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12:42 AM
Apparently the paper size thing is an open bug. yay.
 
> Works for me on Linux / 28.0.1485.0. Can you try Google Chrome Canary on Mac and see if it behaves better?
 
@Braiam What works for you? I don't have a mac.
My question is basically
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Q: How to change default page print size in chrome

Ieyasu SawadaIs it possible to change the default page print size in Chrome? I'm printing the webpage to a pdf file and it seems that the size is letter. I want to be able to change that to A4. Or if there are any chrome extensions that you know that will make this possible. I've seen one extension but it can...

But the answers here are nonsense.
 
1:27 AM
dumbest answer.
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A: How to deal with a student who harasses the (inexperienced) teacher during class?

GirthwormYou should harass the student back. The best way to do this is to determine something that would really hit home. For instance, if the student is a minority, you could retort with something racially offensive.

 
2:06 AM
why I get score in the OS's I don't use? Raspbian, Fedora, Mint, CentOS... sighs
 
@Ramesh I suspect that's trolling.
 
 
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7:45 AM
@terdon @slm @derobert @Gilles Is a question about "Chromium print to pdf not allowing one to set the default page size" ok to ask on unix.sx?
 
 
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9:39 AM
unix.stackexchange.com/q/148917/72471 does this question/answer look like a review of hardware?
 
10:34 AM
@FaheemMitha Sure, as long as it's chromium on *nix.
@polym Well, yes, but it looks like a good one. The whole thing seems perfectly on topic to me.
 
10:49 AM
@terdon It's Chromium on Debian. And thanks.
 
11:40 AM
@Braiam please don't change Unix to UNIX. All caps is the trademark, AT&T version. Unix commands should be Unix commands, not UNIX commands.
Hmm, though this site recommends unix instead. Whatever, not UNIX.
 
@terdon I'm using Stack Exchange Post Editor, it changes it
 
@Braiam Oh? Really? Whose?
Also, @Braiam, re your answer for the ssh port question, you don't want /etc/ssh/ssh_config but /etc/ssh/sshd_config
Note that the output you show has the line commented.
 
/ @description By TomWij on GitHub. Using Jakub Hampl & Nathan Osman's framework to create a Super User specific Automatic Corrector.
 
@Braiam Huh, that's the one I use too. I'll fix that.
Oh, and how do you get the port from the lsof output? It doesn't show it for me.
$ sudo lsof -i | grep ssh
sshd      20196     root    3u  IPv4 3532528      0t0  TCP *:ssh (LISTEN)
sshd      20196     root    4u  IPv6 3532530      0t0  TCP *:ssh (LISTEN)
 
@terdon you have the process started?
 
11:50 AM
See above. I tested on 3 different machines, none of them shows the port.
 
> *:ssh ¬_¬
it's resolving the port number
 
Yes, exactly. No port shown.
netstat shows it but lsof does not.
 
lsof -Pi
the port is shown, but as ssh instead of the number
 
Hod do I install eclipse ide without JDK and stuff. I already have Oracle Java and AndroidStudio installed on my system; Ubuntu
*how
 
@Braiam Yup, the P shows the port.
 
11:53 AM
> -P inhibits the conversion of port numbers to port names for network files. Inhibiting the conversion may make lsof run a little faster. It is also useful when port name lookup is not working properly.
 
Ah, cool, makes sense.
@reversiblean "and stuff"? How did you try to install?
 
i tried apt-get install eclipse
I just need the ide since I already have Oracle Java and all necessary SDKs
 
@reversiblean And it pulled in various other dependencies? They're probably needed then. Did you install Oracle's JDK?
 
yup, I'm running AndroidStudio with JDK
 
@reversiblean If you are going to install manually Oracle Java you need to install manually eclipse
APT isn't aware of what you did manually
 
11:59 AM
^^
@Braiam you think it might be possible to tweak the alternative systems to make this work?
 
thanks, I'll see
 
@terdon you mean having two versions of java?
 
@Braiam I mean having the manually installed JDK as the default via the alternatives system. I don't know much about it so I may be talking crap bu perhaps you can trick apt into thinking the dependency is satisfied if you set the Oracle one as default through alternatives.
 
hey, does Eclipse include JDK by default? Why it's 204 MB then?
apt-get only total about 240 MB
it even includes OpenJDK + 120 more packages
 
@terdon that's not gonna fly
 
12:07 PM
anyone know how to show japanese chars on linux?
 
@user44517 they should be shown without fiddling around, what DE you use?
 
@user44517 In what context? Which program?
 
i am using terminal
SSH to server
and server using tomcat
i am trying to tail the log
 
@user44517 gnome terminal? bash?
 
Which terminal emulator? What system are you connecting from?
 
12:09 PM
server using centos
 
@user44517 you sure those a japanese letters?
 
Try enabling the right encoding in gnome-terminal
 
yeah sure
the is the real file
 
UTF should do japanese right?
 
12:10 PM
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Q: Characters encodings supported by more, cat and less

Manuel SelvaI have a text file encoded as following according to file: ISO-8859 text, with CRLF line terminators This file contains French's text with accents. My shell is able to display accent and emacs in console mode is capable of correctly displaying these accents. My problem is that more, cat an...

 
袂 < do you see this @user44517?
 
yes i see that
but when i upload it to centos
it mess
 
then is a problem between your centos, tail, and your terminal
 
how to?
 
your client is capable of recognize them
 
12:12 PM
@user44517 read the Q&A I posted. You should be able to just choose the right encoding for your terminal and it will work.
 
990 Answers
wow
 
@user44517 ?
 
too many
 
@user44517 I count 3
 
12:16 PM
990 answers where? Anyway, just look at the image in mine. It really doesn't get much simpler than that:
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A: Characters encodings supported by more, cat and less

terdonYour shell can display accents etc because it is probably using UTF-8. Since the file in question is a different encoding, less more and cat are trying to read it as UTF and fail. You can check your current encoding with echo $LANG You have two choices, you can either change your default encod...

 
wah
let me try that
 
@user44517 I have more than 990 answers! :) I'm at 1056!
 
yeah thats why i am surprised
i thought you want me to check that 990 answer
 
No, just that single one.
 
lol
 
12:20 PM
So, did changing the encoding work?
 
no i guess
 
@user44517 What did you set it to? Also, what is the output of file /path/to/logfile?
 
i think its the serverfault
 
Please copy/paste directly here instead of posting images. Just use the "fixed text" button that appears on the right after you paste.
 
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Exception in thread "Thread-16" java.lang.StringIndexOutOfBoundsException: String index out of range: -13
at java.lang.String.substring(String.java:1911)
at asia.diginiq.service.impl.ImporterServiceImpl$ReadCSVTHread.run(ImporterServiceImpl.java:142)
 
12:26 PM
Also, please answer my 2 questions.
 
yep
^ 0_0 disappear
that character is disappear
 
3 mins ago, by terdon
@user44517 What did you set it to? Also, what is the output of file /path/to/logfile?
 
log file is server output
actually i made it
the application but application itself cant handle japanese
i am trying so many tutorial to handle but still not works
i am using apache tomcat
same with this i think i it worth to try
 
@user44517 1) what did you change the encoding to? 2) What is the output of file /path/to/logfile? That will tell us the encoding of the file.
 
i dont know what is that encoding of fil
how to check it?
 
12:33 PM
Hello
Can you take a look on this question:
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Q: Low performace of Intel Haswell HD Graphic 4600 in 3D Games

Ty221I have a notebook (Lenovo IdeaPad G510) with Linux Debian Jessie. It has got a built-in, integrated GPU - Intel Haswell HD Graphic 4600. I've read postive opinions about the GPU, it has got good performance for 3D games like Battlefield 3 (~35-40 FPS). But in my case that doesn't look plausib...

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i will struggle to find , thanks btw terdon
 
@user44517 You need to run that command. for example, if your log file is /var/log/foo.log, you need to run file /var/log/foo.log.
Again please tell me what encoding you changed your terminal to
 
> Instead of figuring out the root problem I'd rather implement this since it should be a quick fix.
...
 
1:23 PM
@terdon, there was no need to migrate unix.stackexchange.com/posts/148983/revisions to Stack Overflow. I flagged it as a duplicate of unix.stackexchange.com/questions/57172/fork-call-and-recursion
 
@CristianCiupitu I hadn't seen the flag but both questions are off topic here. They have nothing to do with *nix. They are pure C.
 
but they're using Unix API. I remember there was something about this on the meta, what's on and what's off-topic.
 
Yes, but no Unix api here, just a simple fork call. It's a general programming concept.
I closed the other one too by the way :)
 
1:43 PM
@CristianCiupitu sounds like I was wrong. I did not know that fork was specific to *nix. I guess that's what you meant by "using Unix API.".
 
@CristianCiupitu Sorry about that then, my bad. I reopened the closed one since it's too old to migrate and I now know it's on topic. Can't take the migration back but I think it is a better fit for SO anyway.
 
2:02 PM
no problem, at least you've learned something
by the way, this is what I had in mind a couple of minutes ago:
http://meta.unix.stackexchange.com/questions/314/unix-c-api-calls-ontopic and
http://meta.unix.stackexchange.com/questions/2875/is-the-unix-c-api-still-on-topic
 
@CristianCiupitu I know, I remember the question. I just didn't know that fork() was part of it.
 
2:50 PM
Do we have a good "how do I parse CSV on the command line?" question I can close unix.stackexchange.com/review/low-quality-posts/57248 as a duplicate of?
 
@derobert we need several "How to parse X on the command line?" questions... it will not be fun
 
Yeah. Plop parse CSV into the search box, and its scary...
 
@derobert I will take that as face value and not do it
 
Indeed, you should not. I did it, and now I'll need psychological counseling.
 
3:12 PM
 
@Caleb I'm tempted to ask Mathematics if that's actually correct....
 
Anyone come across this comedy piece?
@derobert I don't think si.
@derobert any idea about my Chromium question?
 
@FaheemMitha NSA has trouble with A4 paper so asked Google to always use US Letter?
 
A hilbert space is just a vector space with an inner product, which is complete.
@derobert Not helpful.
 
@FaheemMitha The NSA never is.
@FaheemMitha on a serious note, though, I think that's a GTK feature. Or whatever GTK apps use for their print dialog. It's in Chromium, Firefox, gimp, ...
But it's not like that in Qt apps. So its probably a GNOME or GTK thing
 
3:23 PM
@derobert Not sure what you mean.
 
Well, it's a GTK or GNOME feature, so that's probably where the setting is
 
Hilbert spaces are pretty much always infinite-dimensional. A version control system isn't, in any sense of the word.
@derobert Oh. I don't use GNOME. Why is Chromium affiliated with those?
Actually, HS are surprisingly common in mathematics.
@derobert in any case, how would one change it?
 
anthony@Zia:~$ ldd /usr/lib/chromium/chromium | grep -i gtk
        libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 (0x00007fad888fe000)
... it's using GTK.
 
Isn't it GNOME that went insane a little while ago?
@derobert Ah, good detective work.
GTK was developed as part of GIMP, as I remember, so circa 1995. It's actually older than GNOME.
 
Yeah. It was originally the GIMP tool kit
 
3:30 PM
How time flies.
 
I want to ask a question but not sure if it is appropriate. I do not see dupe, but was wondering if anyone knew if there was a dupe (off hand)
 
@NoTime What is it about?
 
@derobert is it not still the GIMP tool kit?
 
Q?= Can I copy system drivers from my debian system to ubuntu system (same computer)
like will it work, its for my touchpad
 
@casey I have no idea. I hear complaints that its more and more becoming the GNOME Tool Kit (usually followed by porting to Qt)
 
3:32 PM
@NoTime On topic and not a dupe I remember (there may be one). However, you will need to specify what drivers and what exactly you mean by drivers.
 
@NoTime if they are the same kernel versions you can probably get away with it.
 
its for Elantech touchpad (I can run the command again)
 
@derobert that file it is linking to is in libgtk2.0-0
 
I guess it wouldn't be the driver... sorry its the config file
 
@casey It probably is, but now people just don't expand the acronym.
 
3:33 PM
sorry I am thinking windows not linux/unix today
 
@NoTime What file? Config files are usually 100% portable between linuxes and more so between Debian and Ubuntu.
 
Like KDE, which once upon a time, briefly, meant Kool Development Environment (see the initial accouncement). It's too embarassing to remember, so now everyone just calls it KDE.
 
More importantly, worst thing that could happen is that it doesn't work and you revert. Just try it.
 
@NoTime Yeah, you can typically copy config files. You may need to change a path (though probably not between Debian and Ubuntu). And yes, that'd be an on-topic question here.
 
@derobert thats why everyone should start with Qt!
 
3:34 PM
its from Xorg confg
 
@NoTime Don't copy, just install the same package (or possibly recompile/rebuild).
 
but debian doesn't have the file, I'd have to create the dir
 
@FaheemMitha with KF5, KDE doesn't even refer to the software anymore, just the foundation that oversees it
 
@casey Oh?
 
@casey Hey, 10 (ok, maybe 15) years ago you wrote your app against GTK if you wanted it to look nice, or Qt if you wanted it to like terrible and break every minor revision of gcc (because that's what C++ was like in gcc back then).
 
3:36 PM
@NoTime look, if you're asking questions, you need to tell use everything. You keep adding details. 1st you said you want to copy from Debian to Ubuntu then you talked about drivers, then a touchpad config file, now its an xorg.conf?
 
@FaheemMitha well technically it is "KDE Frameworks" and "Plasma" now, so there is a KDE in there still
 
What are you actually trying to do? Neither Debian nor Ubuntu have an xorg.conf by default.
 
@NoTime time to ask a question on the site, I think.
 
I will try to put it on site, and add everything
 
@derobert well, every c++ app had that problem during that era of GCC
 
3:37 PM
@casey Yes, C++ used to be really unstable.
 
ABI change on every point release!
 
@terdon I think he's trying to configure the touchpad. Which is normally done in by plopping a file in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/
 
@FaheemMitha oh I know, I was using c++ compilers before the standard was even formalized in c++98
 
@derobert Agreed.
 
wiki.debian.org/SynapticsTouchpad is where I was looking for answer, but Xorg.conf is not on there like you said, my lappy is ubuntu pre-config, so everything worked right, but people had same problem with same model and not pre-configured.. so I'll post this as question
 
3:37 PM
@casey Yep. And Qt was (and still is) C++. The C ABI was mostly stable.
 
@casey Ooh, long time.
C++ used to be unstable, now it is just horrific. I guess that's progress.
@NoTime Do you have this working on Ubuntu?
 
@FaheemMitha yes perfect
 
yep, modern c++ is a beast. I barely recognize valid c++11 / c++14 draft code
 
@derobert Or just in xorg.xonf itself. I guess so too but it was not very clear.
 
@NoTime Then copying over the config should be trivial.
 
3:39 PM
my c++ was always "c style c++" since I was coming from C and people were still figuring out c++ at the time
 
@NoTime you can safely copy the file over and create the /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/ if it is not there.
 
Ubuntu is a Debian derivative, as i'm sure you are aware.
 
ok yes, I just wanted to make sure
 
@FaheemMitha Watch out, if you insult it too much, it'll attack you with a template error. And those are normally fatal.
 
@NoTime Just make sure to keep backups of everything.
 
3:40 PM
I figured since ubuntu was deb derived it should be ok, but I wanted to be sure
 
@NoTime Whatever files in /etc/ you alter.
@derobert I'm not afraid. I know how to tame the beast.
 
@NoTime It would be OK for any Linux really.
That's nothing to do with the specific distributions.
 
yeah I can do backups it should be ok, do you think I need reset or just disable psmouse or whatever
 
@terdon There could be version differences, but I guess xorg is quite stable now.
 
Luckily I have same exact computer
 
3:42 PM
@FaheemMitha Faheem Mitha attacks C++ with typename for 30
 
@FaheemMitha Shouldn't affect the config files. They've been basically the sam,e format for more than 10 years now. They've just been split into the subdirectories but I don't use that and have a monolithic xorg.conf that works fine.
 
@derobert typename for 30 ?
 
would doing full /etc swap/overwrite work?
 
@terdon ok
 
typenames? get ready for concepts
 
3:43 PM
@NoTime Eek. No.
 
heh
 
@FaheemMitha typename being the weapon, and 30 being how many HP of damage it did
 
Just copy that one config file over. Keep a copy of the original.
@derobert HP?
The intellectual pressure of this conversation is getting to me.
 
@FaheemMitha hit points. I guess you've never played an RPG.
 
@NoTime consider putting /etc under version control. etckeeper does a reasonable job. you can also DIY of course.
 
3:44 PM
@FaheemMitha hit points!
 
@derobert No, I had a sad, lonely childhood without any computer games. <sobs>
 
@FaheemMitha Not too late to rectify that... :-)
 
@FaheemMitha bah, pen and paper RPGs are where its at
 
I want to keep my debian as clean as possible, but the mouse is bugging me, I mess with my ubuntu more
 
@derobert Many years too late. :-)
@casey Oh, really?
 
3:45 PM
@casey Wow, doing 30 points in most of those would make typename a powerful weapon, indeed.
 
So, print configs, people. How do I fix it?
 
@derobert my fireballs barely do that much, it would be powerful indeed
 
Reading README.Debian for GTK now. They are generally useless, though
As long as one doesn't actually have to do anything, you don't realise how terrible (read non-existent) the documentation is.
 
@FaheemMitha gtk docs? There is probably a separate package just for gtk documentation
 
@casey Called what, I wonder. Ok, afk for a bit
 
3:51 PM
> libgtk-3-doc - documentation for the GTK+ graphical user interface library
 
but that is going to be C API documentation
most likely, not sure what kind of docs you are looking for
@FaheemMitha ^^^ just so you find it when you aren't AFK anymore
 
I really need to learn more about linux
I need to find a file so I can RTFM on where my configuration file for the touchpad is (everything I am reading online has synaptics touchpad which points to xorg.conf.d, which I do not have) I would rather keep the same files (that I do not know) and just modify the configuration in that file.
 
@NoTime man xorg.conf
 
@Braiam in X11/etc/ ?
I don't have that
 
4:03 PM
@NoTime the best I've found is were the nvidia docs on their driver. They have the best explanation of the xorg.conf setup and format I've seen. Try to look for that. And @Braiam meant open a terminal and run man xorg.conf.
 
ok
gotcha heh
 
@NoTime all touchpads for X will be configured in that file. The key is searching for your specific touchpad and what configuration options it takes
 
I have it I did egrep -i '...' for /proc/.../devices/ (elipses to shorten command)
 
@casey Thanks
Wow, the Indian debian ml has been really busy these last couple of days. Usually, there is like zero traffic.
 
raid 5 write operation is slower than raid 1 write operation?
 
4:11 PM
@Ramesh That depends...
 
ok I got it I should had to look in /usr/share/X11/... that makes sense :)
 
RAID5 has to do extra work (parity calculation). But RAID5 may also be striping across more disks.
 
but raid 1 has mirroring, right? so how raid 1 can be efficient than raid 5?
 
@Ramesh define efficient
and I think the performance will depend on your array setup
 
@casey, you sound like my professor :P
 
4:21 PM
my raid 5 gets better read/write than my raid 1
 
By efficient, I mean better time performance.
 
any my raid 5 is across 4 disks, where the raid 1 is 2 disks
 
Still trying to figure out the chromium print thing. Pain in the rear.
Should I be trying to use a GNOME 3 config tool to change the default paper settings?
 
Evening !
 
so each desktop has its own file manager is it?
I mean, I just found that nautilus is the file manager for gnome.
Do we have similar file managers for KDE as well?
 
4:25 PM
@FaheemMitha @casey @derobert How are you guys?
 
@LittleChild Ok, thanks.
 
@Ramesh KDE uses dolphin
each DE will have its own suite of apps generally. Its part of what makes them a DE and not a WM
 
@casey, thanks for the info.
so basically it will be stored under /usr/share/applications, is it?
 
Hello, people! I was wondering if any of you could point out how I could ask a better question in future. I'm very familiar with asking questions on my main site (dba.stackexchange.com) but it seems I may be overlooking something here:
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Q: Is there a way to prevent a non-terminal-attached process from executing 'who' inside my .envfile?

Max VernonI made some modifications to the /home/user/.envfile so the PS1 prompt would show date/time as well as the pwd etc. The modification is: # `who am i` is used to obtain the name of the original user case `who am i | awk '{print $1}'` in 'someuser') #set the prompt to include the date...

 
4:30 PM
@MaxVernon, sometimes it happens. I did not find anything wrong with your question. So just ignore the downvotes :)
 
@Ramesh I typically do, but I like to think I'm asking the right stuff, and not being stupid.
We see so many poorly written questions, and typically never downvote them unless they are totally unintelligible.
 
@derobert I'm not making any headway with the print config thing. Any specific suggestions?
 
Just trying to get a feel for the culture over here.
 
Anyone here who is a GNOME user?
 
The regular users always provide reasons in case they are downvoting something.
 
4:32 PM
I am on GNOME 3
 
@FaheemMitha Not really. If I knew how to do it, I would have answered the question :-(
 
thanks for the upvotes if any of you just did that.
 
And as far as the culture goes, you should hang over here to get to know how wonderful the culture is over here :)
 
@derobert Fair enough. I'm wondering if it is a blind alley.
@MaxVernon People don't often downvote here - it is not a very aggressive place. Of course, there is sometimes the occasional loony wandering around. Don't let it bother you too much.
 
@FaheemMitha Eventually it ends with apt-get source libgtk2.0-0 ...
 
4:34 PM
@derobert Huh?
Oh, you mean look at the source. Not sure that would help.
 
@MaxVernon no idea why that would have been downvoted. And twice no less. Perhaps people really object to your, admittedly complex, way of getting the username but that's just ridiculous. First of all, it's a perfectly valid way, just more complex than necessary (whoami or $USER for example) but even if it weren't, you're asking not answering.
 
@FaheemMitha Well, ultimately, it must contain the answer to how that default comes about
 
Anyway, it's a perfectly good question, don't sweat it. Just classic random SE downvotes.
 
@terdon that's what I figured.
 
I find lots of stuff about GTK's APIs, but nothing about printer settings.
 
4:36 PM
so annoying mouse is not working even after replacing xorg.conf.d files
doing hard reboot
 
@FaheemMitha Yep, that's what I found when I searched.
If I were having the problem, RTFS would be the next thing I'd try :-(
 
@derobert Hmm. Wonder if I should try a Chromium specific forums.
 
@NoTime Did you restart the X server?
 
@derobert Read The Fine Source?
But it's full of C!
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@terdon did restart of x and just did hard reboot
 
4:38 PM
@FaheemMitha classic!
 
@FaheemMitha Yes. Though depending on how frustrated I was at that point, it might be an different word than fine beginning with the same letter.
 
@MaxVernon :-)
 
@NoTime No difference?
 
@derobert heh
 
@terdon same results, I did copy from the usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/ configuration files (they were different)
 
4:40 PM
@NoTime What do the X logs say?
 
what do I tail?
I am very new to all the commands needed to check
is it in var logs?
 
@NoTime What? Why? Those are just examples.
 
@NoTime /var/log/Xorg.0.log
See what is says about the mouse
 
@NoTime the best thing at this point would be for you to post a Q on the main site. Show us your Ubuntu /etc/X11/xorg.conf file and any files in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/. Tell us exactly what you copied from where to where and show the contents of /var/log/Xorg.0.log and maybe ~/.xsession.errors.
 
I see Tim is outdoing himself.
 
4:45 PM
@FaheemMitha I hope I didn't just get suckered by that.
 
@FaheemMitha How so?
 
@terdon ok I do not have a conf file in /etc/X11/
 
@NoTime Yes, that's normal. OK, post a question and show us everything I asked for above (except maybe the logs at this point) and show the contents of 1) /etc/X11/xorg.conf (or mention that none exists) and /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d on both systems, specifying which one is the good one.
If neither system has any xorg.conf or xorg.conf.d files, then it's not being done through xorg but through udev. In that case, we will need to see the contents of /etc/udev/rules.d and any files in there that look like they deal with your touchpad.
 
@terdon yes I understand, no conf on either system, however those conf in usr/share
ok udev is correct
I can look there
after I did tail from grepping my ETPS/2
in var logs
 
@NoTime Ah, OK. ignore them then. Those are not being used ('cause they're not in /etc/X11).
 
4:49 PM
posting question
 
@terdon, spam alert\
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A: Why is "shebang" called "shebang"?

zedLet me be almost frivolous for you. https://lmddgtfy.net/?q=shebang

 
@NoTime Forget about all the xorg stuff I asked for then, just show us /etc/udev/rules.d
 
ok
 
@terdon shebang or hebang? you choose.
 
:)
 
4:55 PM
So, @MaxVernon, visiting from dba?
I like the bow tie. Don't see many of those these days.
 
So any musicians here?
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A: Why is "shebang" called "shebang"?

RameshAnother interesting name derivation from here. Among UNIX shell (user interface) users, a shebang is a term for the "#!" characters that must begin the first line of a script. In musical notation, a "#" is called a sharp and an exclamation point - "!" - is sometimes referred to as a ban...

Is that true?
 
@Ramesh I don't think that terminology is especially musical.
But, yeah the sharp bit is correct at least. Just might be a term used elswhere too.
 
@FaheemMitha, it says,
In musical notation, a "#" is called a sharp and an exclamation point - "!" - is sometimes referred to as a bang. Thus, shebang becomes a shortening of sharp-bang
 
@Ramesh Yes, I read it.
 
So I was wondering if # and ! are used in musical notation.
 
4:58 PM
@Ramesh the former is, at least
Perhaps Tim's question will get 100 upvotes too. Even though it is not about cows.
 
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