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12:50 AM

this I didn't knew about unix.stackexchange.com/questions/greatest-hits

1 hour later…

2:17 AM

Why did markdown not work for me when I made a comment here: unix.stackexchange.com/questions/118592/…?

1 hour later…

3:20 AM

@DKBose because you need the http://. You should have written [In what order do piped commands run?](http://unix.stackexchange.com/q/37508)

Which would render like this: In what order do piped commands run?

@terdon, thank you. I will include protocol in future.

6 hours later…

9:46 AM

Anybody awake?

@JennyD yah

Would you give me your opinion on meta.serverfault.com/a/6170/120438 - am I right in thinking the question would be appropriate here?

I've not been active here for very long so I'd like a second opinion...

I UV'd

Thanks :-)

I had lunch with a friend who's also a sysadmin yesterday. He asked me where the line is drawn between SF and UL... I had to say I saw it more as a gradient than any strict line.

But some of the SF people seem to think UL is basically only SU but for unix users, so they tend to forget us.

And now I shall go back to celebrating this lovely spring day with playing WoW...

10:07 AM

Hi everyone !

I have one simple networking question

I have two laptop and both are connected with same WiFi

IP 1: 192.168.1.102 and IP 2: 192.168.1.105

when I ping to each other then ping tool says

Reply from 192.168.1.105: Destination host unreachable.
Reply from 192.168.1.105: Destination host unreachable.

Guys Any idea to anyone ?

Do you have anything else on that network? And can the hosts ping their gateway?

yes I can ping to gateway 192.168.1.1

No, I don't any any firewall , it is simple network

I was thinking about other computers, to see whether ping to those works. But this actually sounds like something that happened to me a while back - both computers could ping everything else on the network, but they couldn't reach eachother.

I solved it by giving them both static IP addresses which were not the ones they'd had previously and then restarting the wifi interface on both of them.

I can't give static IP address because ISP provides me a dynamic IP address

then WiFi router assign a static to the network own I think

I meant on the internal network, assigned by the WiFi router.

10:15 AM

in the range 192.168.1.X - 192.168.1.244

But to start with you could just try bringing the interface down and then up again on both computers.

If that doesn't suffice, try asking for a new dhcp address.

If that doesn't help, login to your Wifi router and set it to give those two computers a different address and then renew dhcp on both computers.

yes that I can

let me login to my WiFi router

That was what I did when I had that issue...

I'll add that I never figured out why it happened. Networking isn't my strong suit.

Can you explain a bit where I can find option to renew the dhcp of my both computers

I have logged into my WiFi router

What operating system are you running?

10:19 AM

Windows 8

This isn't a room for windows users...

points to the upper right corner

hmm

I run unix. I have no idea how to do this in windows.

How do you do in Unix ?

It depends on what kind of unix.

10:21 AM

oh Any example

I vaguely recall that in windows there's something like ipconfig renew or something like that

example: service dhcpclient restart

oh I got you

hmm I understand this, I read Linux one time

let me search how I can in Windows

I think there might be better help in the chat room for Superuser

okay thnx lets see

@JennyD Fixed

I'm glad!

10:28 AM

your solution worked for me

great

/ipconfig renew

thank you very much :)

Just don't tell anyone I know windows or they may force me to work with it :-)

:), yeah sure

1 hour later…

11:35 AM

@slm Thanks, I got quite frustrated and was kind of happy I had to drop out and cook dinner.

11:47 AM

@JennyD Upvoted too. Seems like a reasonable question to ask here.

i usually refer to this site as unix.sx.

@FaheemMitha Thanks!

@FaheemMitha I always get confused when people talk about site.SE since .se is my national top domain :-)

@JennyD Right. Hence the sx. Afaik not a country domain.

@FaheemMitha It is, for Sint Maartens. Which, granted, is even smaller than Sweden and has way fewer users...

@JennyD Oh, really? Hmm.

I happen to be married to the guy who wrote the software to verify all the applicants for new TLDs in the recent expansion. I know far too much about domains now.

11:52 AM

@JennyD Is that a good job? Writing that software?

@FaheemMitha The actual development is good. The having to interact with half a dozen contradictory RFCs... not so much.

He's currently working on rewriting DNScheck (the backend for dnscheck.iis.se)

Oct 10th 2010? SE should have copyrighted it, or something.

@JennyD Ah.

It's very nice to be married to someone in roughly the same line of work, we can always bounce technical issues off one another and help figure them out.

@JennyD Yes, that does sound handy.

I don't know much I would enjoy pure software development. I worked once on a web app. It was really, really boring, and quite complicated. Bad combo.

Plus Django devs are jerks.

Does anyone know where Chromium caches flash videos when playing? I'm assuming they are flash; it is not always clear.

This is on Debian wheezy, but probably not distribution-specific.

12:21 PM

@FaheemMitha Same here - I do like development but I don't want to be shut out of operations

BTW, I finally got that get-to-know-you question answered

@JennyD Yes, I saw and upvoted it. Thanks for writing.

It was a nice idea to have a question like that

Horse riding? That's nice.

How unusual is that where you are? Do you have horse clubs?

It's not unusual here, and there are lots of clubs

@JennyD That's nice.

12:28 PM

user image

commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Foal-three-hours-old.jpeg is just after he was born

@JennyD Oh, he's cute.

@FaheemMitha I think Chromium (and now even Firefox) make it pretty difficult to recover video from cache. I think you'll need to use some greasemonkey script or an extension.

He is... unfortunately he knows it and tries to use it. He's perfected a demure "who, me?" look that is fooling nobody...

@DKBose I see.

@JennyD What is his name?

Prime Diamond

12:35 PM

@JennyD He looks more like a Hector to me.

@FaheemMitha Why Hector?

@JennyD Dunno. Just seems to fit.

It must be fun to go riding and stuff.

@FaheemMitha It is, and it's such a huge difference when it's your own horse instead of one you rent or borrow or help out with

@JennyD Yes, I'm sure it is.

So he has his own stable?

He lives at a boarding stable, with ~18 other horses - among them his mother and two uncles

12:39 PM

@JennyD Oh, I see.

Which I don't own.

@JennyD Right.

and @casey is a pilot. Wow, people have such cool hobbies.

@FaheemMitha The woman who owns them is a friend and she has a half share in Prime as well, and helps out with his training.

@JennyD Have you ridden a long time? How did you get into it?

@FaheemMitha I started as a kid, taking lessons for all my pocket money... then I grew up and didn't have the time, or had the time but not the money. I started again maybe 10 years ago and now I spend all my time and money there :-)

I have some health issues and riding really helps, too

12:43 PM

@JennyD I see. So, major hobby.

@FaheemMitha Once you buy a horse it can't be a minor one anymore, there's the welfare of the horse to think of

@JennyD True.

@FaheemMitha But it helps that I have a co-owner, and there are some very good people boarding their horses at the same place so we help one another out in case anybody's ill or unable to get there for some reason

@JennyD That sounds like a good arrangement. In some places all that would be impracticably expensive.

Ok, off for a nap. Take care, everyone.

@FaheemMitha Sleep well!

12:55 PM

@Anthon I was rather surprised to see that coming from someone that had a fair amount of rep, but he may not be that familiar with the review process on SE sites. Also maybe much of his rep is from those types of answers on some of the other SE sites which I find quite annoying, when A's don't do much more then give you a lead via a URL or don't actually show a solution just make mention of one.

1:42 PM

@Anthon - Charles has replied, he's going to ask it on Meta, I've asked him to post a link to it here when he's done so.

Charles Stewart

@slm It's at meta.unix.stackexchange.com/questions/2798/…

@CharlesStewart - thanks

Charles Stewart

@slm No problems. My review experience since the flag weight system was abandoned is about 95% with the Tex-SX site, so it could be a difference in how two SX sites interpret the one rule.

2:12 PM

@CharlesStewart - yes there are local customs/practices that often diverge from SE norms when you go from one site to another. But it's always good to Q things, next time I'd suggest using the chatroom on a given SE site or meta earlier on. 8-)

We have had others from time to time come on this site from SO which is much more tolerant than this site is for fragment A'ers. This community generally discourages anything other then the exact answer(s) to a particular Q and we like to see explicit details vs. 1-2 sentences. You're well within your rights to mention the A, and nothing more, but it's always best if you include examples and references.

We'll typically come back on weak A'ers such as that and expand them or write another A w/ the details along side that A, which ends up just becoming cruft.

2:56 PM

@slm why is ftop not available for debian?

I have no idea

You'd have to ask someone that packages for it

I only use it to answer Q's here, I hadn't used it (Debian) other than indirectly through Ubuntu.

I actually thought that posting possible solutions as answers was Ok, especially if they were too long to be posted as comments (per builtin SE limitations).

E.g. Alvaro's answer which caused all the kerfuffle.

I don't actually do that much myself, but I see many people who do. I suppose in theory the best thing would be to take it to chat to get diagnostics from the poster, but mostly people don't do that, presumably because it would be much more work.

@FaheemMitha Look at the edit history for that answer - that might explain some of the thread.

unix.stackexchange.com/posts/118428/revisions

to make it easier to find

So, yes, I've seen highly speculative answers for some questions.

@JennyD Ok, thanks.

The first version I would have flagged, too. The second - maybe not.

3:04 PM

Well, the first version is certainly excessively abbreviated, and yes, that should be a comment.

@FaheemMitha I believe the edit happened somewhere after the first few comments were made but before people started arguing against the first few comments.

Incidentally, this is why I hate timestamps expressed as "X days ago" instead of the fscking time. In UTC.

@JennyD Yes, that sounds plausible.

@slm Ok.

no trace of a ftop for debian

the "horrible software" question attracted disapproval here, but it has produced some interesting answers.

@FaheemMitha Which horrible software Q?

3:44 PM

@FaheemMitha not just a hobby, it used to be my job

@casey But it is now a hobby? Do you have your own plane?

@slm The academia.sx one. Why talented scientists write horrible software.

I do not have my own and these days I rarely fly.

@casey Ok. I guess that was a dumb question. Owning an aircraft must be enormously expensive.

Did you get tired of being a pilot? I heard in the US they are paid surprisingly badly.

@FaheemMitha ah, yeah I forgot about that one

it is, but renting them isn't too far behind.

@FaheemMitha I never got tired of the flying. I got tired of the scheduling dept, the job itself, etc

3:50 PM

@casey Oh, was the flying fun?

It sounds like it would be fun.

and my company downsized in 2008 which resulting in me losing my captain seat and taking a 43% paycut going back to the right seat

that was part of what helped me decide to go back to school

@casey ugh

43% paycut? yikes

yea, the FO pay scale wasn't so great

@casey yes, i was sitting next to a pilot on a flight once, and I interrogated him about his job. he was quite forthcoming. i was shocked by what he revealed. apparently even quite senior pilots get paid like 70k. This was some years ago, of course. 2006? That was rather low, imo.

depends entirely on the carrier

5th year CA at my company could easily clear 70k

3:54 PM

@casey Oh.

second year FO at UPS makes 104k

@casey CA?

captain

@casey FO?

FO is first officer

3:54 PM

@casey Ah, thanks.

our payscales for captains at my company topped out around 100k

but it took 15 years or so to get there

and by then you probably moved on

but we were among the better paid regional jet operators

@JennyD when did you start using Linux-based systems, and what is your preferred distribution anyway?

@casey that's not bad. I assume this was some years ago.

@FaheemMitha Mid-90s and FreeBSD

@casey So have you ever taken someone up and done that trick where you calmly pull the choke to kill the engine then say, "Uh-oh, we're in trouble now..."?

@JennyD you mention using RHEL. people these days divide into RH people or Debian/Ubuntu people, with a side order of FreeBSD/Gentoo/Arch etc.

3:58 PM

I don't like Linux at all, so I guess I'm in the side order...

@JennyD Ah, Ok. That's not so common around here. You could mention that is your answer, if you are so minded. Being a FreeBSD person, I mean.

I thought I did

In the first paragraph, even.

Ok, first line

FreeBSD is still my favourite free Unix.

My mistake

:-)

This site doesn't get many FreeBSD questions, actually.

4:00 PM

I've noticed...

404 questions tagged freebsd. hmm.

It's got a far smaller user base, especially among newbies

404 is an unlucky number on the net. who's going for 405?

@JennyD Right, that does seem to be the case.

Apparently quite popular among porn servers, so I've heard.

Apparently FreeBSD systems are particularly good at taking a beating. And porn servers are apparently very heavily loaded. Forget where I read that.

that's three apparentlys in one para. yech.

So, how is FreeBSD doing these days?

4:19 PM

@FaheemMitha I'm not involved in any development, but there are new releases coming along every so often. And I still like their package management.

@JennyD Ok.

@goldilocks how is my script zany? And don't worry, I took absolutely no offense, I'm just curious as to how I could improve it. After answering that su post I implemented a very similar approach on my system so I'd love to hear any suggestions for improvement.

4:39 PM

@goldilocks when I was instructing in multi-engine airplanes I would occasionally fail an engine with the fuel shutoff so they thought it was a real failure :)

@casey Good - how else would one know if the trainees are able to handle an actual failure!

@casey How did they respond?

5:15 PM

@FaheemMitha as trained :)

@casey Scream and run in small circles?

@FaheemMitha mixture full, prop full, throttle full, flaps up, gear up, dead foot -- dead engine, verify throttle, feather prop, mixture cutoff :)

@casey Ah

2 hours later…

6:59 PM

Anyone have any deep thoughts about sudo and redirection? unix.stackexchange.com/questions/118716/… This always gets me a bit since I (almost) never use it personally, but it often tends to get involved as a trivial aspect of answers...

7:37 PM

I dont bother with sudo, I just get a shell with su if I need it and never bothered to learn sudo except to disable it.

I understand its utility in giving access to specific privleged commands to regular users, I just don't need that functionality.

I do recall seeing a good writeup on the redirection with sudo, but I can't recall who wrote it

recently

8:00 PM

@Braiam wow!

9

Q: What happened to Bruno Pereira?

What happened to Bruno? Where is his moderator diamond? Will it be given back?

@terdon no assombred

@Braiam no what?

@terdon I saw it comming

Yeah, made sense. Wow though, that was quick.

it's sad that it escalated

8:15 PM

@Braiam @terdon - he seemed overworked/stressed in his reaction. It's unfortunate to lose someone, hopefully it wasn't b/c of that.

@slm yes, he was probably having a bad day but he did react in a very aggressive manner and didn't even back off when asked to by an SE employee.

From a normal user that would not be a big deal but a mod should act like one. That's the whole point of having'em

@terdon - agreed.

I'm pretty hot blooded when defending some idea, but I know when to step back and calm myself for a couple of hours

Bojan Vidanovic

i mounted ssd drive from live usb

but when i access it, only see .efi file

not other files

why???

:(

@BojanVidanovic how?

Bojan Vidanovic

8:30 PM

mount /dev/sda /mnt/ssd

what returns ls -l /mnt/ssd?

Bojan Vidanovic

total 4
drwxr-xr-x 4 root root 4096

err... there should be more stuff, no? what's the output of just typing mount?

Bojan Vidanovic

i don't why it says total 4

but list only one

@slm have you seen the post on meta?

9:20 PM

@BojanVidanovic The 4 there is the number of links to the item, not how many items there are.

What if you do ls -la instead?

9:56 PM

@Anthon Yes.

@slm can you explain this bit?

> There is also an obvious connection between Braiam and Sam Mingo,

how they knew?

you told them?

I told no one anything, not intentionally, do you watch any repos on github?

we must have overlap

what is this service anyway?

they scrap github data and analyze them

Yeah and the algorithm seems bunk to me

I know Javascript and Ruby but I would hardly characterize myself with those

this is mine

osrc.dfm.io/slmingol

doesn't even list you on my page

@braiam small world buddy - we're connected even outside of SE 8-)

:)

10:06 PM

@Braiam - How do you pronounce your 1st name? Does it rhyme with brain?

no, in spanish we pronounce things as they are read, like br-ah-i-am. The "i" sounds like the english "e"

actually it's said in a single silabe due spanish triphthong

brah ee am?

here translate.google.com/#en/es/bra%20i%20am

just press the speaker in the spanish side

Is this one right?

spanishdict.com/translate/braiam

yeah

is pretty accurate

mm... nobody else want to participate? meta.unix.stackexchange.com/q/2786/41104

10:20 PM

@Braiam I think it's more of an AU issue. There would be little point in opening an UL=>AU migration path, so the main question is whether AU wants to open the AU=UL path.

@Braiam I'm kind of baffled that this path does not exist already or that there is any controversy at all about it, actually. I have a hard time seeing any validity at all in the arguments against, implying it's simply a "Nope, won't budge" -- i.e., there's actually no possible discussion.

Pissing into the wind and all that.

@goldilocks yeah, I would love to answer some apt (mint, and debian) questions but I had to close them all just because it wasn't on topic there

@terdon well, I'm only saying that if AU decides to open them it will become an issue of both communities, AU sending and UL receiving.

@Braiam I know, but I think that's why we've had more U&L users commenting on the AU post than the one here

I'm interpreting that as long as AU sends quality Q's that would end closed due "not ubuntu (but some other linux)" UL has no problem, I'm right?

@Braiam Who makes the decision anyway?

10:32 PM

@goldilocks ?

@Braiam @terdon - I left a A on your meta here as well. I agree w/ Terdon, this is AU's call, we're basically saying we're OK w/ receiving the Q's.

@goldilocks I agree, seems like a natural path, so it's one of those moments that makes you nervous b/c it's kind of too obvious, hence there "must" be some reason that it's not being done.

@Braiam About the migration (on either side). I'm presuming it 's a quorum of mods, i.e., this is a "representational democracy". Which I always figure attracts power mongers as "representatives", meaning, once they are there you can "discuss" as much as you want and it is all essentially meaningless air.

@goldilocks I would assume that the mods + enough of our communities would be sufficient

@goldilocks ah, well, if it hits a roadblock I would poke a CM and ask them

@slm Uh, in what sense would "enough of our community" make a difference if the decision is actually up to the mods? My point being, if their minds are made up there's no point in talking.

10:37 PM

the only thing that I read about all the drama is that AU doesn't want their crappy questions somewhere else, when crappy = off topic

@Braiam CM = community manager? I'm ignorant of all this stuff.

yeah

The main reason the mod (Oli) is against it is cause he things they will send us loads of crap. If so, he's right. We may as well try and see how it works out though

@Braiam Sort of like calling the UN, lol.

I love the "test waters" approach... the thing is that not even that they will give us...

even if I was a mod on AU I would push the community to moderate themself

10:39 PM

@terdon If you look at Oli's post in the AU discussion, he's against migrations of any sort, period. He obviously toned that down in good politician style here, perhaps. All apologies for being aggressively cynical, BTW.

if there's some kinds of flags that the community could deal themself appropriately I would let them

heck, mods would be drown if we get 500 flags/day

I saw what you did @slm

Even if it is loads of crap, if it's loads of crap appropriate to U&L so what? Closing and downvoting questions does not take much effort.

I wonder, has anyone ever used their 24 close votes in UL?

@Braiam Seeing as how we get < 100 questions a day that would be tough.

@goldilocks heh, I know really

here is weird to even use the flags

10:51 PM

@goldilocks There's a contingent of the regulars that does a lot of the weeding on this site, I'm assuming that on AU's side as well. So if enough of the actual doers are on board is what I meant.

@goldilocks That's been my impression of the situation as well. AU's shoveling crap that some truck drops off every day. Ppl are saying, hey have 1 of the trucks drop a load off at our house, and you're basically saying no?

@slm The problem is exactly that. Those regulars will probably know what to do, the rest of the 200 or so >=3k rep users on AU could misuse this and start migrating crap to us, thus creating more work for the mods. At least, that's how I read the answers.

@terdon Yeah the 1 month trial seems like the way out of this. Assuming it can be turned on/off easily I'd be inclined to try it vs. debating what might happen, let's try the thing out. If it works for 1 month, try it for 2 etc. etc. ramp it up, if it's a disaster shut it off

@slm I think what I meant as a political cynic is the majority of voters are more interested in strong seeming leaders than issues. So if you have a minority of people (the "doers" you refer to) who want to see something happen but the elected leaders (the mods) don't, they don't have to care about the opinion of the doers because, in fact, the those doers are insignificant in terms of representative democratic politics.

I'm for the month trial. Its not like our review queues (can't speak for the flags, I dont have the rep) get out of hand here, so unless they did cause A huge problem we can handle it

@goldilocks yes I'm hoping it's not that

@Braiam I have (used up votes), but so what there are ~10 other ppl that are here who can do it too, and it isn't like we never talk 8-)

@terdon - no one has said this but my gut is saying it's more of a situation where one has been complaining about X and now someone is willing to come in and help you out with X and you don't want them to, b/c they might be able to better deal w/ X then you.

11:01 PM

btw, is difficult to coordinate two communities, I don't envy community managers

Our queues are always at 0

@slm that's the only thing I can read of the situation

which is sad

We have users fighting to process reviews

yeah I'm saying it b/c I assume others are thinking it too, but I get that AU is a different animal, but in this case it seems like all upside for AU to offload this stuff to us, even if it's crap, let us weed through it and help out

@Braiam agreed

I think that if any 2 communities are suited to doing this it would be UL and AU, we have probably the most overlap of any other SE properties I've seen

I know I'm motivated to make it work just to prove a point 8-)

heh, I've won some victories too @slm ;)

@Braiam Where did the migrations you refer to in the past 90 days come from if we don't have the option? Are those done specifically by the mods?

11:08 PM

mod tools - 10k tools - only available for 10kers and mods ;)

try this @goldilocks unix.stackexchange.com/tools unix.stackexchange.com/tools/posts/migrated/stats

don't you see the flag count sometimes?

thinks goldilocks is lost in the awesomeness of the 10k tools

@Braiam So you mean somebody flags something for moderator attention and then the mod decides? I'm 10k+ and AFAIK I can't decide to migrate anything to AU, or vote specifically that way.

P.S. Yes I look at the flags :P

@goldilocks only low quality flags and NAA's, and also some automatic flags like duplicated answers

@slm What privilege are you talking about here? Is that just vote to close (>= 300 rep)?

@Braiam Okay, I'm still a little confused. What I meant was, the stuff that's been thus far back and forth with AU is migrated explicitly by a mod (regardless of how it caught his her attention). Correct?

@goldilocks yeah

which is actually very low...

for the amount of Q's closed

11:17 PM

@FaheemMitha my close votes

you only get 24

@slm Are these different from the (>= 3000) vote to close things?

@FaheemMitha - no

@goldilocks all migrations that don't have explicit migration paths in the vote to close dialog have been done by mods. Either 'cause someone flagged for migration (mod attention=>other=> left custom message) or because a mod saw the Q and migrated. The only exceptions are Unix & Linux Meta and Stack Overflow for which we have explicit migration paths.

@FaheemMitha - unix.stackexchange.com/help/privileges/close-questions

as you said, the 3k

@slm there are a lot of people on the site who have above 3k, but relatively few of them seem to use these close/reopen votes.

11:26 PM

@FaheemMitha - yeah that's b/c it's handled quickly by the few of us, IMO. Our queues are always empty, so this was my original comments that i felt like we had slack to handle more, when I said it in Braiam's original meta on AU

This is an odd one

0

Q: Troubles with modules after upgrade to kernel 3.2.0-60

Everything worked fine until kernel 3.2.0-58. Then the update manager proposed an update to 3.2.0-59, I did it but the update didn't finished successfully (I was able to boot but windows with error messages popped out continuously). So I uninstalled 3.2.0-59 in favour of -58 again, which I'm curr...

12.04 wireless upgrade kernel lts

would the linux kernel really remove drivers between minor updates? I haven't investigated

@FaheemMitha the dkms modules are not building with the new kernel, which is weird

@Braiam Yeah. Is the dkms compilation kicked off automatically?

@terdon I had not noticed mods could migrate things arbitrarily. Using the "mod attention -> custom message" route seems pretty obtuse, especially since this discussion implies you would be asking someone to migrate something who's perhaps already objected to the (direct) democratic approach because they don't think users like you are sufficiently responsible :/

@goldilocks hardly. It's just a way of calling a mod's attention to an off topic question. For example, if I see a question here about, say, cooking (never mind why), I would flag for mod attention and leave a message asking for the Q to be moved to cooking.

11:34 PM

@goldilocks - yeah it's not so much a way to request something get migrated as more this seems off-topic pls investigate further

well, we have slapped sometimes mods for migrating stuff to us that doesn't matter how you see it is crap ;)

@FaheemMitha I know when I've exhausted them before that I'll start asking others to step up and help w/ it. It's only happened a couple of times, I generally have 5-10 left each day

I wish they would increase those numbers like they do the flags, I now have 90+ flags I can throw each day

@slm Yes, there aren't that many questions coming through here.

As a counterpoint to all the AU->UL discussion recently, have people actually looked at the ubuntu questions? they mostly don't look that appealing.

@FaheemMitha terdon did in his answer

This one is really not Ubuntu specific -> askubuntu.com/q/431478/15729

An example of a question that could more reasonably be asked here.

@Braiam not sure what you are replying to. people know that you can left click to the left of the question to reply, right? Sometimes people don't. I think it is always a good idea. Something one cannot do in IRC for example.

11:41 PM

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A: Activate migration paths to Unix and Linux, should we?

I'd like to chime in here as a regular on U&L. First of all, I have to agree with Oli that our crap threshold is much lower on U&L. We tend to be far more aggressive with closing questions than AU and we seem to feel more strongly about having quality questions. That said, there are many Qs I've ...

@Braiam yes, I had read that.

my point was that i agree with that mod that AU is full of crap, but I guess adding a migration path for a bit is reasonable.

This one is also not really Ubuntu-specific. askubuntu.com/q/431451/15729

as i commented, looks like some filesystem issue. possibly network.

I bet he has something mounted on /mnt directly

@Braiam Oh, does that break stuff?

Where does the "Transport endpoint is not connected" error come from / mean?

@FaheemMitha FUSE

my guess is a networked FUSE system

that's what it sounds like

11:47 PM

@strugee mounted on /mnt?

@FaheemMitha yeah I have no idea what that's about. it was just a half-baked theory

But why is it looking for ./mnt ? Note the ./

again just a while guess, but it might be that apt-get is changing its working dir into the installation root and then using a relative path

I dunno if APT has the functionality to change the installation root but I'm assuming it does

Anyone have any ideas on this?

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Q: GRUB doesn't show up when second hard drive is present

I just finished messing with Windows 7 + Linux Mint dualboot and finally got it to work. Grub handles the booting. It works as expected as long as I have only my main hard drive connected. When I connect my second drive and start the laptop, the intro screen appears and then, instead of grub, o...

windows-7 linux hard-drive boot grub

@terdon BIOS tries to boot from one SATA port first which is his 2nd hd

11:59 PM

@Braiam That's what I thought but I just asked in chat and the boot device order has the 1st hdd first

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