
looking for answers and good question
 
:D probably I wrote that really quickly
 
I count 3 basic spelling/grammatical errors.
Do you want corrections?
 
willing
 
@Kiwy Yes.
 
questions
 
2:53 PM
Well, the monsoons have arrived here. Thunder and lightning.
 
and can't find the last one, are you implying I'm not nice ?
 
@Kiwy Universe
 
@StephenKitt Yes, that one.
Also, sentences customarily end with a period.
 
Hate those english word that looks French but takes an additional letter they are usually a PIA for me as I always forget the last letter all the time in English
 
@Kiwy What word is that? You mean Universe?
 
2:55 PM
And yes @FaheemMitha I know that repeating always and all the time in the same sentence is overkill, but it's to emphasis my words.
Univers/Universe indeed
hey have you seen that nice computer terminal ?
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Q: Internet slow in terminal, but it gets faster when I enable a VPN

YukiWhatever I do in my terminal (any terminal) on Arch (even using a live cd), that requires internet access, is painfully slow. curl google.com takes about 15 seconds to produce an output wget -O /dev/null http://cachefly.cachefly.net/100mb.test takes about 5 seconds to start downloading, the...

So deepweb and hacky thingy :D
 
@Kiwy Something called Unikitty, apparently.
Lack of sleep is catching up with me. I'm usually quite wakeful at this hour, but not today.
 
@FaheemMitha can happen sometime, Indeed Unikitty from The Lego Movie which is AWESOME IMO
 
@Kiwy Oh, the Lego Movie. The one with that "Everything is Awesome" song?
 
@FaheemMitha indeed that song is pretty sarcastic my comment about the though is not. It's 100km/h movie where everything goes so fast it's pretty amazing
 
3:06 PM
So basically, the Lego Movie is 1984 with children's bricks?
@StephenKitt Thank you.
@Kiwy Like a 3 year old on a sugar rush.
 
@FaheemMitha you should thanks Stephen indeed it's an awesome track to wake up :D
Basically it's a bit of 1984 but in a way more fun way, because what I remember from the book don't really make me that happy :D
 
@Kiwy Book?
 
I have no kid and no intention to do so. I don't know what you're talking about.
1984 is a book by Georges Orwell
 
@Kiwy Yes, I know what 1984 is. The book, that is. Not the year.
And his real name wasn't Orwell.
The Orwell is a Suffolk river.
 
@FaheemMitha hah he looks like Paul Anderson in Peaky Blinders
 
3:10 PM
It flows through Ipswich.
@StephenKitt Who?
@StephenKitt BTW, where in the UK are you from?
 
@FaheemMitha the West of Scotland but I spent most of my years in the UK in Edinburgh
 
@StephenKitt Do you consider yourself Scottish?
 
@FaheemMitha more Scottish than English, yes
 
@StephenKitt Oh, you're talking about Eric. Yes, I seem a resemblance.
 
@FaheemMitha yup
whenever I see Blair of course I think of Wing Commander
 
3:13 PM
I used to think everyone knew that Orwell's name wasn't really Orwell, but apparently not.
@StephenKitt Wing Commander? Why "of course"?
 
Wing Commander is a media franchise consisting of space combat simulation video games from Origin Systems, Inc., an animated television series, a feature film, a collectible card game, a series of novels, and action figures. The franchise originated in 1990 with the release of Wing Commander. == Setting and gameplay == Set in the 27th century, the games tell the story of humanity's war against the Kilrathi, an alien species of large feline bipeds. The Kilrathi are native to the planet Kilrah with their society depicted as an empire. Physically they are bipeds who strongly resemble big cats: they...
@FaheemMitha I was being ironic, since most people would think of Tony
at least, most people familiar with the UK
 
@StephenKitt Oh. Yes, your ghastly PM. Though aren't they all?
 
@FaheemMitha yes, it’s rather hard to tally up the good and bad that country leaders manage to do
and like the Y2K bug it’s easier to see the bad than the good
 
@StephenKitt They don't always assist criminal invasions of foreign countries. At least, not recently.
 
but Irak was pretty bad and Tony Blair always seemed to be in it for himself rather than for the country
 
3:17 PM
Once upon a time, that was what the British were pretty much all about.
@StephenKitt I thought he gained religious inspiration or something. Voices from Heaven or smething.
Wrt Iraq, I mean.
 
 
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@FaheemMitha big brother's origin is from 1984.
 
@PrabhjotSingh If you mean the character, I know.
 
@FaheemMitha hi
 
@PrabhjotSingh Hi
 
I'm enthusiast now.
 
4:52 PM
@PrabhjotSingh ?
 
Completed 1 month on site got new bagde.
@FaheemMitha Robert Burns was Scottish? My love is like red red rose
 
@PrabhjotSingh Ok.
@PrabhjotSingh Yes, i think he was.
 
First azure OS now acquisition of GitHub.
@FaheemMitha implications?
 
5:30 PM
@PrabhjotSingh Implications of what?
 
5:55 PM
@FaheemMitha Microsoft's acquisition of GitHub and Azure OS
 
@PrabhjotSingh Oh. I don't know.
MS owning stuff is usually bad news for users unless you happen to be MS or one of their shareholders, perhaps.
 
@FaheemMitha your thoughts about "minority report" ?
 
@PrabhjotSingh I don't know what you mean.
Do you mean the film?
 
Minority report 2002 movie
MS could do Oracle did Sun Microsystems
 
@PrabhjotSingh I've watched it. Don't really have an opinion. Loosely based on a Philip K. story, isn't it?
Probably very loosely.
Why?
 
6:03 PM
Yup
 
Most Hollywood SF isn't really much good.
Some of it is complete rubbish.
I think I watched a film called "Interstellar" which was complete gibberish.
 
We do import Beverly hills crap in Bombay
 
@PrabhjotSingh Bombay?
 
I asked about this because some new friends at c classes asked me about AI. And I recommend them Minority report. I did stupid thing Na
India got challenge, Indian idol
Dhoom movies
Bombay I mean Bollywood
 
@PrabhjotSingh If you want to learn about AI, watching movies isn't really going to help you.
Though there isn't really any such thing as AI.
At best a convincing mimicry.
 
6:08 PM
No, no we were just discussing?
As Einstein said Artificial intelligence is no match for natural stupidity
@FaheemMitha I take your words. There isn't any such thing as AI. Thanks
 
@PrabhjotSingh Depends what you mean by AI, I suppose. But not in the sense of actual sapience. Or even anything remotely close to that.
 
Right
I regret I said we import crap in Bombay.
In fact in Indian film industry
@FaheemMitha
@FaheemMitha what you make of Tom Hanks?
 
6:24 PM
@PrabhjotSingh Shrug. No opinion.
 
Sleepless in Seattle
If you don't know Tom Hanks or Manto even then you are Renaissance man to me.
 
6:40 PM
@FaheemMitha no problem
 
@PrabhjotSingh I know who Tom Hanks is.
 
I watched his 3 or 4 movies
One line in sleepless in Seattle is very touching surprises are highly over ra.
@FaheemMitha ha ha
@FaheemMitha I was searching this when you and discussing about art en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/…
 
 
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9:30 PM
I need someone to beat me over the head with a book about linux. Maybe some of the knowledge will get in.
 
 
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11:01 PM
Know I have seen a QnA on this, but can not find it: I'm trying to use printf in a bash script to generate options for a command but having issues with quotes ...
Having an array $exclude I do:
find . $(printf -- " -path \"*/%s/*\" -prune -o " "${exclude[@]}") -name "some pattern" -print
But the quotes messes things up.
 

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