?!? Z did you delete that?

Any suggestion to revise/Improve this? @kdopen

Can I declare myself a osx java idiot? stackoverflow.com/questions/32087039/…

@Mnementh Aren't you supposed to be a java expert? Help me!!!

@vzn What we talking about?

Um... ok?

↑ open source within open science!

Ah, right.

:) its a new prj ... has a lot of cutting edge stuff eg incl deep learning, etc

@vzn And you are spamming our chatroom with it...

@Zizouz212 Nah, it's not that bad

It's relevant, at least :)

I guess...

Though if it's constant and obvious self-promotion, we get the deletion hammers out :)

Sounds like something that might be of interest to some people round here, so I'm inclined to keep a quick mention of it around.

@ArtOfCode and where is your written policy on so-called "self-promotion"? do you want an active chat room or one with just mods killing stuff within seconds of it appearing? yes have run into this similar bias in other SE chat rooms. its a simple link. its obviously on topic. it will scroll past in the chat room unless somebody stars it. did you delete something else I posted? cant tell. "micromanaging"?

@vzn No, Feeds deleted it - meaning we can't tell. I have no problem with a couple links, just noting that if it becomes a problem we'll do something.

@ArtOfCode what is Feeds?

@vzn The chat equivalent of the Community user

@ArtOfCode ok, havent run into that before afaik

figured it was Z because he just said it was spam and wrote right after it was posted

@vzn Understandable, it's not obvious

@ArtOfCode right. its somewhat subjective.

@vzn I can't tell who deleted it, only that someone did

@ArtOfCode isnt Z the obvious candidate?

Possibly, but I see no reason to cause deletion via Feeds rather that just deleting it outright, if it was

anyway lol the ref to spam in a room with xkcd autofeed into it... whose idea was that anyway ?!? :P

It's possible, that if Feeds deleted it, that your message got a handful of flags and got autodeleted

@vzn No idea, but we seem to enjoy it around here.

@ArtOfCode so, good thing you guys have your priorities in order!

@vzn Isn't it just :)

@ArtOfCode fyi Z wrote me a chat reply right after/ next line (now deleted): "Explanation?"

Lemme go find that...

@ArtOfCode dont worry about it, it seems to have disappeared after a nightly period, it doesnt even seem to say (deleted) in the transcript any more.

Ah right. Presumably he wanted some context to the link? Correct me if I'm wrong, @Ziz.

@vzn It's still in my transcript

Hey, what's up?

It was completely unparalleled... And it likely looked like spam. As a user who has never been here before... And to simply post a link and leave

That's kind of strange... Especially when it's about open science (relationship? Maybe, but open science has their own chatroom)

lol, horrors

think theres a very natural connection between open science & open source dont you guys?

esp open computer science. hence the link. but maybe not many or a lot have made the connection yet.

There's some connection, sure

But not a complete connection (that site was going crazy... in quality and content)

open (computer) science can/ does leverage the long history of open source.

@Zizouz212 Didn't OS shut down?

AoC, wondering, are you young like Z?

@ArtOfCode yes.

How do you know how young I am?

@Zizouz212 what site are you talking about?

That's scary...

You've probably said it sometime :)

@Zizouz212 lol, you put it on your profile

Scarier...

Yep, I have said I'm 15

Alright, I'm fine now :)

think 15 is young to think about open science! (admittedly open source is much more mainstream)

On the Internet... maturity isn't measured in age.

Not necessarily... I've kept a strong eye on it

@Zizouz212 wondering/ curious, why?

And the quality got really bad after a while

@Zizouz212 quality of what?

@vzn Starting up sites is like my new thing now... I'm sick and tired of SO and big sites

@vzn on Open Science

@Zizouz212 dislike a lot of SE culture at times myself :(

I wouldn't say SE, but more the big trilogy sites

@Zizouz212 the large scale sites face unique challenges. even SE mgt admits it.

Yep... It's impossible to ask a question without being criticized on the difference in code style

@ArtOfCode so what is it measured it? ;)

Avatar awesomeness

@vzn In maturity itself, objectively decided by the peers of the measured subject.

there is a lot of cross-site SE (near/ veiled) hostility to questions/ newbies etc.

I've got 1.9k there...

And I still get yelled at half the time

Oh, and bounties are completely overrated.

1.9k for me too. 1.9k is nothing, in SO terms.

Even 10k isn't much now..

yeah. after years of earning solid rep, many mods still hassle me. its like starting all over from scratch on new sites. etc.

Now, I just ask questions if I really want an answer (and I have to put a hefty bounty on it in order to do that)

@Zizouz212 by who? new users will always be ... unruly at times.

I ask questions, I get yelled at for my genuine confusion

Next bounty: stackoverflow.com/questions/32087039/…

How many points do you peeps think I'll need to do?

@Zizouz212 I ask questions with as much detail as possible

@Zizouz212 Don't bounty, edit and bump

@ArtOfCode Never gets me anywhere... No one ever cares to answer anyway

@ArtOfCode I die then

@Zizouz212 Heh. Mine get answered ;P

How big of a bounty do you think I'll need this time?

242644

If only I had so much...

42

xD

Bots are coming out to play

Bot started.

Oh. Of course...

@Ziz you forgot? How dare you?

I didn't forget...

>>stop

@ProgramFOX Bot terminated.

@ArtOfCode How did the bot hour go?

@Zizouz212 Karma's still running. Transcript looks pretty empty though

Karma, give me a random number

Or, you already have a thing for that...

~> listcommands

~>random

or

~>randomint

~> randomchoice 50 100 150 200 250 300 350 400 450 500

A 50 point bounty it is then... Doubt that will give me an answer though

heh

I can do 150

Might actually get you an answer

Yep :)

@Ziz know any PHP / would be prepared to learn it?

Ew

PHP

Nah, what for?

I'm open to anything :)

It's not that bad

Cloning Stack Exchange. And making it open source.

:D

hasn't that happened already?

Scram outta here!

There's spies!

wat just happened

@ratchetfreak Yes, but many are incomplete and/or abandoned...

The SE spy, namely, @ratchetfreak, has discovered our plans...

If I worked for SE I'd have a blue name already

All but more reason to think you're a spy

Interesting logic ;)

@ratchetfreak Know anything in java?

yeah

Tell me... stackoverflow.com/questions/32087039/…

the NSImage: refers to the protocol, it tells java how to look for the resource, like file: tells it to look in the local file system and http: is over the internet NSImage is a local native image

Geez... Too many smart people around

@Zizouz212 I didn't do any desktop Java in ages, so no idea. i used Toolkit back in the dark ages. But if I read right you try TIFF and it isn't supported, so no surprise...

We were having a debate over how big a bounty I need for the question. What do you say?

:)

Thanks...

Karma told me 150

I said 200

Can't you ping Jon Skeet to your rescue? He probably knows the answer

@ArtOfCode Says bump

Ooh, and with the mod pings...

I could demand him to a one-on-one session! <:D

But 150-200 sounds OK

Alright

First thing tomorrow when It'll let me

Jon Skeet is @ @11757... mwahaha

Oh dear