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slm
12:12 AM
@mikeserv @terdon - I could definitely see terdon being a mod.
 
@slm - me too. The man is sensible and fair.
 
@mikeserv shh, he will cry of the emotion :P
 
@slm - give me an upvote? My last few answers haven't been very good - except the one from last night - that was good - but you pushed me past 2k and 3k, so... do it for 4k too, yeah?
@Braiam - If anyone starts crying, I'm outta here. I can't handle crying - I'll be back later.
 
slm
12:28 AM
all set
 
Thanks @slm. As always - that was better than I expected.
 
slm
@mikeserv - good A's as always...get ya started for 5k
 
Some were better than others. I was surprised that one bash history one wasn't seen more. I mean.... it had a screenshot.
 
Sigh. I am trying to make Dropbox not run on startup but failing so far. Fedora here. "dropbox autostart n" seems to not do the trick. Do you think this is worth a question on the site?
 
@Rojo - yes.
 
12:38 AM
@mikeserv Thanks
 
I would assume that the answer can also be had in the startup section of your gnome menu
 
@mikeserv Oh, there's a gnome startup. Yes, I'm that new :P. Anyway, I posted the question already so if it's that simple, you can answer or I'll self answer
 
No you can self-answer - I don't even have gnome I didn't know - it was just a good guess.
 
@mikeserv What do you use?
 
Enlightenment.
 
12:48 AM
@mikeserv There was a gnome startup stuff with dropbox in it. Iĺl reboot to confirm and self answer if it works. Thanks
 
Cool.
It might not - thats one of 30 or 40 different places it might need changing.
 
1:04 AM
@mikeserv The word “BIOS” has two meanings. It always designates the last manufacturer-provided bootloading stage of a PC's main CPU, the one that interacts with the first bootloading stage of the operating system, hereafter called PCLMPBS. There are two kinds of PCLMPBS out there: IBM-compatible, and UEFI.
The word “BIOS” can mean either an IBM-compatible PCLMPBS, or any PCLMPBS.
The term “UEFI BIOS” is used by people who write that software. It's used by people who write UEFI specifications.
Whether you want it or not.
You don't get to impose your language choices on other people, especially when those people are professionals and you aren't.
 
The word BIOS refers to a 16-bit system for handling the booting of a system.
 
Again, no. Your usage differs from that of the professionals.
 
@Gilles - I'm not imposing anything.
No, I am not.
My usage comes from the professionals' own website.
 
If a professional uses the term UEFI BIOS he/she does it incorrectly and probably knowingly so just for the layman's sake.
 
1:07 AM
these are citations from two professionals found by Google
 
The very first paragraph at UEFI.org/faq is:
UEFI is a community effort by many companies in the personal-computer industry to modernize the booting process. UEFI capable systems are already shipping, and many more are in preparation. During the transition to UEFI, most platform firmware will continue to support legacy (BIOS) booting as well, to accommodate legacy-only operating systems.
That is from the professionals' own site - the people that design what you call UEFI BIOS.
 
The UEFI specification itself uses BIOS only in reference to legacy. But the people who write about it, and even the people who write it don't.
I call it “UEFI BIOS” because I heard it from professionals.
And also because it doesn't matter.
 
You're wrong because you're confused - and you're PERPETUATING that confusion.
YES it does matter.
 
Insisting on terminology doesn't make you more intelligent or anything. It only makes it more annoying. Please stop.
 
They're two completely different systems.
No - it doesn't make me intelligent, only correct.
I don't insist YOU use the terminology - only that you don't misinform others.
Please stop.
 
1:11 AM
This isn't the first time that you nitpick about completely unimportant details, where the guy at the other end isn't wrong, just not presenting information in a way you'd like. I'm tired of dealing with this.
 
But it is important.
People don't understand the difference because others generalize.
 
I am now going to ignore you in chat. I can't prevent you from commenting on my posts, but please keep it reasonable.
 
It was reasonable.
It's nice when someone decides to put their head in the sand when confronted with facts instead of acknowledging them.
 
1:30 AM
That's kind of annoying. If I'm corrected I can sometimes put my back up a little at first - it's a pride thing, which I understand - but as a rule I try to understand where it's coming from.
If the correction is correct, and if I'm not too prideful to miss that, then the answer I've written also gets corrected and winds up better in the long run for the correction. Everyone benefits.
I thought that was the point of this place.
 
slm
I'm staying out of it
I've heard it many ways, and didn't know there was a difference
 
I know @slm - that's the problem.
 
I was curious and queried google trends and "uefi bios" is less popular search term than simply "uefi"
 
The difference is assembly vs C/max 512kb firmware vs 4 maybe 8mb firmware/25 years/16 vs 64bit architecture...
 
slm
I generally don't pay attention to names in such a specific way.
 
1:42 AM
Well, people don't understand what the firmware on their computer does.
Also, UEFI is not coreboot - but neither is coreboot BIOS.
These are all different.
The intel link he posted is pretty old.
firmware is the general term. BIOS is a type of firmware.
But I was reasonable: my comment - modern pc BIOS is not UEFI - modern pc UEFI is UEFI. I downvoted this because that is a misleading answer to n already too seldom understood question. If you can fix it, I'll reverse it.
 
slm
There are more things to know about then I can fit in my brain, so I generally categorize things into broad areas and will research it if I ever need to actually know about it in a concrete way. I've written my own OS and boot loader in college and so am painfully aware of BIOS etc. But that was 20 yrs ago and I haven't done it since, so no need to know it now.
 
Well, I don't envy you. Though, UEFI is now in C and, as the name implies, it is Extensible - you can write UEFI applications.
My cat is really small.
 
slm
@mikeserv - yeah I've seen a couple of UEFI capable systems, mainly ASUS, and was unimpressed with the direction of the UI
 
All of the other cats in the neighborhood are huge - fat, mutant cats.
I'm unimpressed with the whole idea - as I see it, the firmware should be the linux kernel.
But I'm willing to bet you've seen more than a few.
Pretty much every pc sold for the past few years has been UEFI.
If you can boot a GPT formatted disk it's UEFI.
BIOS requires mbr - UEFI uses the EFI system partition.
That hails back to the 16 vs 64-bit architecture thing - BIOS uses the int[18?] hook to initialize a disk - UEFI can read a FAT formatted partition by spec - and you can write drivers for any other kind of filesystem as well.
This is the best source I know of for knowledge on the subject: rodsbooks.com
Rod Smith has some SU answers too.
Dude is good - he wrote and maintains both gdisk and rEFInd.
 
2:02 AM
Rod Smith is awesome-sauce. I'm surprised he doesn't have an account here.
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slm
Yeah I'm familiar with this site, I use it from time to time when I need to understand things for Q's here.
 
Yeah - awesome sauce is right.
 
yay, SE logged me out of UL
 
Yay.
By the way - rEFInd comes with all kinds of fs drivers - BTRFS, ext4, bla bla.
 
guys, how about migrating this here? stackoverflow.com/q/21617500/792066
 
2:08 AM
Though, Rod borrowed more than a few from the clover project.
@Braiam - agreed.
 
slm
how does a 146k rep not know this?
 
@slm he's asking in a programing website... he doesn't even know where to ask
 
slm
that was my next comment
 
He's very much a Windows user.
 
@slm because he's a Windows guy
@Braiam too old to migrate
 
2:11 AM
In Windows anything that can't be clicked is programming.
 
@Gilles is 6 months no?
 
slm
yeah that's too old
 
the question is only 3 months old
 
@Braiam no, 60 days
@slm the UI is mostly orthogonal with the API. It typically changes because the switch to UEFI has required largely rewriting BIOSes, but some BIOS manufacturers have reused their existing UI components
 
darn, it is a good Q/A
 
2:16 AM
In fact, the BIOS usually isn't rewritten though, but is packaged within the UEFI as the CSM or Compatibility Support Module.
Weird that Gilles refers to them as different things though.
 
how to remove this warning created by awk?
awk: warning: escape sequence \/' treated as plain /'
 
slm
@Gilles Have you had to develop anything that runs within UEFI?
 
@Gilles, are you planning on contesting for the moderator?
 
2:31 AM
me also asking the same.
 
@Braiam good question, but I think a general "what is load" question might be better. The answer there doesn't really explain it, just says it's the size of the run queue. While technically true, that doesn't mean much to the common user.
 
@Patrick yeah, but run of the mill easy question is not really what we thrive for ;)
notes to deactivate the browser sound in pulse when listening a movie
 
I think I put "understanding load" as one of the topics on the blog spreadsheet
 
now can someone explain me why firefox doesn't appear as source in pulse?
can someone ping me?
 
@Braiam
 
2:38 AM
yay
 
@Braiam pinged.
14 mins ago, by Avinash Raj
how to remove this warning created by awk?
I sent the awk warning to /dev/null
 
@AvinashRaj - when @terdon comes round ask him - he's pretty good with awk. Maybe @slm can too - I've seen him use awk before, but not to the extent I've seen terdon use it.
I've already told you how completely useless I am with it, but my first suggestion would be to use / not \/.
 
or use quotations
 
i a gsub command, i need to escape the forward slash,
gsub (/<\/font>/,"",$4);
otherwise it won't work.
 
How about \\\/font?
 
2:44 AM
$ awk -F '<\/td><td>' 'BEGIN{OFS=FS;} {gsub (/<font style=BACKGROUND-COLOR:red>/,"",$4); gsub (/<\\\/font>/,"",$4);}1' hm
awk: warning: escape sequence `\/' treated as plain `/'
<tr><td>FOOBAAR</td><td>FOOO</td><td>BAAR</td><td>2014-02-14 13:34</font></td><td><font style=BACKGROUND-COLOR:red>2014-02-17 13:34</font></td><td><font style=BACKGROUND-COLOR:red>2014-03-07 13:34</font></td></tr>
 
Or... \\/font? I'm way out of my depth though - I don't know...
 
error
if i do the above
$ awk -F '<\/td><td>' 'BEGIN{OFS=FS;} {gsub (/<font style=BACKGROUND-COLOR:red>/,"",$4); gsub (/<\\/font>/,"",$4);}1' hm
awk: warning: escape sequence `\/' treated as plain `/'
awk: cmd. line:1: BEGIN{OFS=FS;} {gsub (/<font style=BACKGROUND-COLOR:red>/,"",$4); gsub (/<\\/font>/,"",$4);}1
awk: cmd. line:1: ^ unterminated regexp
 
Oh, maybe: awk -f 3<<\AWKSCRIPT /dev/fd/3\n...awkscript here...no damn quotes...\nAWKSCRIPT\n
 
what i do is,
$ awk -F '<\/td><td>' 'BEGIN{OFS=FS;} {gsub (/<font style=BACKGROUND-COLOR:red>/,"",$4); gsub (/<\/font>/,"",$4);}1' hm 2>/dev/null
<tr><td>FOOBAAR</td><td>FOOO</td><td>BAAR</td><td>2014-02-14 13:34</td><td><font style=BACKGROUND-COLOR:red>2014-02-17 13:34</font></td><td><font style=BACKGROUND-COLOR:red>2014-03-07 13:34</font></td></tr>
is possible to combine the above two gsub functions?
 
@slm no, but I've interacted professionally with people who have. Details are both company confidential and confidential to my real world persona.
 
3:07 AM
read: details are unsupported.
 
@AvinashRaj I think you are better off with a real html/xml parser
 
^^^!!!
beautifulsoup comes to mind. I think hivex can do regular xml as well.
One cool thing about being a dad is that I get to watch cartoons after 30 with a clear conscience.
 
 
4 hours later…
7:10 AM
Let's suppose I need to create a named-pipe in linux, but I need that pipe to have attributes such as a file size when I stat it... is that even possible?
 
7:34 AM
@MikePennington no, but maybe you can solve whatever your problem is another way
the killer feature would be FUSE, which lets you program in whatever you want as the file size, the file content, etc. but it may be overkill
 
@Gilles FUSE looks exactly like what I need, and it has python bindings... thank you
 
8:01 AM
@slm I think you would be a great mod, yes. You already are one really, you have the attitude, you just lack the pahwer!
 
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A: RegEx match open tags except XHTML self-contained tags

bobinceYou can't parse [X]HTML with regex. Because HTML can't be parsed by regex. Regex is not a tool that can be used to correctly parse HTML. As I have answered in HTML-and-regex questions here so many times before, the use of regex will not allow you to consume HTML. Regular expressions are a tool th...

@slm I know, I'm pumped! \o/
 
@AvinashRaj The error has nothing to do with the gsub(), it's from the -F:
    $ awk -F '</td><td>' 'BEGIN{OFS=FS;} {gsub (/<font style=BACKGROUND-COLOR:red>/,"a",$5); gsub (/<\/font>/,"",$5);}1' a.htm
<tr><td>FOOBAAR</td><td>FOOO</td><td>BAAR</td><td>2014-02-14 13:34</font></td><td>a2014-02-17 13:34</td><td><font style=BACKGROUND-COLOR:red>2014-03-07 13:34</font></td></tr>
You were also using $4 but meant $5
 
@slm you got a tarball somewhere? :P
 
@AvinashRaj the message is refering to the argument of -F, not to the argument of gsub
it should be awk -F '</td><td>' …
 
8:20 AM
you mean i don't have to escape forward slash inside single quotes of -F parameter?
@Gilles @terdon
 
@AvinashRaj Exactly
The only reason you're escaping it in gsub() is because you're using / as a separator.
Since that is imposed by gsub(), you need to escape any internal /s but there is no reason to in -F
 
@strugee But sed or awk answers are welcomed in SO.
@terdon Thanks for letting me to know.
your's and gilles's avatars are seems to be similar. lol
 
@AvinashRaj you're missing the point, which was that you're using the wrong tool for the job. use a parser.
 
agree.
@strugee are you holding a dinosaur? Oh, i have to be careful while dealing with you.
 
@AvinashRaj :) Not really, his is the reproductive apparatus of a fungus and mine is, well, me.
 
8:33 AM
@AvinashRaj no, people (read: one person) always think that though
it's an OpenSUSE chameleon :)
 
so what's the diff between fungus and mushroom?
 
@AvinashRaj fungus is a class of plants, mushroom is a type of plant
all mushrooms are fungus (fungi?) but not all fungus are mushrooms
 
Umm no, a fungus is a type of life, it is not a plant, it's a fungus.
 
mushrooms ∈ fungi
 
Mushroom is just a popular name for it, it tends to be used for fungi you can eat.
 
8:38 AM
@terdon shoot, you're right
 
@strugee I should bloody well hope so, I'm a biologist ffs! :)
 
the point still stands, though, right?
 
@Gilles you are a real allrounder. What a man you are?
How it's possible?
 
@strugee Yeah, all mushrooms are fungi
 
@terdon awesome
I knew I got the plural wrong
too late to edit most of 'em
 
8:40 AM
:) You only got the 1st wrong
 
@strugee you're dealing with an biology expert.
 
3 mins ago, by strugee
all mushrooms are fungus (fungi?) but not all fungus are mushrooms
that would be 2/3
wrong, I tell you, wrong! :)
@AvinashRaj indeed
I got the ball rolling on our end of that cross-post, btw
close vote cast
 
@strugee Which?
 
@terdon hey
 
17 mins ago, by Avinash Raj
crossposting http://stackoverflow.com/questions/24032183/creating-an-xml-array-with-sed http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/134420/cannot-set-data-in-xml-array-with‌​-sed
 
8:44 AM
@FaheemMitha hello
 
8:55 AM
beautiful:
 
@strugee Having watched this, I still have no idea what it was about.
 
@FaheemMitha net neutrality
the entire thing is worth watching
for so many reasons
 
@strugee Yes, I saw the title. Maybe that end bit is not understandable in isolation.
 
it's preset to the best part though
@FaheemMitha he's talking to internet troll commentors and telling them to go comment on the FCC proposal :D
 
@strugee Ok. I'm not familar with the FCC proposal. I assume this is something recent. Also, not sure what a "troll commentor" is.
 
9:01 AM
@FaheemMitha oh you know, those people who go around saying dumb crap. trolls.
 
@strugee just random morons?
 
@FaheemMitha the FCC proposal is essentially a spit in the face of net neutrality activists
 
Like Youtube commentators? Or not that bad?
 
@FaheemMitha exactly.
 
@strugee I'd expect so. Doesn't the FCC work for the corporations anyway? Do you have a link?
 
9:04 AM
@FaheemMitha lh6.ggpht.com/…
it's disgusting
 
@strugee True, but unfortunately, very typical.
 
@FaheemMitha yeah
 
 
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slm
11:03 AM
@strugee I wish, the floppy that we used to write our OS to stopped working and I tried and tried and couldn't get my coding projects off of it. I was so bummed about b/c I spend soooo much time writing it in MASM/TASM. It was cool. The OS would boot the system and it had several functions that we had to implement. It could send files b/w 2 computers over the serial port + an array of other things.
 
 
4 hours later…
3:08 PM
@mikeserv One should be able to watch cartoons at any age with a clear conscience.
@terdon Is that actually a picture of you?
Or, more precisely, of your guitar?
So, anyone firmed up whether they are going to be running for the moderator job?
@strugee thought of running for moderator?
 
slm
3:21 PM
I'm still weighing it, I'm thinking I might run though.
 
3:32 PM
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Q: php calculation - Why is 1+1=3?

IsmailThe code my friend sends me is: echo '1+1='.(1+1==2?2:1+2==2?3:2); I can't understand why it is 3, can someone explain me this?

 
@slm Curious term in that context. Run. Even less apropos than a normal political election. Virtual running, perhaps?
 
slm
@FaheemMitha - sure, I'm not sure about this jargon...
 
I need to do something productive... maybe I will fix chrome's notifications
 
@slm Well, it is conventional jargon, but always struck me as odd. In English the verb run is used in lots of contexts where there is no running involved. But then natural languages are strange beasts.
Then again, so are computer languages, especially if they are called PHP.
 
@FaheemMitha I think run was just about the longest entry in a dictionary I used to have... they had something like 100 different definitions for it.
Even wiktionary has almost 40
 
3:40 PM
It is somewhat akin to the verb "sleep" being used to mean "sex". As least in the transitive case it is completely overtaken conventional usage. "sleep with" practically never means actually sleeping any more.
@derobert Yes, it is one of those popular terms. And internationally too. English speaking Indians use it a lot too.
@derobert how are you doing? I went ahead and bought the brother printer, though you have probably now forgotten about it.
 
@FaheemMitha Hard to forget about your $500 $100 printer :-/
 
Not sure why this was downvoted. Seems like a reasonable question.
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Q: Why my ethernet interface is called enp0s10 instead of eth0?

Nico RodsevichJust that, when I run ifconfig -a I only get lo and enp0s10 interfaces, not the classical eth0 What does enp0s10 means? Why is there no eth0?

@derobert :-) More like $300 actually.
 
@FaheemMitha so, the important question... does it work?
 
@derobert I haven't received it yet.
Assuming you are talking about the printer, that is. You forgot to do the reply thingy.
 
@FaheemMitha actually the first result of "enp0s10" explains it
 
3:46 PM
@Braiam Oh. Did you downvote then?
 
@FaheemMitha nope, but I'm just stating facts
 
@Braiam ok
 
I'm just saying: I kind of understand why it got downvoted
 
@FaheemMitha Yes, was talking about the printer. It auto-linked to your $300 line here...
 
@derobert hmm, not here.
@derobert if you are interested, i can keep you posted. I might keep you posted even if you are not interested.
 
3:49 PM
 
@FaheemMitha I'm sure you'll keep us all posted. It's a major purchase, after all :-p
 
btw, I don't have those udev rules, does anyone used systemd/udevd does?
 
@derobert well, not necessarily. unless i hapeen to run into problems. A multi-function laser printer isn't interesting, at least any more. Maybe 30 years ago it would have been.
@Braiam wow, 36 answers. Thanks for the link.
I've got to wonder why sex.sx didn't take off. I've never seen a SE topic that seemed more obviously destined for success.
 
@FaheemMitha because nobody was being serious with it
 
@Braiam Were you keeping track?
Actually, there is a currently active proposal.
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Sex and Intimacy

Proposed Q&A site for consenting adults who engage, or want to, in intimate and/or sexual activity.

Currently in definition.

It actually seems to be getting reasonable traction. I wonder if it will make it to Beta.
If memory serves there was at least one previous incarnation of this proposal.
@derobert i considered the Epson line, where the scanner feature seems a little better, more featureful, but the only printers i could find were inkjets, and I'm not fond of inkjets. I guess I could have tried to use it just as a scanner, but finally decided not to.
 
4:02 PM
@FaheemMitha If all you're printing is plain, black text I can see why you don't like inkjets... but for anything else...
 
@derobert Well, I mostly do b&w printing, yes. Once I had a color printer, but never really used it for color.
It was a nice printer, though a bit oversized. Also Brother.
 
I've apparently gone through 700 mL of ink on my HP, for 18150 pages. Most of that a while ago. Got a Nexus 10, then there wasn't much reason to print out huge documents....
 
@derobert The nexus is a b&w laser?
 
@FaheemMitha No, its a tablet.
 
@derobert oh. what does that have to with printing?
 
4:06 PM
300 ppi screen, almost as large as a sheet of paper
 
@FaheemMitha he doesn't have to bring the physical documents with him anymore?
 
text looks about as good on that screen as it does laser printed
 
@Braiam oh, right.
as long as it is light enough. what about dropping it or otherwise breaking it?
 
Thoughts on this question: http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/134493/i-want-to-be-root-on-a-remote-server-until-i-am-disconnected-from-the-remote-ser
I kinda want to say it's another duplicate of http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/134333/can-you-only-input-the-password-once-and-then-execute-the-su-command-without-ent since it's a specific solution to the question, but I'm unsure.
 
@FaheemMitha That'd suck. Yeah, have to be careful not to drop it (or spill water on it, etc.)
@Patrick Same OP. Apparently not happy with the non-answers he/she got on the first question.
 
4:10 PM
@derobert he's already duped once: unix.stackexchange.com/questions/134480/…
 
Appears OP needs some education about not re-asking the same question :-(
I'm tempted to dupe the old one to the new one, as the newest seems the clearest statement of the OP's problem.
unix.stackexchange.com/users/68857/… ... wow, looks like the most recent 5 questions really all ought to have been one question.
 
yeah, he needs to ask one question with what he's trying to do, not a bunch of questions about parts of what he thinks he needs to do
 
wait, more than 5...
 
@FaheemMitha Yup. Me and my guitar.
 
@terdon Artistic.
 
4:21 PM
@FaheemMitha Nah, I move a lot when I play.
 
@terdon so, what we are seeing is just a blur?
 
@terdon You need to upload a video to youtube.
 
I should find some messages from days ago to reply to :-P
 
@derobert Why?
 
@derobert like this?
 
4:23 PM
@terdon you could entitle it "The Musical Blur".
 
@Braiam Yes, because of the movement.
@FaheemMitha That's my super hero name!
 
@Braiam Yes, but you need to make the reply make sense, but only after chasing down the historical message chain. @terdon seems to be a master of that.
 
@terdon Stellar.
 
@derobert I just see the messages when I wake up or whatever and answer. No tricks involved. Well, none apart from the cool extension that lets me choose which one I'm answering with the up arrow.
 
@terdon so what is your superhero costume?
 
4:29 PM
@FaheemMitha Tsk, nosy.
Just hope you never run in to me while going about your nefarious business.
 
@terdon Not really. Superhero costumes are public.
 
I think I know what it must be. A few moments in GIMP will reveal his non-secret identity.
 
@FaheemMitha True. Anyway, you already know my secret identity... Well, obviously, my costume is made of LaTeX.
 
@terdon :-)
Reading academia.sx is really fun. You get to hear about all the psycho wackjob academics out there.
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Q: Can the communicating author remove some of the authors (4 out of 6) when submitting the second revision of a paper describing a database?

user16074Our paper was due submission for second revision at a BMC journal. The communicating author, as I understand is responsible for handling all the communications between all authors and the journal, while also making suitable arrangement to cover any open access charges. However, the communicatin...

hi @Ramesh
 
Hello @FaheemMitha
 
4:39 PM
@Ramesh what's happening?
 
@FaheemMitha, after reinstallation of RHEL 6, I copied the httpd configuration file from rhel5 to rhel6. However, rhel6 reports me saying mod_file_cache.so is not available. So, investigating that now :)
 
@Ramesh did you check the release notes of apache?
 
@Braiam, I see from this bug that these modules are no longer supported.
 
5:15 PM
Can someone help me debug this output?
I am trying to provide that site as a solution for this question.
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Q: How to find a kernel that works ok on a pc

aleixrocksI have an old laptop. The newer kernels that ships with the latest versions of the most popular distributions crashes from time to time. I want to use a new Linux distribution to get the latest packages and therefore I think that I need an old kernel. (correct me if there is some other solution p...

 
5:36 PM
@Braiam I didn't realize how profitable reposting Code Golf questions is. I'm going to start reposting them in bulk
 
@MichaelMrozek O_O
 
slm
@MichaelMrozek I'm still trying to figure out how SE is going to allow the Sex and Intimacy site.
 
@slm They allowed Politics and Atheism, clearly their craziness knows no bounds
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@terdon having looked at the BA reviews, they seem a bit fussy/demanding. I wonder if Bioinformatics will be less fussy. Would you be willing to take a look at the reviews and tell me what you think?
@Ramesh Did you figure it out?
 
Nopes. I gave the link to the OP in the comments section. I was not sure on how to debug the output and so did not post as an answer :)
 
5:49 PM
@FaheemMitha Sure but I am very unlikely to understand anything. Math is really not my field.
 
@terdon Yeah, I'm just thinking the level of fussiness is beyond what a bioinformatics paper would ask for. For example, of of the reviewers recommend I do additional simulation studies. I really don't want to do additional freaking simulation studies.
 
@FaheemMitha No idea, it always depends on the reviewer you happen upon.
 
So, I'm just asking for a judgement call about the flavor of the reviews. The question at this point is whether to resubmit to BA or resubmit to Bioinformatics. The good news is that BA seems quite fast to respond (unless I just got lucky). Anyway, I'll send you the reviews.
@terdon Maybe to some extent. But I suspect a statistics paper would be a bit more theory oriented.
@terdon the reviewers seem to be making some fairly elementary errors of misunderstandings. i wonder if that is possible. i guess i need to look at these carefully.
During my PhD thesis I had one of my committee members tell me something that sounded like nonsense. It turned out to be true and was the basis of a later paper. So, one should be careful.
 
slm
@terdon - you thinking of being a mod here?
 
@slm Probably, yes, you?
 
slm
6:18 PM
I'm like 55% thinking yes at this point. I'm doing the tasks anyway, just a bit concerned about being a majority answerer + a mod.
 
@slm So, do you plan on becoming drunk with power?
 
slm
6:31 PM
@FaheemMitha - no, I like doing a lot of the grunt work if you haven't already noticed 8-)
 
@slm I haven't, but then I'm not really terribly observant. I have noticed you answer lots of questions, though, but that is kind of hard to miss, even for me.
If all of @slm @terdon and @derobert apply to be moderators, that could get interesting.
 
@FaheemMitha boo, nobody mentions me :(
 
@FaheemMitha mods, you mean?
 
@Braiam you are applying too? but you guarantee to become drunk with power, yes?
 
6:42 PM
@derobert corrected, thanks.
 
slm
SE NY datacenter move to DC
 
@slm That's a lot of pictures.
 
@slm I think they're still in NY ... DC there being 'data center', not Washington DC
(Well, they moved over to the backup in Oregon recently for whatever reason)
 
@derobert because the UPSss problem :P
 
I think they're switching data centers. Hard to blame them, with how backup power works there :-P
82
Q: What happens when you plug a UPS into itself?

Tim PostUPSey daisy; so we had a little ... incident ... Pretty sure that has power. We're past that now, and things are returning to normal. It's only appropriate that we take a moment to think about the folks that got pulled out of bed and worked their knuckles to the bone to get things back up and...

 
slm
6:50 PM
@derobert - is that why?
 
Not sure if its why...
 
slm
@derobert Ah...duh. Where are they moving to then?
 
10
A: Was the Stack Exchange UPS plugged into itself a joke, or real?

Shadow WizardAs Nick tweeted: (NSFW language warning) Turns out our "independent" power feeds which we built full redundancy behind all went to the same (now failing) UPS. One. Fucking. Job. So as far as I can tell, it was due to connecting all feeds to a single UPS which failed, then when the power we...

 
@slm I'm not sure where they're moving to, was trying to find out. I'd guess another data center in or around NYC, since its nice to be near your servers.
And its not like there aren't a lot of DC's in NY.
Today’s the day, Stack Exchange’s NYC data center is going offline for the move to Jersey, stay tuned for pics as it happens #stackDCmove
... apparently, moving to NJ.
Let's hope they've endorsed Gov. Christi, otherwise they might find all the bridges on their way closed.
 
slm
@derobert - thanks. I follow Nick and missed that tweet.
 
6:59 PM
(oops, spelled his name wrong, good thing I'm not planning on traveling to NJ anytime soon!)
Anyway, past lunch time, BBL.
 
@derobert Have a nice lunch.
 
@derobert they are already almost done
shell has no pause right? unix.stackexchange.com/a/134461/41104
 
slm
7:20 PM
There is no pause
56
Q: What is the linux equivalent to DOS pause?

jt.I have a bash shell script in which I would like to pause execution until the user presses a key. In DOS, this is easily accomplished with the "pause" command. Is there a linux equivalent I can use in my script?

 
 
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8:30 PM
@slm there is no spoon.
 
@FaheemMitha only a spork
 
@derobert What is a spork?
oh, a hybrid spoon/fork.
 
@FaheemMitha Yep. One of two similar instruments, the other being the foon. Or maybe they're the same thing. Maybe Uncyclopedia knows.
 
8:48 PM
@derobert So, in fact, the dish ran away with the foon.
Does anyone else have problems with madly proliferating browser tabs?
They're unstoppable.
 
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