Code Review Moderator Election 2015

Most of the people who really would vote here, I doubt have anything against younger people, right? After I did that query that showed we're mostly all young

Jamal

Mods can still edit and delete nomination comments.

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Vogel612

9:08 PM

@Quill oh... yea I wrote an answer to that

Ethan Bierlein

Hmm, maybe that's why that comment got deleted.

Undo

@Quill I'm planning to vote, and age doesn't really affect how I vote very much

Mast

@Jamal So that's why you have no comments...

Undo

If anything, I sway toward the younger folks because I've seen how much faster they can learn the tools.

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Mast

/JK

Quill

9:09 PM

@Undo Yeah, you have the knowledge of how those shoes feel, most users don't have the shoe feels

Mast

@Undo A certain amount of maturity will be required to handle the situations they encounter though.

Undo

@Mast sure

Ethan Bierlein

@Undo Thanks for the comment on my post.

Undo

heh, no problem :)

Mast

Age isn't the deciding factor in that, but it usually helps.

Vogel612

9:10 PM

@Undo No prompting, please!

Ethan Bierlein

@Mast Do you think that we aren't capable of handling those situations?

Mast

@EthanBierlein define 'we'

Undo

Age is generally linked to maturity, but quite frankly if you're running for a diamond on an SE site you're squarely in the "age probably not linked to maturity" group.

Ethan Bierlein

@Mast Any young moderator.

Mast

@EthanBierlein I will most certainly refrain from making such generalized comments.

Quill

9:11 PM

@EthanBierlein Perhaps he's pointing out the frequent conversations you find yourself in at 2nd monitor :P

Vogel612

@Undo except for some notorious outliers, that somehow show up in every election, right?

Undo

@Vogel612 Whatcha mean?

Vogel612

I was hoping to get exactly that answer out of ethan without you helping :)

Undo

@Vogel612 sure, but there are other reasons one shouldn't vote for those folks.

Mast

@EthanBierlein As far as you personally go, I've already told you.

Vogel612

9:11 PM

true that

Ethan Bierlein

@Quill That's all just fun sometimes. In real situations, stuff like that should never happen.

Undo

@Vogel612 oh, sorry :P

I've had folks come to my rescue before on these kinds of issues, figure I should help out where I can

Quill

@EthanBierlein I know, that's just the kinda stuff you gotta watch for. That line

It's hard to see

Ethan Bierlein

Okay.

Mast

Treacherous the path into darkness is.

Hosch250

9:12 PM

Are you running, @SirPython?

Ethan Bierlein

@Undo Don't answer @Mast's question though. I'm working on it right now.

SirPython

@Hosch250 No.

Quill

@Vogel612 Yes, I did very much like that answer, thank you

Hosch250

OK.

Mast

@EthanBierlein I didn't ask Undo a question.

Undo

9:13 PM

@EthanBierlein okay. If you answer it wrong I'll make Jamal edit it into a good answer :P

Ethan Bierlein

@Mast I know you didn't. I was just politely asking him to refrain from answering one of your comments on my nomination.

Hosch250

So far, only 2 candidates are going to be disappointed.

SirPython

@Hosch250 I don't think I could handle the responsibility.

Mast

@EthanBierlein So what exactly are you talking about?

Hosch250

@QPaysTaxes How am I supposed to know!?

Mast

9:14 PM

@QPaysTaxes It's a matter of statistics.

6 running, 4 positions.

Ethan Bierlein

@Mast

Mast

Do the math.

Ethan Bierlein

> There are only four moderator positions available. Why do you think you're one of the four users that should be awarded this privilege and responsibility, instead of the other candidates?

Hosch250

6 nominated, 4 positions.

Mast

@EthanBierlein That's a question I asked you, Undo has nothing to do with it.

Hosch250

9:14 PM

I hope Simon runs.

Mast

@Hosch250 So do I.

Mat's Mug

me too

Undo

@Mast he asked me not to answer it.

Not seeing where the confusion is

Ethan Bierlein

@Mast Yes, I know that. Undo answered Vogel612's comment, rather than me.

Undo

oh, because I have a track record of answering other people's questions :P

Vogel612

9:16 PM

codereview.stackexchange.com/election/…

whaaaaaaat?!?!?!?

nomination comments don't onebox?

@Undo Don't.

@Vogel612 Nope

dammit.

@Vogel612 nomination comments are serially broken

Vogel612

that said, it's the reply you gave to the person mentioning your age.

Ethan Bierlein

9:17 PM

@Vogel612 Hmm yes?

Vogel612

are you sure it's a ... good idea to change your nomination post, just because someone one the internet didn't like it?

Ethan Bierlein

Well, let me ask you.

Do you think it's a good idea to include my age?

Vogel612

Yes. Because it gives you a way to hook people

it's also a facet you probably will have to put up with when getting into moderation

Undo

whispers keep it

Mat's Mug

0

A: 2015 Community Moderator Election

I'd like to see @nhgrif nominate for moderator. He's very active, in chat, on meta and on the main site, and he has an opinion on just about everything. And he's an Apple fanboy. Upvote this post to pressure him into nominating :)

Malachi

9:19 PM

and you can't upvote the comments either?!

Ethan Bierlein

Hmm. Good point. I'm gonna re-add it.

Vogel612

and I think it's important you get a feeling for how people will address it

Mat's Mug

..or not

Vogel612

see that's what I mean

Malachi

@EthanBierlein I did say, usually

Vogel612

9:20 PM

you will probably get that on a daily or at least weekly basis..

Mast

@Vogel612 That. So tackle it now, directly.

Without mercy.

Ethan Bierlein

Okay, let me come up with a better way of handling those kinds of scenarios.

Undo

Daily or weekly? Doubtful. Monthly or yearly? Probably.

Vogel612

@Undo you know better than me. It will come up though, and preparation for that is everything

Undo

Agree

Vogel612

9:23 PM

@Mat'sMug oh dear 2 downvotes?..

Malachi

slow down, youngin. you got some time to put your nomination together, so take your time and think about it a little bit

Vogel612

^^ that

fools rush, where angels fear to tread

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janos

^^ oh your wisdom is golden

Ethan Bierlein

@janos I was just about to say "pure gold ^^", but you beat me to it. :D

Vogel612

and I'm just repeating canned wisdom from the java room and bitter experience

Mat's Mug

9:26 PM

TTQW

Mast

Should I ask this everyone instead of just Ethand?

13 mins ago, by Ethan Bierlein

> There are only four moderator positions available. Why do you think you're one of the four users that should be awarded this privilege and responsibility, instead of the other candidates?

Ethan Bierlein

@Mast Maybe.

Vogel612

@Mast but then please get it into the Q&A suggestions :)

janos

@Vogel612 btw I noticed you changed quite a bit over the months I've known you. You used to hammer bad questions pretty hard, and at some point it kinda stopped, you're a lot gentler nowadays. You should definitely run man. You know the SE network very well, and have a very good sense to guide off-topic posts to the right places, which will come handy when we start getting more traffic. + you're a real Git ninja and taught me some cool tricks

Vogel612

@janos thanks, but that's probably because I'm less active than I used to be around here.

and I get to blow off a lot of steam on the java room

Hosch250

9:30 PM

@Janos Why don't you run?

janos

I probably will ;-)

Hosch250

OK.

janos

this room is too engaging, I'm having a hard time concentrating on writing my nomination

Mat's Mug

Run! Run! Run! Run! Run!

Mast

@Vogel612 It would be great if someone could pin that question, I lost it...

Oh, here

2015 Moderator Election Q&A - Question Collection

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Vogel612

9:32 PM

election

^^ this should do it

Ethan Bierlein

Wow... I feel like I don't have as much of a chance if janos, Jamal, Hosch250, Mat'sMug, and Malachi. I'm still gonna try though.

Vogel612

that's the spirit :)

Ethan Bierlein

I will ~~do this~~ try.

janos

@EthanBierlein it's the journey, not the destination ;-)

Ethan Bierlein

Words of wisdom @all ^^

Mast

9:34 PM

@EthanBierlein Do or do not. There is no try.

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Ethan Bierlein

Words of Yoda @all :D ^^

Quill

Wow... I feel like I don't have as much of a chance if janos, Jamal, Hosch250, Mat'sMug, and Malachi. I'm still gonna try though. I feel the same

Mast

@EthanBierlein No, Yoda style it would be more along the lines of

Not try you must. Do or do not.

Quill

Sorry, on mobile, can't find the quote button

Mast

@Quill ►►►►►►►►►►►►►►►►►►►►►►►►►►►►►►►►►►►►

Ethan Bierlein

9:37 PM

Do. Or do not. There is no try.

►

@Mast ^^

Mast

@EthanBierlein Ah, he starts with Try not.

Close enough.

Malachi

@Mast it won't let me pin it.... yet....lol jk

Hosch250

@EthanBierlein You can't try, because we won't catch.

Ethan Bierlein

Wait, do moderators have to step down after a year for the next election?

Hosch250

No.

Ethan Bierlein

9:45 PM

Ah. And if no moderators step down?

Hosch250

They host elections at most once per year, depending on whether the site needs new moderators for any reason (step down, more positions...).

At least, that is how I understand it.

Mast

@Hosch250 That's also how I understand it.

If nobody steps down, there will be no new elections.

Unless there is a need for one more moderator.

nhgrif

Moderators can be removed.

Mast

@nhgrif And that.

Vogel612

@nhgrif happens rather seldom though.

Undo

9:52 PM

I can only think of one time in the last year where that happened

Hosch250

Mark Rage went on a rage fit.

Ethan Bierlein

Who's Mark Rage?

Mast

@Hosch250 Oh, that guy.

Hosch250

Former mod on another SE site.

Mast

I remember a meta about him.

People thought he was hacked.

Turns out he wasn't.

Hosch250

9:53 PM

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Q: What's with the angry chef picture?

Someone using Mark Rage's account is editing whole questions and answers to just contain this picture: There are many examples, here is just one, but others are easy to find. What the heck is going on?

discussion

Undo

oh, so two

Hosch250

That was in Feb 2015.

Mast

I've been a lurker on EE.SE for quite some time.

Vogel612

@Undo wasn't there some drama on Programmers too?

overzealous post cleanup and intervention by shog?

hichris123

GO JAMAL!

Malachi

9:56 PM

@EthanBierlein
> this will change if I'm elected

hichris123

Sorry, is that not a good thing to say? :P

Malachi

how about.....

Ethan Bierlein

Guys, stop interrupting @Malachi :D

Malachi

> I am working on this and it will increase wether I am elected or not

@EthanBierlein lol it's all good

Hosch250

@Malachi Weather?

Ethan Bierlein

9:58 PM

Yes, it'll make everything storm, like it is right now.

Hosch250

We aren't Meteorology.SE, so that isn't a pun.

Malachi

My fingers can spell but they don't always spell the right word....

Hosch250

I thought there was a storm close from the clouds.

Ethan Bierlein

I think that should be spelled whether

@Hosch250 It's raining where I'm at rn.

hichris123

I don't know weather to upvote or ... Eh, what the heck. +1. — RubberDuck Aug 19 '14 at 0:18

Hosch250

9:59 PM

(For those who don't know, I live fairly near to @EthanBierlein.)

Malachi

@Mat'sMug you just need Copy Editor

Hi @hichris123!

how is it going?

hichris123

Hi!

I'm fine. :)

rolfl

Hey @hichris123 - was talking about you earlier

hichris123

@QPaysTaxes Hi hi! Yes, you did. :)

@rolfl ... good or bad?

Hosch250

Hi, @hichris123.

rolfl

10:04 PM

@hichris123 Something about mod abuse

hichris123

oh heh.

2 hours ago, by rolfl

@Vogel612 I never actually set my chat "about me"..... some other mod ( cough @hichris123 cough ) did that for me.

rolfl

There ya go ;-)

Hosch250

@rolfl Talking about that, you set Duga's...

rolfl

I did

Hosch250

32 secs ago, by rolfl

There ya go ;-)

Only, Duga should have said that ^

hichris123

10:06 PM

I should totally answer a question (like I've been promising for a year or so) just so I can vote in this election.

Hosch250

@hichris123 I have one without an answer.

Mine is C#/XAML/WPF.

hichris123

I don't -- but I probably should.

Yeah, I don't know C# either.

rolfl

What do you know?

Hosch250

You only need to know one...

XAML is awful easy...

hichris123

@rolfl I know Stack Exchange fairly well. ;)

Malachi

10:08 PM

@Jamal I answered your comment and I have been looking at my old answers as well. Spam is in your face, go to my site, style questions or answers. those examples were the kind of things that should be discussed on Meta, like we did there. someone was concerned whether or not someone was strictly trying to lure people away from the site or trying to give good information. it was decided on both cases that they weren't doing that, but they were bad answers.

janos

or perhaps some android, java, mysql, php ?

Hosch250

Do you know SQL?

I've got a couple SQL queries I could ask a question with.

rolfl

@hichris123 Some SEDE queries

Hosch250

From the SEDE.

rolfl

See: stackexchange

hichris123

10:11 PM

@Hosch250 Depends if you mean "Can you write a SQL statement?" or "Can you make my SQL query pretty & more efficient". My expertise in the latter is simply to create indexes. :P

Vogel612

@hichris123 this sounds like a really really bad idea.

even to a ORM-loving dev like me

hichris123

Well I mean... an index did bring a query from 30 seconds - 0.01 seconds for me, so it can't be all bad...

Although that was a really simple query that needed an index badly. :P

Vogel612

figured as much

Jamal

Possible candidate question: ~~As a moderator, would you resist superpinging Jon Skeet?~~

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Hosch250

@Jamal Why should we ;)

Just kidding, I could.

Vogel612

10:13 PM

@hichris123 it won't ever help with the fugly structure I have to deal with at work, so...

once burnt, twice shy

Jamal

I believe if you do that, your diamond is automatically taken away by Community. ;-)

Malachi

lol

Hosch250

:O

@rolfl You are stepping down anyway, can you check the veracity of Jamal's statement?

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Just kidding, and I'm sure @Jamal is too.

@Quill Doubt that Jamal is kidding?

Or doubt that Community de-mods you?

Vogel612

why are so many messages removed?? ~confused

Pops

@Jamal On a first offense, you get an e-mail from the system that says "Look, I couldn't resist doing that too, when I first gained sentience. But please don't do it again."

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Malachi

10:19 PM

Hey @Pops, How is it going!

take it that you have done that?

Pops

What? Me? Nooo... I just... read about it... in the code....

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Vogel612

probably everyone did it, Jon is always preparing for the day it happens when elections are announced

Hosch250

Lol.

Vogel612

@Pops may I call you a liar now ? ;)

Hosch250

I think @Pops is teasing us too.

Pops

10:21 PM

@Vogel612 Give me one second to update my "ignore" settings... okay, go for it.

Hosch250

4

Q: What is "code" and what should a DIYer know about it?

I've heard people who work in construction and here on this site discuss "code", and when this happens someone sites a specific document such as the National Electrical Code or International Plumbing Code or similar. (I'm assuming electrical and plumbing would be most important because they both...

code-compliance

Malachi

right now if you sort (elections.stackexchange.com/#codereview.stackexchange) by join date, I am at the top... imagine that!

Ethan Bierlein

Heh, I just found a bug on elections.se

Vogel612

that site is probably riddled with bugs

Ethan Bierlein

Instead of saying "pro term" it says "pro tem"

Vogel612

10:25 PM

that's kinda... the way it should be.

Quill

Pro Tempore

Latin for ... something

Hosch250

Yeah, it is right.

Pops

"for the time being" I think?

Jamal

@Malachi Whomever finds this chat message will be rewarded.

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Malachi

you did it didn't you @Jamal?

Jamal

10:27 PM

Me? Nope.

Hosch250

I have a feeling that moderators aren't that silly.

Vogel612

@Jamal should be simple with a single query against the prod chat database

Jamal

Bring It

Malachi

@Jamal what exactly do you mean? I am a little confused. maybe I should have had one more cup of coffee today....

Vogel612

SELECT * FROM messages WHERE UserId = (SELECT Id FROM Users WHERE DisplayName = 'Pops') AND Body LIKE '%@@22656:stackoverflow@@%'

Malachi

10:30 PM

are you talking about my post and then pops post?

10 mins ago, by Pops

What? Me? Nooo... I just... read about it... in the code....

rolfl

17 mins ago, by Hosch250

@rolfl You are stepping down anyway, can you check the veracity of Jamal's statement?

What I do know is that if you get JonSkeet on Code Review.. the C# and Java folk won't vote for you in an election

Vogel612

^^ that

Jamal

@Malachi There's really no reward. ;-) But it would be funny to see such a message from Pops, which may not even exist.

Hosch250

Who cares.

Pops

@Jamal Actually, I'm just as confused as Malachi.

nhgrif

10:37 PM

@rolfl I encourage @JonSkeet to come to Code Review and start answering iOS questions. Every iOS question on SO we've both answered, my answer has twice as many upvotes.

Vogel612

lol

rolfl

Heh, get a Guru against skeet ... that should have a gold-badge of it's own

nhgrif

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A: Weird generics error

For starters, let's explain the error: Given: class Foo<T:Hashable> { } class SubFoo<String> : Foo<String> { } The confusing part here is that we expect "String" to mean the Swift defined structure which holds a collection of characters. But it's not. Here, "String" is the name of the gene...

Malachi

I think I get it now

Jamal

@Pops Blasted coffee

nhgrif

10:39 PM

I got Populist against Skeet:

stackoverflow.com/help/badges/62/populist?userid=2792531

Malachi

the person to find the post of you (@Pops) super pinging @JonSkeet

Pops

Ahhh. Yeah, good luck with that.

Jamal

Oh good, I thought it was about the reward. I wasn't ready to bounty off all my rep to the winner anyway.

Hosch250

Some SEDE, anyone?

Vogel612

10:52 PM

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Q: 2015 Community Moderator Election - Nomination Requests

In the light of the currently running nomination phase of the 2015 Community Moderator Election, I want to add this question as a place for the community to nudge candidates on the edge into actually nominating themselves. This seems to be customary around the network: Some sites like to hos...

discussion election

opinions, please :D

Quill

@Vogel612 sure, why not

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