@snailcar Hm. This version sounds a little redundant, but is it really that weird? Especially if you wrap it in a sentence beginning with X is a proposal..., where X is a type of proposal that's being defined/described. I think what's coordinated here are those two clauses, so I suppose it boils down to what you make of it or how you interpret it. In any case, it's a question that needs some clarification.

Needs clarifyin'.

@M.A.R.

(I'm just pinging, don't take it seriously.)

@userr2684291 Hello there, I was thinking something like that. If X is defined/described, then shouldn't it be "X is the proposal that is being discussed or was discussed"?

@AIQ If it is indeed a definition, then no. Consider the following: Coke is a beverage that....

@snailcar A Proposal for Implementation of a New Architecture is a proposal that is discussed in a meeting and a vote is taken on it.

I see nothing wrong with the above aside from the redundancy, which is why I see it as potentially being used in speech.

@snailcar Are you talking to me?

I'm saying both alternatives are possible, by the way, and I like the second one better (with on which a vote is taken or some such).

Or the first one. I don't know which is which anymore.

@userr2684291 "A Proposal for Implementation of a New Architecture is a proposal that is discussed in a meeting" if I am naming and identifying which proposal it is, then it is specific. Shouldn't we use "the"? And why does it feel like "discussed in a meeting" is not common usage? I might be wrong, I am just trying to understand ...

There's no context so we can't know, but the original choice of article is okay.

I feel this (A) "This is the proposal that is being discussed (or was discussed) in the meeting ..." makes more sense if I am saying this to a colleague than (B) "This is a proposal that is discussed in a meeting...".

clearly needs a context

I think my error is that I am thinking of the usage and applicability of the phrase in a conversation than its grammar - that is not what the question asked for - yikes. @snailcar @userr2684291

You can also say This is a proposal that's being discussed in the meeting... if you're mentioning it for the first time. I think, though, if there's always some proposal that's discussed at these meetings, and your colleague is aware of it, you can go with the even if you're mentioning it for the first time.

@M.A.R. Imagine me discussing articles like I know what the heck I'm talking about, lmao.

Yesterday in the library YouTube's algorithm led me to an awesome song, and now I can't find it anymore.

@userr2684291 browser history?

Library...

Hence destroyed frequently, periodically.

I meant I used a library computer.

I always do. I'd otherwise waste my time away there.

Mainly because I don't know my passwords to anything.

@userr2684291 Bless you

@userr2684291 I think you'd be pretty good at it

You've fooled me

@AIQ If it is a proposal discussed in the meeting, I would get the impression there is more than one proposal being discussed. If the whole purpose of the meeting is to discuss that proposal, I might use “the” - this is the proposal the meeting is about”

@ColleenV Yes, I agree. It all comes down to context and how we want to construct the sentence. I will edit my answer and the meta post soon

So, if someone says "Hi, I am Mady", is it rude to ask "And that is short for ... Madelyn or Madison?"