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10:23 AM

Good monring day night evening I don't know to all of you

I have a major issue with my memory today

I remeber I saw once a tool on linux a bit like AIDE that keep records of change in configuration file with automated configuration backup

it was something like etchecker

but I can't find it anymore on internet.

I would be glad if any of you had an idea :)

Kiwy

10:36 AM

I may be tripwire, but I'm pretty sure there's another one

Fabby

What's your problem with your memory?

Do you want to run a diagnostic?

(I don't know aide nor tripwire)

Kiwy

I just don't remember so the problerm is more about my brain memory

because I can't remember.

those two tools run a diagnosys of your system compare your config file with a hash DB and tell's you who and when there have been a change, and I remeber that I found one of this tool tha twas also making a backup of configuration before they are modified

some kind of automated configuration file versionning

Faheem Mitha

Hi @Kiwy. Long time no see.

Kiwy

@FaheemMitha Hey nice to see you :)

how are you Faheem ?

Faheem Mitha

@Kiwy I'm Ok. How are you? How is the (new) job? I think you started a new job recently, right?

Kiwy

10:51 AM

@FaheemMitha well That's why you don't see me a lot, I'm completely overloaded but I have a f***ing great job

it's amazing, it's been a year now

Fabby

@Kiwy I still don't have a clue what you need, so I'll drop the ball here...

@Kiwy Unix job?

Kiwy

@fab

@Fabby well thanks for trying :)

terdon

Hi @Kiwy!

You could always ask on Software Recommendations

Kiwy

Hey @terdon how are you ?

terdon

@Kiwy Fine thanks :)

Kiwy

10:54 AM

How odes it works Software Request has you should not be opinion based :D

terdon

@Kiwy Just describe what you need this program to do and ask if anyone can recommend something

Kiwy

anyway, I will try if I do not find it, but I'm getting close

I found tripwire, and I'm pretty that a little brother of its I'm after

Faheem Mitha

@Kiwy That's great. You do unix type things?

Kiwy

@FaheemMitha Linux Cisco fortinet Mail stuff support cabling customer projet internal project well, pretty much everything :D

that's awesome sauce

Faheem Mitha

@Kiwy Wow, that's a lot of stuff.

Kiwy

11:00 AM

Well as I'm still pretty uncomfortable with cisco network is what I do the less I also do shoretel and asterisk stuff :D

@FaheemMitha well in one year I have made more stuff than I've done during my 6 years of study :D

Fabby

@Kiwy Welcome to the world of adults! ;-)

Kiwy

@Fabby I'm 26 and I 've been 3years in part time work/study so I know pretty much well the world of companies and work. Just that I was workling in udge company

Fabby

Same here though:

Ex-dev, ex-SysEng, ex-NetEng

etc...

Kiwy

And it wasn't really interesting

Fabby

Cisco IOS certification is a good thing to have...

Talk to the boss about it that you need a course (or if that fails: a few books)

Start with this book

(who cares whether it'll be company property)

Kiwy

11:06 AM

@Fabby I've the basics of Cisco but I have real issue with the way Cisco organize its configuration

Fabby

That's because it's a mess!

Kiwy

the problem comes more from the IOS than the network I understand pretty well

Fabby

They were first so had to develop from scratch...

For an old fart like me, who's grown up with it, it's no big deal, but I can imagine for a kid like you...

Kiwy

Ask me some quagga and I will be much more comfortable :D

Fabby

... it's totally illogical!

Just work a lot on it and it'll become second nature...

like bash: that's a mess too!

>:)

But very powerful too!

Kiwy

11:09 AM

well it took me less than 2 months of day to day use to understand bash, I work on cisco almost every week for a year and still :D

it's like every time I thing of a way to do things and I need to do the complete contrary :D

Fabby

Yup! I feel your pain... ;-)

Faheem Mitha

@Kiwy udge?

Kiwy

@FaheemMitha hudge udge huge don't remeber the orthograph

I'm probably wrong :D

Faheem Mitha

@Kiwy Oh, you meant huge? As in large/big?

Kiwy

@FaheemMitha indeed

Faheem Mitha

11:15 AM

@Kiwy ok

Kiwy

\ (^_^)/

Kiwy

12:05 PM

F*** Me this was not etcckecker, but ETCKeeper

etckeeper

etckeeper.branchable.com

Though it's finally not exactly what I want to do :-D

derobert

4:03 PM

@Kiwy I use etckeeper everywhere. It's pretty nice, especially if you go through the effort of manually committing your changes (with a real description) instead of just letting the daily cronjob, pre/post install, etc. hooks do it all

terdon

@JNat Well, he used to live here but he's been very busy in real life lately so he comes in far less often to chat.

JNat

@terdon I've asked around at IRC in the meantime, and there seems to be a consensus that 7 is probably the best choice going forward.

terdon

Sounds reasonable

JNat

I thought the same :)

derobert

4:21 PM

@JNat 7 what?

JNat

CentOS

cuonglm

@terdon: are you there?

JNat

@derobert 6 vs 7

yesterday, by JNat

Hey everyone! Quick question: I had been studying for a certification, and having chosen CentOS as my distribution, the version that would be used in the test would be 6.4. I had to suspend my studying for a while, but now I wanted to pick it back up. It was recently announced that I can use either CentOS 6 or CentOS 7 — as I'm going to pick it back up, I'll essentially be starting from scratch, sooo.... Are there any reasons in particular why I should stick to 6 or change to 7?

derobert

@JNat Ah, yeah, makes sense.

derobert

7:11 PM

Wow, people still run UUCP? [re: unix.stackexchange.com/questions/219324/…

casey

7:50 PM

@derobert and some people are still running unshadowed password files and ok posting them in public. (re unix.stackexchange.com/questions/219260 ). I'm tempted to reply to his question "are these password bogus?" with "nope, your root password is XYZ, certainly not bogus"

derobert

8:06 PM

@casey I think you should... at least tell OP he needs to change the password, now.

casey

@derobert i have john ripping it as we speak just for that purpose.

the lp account password took microseconds to crack "passwd1"

derobert

highly secure.

casey

i'm waiting for the root pw to post, I figure that will be more effective than just "change it now!"

derobert

it has both letters and numbers. If it were pa%%wd1, it'd be ultimately secure with letters, numbers, and symbols

casey

:)

derobert

8:09 PM

I'm hoping from the question that the OP is trying to recover data off some old machine he found in an attic, so disclosure of the passwords doesn't matter.

casey

that is my thought. "need to boot" implies to me it hasn't been running for a while and with non-shadowed password and ksh, perhaps a very long time.

Braiam

8:50 PM

some food for thought:

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HarryCBurn

9:03 PM

Hey, I don't suppose anyone minds giving me a hand with something? Some drivers aren't installing, and as a result not claiming my WiFi card, so I can't use WiFi.

So in basic terms, I'd like some help installing these drivers which refuse to :)

Faheem Mitha

@HarryCBurn Ask a question on the site. Don't forget to mention the distribution.

HarryCBurn

(I feel as though it wouldn't fit the format of Unix.SE, since I'd need to give more information than I know how to get. Although I guess I could try.)

^ Beat me to it :)

Sure, I'll ask now.

casey

@HarryCBurn if people need more information they'll prompt you for it in the comments and probably supply commands for you to run to gather it.

Faheem Mitha

@HarryCBurn You can stay in chat in case people have questions.

Actually, you should stay in chat.

HarryCBurn

I plan on it c: Just scanning SE for any related questions.

There's some related questions, but with different issues and solutions.

derobert

9:25 PM

Some of the related questions will hopefully give you an idea of what information is required.

HarryCBurn

Yeah, I tried to include as much relevant information as I could.

Ah, forgot lsusb.

Anything I forgot?

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Q: Why is my WiFi card unclaimed by drivers in UbuntuMATE?

The title says the main issue, my Realtek 802.11n WiFi card isn't being claimed by the drivers from here. I installed led the drivers using the install.sh script given in the decompressed tar.gz. *-usb:4 UNCLAIMED description: Generic USB device product: 802.11n NIC ...

casey

10:06 PM

@HarryCBurn what happened when you ran the install.sh script? Did it work? were there errors? did the module load properly? (lsmod and look for rtlXXXX or similar drivers)

HarryCBurn

@casey I didn't see any errors, not sure if it loaded properly, but there's no rtl... type item in lsmod.

Want me to run install.sh and get the output?

casey

did you see "Compile make driver ok!!" ?

HarryCBurn

Not sure. I'll run it again.

casey

im also not sure that is the right driver for that dongle. googling the usb id suggests its some variant of 8192, but tbh I have no idea. How did you end up deciding to use this driver?

HarryCBurn

Only drivers I cam across.

Getting logs for you now, I got an error.

tar: rtl8712_8188_8191_8192SU_usb_linux_v2.6.6.0.20120405/wpa1.conf: time stamp 2012-04-05 03:42:09 is 1333588869.902553677 s in the future
tar: rtl8712_8188_8191_8192SU_usb_linux_v2.6.6.0.20120405/wpa1.conf: Cannot change ownership to uid 400, gid 401: Operation not permitted
rtl8712_8188_8191_8192SU_usb_linux_v2.6.6.0.20120405/xmit/
rtl8712_8188_8191_8192SU_usb_linux_v2.6.6.0.20120405/xmit/rtl8712_xmit.c
tar: rtl8712_8188_8191_8192SU_usb_linux_v2.6.6.0.20120405/xmit/rtl8712_xmit.c: time stamp 2012-04-05 03:42:13 is 1333588873.89712326 s in the future

The error is at the bottom.

There was loads of the ownership errors before that.

So i'm assuming the issue is bash not finding the command.

@casey I take it I should update my question?

casey

10:29 PM

@HarryCBurn you need make and a compiler to build that driver. apt-get install build-essentials might get you what you need

but there might be a better way since you are on a Rpi that doesn't involve building on the device, but not sure

HarryCBurn

@casey The issue with that is that I need an internet connection to do that. Any way I can install directly from a tarball?

casey

not unless you find a tarball with a driver built against your kernel which is feasible if you are using a distro kernel

I'd also look into finding a rtl8192 driver (not sure which variant though) to try

perhaps rtl8192cu

but perhaps not

HarryCBurn

github.com/pvaret/rtl8192cu-fixes

?

:v

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