@massonpj We've had various discussions on our meta site about the scope of this site and what it has to do with open source, the OSI and such. Have you seen much of this?
Ok. I just have one other question before I start blabbering on... Have any of the Community Managers (e.g. Robert Cartaino, Tim Post) spoken with you)
Hi all, I see I cannot answer the question yet (only have a reputation of 1), but the quote listed above was from me in my role as GM at the OSI and we are indeed still interested. As @trichoplax noted, when we first raised this with the Board is was not approved as we needed to formalize the relationship between the OSI and S.E. through a Memorandum of Understanding/Agreement. This would clarify how the OSI marks/name would be used, the role of the OSI in moderation, commenting and structure the relationship (e.g. "The OSI does not endorse the comments made..."). — massonpj24 mins ago
awesome. For some context form our side, we're not really in contact with SE staff (are we?), we're just a separate community, so basically we have no idea what the MOU would entail, and what the status of all this is
If you're still interested that's great. I imagine SE will be OK with the OSI supporting us here, but we'll leave it to the community managers to work the details. Meantime, what are the OSI thinking our relationship will be?
Proposal: Open Source
The OSI (Open Source Initiative, http:opensource.org) was contacted regarding the use of the OSI logo (http://opensource.org/files/osi_standard_logo.png) as part of this site proposal.
After a bit of discussion, the OSI would be interested in promoting this forum, should i...
> The OSI currently provides mailing lists and email contacts for people to ask questions related to open source issues: copyright/licensing/patents, funding models, community development & management, etc. These lists and emails require a significant investment to review and respond to by the limited number of OSI Board Directors.
and especially if we can borrow some of your expertise. Our community should be self-sustaining, but some people from the OSI behind it that could answer some questions, that could really help bootstrap our community
but that was our goal. I think for many of us we would not have the bandwidth to participate as deeply as others on here and we simply want to be able to provide a direct link to the forum
so no matter who it was, we would recognize that the request was coming from a trusted/valuable source and respond quickly with a bit deeper of a commitment
there are no real guarantees to what happens after we enter public beta. It's not likely that there will be sudden plug pulling, but as much as we don't like to admit it, there is always a chance that it will never leave public beta, and eventually be closed as a failed proposal.
@massonpj If we ping you in chat, you'll get a Stack Exchange notification if you don't read the message in 15 minutes or so - so you'd have to log into SE to get the notification
Ideally it would go to our general list (board-all@) and then you'd get the best folks looking at it and they could respond. That list is all of the Board Directors over time and several legal folks
board-all@ could work I guess. As you have probably tasted from our degree of organisation, it's all private individuals with private email addresses here, so there might be a little hesitance here and there, and a slightly elevated treshold to use email. That's not a bad thing per-se
when from the OSI perspective we help to reduce workload, having everyone frequent the site to help out might not be the most productive course of action :)
so if I understand, new questions on SE get pushed to board-all@. Then anyone on our list (former directors, lawyers, etc.) can got to SE to answer questions. The OSI would also have a link to SE (replacing our "Ask the OSI" contact information (which is really just that same mailman list) that then send folks here.
@massonpj Don't forget however, that the community will answers questions. If you would like, we can push unanswered or highly voted questions for your input
@massonpj There will need to be a clear understanding as @Gilles says, that this site can only cover certain types of questions. Others are best covered by you.
room topic changed to Discussion with OSI: A chat room for discussing the support of the Open Source Initiative (OSI) for opensource.stackexchange.com (no tags)
OK, because again, there is the operational side, like we've been discussing (which I know we can sort out) but then there is the legal side (using the OSI name, logo, etc.) which is the legal side and that is a...[insert painfull expression]
We've seen many issues so far on the issue of neutrality between things such as:
the Open Source Initiative;
the Free Software Foundation;
Creative Commons and more;
Don't get me wrong, the issue has sparked many meta posts (each word's a separate link). Since Area 51, there has been issue wi...
Note: I understand this is very long, but be sure to read and understanding everything in this post.
Alright! Day 6 into the beta, and we're about to introduce a new addition to the scope!
The issue of neutrality has been big since the definition phase of this site. Conflicts and arguments over...
Essentially, our position is this: we're here to give people quality answers to their questions about open information. We'd be very happy if the OSI, FSF, and CC, and any others, think it's worthwhile directing people here, and we'd be happy to answer the questions that result.
@massonpj Go forward on the assumption we won't use the OSI brand. If we do need to, it'll be a couple years away yet and we can start discussions then.
@ArtOfCode @Zizouz212 are you both cool with me following up with Tim, or do you want to. Again, I'm not sure of everyone's roles or interests (community vs. SE)
@massonpj Both I and Zizouz212 are just users heavily interested in developing this site further, but are not official SE people or moderators. (this site has no moderators yet)
@ArtOfCode Shog9, Robert Cartaino, bluefeet, JNat, and jmac are in theory available at the moment, but they most likely have other things going on. Also, Tim would be the best choice.
@massonpj I think we're OK at the moment, but if you think there's a discussion to be had with SE that would benefit from us being here, then we can try to get hold of them.
How's about this: we have a chatroom where people can drop in with questions they think should be sent, and someone sends the list at the end of the day
My original thought was to set up the bot we have to accept question nominations, which people would come into chat and give it. It'll send them off each day or something.
@ArtOfCode Yeah, Gilles suggests that at first the number will be low, so we can test it manually before including the bot -> this should help to define the rules for the bot
room topic changed to Discussion with OSI: A chat room for discussing anything about the Open Source Initiative (OSI) and opensource.stackexchange.com (no tags)
room topic changed to Discussion with OSI: A chat room for discussing anything about the Open Source Initiative (OSI) and opensource.stackexchange.com [discussion,] [licensing,] [odd-greetings] [osi,]
room topic changed to Discussion with OSI: A chat room for discussing anything about the Open Source Initiative (OSI) and opensource.stackexchange.com [discussion] [licensing] [odd-greetings] [osi]
So we nominate questions for sending to OSI here in this room. massonpj gives us a good email to send it too. We should probably start after open beta starts, so anyone on the mailing list can follow the links. Am I right?
We've seen many issues so far on the issue of neutrality between things such as:
the Open Source Initiative;
the Free Software Foundation;
Creative Commons and more;
Don't get me wrong, the issue has sparked many meta posts (each word's a separate link). Since Area 51, there has been issue wi...
Discussion with OSI
Discussion with OSI